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Bill Clinton: U.S. Is 'Groaning and Moaning and Screaming for Change'

March 02, 2008 7:04 PM

We've been following the former president today as he's worked his heart out for his wife here in Texas.

He visited three churches, then held a rally in a Latino neighborhood in Houston, followed by a rally at Texas A&M in College Station.

Three more events to go -- eight total. That's more events than Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., had scheduled. Not just each -- combined.

At the African-American churches this morning, Clinton was careful not to criticize Obama. He asked congregants to think and pray on his arguments for his wife, and he asked for them to pray for both her and Obama.

He assured voters at Silverlake Church that he'd be representing for Hillary, even if she weren't his wife, lest they think, he said, "Aw, that rascal, he's gotta say that, whaddaya expect?"

At Christian Hope Baptist Church, Pastor Herbert Stroman introduced him, saying, "we are truly honored today to have our first black president." Clinton covered his face with his hand.

"I want you to vote even if you don't vote for her," he told parishioners, "because I don't want you to wake up in November not liking the choice."

At the other two events we attended, which were more traditional political rallies outside any houses of worship, he was far more critical of Obama.

To a room of Aggies, he asked, per ABC News' Sarah Amos, "are we going to nominate somebody who says it's okay if 15 million people aren't insured as long as, in theory, they can afford it? Now, it's not just a matter of whether your heart bleeds.

"And he says, 'Well, we don't want to make people buy insurance.' But he makes you buy insurance if you've got kids. But if you don't have kids, you don't have to buy it. Here's the issue: you can't get control of costs if you don't cover everybody."

He also said, "The country is groaning and moaning and screaming for change to turn this country around and get it working again."

We shall be looking at the former president, his and his wife's roots in Texas, and this tight race on tomorrow night's "Nightline."

On "GMA" tomorrow, the latest on the race and ABC News' Terry Moran sits down with Obama. And on "World News," we look at this screwy Texas primary/caucus hybrid and why the winner of the popular vote might lose the delegates.

- jpt

March 2, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (38)

User Comments

It will be very hard to get over it if Obama will go down, and loose the nomination.All The garlic nose Italians , the typical whites the jews dont want him in the White House.

Posted by: Francis | Mar 28, 2008 1:59:45 AM

Every body, The Obamas ,The Obama supporters,etc already know The Obamas are toast.

Posted by: Jack | Mar 26, 2008 8:02:44 PM

"Groaning and moaning.."???

Bill Clinton at his finest.

Posted by: RobK | Mar 4, 2008 10:32:33 AM

Change for the sake of change is not real change.

Posted by: kenn | Mar 4, 2008 1:21:09 AM

Hey Jake, don't call my state screwy. Is it a pain? Yes. However, it's simple. You vote and then you return to caucus later. Like I said simple. Of course, if you don't really believe in your person, then maybe you won't caucus. Or if you targeted a certain group at the expense of others, then no you won't benefit by getting the most delegates, that's not screwy b/c the person should have had a better strategy......

Posted by: Angela | Mar 3, 2008 5:27:22 PM

@Ken,

1. Mrs. Clinton has been missing important meetings while 'on the trail,' as well. (Link to article provided below text.)

"It's true that Obama has convened no meetings of the subcommittee, but his camp counters that he became chair of the subcommittee early last year, just as he was starting his presidential campaign. Clinton is technically correct that Obama could have used the subcommittee to conduct oversight of actions and policies related to Afghanistan. But the full foreign relations committee, under the guidance of Senator Joe Biden, has held several hearings on Afghanistan that covered NATO's role there. It's not as if the foreign relations committee did nothing on Afghanistan because Obama did not take on the mission. Also, as happens with many committees, the chair of the full committee reserves the right to handle the big issues him- or herself, and Afghanistan counts as a big issue.

Clinton ought to be careful about hurling stones in this area. As she always tells campaign crowds, she is a member of the Senate armed services committee. In February the committee held two hearings on Afghanistan. On February 8, it focused on appropriations for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates was a witness. Eight days later, the committee zeroed in on U.S. strategy in Afghanistan, holding a two-part hearing examining recent reports on Afghanistan. Key witnesses included senior officials from the State Department and the Pentagon responsible for the administration's Afghanistan policy.

