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Clinton-backer McGovern: Harder to Elect a Woman Than a Black Man
March 25, 2008 5:00 PM
Sen. George McGovern, D-SD -- whose endorsement of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, you may recall we broke here on this blog -- seemed to indicate to the AP in a story that just hopped onto the wires that he thinks Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, has a better chance of getting the Democratic presidential nomination than Clinton.
Why?
Because, said the 1972 Democratic presidential nominee, "I have a feeling that in this country where we're at today in our thinking, it's going to be harder to elect a woman than to elect a black man...I wish that
weren't true ... I'd love to see Hillary as president."
McGovern says some men he's spoken with say that a woman isn't ready for the responsibility.
"Some guy will say, 'Well, I think that's too big a job for a woman, I don't think she can handle those terrorists,"' he said. "I think we've never had a woman so well qualified that's on the national scene."
- jpt
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George McGovern had two major problems which the American Voters correctly perceived: (1) He betrayed his own Vice Presidential Nominee when the going got rough (discovery of a history of treatment for mental illness with electroshock therapy), (2) He betrayed his Country and especially its soldiers when the going got rough.
McGovern is so far out of it that he thinks Hillary and Obama are fine people and candidates. Hillary is quite unwell mentally (Now AND in the past) as well as being a Communist; Obama is simply a Communist.
Posted by: bbjr | Mar 27, 2008 10:25:32 PM
Choosing a President is a very important decision. The world has shown that women can and do lead... and do it effectively. There are many examples of this. The criteria used to pick a presidential canididate should be character, judgment, decision making, experience, honesty, trustworthiness & leadership. While I see some of these qualities in all three canididates, Sen. Clinton being a woman has nothing to do with it. Nor do I think men have "complete ownership" over these qualities. Sen. Clinton's problem is she has poor character, she... to her own admission, has been untruthful, and most people according to a recent poll don't see her as being trustworthly. If Condelica Rice was running as the republician presidential canididate, I would strongly support her canididacy. Sen. Clinton quite honestly has poor character and that's the problem most have with her, not because she is a women
Posted by: Bruce | Mar 27, 2008 7:59:27 AM
There must be lots of uneducated people on this board. It refects in the sexism.
Women who are sexist are into self hatred. I have little patience for women who are self hating.
If you won't vote for Hillary then you are sexist.
All you are left with are your pre-conceived notions that have nothing to do with Senator Clinton. That's sad.
Posted by: Lou | Mar 27, 2008 2:09:58 AM
McGovern is a fat headed loser. He is jealous of the Clintons. He wishes he was as smart and as popular. He's a one term president voted in by the first time youth voters of the Viet-Nam era. Who cares what he says.
McGovern go away. I thought you were passed on already. Seems you've come back from the dead.
McGovern is really voicing this as his own secret opinion. McGovern is from the old boys network in an era that was way before womens lib. Of course he would say this about a woman for president. He is inherently sexist by proxy. I wouldn't expect him to respond in any other way. He is from the day when women were "personal property". What do you expect him to say?
Posted by: Lou | Mar 27, 2008 2:00:12 AM
A woman not being able to handle terrorists? Show me one woman who is not sly, sneaky and conniving. When they get mad everyone gets out of the way. Plus they have this uncanny sixth sense. Call it woman's intuition. I don't know how they do it but they are always reading peoples minds.
Hillary is way past the hormonal influence so she will be a wise and cunning opponent. I think we are seeing it already. As Obama says-Hillary is a formidable oponent.
It time for a woman to lead. The "take over by force" hasn't worked at all so far and a woman may be the touch that is needed for our country to get back it's standing in the world.
Besides, she will not be going it alone like Bush is. She knows what she's doing. Trust her. Why can't we just get off the broken record of gender and race and look at things the way we should? Is it possible?
Posted by: Lou | Mar 27, 2008 1:47:41 AM
druggstohr:
Don't wait for Obama!
I'll say it! McGovern's comments were
racist in nature!
Why is it that all of Clinton's surrogates including her husband bring up Obama's race instead of pointing out policy differences etc!
Everybody knows he's black, so what!
