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Rangel: Hillary's Obama Attack Was a Dud
February 22, 2008 7:50 PM
It was clearly a line she had come armed with.
Talking about Sen. Barack Obama at last night's debate, Sen. Hillary Clinton said, "Lifting whole passages from someone else's speeches is not change you can believe in. It's change you can Xerox."
On NY1, one of Clinton's biggest supporters, Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., said of such a line: "You don’t raise it unless you have a winner, and that line that she had about Xerox actually was a lead balloon. It didn’t get off the ground. ... One of the professionals is the governor of Massachusetts feeding him lines that are great. Someone fed her a line that didn’t work. That’s all.”
You can see it HERE
What do you guys think?
- jpt
February 22, 2008 in Clinton, Hillary, Obama, Barack | Permalink | Share | User Comments (82)
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Hillary Clinton has lost control of herself and thusly her campaign. She cannot control her anger towards Barrack Obama at all. She is treating him like a child. She is not only outwitted, but she is outclassed by him. He is showing his manners, while she is rude. I noticed in prior debates that she nods her head while he is talking. She used to do that while she is making a speech also. Does she have a medical problem? I've noticed she's stopped that practice in the 19th debate. Someone has obviously told her it looks strange. I wonder what the medical world thinks of her. She is quite strange. She is unpredictable and contradictory in her speech and actions.
She needs to just quit. People are just plain bored and tired of her. Obama acts like he's just placating her by participating in these debates, because he feels sorry for her. There have never been this many debates. No wonder she has no money left. She's nuts.
Posted by: MominCT | Feb 25, 2008 11:09:05 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! "Xerox"???
Why didn't she just say "mimeograph" and have it over with!
Oh man. Too funny!
I hope the octogenarian who scripted that line for her was let go back into retirement. Or maybe he can get a job on McCain's campaign...
Posted by: SG | Feb 25, 2008 3:42:54 AM
I had to check with an old timer in order to find out what she meant. I had no idea what a Xerox was. I discovered it is what old people called a copy. She should get up to date. We younger people don't easily recognize these passe expressions.
Posted by: Randle Bate | Feb 24, 2008 11:01:49 PM
We have all heard the arguments about experience. With a quagmire in Iraq, who knows what’s going on with Afghanistan, a struggling economy, led paint in toys from China and the recent attacks on The U.S. embassy, this is not time for amateurs. This is what eight years of incompetence has brought us and now is the time for serious professionals with proven solutions and plans that can get our country back. While Obama may be a fantastic candidate as Vice President or as president even eight years from now, the problems with our country are not tolerant of another incompetent president for another four years. If we want change in this country we need to look forward to finding a president that can bring experience, knowledge and compassion to the united states. Obama is more of the same.
Eight years ago George W. Bush was elected president not because he was the better fit for president. He wasn’t elected because he could have done a better job than Al Gore. It was a popularity contest. Americans viewed him as the guy that they could have a beer with. I see Barack Obama playing the same card. Stadiums full of people chanting his slogans, hailing him as if he were a golden calf. But when the honeymoon is over is his experience going to produce results or just more of the same? I feel that we need to prove to the American people that we are about more than just popularity. We need to show them that as democrats we are not only about social improvements for Americans, but we want to provide them with a government that the republican party cannot, which is efficient, candid, and most importantly competent.
Posted by: kelly | Feb 24, 2008 1:23:46 PM
We have all heard the arguments about experience. With a quagmire in Iraq, who knows what’s going on with Afghanistan, a struggling economy, led paint in toys from China and the recent attacks on The U.S. embassy, this is not time for amateurs. This is what eight years of incompetence has brought us and now is the time for serious professionals with proven solutions and plans that can get our country back. While Obama may be a fantastic candidate as Vice President or as president even eight years from now, the problems with our country are not tolerant of another incompetent president for another four years. If we want change in this country we need to look forward to finding a president that can bring experience, knowledge and compassion to the united states. Obama is more of the same.
