A "Trumped Up" Issue?

this is to "SOMEONE" one of the first commenters:

axelrod didnt write that speech. obama wrote it, like he does most of his speeches. just clarifying.

Agbi I did listen to his speach,and the words as always were stirring but then I remenber that this man could have done as MLK and started the change in his very own church but chose not to,I am equally awear that there are bad elements in all the races who do not work or look for a free ride.As there are racists,or bigots.It is up to every American to treat all people as they wise to be treated are we there yet no sadly we are not but I dont think he is the man that will get us there either

The question posited by Jake Tapper in this thread is have you heard objectionable statements expressed from the pulpit in your church/temple/synogogue and if so, what have you done in response?

I preface my answer by stating that I am Roman Catholic. I attend a Franciscan church. St Francis was the patron saint of animals, a man of Italian nobility who gave up his riches and took a vow of poverty. I expalin this because Franciscans are quite apolitical. I attended parochial school for 15 years. During my tenure in school and in church, I never heard a word from a priest or nun classifying any race or ethnic group as evil, corrupt, inferior, or anything that could be perceived as negative.

The usual procedure at Mass is that there are readings from the bible, followed by a sermon which may or may not relate to the readings. The topics of sermons are usually faith, hope, charity, peace.

I have never heard a political pitch for any candidate from the pulpit. I was quite young when JFK was running so simply cannot recall.

Of course, as an RC, I know my church's position on abortion. That is a given. To be honest with you, I cannot recall a sermon addressing it.

I think we should make Axlerod the President. Afterall he writes great speeches.

Who cares about solving the problems. Just speeches will run the country.

Indeed Obama's speech was good today. But what does that prove? It only proves that Obama can memorize and deliver a speech written by Axlerod and nothing else.

Oboma would have proved a lot of things if he had walked out of that church 19 years and 364 days ago. Or atleast after the 9/11 speech of Wright.

Vanessa, I also found Sen. Obama's speech very moving and emotional. But all that tells me is that he is an excellent speaker who is very charismatic and has the gift to inspire when he speaks. Those who are listening do feel that hope could be on the horizon. NOW, don't get me wrong, I am not in anyway making a specific comparison, other than to say, remember that there was another attractive young man who was an excellent speaker, very charismatic, and also had the gift to inspire when he spoke. And those who listened to him felt that hope was on the horizon...in Germany, back in 1933.

Don't let charisma and the gift to inspire overshadow the message. Sen. Obama is no less a Socialist or Marxist than Sen. Clinton. He wants to rob the rich in order to pay for his programs (i.e., womb-to-tomb universal health care). He will decimate small businesses with his planned tax hikes. And he wants to hand al Qaeda a miliary victory in Iraq. That is his message, regardless of how he presents his message. If that is what you want, then you should vote for Sen. Obama.

But I believe in personal responsibility, in self-determination, in capitalism and the free market, and that the federal government's responsibilities are to insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, and promote (not provide) the general welfare." I also believe our government is of the people, by the people and for the people, NOT of the government, by the government for the people.

How can anyone have Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness if the federal government tells us what we must or cannot eat and drink or products we must or cannot purchase in the name of preventative health care? THAT is where we will be headed should either Sen. Obama or Sen. Clinton become president.

Marc,
go check the facts-do not just take the boston globes work-you go and check and read the fact for yourself. If what I have written is a lie about Hillary'
work for children and abused women is wrong-then-Marian Wright-Edleman is a lie. And if you tell me what issues we are dealing with in this election and I will tell you how hillary is going to help you too.
Pa, NC, Indiana, WVA-it is up to you to save the party now-go and closely read and study the issues-and vote Hillary

Look at the tracking polls. Clinton is leading or tied with McCain. Obama is losing to McCain and CLINTON IS LEADING OBAMA (through 3/15)

GOD BLESS AMERICA

Obama failed to take action in the 20 years he sat in the pews. But now he's asking us to join him and take action to unify the country. His hypocracy is astounding. This speech was all about Obama, Obama, Obama. He is the slickest politician yet.