Clinton attended neither of these hearings. She was on the campaign trail."


2. "Whether you are a white, middle-aged woman is not verifiable and definitely not the issue at hand."

Being a white woman and supporting Mr. Obama is indeed worth mentioning. Mr. Obama is where he is in the race due to the number of white voters who are trying to supporting him - in addition to African-American voters.

"As for the United States being governed by white males for over two hundred years: This country was created, authored, and governed (for the most part) during that same time by the landed, white, gentry."

The US was 'landed' by immigrants from another country - who worked hard to even survive. The 'gentry' that you reference - was responsible for slavery.

Such are the historical facts.

" ... but not one that should govern support for a specific political candidate. But, again, such is your choice, and mine."

My support for Mr. Obama is based on his obvious intelligence and talents, as I stated. His heritage - only makes him stronger.

"You mention judgment in your post. I respectfully suggest that you consider the judgment of a man who would place the importance of his political campaign over his duties as chairman of a Senate oversight subcommittee on Afghanistan while deriding his opponents for their stances on Afghanistan."

Both candidates appear to be AWOL from meetings to a certain degree. If Mr. Obama's judgment is questionable - so is Mrs. Clinton's.

"We have people serving and giving their lives in Afghanistan. I just can't see where a political campaign should take preference."

Maybe you should raise that issue - with both of the candidates?

"Coupled with the Rezko affair ..."

It seems as if you are very interested in mentioning this 'affair.'

" ... we have witnessed quite a lack of judgment on Senator Obama's part (of which the Senator agrees). All the candidates have been subject to questionable judgment at one time or another."

Another reason to vote for him. A Senator who actually admits when his judgment is poor.

"However, the judgment of Senator Obama is just now being subjected to the same scrutiny as that of the other candidates."

It is our job as voters to scrutinize the candidates and their policies. I suspect that Mr. Obama will continue to handle issues as he has - to date - with decency, respect, intelligence, and maturity.

"We shall see what we shall see..."

So we shall.


Posted by: redcat | Mar 3, 2008 4:09:21 PM

i continue to be amazed by the stories of how experience doesn’t matter. it seems that finally, most would concede that clinton's experience in the white house, as essentially what one might compare to that of an apprentice, is plausible, just not worth the years it took to get. well experience doesn’t matter then. what next? grades don’t count? at least were getting a head start on how to refine the “no child left behind” agenda.

Posted by: american2 | Mar 3, 2008 2:50:47 PM

On the most important asset one own is his or her house. On Mr. Obama’s house purchase he made the WRONG judgment by knowingly doing business with indicted Mr. Rezko.

Posted by: James | Mar 3, 2008 2:38:13 PM

Well, Redcat, you do a very good job of making my point. I appreciate that.

The statistics of black American primary and caucus participants that support Obama (with caucuses it didn't even take an actual vote for support)are obviously biased towards race first. Interpret the figures as you will. The numbers do not lie.

The race factor was overwhelmingly evident in places like South Carolina where black voters initially indicated support for Clinton and then opted for Obama by a huge margin. Regardless of spin, race was indeed the primary and key factor.

Whether you are a white, middle-aged woman is not verifiable and definitely not the issue at hand. However, we can ascertain that you support Senator Obama, which is your right. If you are white, you are among a group that (by percentage) does not support Obama to the same degree that black voters do.

As for the United States being governed by white males for over two hundred years: This country was created, authored, and governed (for the most part) during that same time by the landed, white, gentry. Such is a historical fact, but not one that should govern support for a specific political candidate. But, again, such is your choice, and mine.

You mention judgment in your post. I respectfully suggest that you consider the judgment of a man who would place the importance of his political campaign over his duties as chairman of a Senate oversight subcommittee on Afghanistan while deriding his opponents for their stances on Afghanistan. We have people serving and giving their lives in Afghanistan. I just can't see where a political campaign should take preference.

Coupled with the Rezko affair (for which the trial begins today), we have witnessed quite a lack of judgment on Senator Obama's part (of which the Senator agrees).

All the candidates have been subject to questionable judgment at one time or another. However, the judgment of Senator Obama is just now being subjected to the same scrutiny as that of the other candidates.

We shall see what we shall see...


