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Bob Dole v. Naomi Wolf
March 14, 2008 6:17 PM
Said Democratic consultant and author Naomi Wolf on MSNBC:
"We're looking increasingly at a police state and the American people are asking about this and I have to say with great disappointment, the major media figures who are asking both Obama and Clinton and McCain the tough questions aren't even going there. They are not even saying to McCain, you were tortured, you were held prisoner, you gave information under duress in enemy hands. And you allowed them to create loopholes in the Military Commissions Act that you passed in 2006. What happened with that?"
Responded 1996 GOP presidential candidate and former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole:
"This is a shameful attack on an America hero. John McCain has served his country with courage and honor. Tomorrow marks the 35th anniversary of John's release from the notorious 'Hanoi Hilton,' after being held for 5 ½ years as a prisoner of war. For Ms. Wolf to challenge John McCain's integrity and commitment to his country is disgraceful. Ms. Wolf's comments illustrate the growing disconnect between anti-war extremists like MoveOn.org and the very real challenges of waging a war against radical Islamic extremism. John McCain understands these challenges. He has proven himself to his fellow POWs and he has proven himself to the American people."
Thoughts?
- jpt
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statement 1: McCain underwent torture statement 2: Torture is right/wrong.
statement 2 should be made independent of 1. Anyone thinking that 2 follows 1 in someway have forgotten to think for themsevles.
Posted by: Venkat | Mar 16, 2008 2:52:02 AM
As a McCain supporter, I say, when Rev. Jeremiah Wright's unavailable for comment, MORE Naomi Wolf!
Posted by: Nietzschean | Mar 16, 2008 12:58:15 AM
Is it easier for the media to sit back and watch two people engage in shouting matches, or report on actual analysis of the issues? Hmmm.
I like John McCain in many respects and think it's terrible the way radio hosts have assailed him. I don't think he would make a terrible president, but I do prefer Obama. Ms. Wolfe's comments were provocative, and Dole gave no direct response to the issues she raised. I have no clue, but McCain should not be beat up on, nor should Clinton or Obama.
The point in question, aside from McCain, was the police state issue and how easy it is to slip into one. The media covers the tabloid aspects of campaigns and candidates, but has a hard time reporting on (and framing the importance of) profound issues.
No, America is not a police state. No, we do not want it to become one.
Posted by: Karen | Mar 15, 2008 5:19:04 PM
Look, no one has been more outspoken against the use or torture than McCain. But I'm more struck by his first hand experience with a real police state and Wolf's clear ignorance of what the term even means. In a real police state, Wolf would have "disappeared" long ago. But does even she consider this a real possibility in the US? Of course not.
Posted by: Judasmac | Mar 15, 2008 10:49:18 AM
I love John McCain - and Robert Dole and I think anyone who doesn't think that they are American heros is nuts. Dole's been carrying his wounds for his entire life - and was an admirable Senator who worked across party lines again and again. McCain has a chance to leave captivity, based on his family's priviledge and turned it down.
But does McCain deserve a free ride to the Presidency, which he's getting from the press? No. He deserves the same treatment every other candidiate gets. Count the number of negative/investigative pieces on John McCain on this site in the last four months. Good luck finding two. There is one - on autism - and with the state of the economy, health care and foreign relations, I don't think that requires additional comment. Start reporting. On all of the candidates.
Posted by: Mara | Mar 15, 2008 1:24:56 AM
Check out "Vietnam Veterans Against McCain" and ask yourself why the families of Vietnam era POW's were not allowed to search for their husbands, fathers, and sons. John McCain and John Kerry stood in the way of finding out what happened to these men. Look into it for yourself, and tell those families it's a lie. What right does McCain or Kerry have to cover up what happened to these men? He was a pilot, not a general. What are he and Kerry trying to keep America from looking into? At the very least it is worthy of an investigation. Anybody who thinks otherwise, is blindly supporting two politicans over the will and the right of those families to know what happened to these men. How can any political aspiration be worth leaving your fellow men in battle behind? Both McCain and Kerry's actions in this matter are dishonorable. Just ask anyone who has lost a family member in combat. Don't be afraid of the truth, just look into it for yourself.
Posted by: cba | Mar 14, 2008 7:03:35 PM
Wheather he's a hero or not has nothing to do with it. He's experienced torture first hand, he was against it and now is for it. He's running for president, of copurse it's a valid question, or is he another republican that we're never to question, you know, like Bush. We sure know now what not asking him the right questions got us, don't we?
Posted by: JR | Mar 14, 2008 7:01:08 PM
Ms. Wolf's comment, right or wrong, was not a "shameful attack" on John McCain, but rather a valid question. McCain has more credibility on torture than any politician today, and his refusal to back down to the White House in 2006 during the deliberations over the Military Commissions Act showed his courage in the face of political adversity. That being said, he has flip-flopped on torture, in light of his most recent support of President Bush and keeping the torture exception open, and for McCain to answer questions about this is fair game. I'm not sure why Senator Dole reacted the way he did.
Posted by: Ross | Mar 14, 2008 6:50:30 PM
Sen. McCain doesn't have to answer that question. If anyone thinks being tortured for almost six years is a joke, then something is wrong. John McCain is a real American hero, no questions asked.
Posted by: Oretega M | Mar 14, 2008 6:30:40 PM
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