Bill Clinton: U.S. Is 'Groaning and Moaning and Screaming for Change'

What's the story on the Obama camp and the Canadian Ambassador on NAFTA? CTV strongly suggests that Obama was caught in a lie. US media has been sparse about it...I ran into it by accident trying to find both candidate's position on NAFTA....
I was big on Obama...but if all his talk is "just politics..." I'd have to reconsider...

Texas, Ohio, RI, Vermont...please do your homework before voting...
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don't be so quick to jump into Hillary's political machine. That story was DEBUNKED by both Canada's leaders and Mr. Obama's campaign.

Looks to me like someone from the Clinton campaign might have gotten this piece of trash going. They are experts at lying, distorting, and hurtful falsehoods.

Please recognize Bill and Hillary are the biggest liers who ever resided in OUR White House. They have not changed, believe me.

Y'know, there's a time and a place for everything, and Gloria Steinem's time is *long* past.

She sound like that PETA lady.

The fact that the audience *laughed* at the idea of someone being tortured as a POW makes me sick, as a feminist. Hell, we've had women POW's now, who were tortured, raped, and barely rescued in time.

What, did Shoshana Johnson or Jessica Lynch get shafted by the press during their ordeal? I'd like to see Gloria live 5 minutes under that kind of pressure, and see what she says then. Lori Ann Piestewa never made it out alive.

I'm starting to wonder what is wrong with our so called forebearers in the feminist movement. Or maybe just a couple in particular, like our friends Steinem and Clinton. I'm starting to think these women are mentally ill.

"He also said, "The country is groaning and moaning and screaming for change to turn this country around and get it working again."

It is interesting how Bill phrases his comment. Does he really believe American citizens are "GROANING" and "MOANING" and "SCREAMING" for change? He make our citizens look and sound like lunatics! Those of us who support Mr. Obama are happily rallying around him because we have HOPE and because we believe in real honest-to-goodness change and we believe Mr. Obama will move this country FORWARD FOR A BRIGHTER AND BETTER AMERICA. We do NOT want to, nor do we need to, lower ourselves to acting like lunatics, grovelling, writhing and groaning, moaning, and screaming for change "to turn this country around and get IT WORKING AGAIN." (like in the 90s???) "Perhaps Hillary's supporters are conducting themselves is such a fashion?? And the change most of them are groaning, moaning, and screaming for is going back to the 90s because they are convinced Bill did great things for them but what they do not seem to recognize is that Hillary is not Bill. Frankly, when I think about Bill's and Hillary's residence in the White House, all I can remember is all the scandals they brought with them from Arkansas, the scandals they instigated and created while in the White House, and all the lies, deceit, coverups, and costly investigations at the expense of the taxpayers. I remember Bill lying to the Grand Jury, lying to us on national TV, his disbarment, and the impeachment proceedings against him. No, thank you, Bill and Hillary Clinton, I do not want the Clintons back in OUR White House and I don't want you to TURN THIS COUNTRY AROUND and get it working again. I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD!! You brought shame and disgrace to the Presidency, the White House, our country, and its citizens. You were the laughing stock of the world!

What's the story on the Obama camp and the Canadian Ambassador on NAFTA? CTV strongly suggests that Obama was caught in a lie. US media has been sparse about it...I ran into it by accident trying to find both candidate's position on NAFTA....
I was big on Obama...but if all his talk is "just politics..." I'd have to reconsider...

Texas, Ohio, RI, Vermont...please do your homework before voting...

The Clintons are heartless and relentless. The real truth to Hillary's vote for the war is not her lack of judgment but her judging that she needed to appear war-like in order to be taken seriously as a potential commander-in-chief. Should there be a 3 a.m. wake-up call, it would be a militiary problem created by a fear-mongering, war-mongering POTUS like Hillary would be. Can we depend on a President who uses tears and fears to win a negative campaign againts another Democratic candidate? Can we trust a leader who is willing to tear down a speaker for a younger generation fo citizens? Should the Clinton dynasty win as they well might, it would mean the end of the resurgent Democratic Party and the start to a third party of independents. The first woman president of the US, should Hillary win, would be MRS CLINTON, the wife of a publicly disgraced sex-addicted President, who stayed with him to achieve her lust for power.