He has never implied or said that people
should vote for him because of his race!
How about debating the issues instead of pointing out the obvious, that one candidate is black and the other is a woman!
Posted by: reaganfan | Mar 27, 2008 1:00:38 AM
WestCoastMessinger:
No it took the arrogant Hillary Clinton
surrogates to show their racist nature!
Bill Clinton started the ball rolling after Obama cleaned her clock in
South Carolina when he first injected race into the campaign!
Then it was Ed Rendell in Pennsylvania,
Geraldine Ferraro and now
George McGovern!
Posted by: reaganfan | Mar 27, 2008 12:47:47 AM
It is not that a woman couldn't win the presidency.It is that woman can not win the presidency. She has just too many problems. People know that she is a liar, win at any costs, she doesn't play nicely with others, She doesn't mind blowing her constituents by race baiting. How will she be accepted by world leaders? They all see what a lying person she is. Its over for her.
Posted by: Lauenpow | Mar 26, 2008 10:15:25 PM
Clinton-backer McGovern: Harder to Elect a Woman Than a Black Man
It is only harder on Clinton Because people know her and don't want her and her scandalous husband in the white house she is a pathological liar. Thats why she can not win and will not win
Posted by: Lauenpow | Mar 26, 2008 10:07:31 PM
Phsychology has it that women generally think less of themselves in soceity. That is why the most people critical of a woman candidacy are women.
They do not have a high opinion about themselves.
The most hatred expressed in this bloggersphere are women. It' almost like self hatred. Sad.
Posted by: SO1 | Mar 26, 2008 8:57:29 PM
I am not voting for a liar/hypocrite like Hillary Rodham Clinton. I want a woman president. But she in particular is not good for America. Watch the Hilllary Clinton:the movie and the Clinton Chronicles.
Posted by: Susan | Mar 26, 2008 8:17:10 PM
I am not voting for a hypocrite/liar like BHO.
Posted by: Indus | Mar 26, 2008 1:09:16 PM
All of McGovern's children and all of McGovern's grandchildren are supporting Obama. 'Nuff said.
Posted by: Tom J | Mar 26, 2008 12:53:03 PM
Hypocrisy is the best word to describe the 20 years of Obama, known as "the best candidate to unite our country", listening the words of hate from Mr Wright and contributing for his church. Our children don't need these teachings; they need to learn words of tolerance and love - this is just my opinion. We are in different times, and we are exposed in our daily lives to live in a more populous and diversified country with different races and cultures(this is fact). Reverend word is such a big word and is not for everyone. "The most memorable and perhaps most inspiring speech given by one of our century's greatest civil rights leaders and orators."Reverend" is for Martin Luther King Jr., a man who really made a difference, and that is the kind words and preaching we need to spread "tolerance" and “respect” (my opinion). I am proud to be an American, where I walk in the streets, and I see all kind different people passing by “free” to express their believes and their religions. Mr. Wright has his right to express his believes; and I have mine to walk way and not to listen to him. I would like to see Mr Obama had done the same, once he decided he is going to be a "public representative" to all the people from this nation.
Posted by: Lucia | Mar 26, 2008 11:49:05 AM
Good Lord, all you female worshipers are making me sick. I'm a w/woman over during the really tough times for women. But, this line of support that WE MUST VOTE FOR HILLARY BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN is pathetic. I guess that is all you have left since Hilary's fairy tale experience has been exposed for what it was...a lie.
I don't care what body parts or skin color our next President has as long as that President is honest, has character, is a leader as well as a negotiator, and breathes life into the dying Democratic old-school party we currently have. I want a President not tied to the purse strings of huge money special interest groups and lobbists. I want a President who will act AND listen.
That pretty much eliminates your desperate, bitter, venom spewing, polarizing, burn Rome, lying female God now doesn't it. We are talking about the President of the United States for God's sake. Who wants that kind of a person as President? The answer is obvious to me.
I'm no theologian, but I accept the many many comments that Wright was an honored one...so much so Billy Boy invited him to the White House when he cried to all those ministers "I HAVE SINNED". I can accept that Obama should not be crucified because of some soundbites of his old preacher who has retired from the church. I cannot accept that Richardson is Judas. I believe that religion should play no part in politics.