Posted by: Ken | Mar 3, 2008 12:45:04 PM

@Ken,

You brought up the fact that African-Americans are voting for Mr. Obama in large numbers. So are whites - both women and men - old and young alike. I believe that African-Americans, like all voters, are using/will use good judgment in their selection of a candidate.

I'm a white, middle-aged woman - and I am voting for Mr. Obama.

Race and gender are indeed factors in this race - even though I believe that people should vote for a candidate based on the candidate's ability to manage the nation's issues and not based on their skin color or gender. But, if African-Americans - or women - vote for one candidate or the other based on color or gender - that is their choice.

When it comes to African-American voters supporting Mr. Obama - first, because he is an intelligent and somehow already 'wise' individual - and secondly, because he is half-black - I am with them all the way.

I see both Mr. Obama's talents - and his heritage - and I think that Mr. Obama's heritage - and color - makes him what he is today.

222 years - of one nation - being goverened by people who are primarily male and white - flies in the face of this nation's basic and most treasured - creeds.

I am voting for Mr. Obama because I believe that he has the best chance for correcting what is wrong in our nation. BUT, I have no problem telling you that part of my motivation to support Mr. Obama stems from the fact that I would like to see Mr. and Mrs. Obama in the White House - even if it is - 222 years - too late.

No one is 'baiting' me. I am voting for Mr. Obama - because it is the right thing to do - based on his talents - which are only enhanced by his heritage and color. He has lived life - from all different perpectives - and it shows. Yes, I see his color - and I see it - as a very good thing.

This is still America - even if the old racists - don't want to admit it.

It is all about - judgment.

Posted by: redcat | Mar 3, 2008 11:25:44 AM

After watching major network news programs yesterday, I noticed "judgment" being coopted as a campaign buzz word by one campaign's supporters with increasing frequency.

Perhaps we shall see whether everyone has exercised good judgment with the outcome and aftermath of the Rezko trial that begins this morning.

Another item on yesterday's news programs that kept jumping out to me were the results of the polls of voters in both Ohio and Texas.

In every poll that considered the demographic of voter race, the black vote was going to Senator Obama by 85 to 90% or more.

In addition, a large majority of the super delegates defecting from Clinton to the Obama campaign were surprisingly enough...black.

However, when considering other demographics with regards to the candidates, racial bias was not evident.

Now, this is not speculation. Go to the polls done by the major networks (including ABC) and check it out for yourself.

Back to judgment: As the judgment is considered in the Rezko trials tomorrow, the race card will undoubtedly again be thrown with great haste.

Taking into consideration the obvious racial bias voters and supporters as indicated in the polls, we should ask "Was there any real racism, or is the card simply being played?"

Will the electorate continue to allow the race baiting evident in some campaigns and the racial bias and attacks of some voters to influence their choice of presidential candidate, or not?

Perhaps the silent majority will finally stand up and say "enough is enough," thus exercising a virtue truly lacking in present campaigns, good judgment.


Posted by: Ken | Mar 3, 2008 9:14:20 AM

YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT:-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jack

Posted by: jacksmith | Mar 3, 2008 5:59:54 AM

GWBush lied about the reasons for going to war.
Hillary voted to protect America.
Obama didn't have to vote at all.
He only needs to talk, and talk, and talk ever so smugly about opposing the war without the consequence of voting.
He is a rat.

Posted by: johnsilverstone | Mar 3, 2008 4:16:41 AM

Go Hillary. It's now or never.

Posted by: Margy | Mar 3, 2008 4:08:05 AM

Now that America is safe, he is so smug he can come out crowing about how smart he was to oppose the war from day one. That to me smells so much like a rat basking in the glory and safety from the toils of others.
Obama is an ungrateful and spurious character not worthy to be taken seriously. I do not trust him.
I need to get all these off my chest in 3 different postings to highlite the irresponsibilties of that character, Obama. I repeat...I DO NOT TRUST HIM AND IT WOULD BE A SORRY DAY FOR AMERICA IF HE LAYS HIS GRUBBY HANDS ON THE NORMINATION!

Posted by: johnsilverstone | Mar 3, 2008 4:05:01 AM

Everybody already knows that we all want change! that is a no brainer and Obama treats the young people as if they are stupid that they don't know that we all want change.