Eight years ago George W. Bush was elected president not because he was the better fit for president. He wasn’t elected because he could have done a better job than Al Gore. It was a popularity contest. Americans viewed him as the guy that they could have a beer with. I see Barack Obama playing the same card. Stadiums full of people chanting his slogans, hailing him as if he were a golden calf. But when the honeymoon is over is his experience going to produce results or just more of the same? I feel that we need to prove to the American people that we are about more than just popularity. We need to show them that as democrats we are not only about social improvements for Americans, but we want to provide them with a government that the republican party cannot, which is efficient, candid, and most importantly competent.
Posted by: kelly | Feb 24, 2008 1:18:08 PM
My problem with the Clintons is that they believe that America is an autocracy and not a democratic Republic. Clinton says she has all the answers. Obama says he will empower the people. Obama wants to govern; the Clintons want to rule.
Posted by: joes | Feb 24, 2008 10:36:55 AM
NONE of Hillary's attacks have any "substance." This is part of what makes her so annoying. She's the ultimate HENPECKER. And it is NOT acceptable for a President, or any position of leadership.
Posted by: EthicsIntegrityAmerica | Feb 24, 2008 9:09:07 AM
We shall see who the real dud is when you Obama supporters get what you want.
He has risen so high eventually the hot air balloon he rides in will POP and comng crashing down. Just HOPE it is before it hurts the rest of America and it's citizens as well.
Posted by: Gina | Feb 24, 2008 8:47:33 AM
HRC to rescue our economy? Come on...Her campaign is broke and we are in this mess because she voted for a war that has cost us so dearly when we could have wisely spent that money on our own domestic issues.
Posted by: clark | Feb 24, 2008 5:06:17 AM
i see the clinton war room surrogates are busy posting all over the web--but theyre arguments remind me the disdain she has for the american people for she thinks all americans are as ignorant and blind as those who support her and her pitifull husband
Posted by: cisconchipper | Feb 24, 2008 4:01:30 AM
I think if a person want to be the leader of a country. This person must be trust worthy. Obama has shown too much of inconsistency. He wear ? flag pin when he goes to Senate and throw it aside when is not. His wife say she felt love this country for the first time. Only because your husband want to be the president. I am a naturalized US citizen. I live here and love this country because it provides us a place we can stay comfortably. Even thought I have oppurtunity to vote on my home country, I didn't do it, because it belongs to the people who lives there not me. I live here, it's my country. I would worry to have a guy who is so inconsistent to lead this country. A president represent this country, should not behave like teen ager. "I can do what I want". Old wisdom always say, "watch what his action instead just listen what he said". I hope people look from more angles to Mr. Obama. Most of the time, people who get blamed are those who do the works. People who don't get blamed doesn't mean he can do the job. Most of the time they don't. You don't work, you don't make mistakes.
Ms. Clinton has shown her wisdom over the years. She is centainly a very capable woman and calm. The country really needs such a person that will make smooth transition especially we are in big trouble economically. Take the war fund to do something else will not solve our problem because we are in debt. We really need to create jobs, conserve the resource to get back to at least where we were before 911. Mr. Obama's tactic looks so familiar as what had happened in Taiwan. The results is economy is bottom out and a broken country. Thanks for your patience and forgive my poor english.
God bless USA
Vincent Chou
Posted by: Vincent | Feb 23, 2008 10:57:50 PM
I marvel at the Hillary supporters who rant and rave about the "fake" that Senator Obama is.
Give me a break!! Hillary is about as fake as they come, manipulating "the truth" to suit her convenience.
How idiotic was it to sit in a debate, trash your opponent for "empty words" and then go on to give a plagiarized closing statement that contained a beginning from Edwards concession and an end from a Bill stump speech of 1992.
Utterly unbelievable!! Hillary's Xerox machine is working quite well!!
Posted by: Marty | Feb 23, 2008 10:02:55 PM
2rocker-The question was more about what makes you qualified to handle a crisis. His answer was I was raised by a single mom and abandoned by my father. So most of the general public was raised by a single parent. But that does not make a person more qualified to handle a crisis, such as nuclear threats or making decisive decisions in such serious circumstances.
Talking about being born with a silver spoon, Obama had an oil manager step dad, lived in different countries, his Grandmother sent him to the most prestigious Hawaian private schools. So don't tell me he had it hard. My parent's had it harder, my mother was abandoned by her mother when she was young just like Obama was by his father and that was almost 20years before he was born. I did not grow up with a silver spoon and have worked since the day I was legally able to work.