Darrell. Excellent comments. I couldn't agree with you more! Although, I will be writing Hillary Clinton's name in instead of voting for Ralph Nader or choosing to stay home. Some people have told me it's a waste of my time to do this -- but I feel that it is a protest vote. This election process has been anything but democratic.

Regardless of race, gender or religion, the best candidiate for President and Commander-In-Chief is without question, Hillary Clinton. Period. No buyer's remorse here.

Bill Clinton did not do anything worthwhile for America. So if that is the experience that Hillary is claiming, its pretty poor experience.
Hillary expected to be appointed the nominee. Thats just not right, not legitimate, not democratic.

I think Hillary said it best when she said "It took a Clinton to clean up after the first Bush. I believe it will take a Clinton to clean up after the second Bush". Yes Hillary has many critics. But this is exactly the point when she talks about being tested. Obama is too new and is unknown. Only now are more stories starting to come out relating to his dealings with Rezko. (A man under federal investigation.) Even Obama admits he made a "Bone-Headed mistake". relating to his dealing with Rezko and the purchase of his mansion. If he can make a judgement mistake such as this than how many other judgement mistakes has he made or will he make. The good thing about Hillary is that even though she may not be the best in everyone's eyes, I doubt she has any more skeletons in her closet. Do we really want to go into the general election with the possibility of having something come out about Obama that we do not yet know? I would rather stay with the tested candidate who is a fighter and has still survived.

Hillary hang in there, I urge you not to quit this race just because some Congress people want you to bow out, remember you said you where a fighter, please stick to your guns and stay true to your statement, Let Obama work to bring America together, since he said he could do it better than you let him now prove what he said and promised he could do. Don't let some gender biased mass media outlets or Congress people who's backing Obama try and dictate to you when to quit this race no matter what. I'm not going to Unify behind a Presidential candidate in whom I don't trust, and lack's the experience over Hillary who has the experience to do the job from Day One of entering the Oval Office, I'm just not willing to take that leap and faith and hope on a "Johnny Come Lately 3 term Senator Obama.

Hillary, if you're no longer are in the race for whatever reason , I will be voting for Ralph Nader or staying home, instead of voting for Obama, because I do not like how you where treated throughout this campaign and doing the televised debates, you where always given the very difficult questions to answer by the Moderators and then Obama was given the opportunity to frame or piggyback his answers off of yours, Obama was very well shielded and protected by the media, he has never been challenged and scrutinized on his political or personal life as of yet like Hillary has, and this is very unfair and biased against Hillary. I guess the media is waiting to do this after they have helped to get Hillary out of the way, and then bring his campaign down to its knees allowing the Republican candidate to win and keep control of the White house for another four years, I believe this is the underlying strategy of the Republican Party and the media from the very beginning of this campaign.

I'm an African American Male who is not being a part of Unifying this Country or the Democratic Party at Hillary's expense, due to her lack of being treated fair, balanced, and objectively during this election primary season. Hillary Please Never Quit, Let Obama earn his Keep, Let him see if he can Walk the Walk he's been preaching about throughout this campaign, because the way you where treated in this campaign is going to make it very difficult for Obama to Unify the Democratic Party and rally Hillary Supporters around him doing the general election. Many Hillary supporters may stay home or vote for Ralph Nader in protest to Obama's Presidency, because most people in the leadership in Congress or the DNC did not support and rally behind the candidate Hillary Clinton, who has the most experience to tackle and fix the mess Bush will leave behind in 2009.

Meg, now I really had to laugh. You're "much more educated in similar schools" than Obama? That's very impressive.