We know that we will get change, that is a given. So, now the key question is, what changes and how those changes are implemented. Look at Bush and Obama's friend in Mass, they were both voted in their office based on hope and the promise to throw out establishment-- none have delivered! that is why Hillary won Mass despite the big endorsers like Kennedy and Kerry! we all know what we get from Bush 'hope and promise'.

Obama's plan so far has been a copy cat of Hillary's and where he tweaks, those tweaks are just plain wrong. For example, when he does not make universal health care a mandate for everyone like social security then it is not a universal health plan.

The Clinton's scandals did not impact people's life such as loosing a son, a house, a job, compare to costly mistakes of inexperienced presidents. We can't cavalierly think that 'oh well, it is only 4 years, we can always vote him out' -- look at the damages that can be done in the first 4 years, then in the last 4 years. Both JFK and Bush have the lucky star that they inherited a strong economy when they became presidents. Look at JFK's mistake with Cuba, and Bush's war. Our economy is in recession, we just don't have the cushion anymore for any more experiments.

Are you willing to loose your job, your house just to give Obama a chance?

Posted by: vote4thebest | Mar 3, 2008 3:58:50 AM

Go hillary, go!
Shove it down that peep-squeak for trying to lay it on you that you voted wrongly. You have every reason to be proud for voting to protect America. Rightly or wrongly, the security of America must always come first and paramount. You take ressponsibilty for your vote. Obama does not , because he did not have to weigh the consequences of not acting when America was perceived to be in danger.
That mouth Obama is all talk. He can say anything now because he was never ever brsve nor fortright. He did not need to bear the consequence of that vote, and if he did, he probably would be absent with all sorts of politically expedient excuses, or just vote PRESENT.
How can I be asked to trust one as irresponsible as him to be the Prez of the US of A.

Posted by: johnsilverstone | Mar 3, 2008 3:56:17 AM

Democrats, must never, never forget how Al Gore lost the 2000 election. He threw in the towel too quickly. If it had been hillary in 2000 we may have been spared the GWBush years of agony and shame.
hillary, battle all the way if you have the slimest of chance to help America. Its wowrth the battle, America is worth it. Do not let some of the democrat wimps tell you otherwise, never, never, never!

Posted by: johnsilverstone | Mar 3, 2008 3:38:53 AM

des

Bill Clinton must have done something right since he was re-elected for a second term. America was doing well financially. He left us with a huge surplus of money. America had no debt. That's quite an accomplishment considering how bad off we are now. Elect Hillary and Bill can help her fix the economy. Getting two for the price of one is a very good deal. They can get things done twice as fast and repair the damage Bush has done to our country.

Posted by: goldenstate | Mar 3, 2008 1:49:43 AM

Let's see... what did the Clinton Administration actually do in 8 years.

1) Turn a recession into the biggest economic growth cycle our country had ever seen.

2) Created the "high reward employment" ... Since most of you can't remember, the Clinton Administration had drove Unemployment into vitual oblivion and we were all making great money.

3) The Clinton Administration had given America a $1.3 TRILLON SURPLUS and was on the way to ERASING OUR NATIONAL DEBT!

I want to ask all of you one question...?

"IF THE NEXT PRESIDENT COULD CREATE HIGH PAYING JOBS, RE-ESTABLISH AN ECONOMIC SURPLUS, PAY DOWN DEBT WHILE PROVIDING HEALTHCARE AND ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION TO ONE AND ALL... WOULD YOU VOTE FOR THAT PERSON?

If YOU said "yes"... vote for Hillary.

If you think that the Clintons sex life is somehow important to your economic well-being... "you're a fool!" And when the economic recession hits.. I hope you voted correctly. Because if "you all" choose the wrong candidate... My family is leaving the USA and I wish you all the very best... good luck!

It's that simple.

Posted by: Randy | Mar 3, 2008 1:42:54 AM

What's the story on the Obama camp and the Canadian Ambassador on NAFTA? CTV strongly suggests that Obama was caught in a lie. US media has been sparse about it...I ran into it by accident trying to find both candidate's position on NAFTA....
I was big on Obama...but if all his talk is "just politics..." I'd have to reconsider...

