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While Visions of Exit Polls Danced in Their Heads

February 13, 2008 7:10 AM

Some interesting numbers to contemplate from the Commonwealth (NOT state) of Virginia and Maryland.

Blacks in Virginia accounted for just 30% of Democratic voters.

Obama won Virginia white Democrats overall 52-47.

Clinton only won Democratic white women in Virginia by 6 points.

Obama won white men in both Maryland and Virginia -- though it was much closer in Maryland.

Almost half -- 49% -- of Virginia Republicans described McCain as not conservative enough.

In Maryland and Virginia approximately 6 in 10 "conservatives" felt that way.

For the second time, Obama won Hispanic voters somewhere…in Virginia's small Latino population. (Quiz question - what's the only other state?)*

Evangelicals in Virginia -- 46% of GOP voters. Huckabee won them 2-to-1.

Non-evangelicals in Virginia -- 54% of GOP voters. McCain won them 63-25%.

McCain won conservatives in Maryland for the third time this primary season. (Quiz question -- what are the other two?)**

What say you?***

- jpt

*Connecticut
** New York and New Jersey
***Numbers come from an analysis by ABC News' Gary Langer, Rich Morin, Peyton Craighill, Pat Moynihan and Scott Clement.

NOTE: Due to a typo in a polling memo I was working off from, I had originally repeated that Obama won white women in Maryland. He did NOT. He lost them to Clinton by 18 points.

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answer to the quiz question:

Illinois.

Posted by: washingtonian | Feb 13, 2008 9:12:32 PM

Actually he doesn’t, have a better chance of winning the White House. Here is the reason why. It will be between a white male, that most republicans don’t think is conservative enough, which means that there will be many of the Clinton supporters who flip because they don’t want to support Obama. Not to mention all the people who are not ready for a African American to sit in the oval office. The republicans vote republican in droves…. McCain and the republicans, win again.

For all “ABC” Democrats (Anyone But Clinton); that one really makes me laugh. Due to the fact Obama, is using Bill Clinton’s Campaign Manager and Speechwriter. So exactly, how are the “ABC”er escaping? Seems to me that you running to them, just a different shade.

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 13, 2008 1:56:13 PM

It is clear. Whether it's a primary or a caucus, if given enough time he chews into her base. Even those who prefer Clinton are beginning to vote Obama realising that he stands a better chance of winning the White House precisely because of the unequal distribution of crossover voters. There are virtually no committed Hillary Republicans, apart from the tactical ones hoping she gets it because it means a better chance at a Republican presidency. And the anti-Obamas who claim they'll vote McCain aren't sufficient in numbers compared to the surprisingly huge group of "ABC" Democrats (Anyone But Clinton).

Posted by: SE Croft | Feb 13, 2008 12:09:10 PM

Why is this a surprise?

What amazes me is how the headlines are now:
“Democratics’ have a Frontrunner”.

When Obama, is only 27 delegates, ahead, but when Clinton, was ahead by over 100 or more delegates, ahead the reports were:
“It’s close. The Superdelegates, will be the decision makers”.

The media has been singing his praises the entire time. Do most people really think for themselves or listen to the rhetoric of others? As someone once stated to me, “just tell me what to do” and the movie “Distinguished Gentlemen”, “people go with the name the know…”. Especially, after hearing it over and over again in the media.

Let’s break it down to very simply terms:
Oprah is for Obama.
Who watches Oprah hmm, could it be white women? Look in the audience. Surprise? No!
Who better to go against a White, Male Republican another Male. Surprise, no!
Let’s not forget, that February, is “Black History Month”. Surprise? No.

History foretold this one:
Who got the vote first?
Oh yea, it was the black, male.
What was the reasoning for this?
Oh yea, because women weren’t consider to be intelligent enough to make the distinction between the most qualified candidates, the issues of the times, and what was at stake. According the ruling males: “Women would vote based on looks and feelings.”
Women sure haven’t let the men down on that one.
Then the men figured out “well, we could just tell the women for whom they should vote” and here we are today.
Anything changed? No, not really. Some women are still allowing others to tell them how to vote.

So, why is it that this is a surprise?
Some of us just thought that others would have learned from the past.
Apparently not.

Lets not forget, that most people don’t like being on a losing team.

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 13, 2008 9:26:52 AM

A potential firestorm could be brewing. Whether it becomes a wildfire, which could conceivably then spread into Texas OR is nipped in the bud quickly, is difficult to say at this point. And I'm not talking about Sen. Obama (although one could make that case!). I am talking about the replacing of Sen. Hillary Clinton's Hispanic campaign manager for an African-American campaign manager. A prominent California superdelegate, Steven Ybarra, in response to the removal, has written, "Apparently, loyalty is not a two-way street. Latino superdelegates like myself...will have cause to pause."

It is important to note that Patti Solis Doyle (the former campaign manager) is actually staying on the Clinton Campaign as an adviser. And she says that Steven Ybarra was writing from "false information." Time will tell whether the Clinton Campaign is able to quickly extinguish the flame before it has a chance to spread.

Posted by: James Danley | Feb 13, 2008 9:22:57 AM

Here is a fine example of Obama economic Policy. An actual quote form him.


In Chicago, sometimes when I talk to the black chambers of commerce, I say, ‘You know what would be a good economic development plan for our community would be if we make sure folks weren’t throwing their garbage out of their cars,’ ” Obama told a group of black state legislators in a speech in South Carolina last month.

Posted by: anonymous | Feb 13, 2008 9:15:01 AM

Obama has built in advantages? And what would those be?

I would rather have a president that is accepted by, and appealing to, most of the states across the country and not just 10 or 12 states, and not just the larger ones. She needs to remember she would not just be president of Texas and Ohio.
African Americans aside, give the reasons for Obamas wins in Iowa, Idaho, Nebraska, Kansas, etc., etc.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | Feb 13, 2008 8:55:31 AM

I bet there's a LOT of analysis this morning at the headquarters of the candidates who didn't do well (and they know who they are) in the Potomac primaries. As I've written before, I'm glad to see that inevitability, no matter which political party you're discussing, isn't what it used to be!

Posted by: chuck | Feb 13, 2008 8:29:34 AM

What is happening is the AA are coming out in droves in every county to vote for their guy and rightly so they want him in the white house, and they know they will have to vote this time in order for him to get there. I am 100% sure if we did not have a black candidate running half of them would of stayed home and not care who gets on the ticket. When you have counties with 62.% AA where Obama gets 80,000 votes as against Hillary 20,000 its shows they are pushing for this to happen, call it racial voting or whatever you want, but if this keeps up he may very well win this race in the end.

Posted by: SJ | Feb 13, 2008 8:26:52 AM

30% is more than it will be anywhere else than Mississippi. The March 4th primaries have three times the delegates as last nights. Obama's built in advantages are about to end.

Posted by: s.b. | Feb 13, 2008 8:12:33 AM

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