Again, How does being brought up by a single mother and his grandparents make him the man we would want facing down a nuclear attack, or any other serious threat to america that qualifies as a crisis. He should have answered with a crisis that not everyone has had to deal with it thier lives.
For example firefighters face crisis everyday when running into a burning building to save another life. If he had ever done something like that he could have used that as an example. It goes to show he has not much thrown at him in his life, besides his upbringing which was not bad no matter how he paints it. A lot of people have had it worse. He has never had much adversity in his life, no matter what he says, and it goes to question of is he ready to face such threats and adversity that america faces over the years.
Posted by: Dee | Feb 23, 2008 9:29:06 PM
kflash: obama's mantra is to get "the American people involved in working to make this country great again". Duuuh, I thought that is why we elected a President.....
Besides, tell that to the hard-working men and women who are working 2, 3, and 4 jobs and ALSO taking care of their children......do you think that they have the TIME or ENERGY to "get involved in making America great again"??? Hell, NO. That is what is so disgusting about obama suggesting that the American people "get involved" and help him. PLEASE. Many, many Americans are homeless, struggling to pay their bills and put gas in their cars----Hillary was right: this is a delusion that obama has about what Americans are REALLY doing: working their arses off from paycheck to paycheck. They don't want to get involved with government. They just want to survive in this economy, stupid.....
Posted by: Is it Jan. 9, 2009 YET???? | Feb 23, 2008 8:46:12 PM
obama's rhetoric and borrowing it is a testament to his "transparency"-----everybody is starting to see what a fake he is-----the guy can't even come up with good ideas of his own, just like he can't think for himself during a debate with Hillary clinton. He needs a TELEPROMPTER to think. Hillary has debated circles around him with her command of the issues and what she plans to do about them. obama just sits there, writng things down on his little pad of paper. All that ever comes out of his mouth is, "let's be clear about this....". "Now I want to be clear about this....", along with a lot of incoherent jarble thrown together, in a monotone that puts a person to sleep. He stutters and hesitates, and is slow in getting his words out. He is not a credible debater or politician. Yeah, change we can believe in-----elect Hillary, not obama. When the Republicans echo the same criticism of obama that the Democrats are, there's something to it.......LISTEN, people......
Posted by: Is it Jan. 9, 2009 YET???? | Feb 23, 2008 8:40:06 PM
Guys, what do you think the Cliton's has in arsenal to revive the dieing glory of the strips and stars nation? I'm not an american but I would like to encourage u guys to think deeply and choose an energetic guy tht ready to deliver the goverment to the right owner'the americans' not to the powers that be and rule in the washington.Cliton's the issue at ground is not about been a white house wife or a senator for ages,its about who can offer changes and save the yankees. Give the young man a change or allow China,India,Russia to overide you guys in few years to come.
Posted by: kfash | Feb 23, 2008 8:31:57 PM
Dee and Disgusted: When is being raised by a single mother not a legitimate part of someone's story? Are you trying to say growing up from single-parent home is not difficult? I think many of the Clinton-backers are actually raised up with a silver-spoon so they actually resent somebody who grew up with hardship and is actually a better person than they, and their idol: Hillary, are.
Posted by: 2rocker | Feb 23, 2008 7:19:07 PM
OBAMA handed out the most money to super delegates than any other candidate.
Posted by: Disgusted | Feb 23, 2008 5:56:07 PM
I don't get what anyone sees in Obama. A future president needs accountability-Obama has none. At least all the other candidates have had some kind of accountability.
His last answer of the debate was a horrid response, that he is able to handle a crisis because he was raised by a single mother, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or because HE feels he is qualified to be president, that is why he is running and that was his answer..............America needs to wake up and FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Dee | Feb 23, 2008 5:54:13 PM
Ted Strickland, Governor of Ohio, received approximately $700,000 from fund-raisers sponsored by the Clintons in 2007. Just another politician bought by the Clintons.
Posted by: joes | Feb 23, 2008 5:48:51 PM
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