Texas, Ohio, RI, Vermont...please do your homework before voting...
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don't be so quick to jump into Hillary's political machine. That story was DEBUNKED by both Canada's leaders and Mr. Obama's campaign.

Looks to me like someone from the Clinton campaign might have gotten this piece of trash going. They are experts at lying, distorting, and hurtful falsehoods.

Please recognize Bill and Hillary are the biggest liers who ever resided in OUR White House. They have not changed, believe me.


Posted by: NinaK | Mar 3, 2008 1:28:41 AM


Y'know, there's a time and a place for everything, and Gloria Steinem's time is *long* past.

She sound like that PETA lady.

The fact that the audience *laughed* at the idea of someone being tortured as a POW makes me sick, as a feminist. Hell, we've had women POW's now, who were tortured, raped, and barely rescued in time.

What, did Shoshana Johnson or Jessica Lynch get shafted by the press during their ordeal? I'd like to see Gloria live 5 minutes under that kind of pressure, and see what she says then. Lori Ann Piestewa never made it out alive.

I'm starting to wonder what is wrong with our so called forebearers in the feminist movement. Or maybe just a couple in particular, like our friends Steinem and Clinton. I'm starting to think these women are mentally ill.

Posted by: NeoFeminist | Mar 3, 2008 1:03:50 AM

"He also said, "The country is groaning and moaning and screaming for change to turn this country around and get it working again."

It is interesting how Bill phrases his comment. Does he really believe American citizens are "GROANING" and "MOANING" and "SCREAMING" for change? He make our citizens look and sound like lunatics! Those of us who support Mr. Obama are happily rallying around him because we have HOPE and because we believe in real honest-to-goodness change and we believe Mr. Obama will move this country FORWARD FOR A BRIGHTER AND BETTER AMERICA. We do NOT want to, nor do we need to, lower ourselves to acting like lunatics, grovelling, writhing and groaning, moaning, and screaming for change "to turn this country around and get IT WORKING AGAIN." (like in the 90s???) "Perhaps Hillary's supporters are conducting themselves is such a fashion?? And the change most of them are groaning, moaning, and screaming for is going back to the 90s because they are convinced Bill did great things for them but what they do not seem to recognize is that Hillary is not Bill. Frankly, when I think about Bill's and Hillary's residence in the White House, all I can remember is all the scandals they brought with them from Arkansas, the scandals they instigated and created while in the White House, and all the lies, deceit, coverups, and costly investigations at the expense of the taxpayers. I remember Bill lying to the Grand Jury, lying to us on national TV, his disbarment, and the impeachment proceedings against him. No, thank you, Bill and Hillary Clinton, I do not want the Clintons back in OUR White House and I don't want you to TURN THIS COUNTRY AROUND and get it working again. I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD!! You brought shame and disgrace to the Presidency, the White House, our country, and its citizens. You were the laughing stock of the world!

Posted by: NinaK | Mar 3, 2008 1:00:57 AM

What's the story on the Obama camp and the Canadian Ambassador on NAFTA? CTV strongly suggests that Obama was caught in a lie. US media has been sparse about it...I ran into it by accident trying to find both candidate's position on NAFTA....
I was big on Obama...but if all his talk is "just politics..." I'd have to reconsider...

Texas, Ohio, RI, Vermont...please do your homework before voting...

Posted by: Concerned Ohio Voter | Mar 2, 2008 10:47:13 PM

The Clintons are heartless and relentless. The real truth to Hillary's vote for the war is not her lack of judgment but her judging that she needed to appear war-like in order to be taken seriously as a potential commander-in-chief. Should there be a 3 a.m. wake-up call, it would be a militiary problem created by a fear-mongering, war-mongering POTUS like Hillary would be. Can we depend on a President who uses tears and fears to win a negative campaign againts another Democratic candidate? Can we trust a leader who is willing to tear down a speaker for a younger generation fo citizens? Should the Clinton dynasty win as they well might, it would mean the end of the resurgent Democratic Party and the start to a third party of independents. The first woman president of the US, should Hillary win, would be MRS CLINTON, the wife of a publicly disgraced sex-addicted President, who stayed with him to achieve her lust for power.

