And Only Count the Votes of Left-Handed People! And Only Count People Who Lettered in a Sport in High School! And…

Please digress a moment. I would like veryone to look at a vote that was taken on the floor of the Senate oct. 31st, 2007 H.R.00401. (3963) I believe it was. Every one is talking about this caucus and that primary. Let's talk about the actual track record of these candidates and decide on them. This particular vote involved the expansion of healthcare for underpriveledged children. You guys know this one, this is the one that G. Bush vetoed and caused all kinds of outrage. How do you think HRC voted? You guessed it, she voted YEA. How do you think Obama voted? Well he didn't vote. He was to busy campaigning on Saturday Night Live's. Atleast HRC stopped her campaign to do her job. It appears that a poor child from the ghetto doesnt care to much for poor kids.

Bill is really getting old, I think this campaign is a punishment for him. He just want to wrap it off by hook or crook!

What is wrong with you people? The fact that an underhanded little rat like Carville is even so rock hard for Hillary is enough to turn me off.

And listen you keep saying that you think Obama doesn't want the people's voice to be heard but he just doesn't want a bought-ought primary. Clinton first offered to provide funding, and I don't know where some of you are getting your information, but Carville didn't propose a plan for joint funding to the Obama campaign. He just kept insulting the Obama campaign and turning people against him. Calling them "afraid" and "cheeky." What a jerk!

And furthermore, him being such a huge supporter of Hillary makes the whole entire thing suspicious. We need a neutral party to conduct this business, not the campaigns.

Sorry, of course that's CANNOT dis-enfranchise FL and MI.

dennis in Michigan, Hillary is calling for a complete re-vote in your state with both hers and Obama's name on the ballot. The re-vote is to be completely paid for by Hillary supporters to the tune of $15 million. Of course, they don't know that the state will go her way, but they do think that in a race this close the Democratic party can dis-enfranchise both MI and FL by telling them their votes don't count. Obama has blocked this effort at every turn. Why?

James Carville offered the same deal with FL if Obama backers would pick up half the tab. Again Obama has blocked those efforts. Why? Because he knows Hillary wins primaries, big states, swing states, on and on. But I forget, Obama is going to unite all of us into one big happy family. Indeed, in his dreams.

Well, as long as FL and MI are not counted, everything is well in Obama dreamland, right? I have no doubt that he'll win ... in his dream.

I guess people who attend caucuses don't really count as people?? More important point: what IS their problem with caucuses?? They *should* do better, in fact, since caucus-goers are more typically party regulars. It isn't like the fact they would have to compete in caucuses was a surprise. I'd think good politicians, like Obama apparently is, could adapt to different formats. What's the problem: lack of on-the-ground organization? Isn't organizing part of leadership? Is it that the more people get to know both candidates the more they like Obama? The FACT that they are doing badly so consistently in caucuses isn't just some accident of birth or anything.

Ex-President Clinton never ceases to amaze me as to how non-presidential he can act. Imagine to turn your nose up at every state that decides that caucuses are better for them. This is still a constitutional republic? right? The DNC approved their plans and the candidates signed on to them. Now to complain because the HRC campaign used poor judgement and ran a general election instead of running in a nomination process. They only have themselves to blame.

Smart strategy. Bill wants this to be OVER, so he's insulting the caucus states to drive their superdelegates to Obama

He obviously does NOT want to be the First Laddie, and surely he doesn't even want their tax returns released, ESPECIALLY if Hillary's not going to be the nominee.

Wisconsin was a caucus, MD and VA....they were caucus' too. Missouri...another caucus. Wow, Obama can only win the caucus. He should drop out of the race since he's behind in all numbers....
Just imagine, if the shoe was on the other foot...folks would be ready to lynch him by now if he didn't drop out to let queen hellary prepare for McCain. Shame on you Barack Obama!

Bill Clinton is right to play up Hillary's success in primary states. The general election is not a caucus, and it cannot be won with a handful of dedicated diciples dominating caucus sites. It is pretty clear that Obama has gamed the system to get his lead in delegates. His lead in delegates gained from caucuses says nothing about his ability to win in November. Hillary's ability to win the big battleground states shows much more strength going into the fall campaign.

Way More Caucuses

Why you still beating this dead horse?

In TX, Obama won caucus by 10%, but was defeated in popular vote by 4%.

In WA, Obama won caucus by a stunning 37%, but only won popular vote by 5%.

What does the number tell us? If we transfer all the caucuses to primaries based on TX and WA votes, then Obama was defeated by Clinton in popular vote with a rather large margin.

Conclusion? Obama has no chance winning general election unless his campaign change general election to caucus. Yes, you can????

Suggestion? Senator Obama, please quit right now before you hurt the democratic party too much.

jtp say "Other ideas?"

If it has not been suggested yet...

We should count only the states that begin with the word "New".

These states are vibrant and cutting edge. The other states represent Old America, you know, the Past. And we all favor "New" America far more.

So whoever won New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, should be the winner. Newfoundland may count too, but it is Canadian so I'm not sure what to do here (have to check with Wolfson first).

Why aren't we discussing things that mean something to this country,like jobs, economy, the war...?

The Rezko trial will resume on Monday. What else will come out. Its a pity that so many Obama supporters are so invested in their own power trip that they overlook Obama's problems that will be exploited in full during the General Election. We've heard all the Clinton stuff for so long that we've become immune to it.

Priceless.

If you look closely at the caucus numbers from Maine and Washington (state), you'll see that less than 1% of the registered voters caucused. How is this representational of the registered voters in those states? Why weren't the other 99% of voters caucusing? Because they were WORKING. Can you imagine telling your boss (or in Maine's case, the captain of the fishing boat) that you need the day off to spend caucusing for your candidate? What building in the world is large enough to hold tens of thousands of people at one time so they can caucus for their candidate. That's why primaries are a more direct representation of voters' choice. Of course, it would help if we counted ALL the votes that were cast - like those in Florida, where we had a record turnout (40% turnout in my county alone.)

Don't know about the math -- its certainly contrary to conventional wisdom -- but a big victory in PA will change the momentum. Question is, will it change it enough, esp if Obama wins big in North Carolina?

Hmmm....