Let me give a resume. After high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles, where he studied at Occidental College for two years.He then transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations. Obama received his Bachelor of Arts in 1983, then worked at Business International Corporation and New York Public Interest Research Group before moving to Chicago to take a job as a community organizer. As Director of the Developing Communities Project, he worked with low-income residents in Chicago's Roseland community and the Altgeld Gardens public housing development. He entered Harvard Law School in 1988.In 1990, The New York Times reported his election as the Harvard Law Review's "first black president in its 104-year history". He completed his J.D. degree magna cum laude in 1991.

Do you any idea what it means in the USA to be elected as president of Harvard Law Review? If you did better, you must be so high ranking that it's pretty weird you're haninging around in blogs to discuss politics at high school level.

You sure are a funny girl, Meg. So all is not lost.

As a highly professional woman a decade younger than Mr. Obama, much more educated in similar schools, and a thick enough CV, I would say that Mr. Obama is indeed overrated.

The quality, multifaceted knowledge, courage, decisiveness and spirit of Ms. Clinton should not be neglected. PLEASE read about the legislations, the lack of voting on important issues, and his pure ambition rather than substance. I understand that he is a good speaker, but honestly many of his lines are not his own. He is not that authentic. Hillary was right, he copies out. Is it sufficient to go for someone who lacks innovative ideas in a rapidly changing world?

His lack of knowledge of the international affair is amazing. His comments on Pakistan and his response in the debate last week regarding the unilateral action against terrorists in Pakistan was simply primitive. First of all, the people of Pakistan have voted a few weeks ago AGAINST Musharaf government. Mr Obama mentioned his name in the debate as he was a legitimate and a democratically elected government that he is not. An attack such as the one that Obama suggests, does not yield to peace or safety for Americans, it will CREATE ENEMIES AND DESTABILIZES THE REGION. He is dangerous to be elected - G.W. was enough. American deserves better than that.

I was very much against the war, as was the majority of human population on this planet. I do not applaud for Hillary on this decision alone though I remember full well that she gave vote for permission not the unilateral attack, but I do believe that she is much more capable to clean up the mass.

I encourage you to vote for Hillary ... Please OHIO and TEXAS do so. I consider myself as a humanist, for the sake of humanity choose a woman with a substance.

Hillary 08.

Gloria. Thanks. I really enjoyed reading your post. It helped to lighten up things a bit.

Anyone who criticizes Obama is a "hillary troll" to the pro-claimed voice of reason. Michelle Obama the wealthy one tells people not ot work for corporate America. that is frightening

*Sigh* Reading the comments section of all these blogs is quite a depressing statement about the public discourse. Can people actually discuss things without reading from the talking points of their respective favorite candidates?

And now for some interesting news. Here's some stumping for Hillary Clinton in NY. McCain voters, tighten your seatbelts:

AUSTIN, Texas—Feminist icon Gloria Steinem took to the stump on Hillary Clinton’s behalf here last night and quickly proved that she has lost none of her taste for provocation.

From the stage, the 73-year-old seemed to denigrate the importance of John McCain’s time as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. In an interview with the Observer afterward, she suggested that Barack Obama benefits—and Clinton suffers—because Americans view racism more seriously than sexism.

Steinem also told the crowd that one reason to back Clinton was because “she actually enjoys conflict.”

And she claimed that if Clinton’s experience as First Lady were taken seriously in relation to her White House bid, people might “finally admit that, say, being a secretary is the best way to learn your boss’s job and take it over.”

Steinem raised McCain’s Vietnam imprisonment as she sought to highlight an alleged gender-based media bias against Clinton.

“Suppose John McCain had been Joan McCain and Joan McCain had got captured, shot down and been a POW for eight years. [The media would ask], ‘What did you do wrong to get captured? What terrible things did you do while you were there as a captive for eight years?’” Steinem said, to laughter from the audience.

Rickey in Texas that's just too funny.

So if the country is moaning in groaning for change, Mr. Clinton should endorse Obama. We've already seen what him and his wife can do.

Sheeeeesh.....