Vanessa,

Perhaps she is crying because McCain now leads Obama by 6%.

This is why I am non-religious.

jgaw: hillary did not get health care for anyone - children or otherwise. for months the press has ignored her claims of "35 Years of Experience" and her cherrypicking positive aspects of the Clinton years. Now they are finally asking questions - and finding enromous gaps between what hillary says and what hillary actually did. schips (the children's health care plan) was not conceived, written, or ushered through congress by hillary clinton. the boston globe covered the issue this week. so every week, in every state, when hillary talks about the number of children she has brought health care to - it is a flat-out lie.

It was a nice speach but we have now learned that Obamas speaches are just words,he spent 20 years in a church with out changing it or the hate that resides in that church but it was a nice speach.I still do not want him as my next president

"This time we want to talk about the men and women of every color and creed who serve together, and fight together, and bleed together under the same proud flag"

PROUD FLAG? DOES OBAMA MEAN THE ONE HE REFUSES TO WEAR OR HONOR DURING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM?????

THAT FLAG?

It was a nice speach but we have now learned that Obamas speaches are just words,he spent 20 years in a church with out changing it or the hate that resides in that church but it was a nice speach.I still do not want him as my next president

Obama's problem with this isn't about race. It's about 'God D America'. This will cost him the general election. All the rest he can overcome. Democrats need to think deeply about this.

vanessa,
Go back and check the real facts-
and check your state laws-I'll bet you know some child who has health care coverage-because of the work Hillary did a long time ago to get it for them.
I wonder if you know any woman who has been-abused-and now has a place to go for help and assistance-because of work hillary did to get it for them. Also did you know Michelle obama was on the board of walmart-after hillary.
please voters-yet to vote stay on the issues. stop the crazy talk about the clintons-which will not help any of us.
voters in pa, nc, wva,indiana, listen to the issues before us-stay with the issues.

DCVoter...

this is what you all do ...you say "

Obama played the race card again with this speech"

Your comments almost don't need me to say anything...so he played the race card in the middle of a national firestorm about race...and he may be partly reponsible.

A leader gets up quickly and (predominantly writes their own speech(like Lincoln) using great ideas from many voices (like JFK))... and quells the public fervor and fear.

That is what he did today.

That's when you speak up about the issue. Not an issue to incite...because if he had addressed this earlier...this same speech how would have Americans taken it... and that would have been playing the race card.

He helped quell the fervor and fear instead of inciting it. Can you say that about any other candidate in this race. No you can't.

That is what a leader does...not a queen who has her followers loyal to the country of Clinton...yet not America.

In the country of Clinton you play whatever card will win...and respond to any statement that might keep your queen from leading the hive.

get a copy of his speech and read it.
"We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro, in the aftermath of her recent statements, as harboring some deep-seated racial bias."

Not only is he comparing Ferraro to Wright. But wait, who is dismiisngher as a racist? "just as some"? the some being himself and his supporters!

FURTHERMORE HE IS ALL OVER THE PLACE MMAKING NO SENSE. THROWING THE RACE DECK
AROUND TO SAVE HIS CAMPAIGN
"Segregated schools were, and are, inferior schools; we still haven’t fixed them, fifty years after Brown v. Board of Education, and the inferior education they provided, then and now, helps explain the pervasive achievement gap between today’s black and white students."

"The profound mistake of Reverend Wright’s sermons is not that he spoke about racism in our society. It’s that he spoke as if our society was static; as if no progress has been made; as if this country"

“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”

“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”

“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”

“It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge.”

“The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.”

- Adolf Hitler

Like Gustav Niebuhr of Syracuse University, I ask, “… hold a political figure somehow "responsible" for what his or her minister/priest/rabbi/imam says. Do we really want to go there?”