Posted by: shirlin | Mar 2, 2008 10:22:09 PM

Darrell. Excellent comments. I couldn't agree with you more! Although, I will be writing Hillary Clinton's name in instead of voting for Ralph Nader or choosing to stay home. Some people have told me it's a waste of my time to do this -- but I feel that it is a protest vote. This election process has been anything but democratic.

Posted by: Colleen | Mar 2, 2008 9:55:51 PM

Regardless of race, gender or religion, the best candidiate for President and Commander-In-Chief is without question, Hillary Clinton. Period. No buyer's remorse here.

Posted by: newsworthy | Mar 2, 2008 9:44:28 PM

Bill Clinton did not do anything worthwhile for America. So if that is the experience that Hillary is claiming, its pretty poor experience.
Hillary expected to be appointed the nominee. Thats just not right, not legitimate, not democratic.

Posted by: des | Mar 2, 2008 9:19:07 PM

I think Hillary said it best when she said "It took a Clinton to clean up after the first Bush. I believe it will take a Clinton to clean up after the second Bush". Yes Hillary has many critics. But this is exactly the point when she talks about being tested. Obama is too new and is unknown. Only now are more stories starting to come out relating to his dealings with Rezko. (A man under federal investigation.) Even Obama admits he made a "Bone-Headed mistake". relating to his dealing with Rezko and the purchase of his mansion. If he can make a judgement mistake such as this than how many other judgement mistakes has he made or will he make. The good thing about Hillary is that even though she may not be the best in everyone's eyes, I doubt she has any more skeletons in her closet. Do we really want to go into the general election with the possibility of having something come out about Obama that we do not yet know? I would rather stay with the tested candidate who is a fighter and has still survived.

Posted by: Joseph | Mar 2, 2008 9:16:28 PM

Hillary hang in there, I urge you not to quit this race just because some Congress people want you to bow out, remember you said you where a fighter, please stick to your guns and stay true to your statement, Let Obama work to bring America together, since he said he could do it better than you let him now prove what he said and promised he could do. Don't let some gender biased mass media outlets or Congress people who's backing Obama try and dictate to you when to quit this race no matter what. I'm not going to Unify behind a Presidential candidate in whom I don't trust, and lack's the experience over Hillary who has the experience to do the job from Day One of entering the Oval Office, I'm just not willing to take that leap and faith and hope on a "Johnny Come Lately 3 term Senator Obama.

Hillary, if you're no longer are in the race for whatever reason , I will be voting for Ralph Nader or staying home, instead of voting for Obama, because I do not like how you where treated throughout this campaign and doing the televised debates, you where always given the very difficult questions to answer by the Moderators and then Obama was given the opportunity to frame or piggyback his answers off of yours, Obama was very well shielded and protected by the media, he has never been challenged and scrutinized on his political or personal life as of yet like Hillary has, and this is very unfair and biased against Hillary. I guess the media is waiting to do this after they have helped to get Hillary out of the way, and then bring his campaign down to its knees allowing the Republican candidate to win and keep control of the White house for another four years, I believe this is the underlying strategy of the Republican Party and the media from the very beginning of this campaign.

I'm an African American Male who is not being a part of Unifying this Country or the Democratic Party at Hillary's expense, due to her lack of being treated fair, balanced, and objectively during this election primary season. Hillary Please Never Quit, Let Obama earn his Keep, Let him see if he can Walk the Walk he's been preaching about throughout this campaign, because the way you where treated in this campaign is going to make it very difficult for Obama to Unify the Democratic Party and rally Hillary Supporters around him doing the general election. Many Hillary supporters may stay home or vote for Ralph Nader in protest to Obama's Presidency, because most people in the leadership in Congress or the DNC did not support and rally behind the candidate Hillary Clinton, who has the most experience to tackle and fix the mess Bush will leave behind in 2009.

Posted by: Darrell | Mar 2, 2008 9:12:46 PM

Meg, now I really had to laugh. You're "much more educated in similar schools" than Obama? That's very impressive.

Let me give a resume. After high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles, where he studied at Occidental College for two years.He then transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations. Obama received his Bachelor of Arts in 1983, then worked at Business International Corporation and New York Public Interest Research Group before moving to Chicago to take a job as a community organizer. As Director of the Developing Communities Project, he worked with low-income residents in Chicago's Roseland community and the Altgeld Gardens public housing development. He entered Harvard Law School in 1988.In 1990, The New York Times reported his election as the Harvard Law Review's "first black president in its 104-year history". He completed his J.D. degree magna cum laude in 1991.