You want us to think Hillary just misspoke about Bosnia. She lied. Hillary DID SAY THOSE LIES, several times and as recently as March 17 with her little shamrock scarf draped around her neck. We have people who served, died and were injured in Bosnia...not for her and Chelsea's photo op but for that 8 year old little girl who lived under sniper fire for real.
Now let's elect a real Commander-In-Chief and start solving the very real and complex problems this nation has. It will require a president that will not act or lash out in anger, one with many skill sets, intellect, temperment, and one who will be a very strong negotiator.
Posted by: Female Voter | Mar 26, 2008 11:30:09 AM
I have talked to a lot of men mostly in their forties or fifties who said that they feel Clinton would be a better president but they voted for Obama because they ust can't vote for a woman as president, so in some ways I think he's right atleast for the older men.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | Mar 26, 2008 11:26:32 AM
"Last week, Dean Snyder, the senior minister at the Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington D.C. -- which the Clintons famously attended while in the White House -- released a little noticed statement offering a sympathetic defense of the totality of Wright's work."
And so a perfect example of why Senator Clinton stated that "Wright would not be my pastor." She attends churches where the pastor is forgiving as pastors should be, welcoming, inclusive, reasonable, and sane; not a "crazy old uncle."
A church anyone would be proud to attend.
Posted by: AHoban | Mar 26, 2008 11:26:13 AM
McGovern's view overlooks the massive turnout by women eager to elect the first female President.
And as to terrorists, etc., - last I looked, they are mostly male - time to send a woman against them! I don't see our male "leaders" taking down al-Qaeda and bin Laden.
Posted by: Martin | Mar 26, 2008 11:01:25 AM
No George McGovern it is harder, almost impossible, to elect a far left liberal like Obama over a moderate like Clinton. George knows that better than anyone.
Posted by: geevill | Mar 26, 2008 10:43:10 AM
FOR ALL THOSE FOLKS WHO KEEP ASKING WHY HAS OBAMA SAT IN THE RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS; HAVE YOU LISTENDED TO PASTOR WRIGHTS|"S LAST 20 YEAR'S OF SERMONS BEFORE HE RETIRED??!!! I KNOW THE CLINTN'S DIDN'T!! I MEAN, HERE IS THIS "RABID RACE-BAITER" BEING INVITED TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO PRAY FOR POOR BILLY DURING HIS TIME OF NEED?? IF HE WAS SUCH A "LIGHTENING ROD" HOW DID HE GET INTO THE WHITE HOUSE TO PRAY FOR BILLY; I MEAN SOMEBODY MUST OF THOUGHT HE WAS RESPECTABLE ENOUGH TO MERIT THE WHITE HOUSE PHOTO OPPORTUNITY FOR BILLY-BOY!! FOR THOSE THAT OUR GENIUINELY CONCERNED; IT'S OKAY TO HAVE THE QUESTION, BUT PLEASE RESEARCH THE LAST 20 YEARS AND YOU WILL SEE THAT PASTOR WRIGHT HAS A LONG AND RESPECTED HISTORY; NOT THE HISTORY OF THE LUNATIC FRINGE YOU NOW WANT TO ASSIGN TO HIM FOR MAKING SEVERAL INCENDIARY REMARKS. BY THE WAY; HAVE YOU HEARD THE ENTIRE 9-11 SPEECH?? FOR THOSE AGAIN WHO ARE GENUINELY INTERESTED PLEASE LISTEN; ALTHOUGH I DISAGREE WITH HIM; IT IS INDEED PROVOCATIVE. ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK THE AIDS - REMARK IS VALID; I DO ALSO KNOW THAT OUR GOVERNMENT HAD PREVIOUSLY EXPERIMENTED ON BLACK MEN W/ SYPHLISS INJECTIONS!! SOUNDS HARD TO BELIEVE; BUT THAT DID INDEED HAPPEN...
Posted by: AGBI | Mar 26, 2008 10:35:57 AM
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