Do you any idea what it means in the USA to be elected as president of Harvard Law Review? If you did better, you must be so high ranking that it's pretty weird you're haninging around in blogs to discuss politics at high school level.

You sure are a funny girl, Meg. So all is not lost.

Posted by: Margot | Mar 2, 2008 9:11:05 PM

As a highly professional woman a decade younger than Mr. Obama, much more educated in similar schools, and a thick enough CV, I would say that Mr. Obama is indeed overrated.

The quality, multifaceted knowledge, courage, decisiveness and spirit of Ms. Clinton should not be neglected. PLEASE read about the legislations, the lack of voting on important issues, and his pure ambition rather than substance. I understand that he is a good speaker, but honestly many of his lines are not his own. He is not that authentic. Hillary was right, he copies out. Is it sufficient to go for someone who lacks innovative ideas in a rapidly changing world?

His lack of knowledge of the international affair is amazing. His comments on Pakistan and his response in the debate last week regarding the unilateral action against terrorists in Pakistan was simply primitive. First of all, the people of Pakistan have voted a few weeks ago AGAINST Musharaf government. Mr Obama mentioned his name in the debate as he was a legitimate and a democratically elected government that he is not. An attack such as the one that Obama suggests, does not yield to peace or safety for Americans, it will CREATE ENEMIES AND DESTABILIZES THE REGION. He is dangerous to be elected - G.W. was enough. American deserves better than that.

I was very much against the war, as was the majority of human population on this planet. I do not applaud for Hillary on this decision alone though I remember full well that she gave vote for permission not the unilateral attack, but I do believe that she is much more capable to clean up the mass.

I encourage you to vote for Hillary ... Please OHIO and TEXAS do so. I consider myself as a humanist, for the sake of humanity choose a woman with a substance.

Hillary 08.

Posted by: Meg | Mar 2, 2008 9:00:53 PM

Gloria. Thanks. I really enjoyed reading your post. It helped to lighten up things a bit.

Posted by: Samantha | Mar 2, 2008 8:50:39 PM

Anyone who criticizes Obama is a "hillary troll" to the pro-claimed voice of reason. Michelle Obama the wealthy one tells people not ot work for corporate America. that is frightening

Posted by: geevill | Mar 2, 2008 8:32:56 PM

*Sigh* Reading the comments section of all these blogs is quite a depressing statement about the public discourse. Can people actually discuss things without reading from the talking points of their respective favorite candidates?

Posted by: C.H. | Mar 2, 2008 8:06:51 PM

And now for some interesting news. Here's some stumping for Hillary Clinton in NY. McCain voters, tighten your seatbelts:

AUSTIN, Texas—Feminist icon Gloria Steinem took to the stump on Hillary Clinton’s behalf here last night and quickly proved that she has lost none of her taste for provocation.

From the stage, the 73-year-old seemed to denigrate the importance of John McCain’s time as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. In an interview with the Observer afterward, she suggested that Barack Obama benefits—and Clinton suffers—because Americans view racism more seriously than sexism.

Steinem also told the crowd that one reason to back Clinton was because “she actually enjoys conflict.”

And she claimed that if Clinton’s experience as First Lady were taken seriously in relation to her White House bid, people might “finally admit that, say, being a secretary is the best way to learn your boss’s job and take it over.”

Steinem raised McCain’s Vietnam imprisonment as she sought to highlight an alleged gender-based media bias against Clinton.

“Suppose John McCain had been Joan McCain and Joan McCain had got captured, shot down and been a POW for eight years. [The media would ask], ‘What did you do wrong to get captured? What terrible things did you do while you were there as a captive for eight years?’” Steinem said, to laughter from the audience.

Posted by: Gloria | Mar 2, 2008 7:48:34 PM

Rickey in Texas that's just too funny.

Posted by: Mike | Mar 2, 2008 7:45:01 PM

So if the country is moaning in groaning for change, Mr. Clinton should endorse Obama. We've already seen what him and his wife can do.

Sheeeeesh.....

Posted by: ROB | Mar 2, 2008 7:29:35 PM

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