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Clinton Surrogate Steinem Attacks McCain's War Record
March 02, 2008 8:39 PM
The New York Observer reports that in Austin, Texas, over the weekend, feminist icon Gloria Steinem belittled Sen. John McCain's five-and-a-half years as a POW and said the media would treat that war record differently if it were a woman veteran's record.
"Suppose John McCain had been Joan McCain and Joan McCain had got captured, shot down and been a POW for eight years?" Steinem asked, suggesting the media would ask "'What did you do wrong to get captured? What terrible things did you do while you were there as a captive for eight years?" ...
Referring to his time in captivity, Steinem said, with bewilderment, "I mean, hello? This is supposed to be a qualification to be president? I don’t think so."
- jpt
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Well, the "momentum" has shifted as I Pat, & others stated would happen yesterday. I knew Hillary would win the big 3, as she did. No surpise for me. My dream has been to watch the oh so surprised msm media faces as she trounched obama in the big states needed to win in the general election. Of course the media spin now is: oh yes, great for 5 seconds. Now, the numbers just are not there. Not even a honeymoon period with the media for Hillary. The truth is: she will win with superdelegates & what kind of sham was Florida & Michigan? Since when does this country not recognize 2 huge states in the Primary? We must have those states. The Founders would be horrified. Not count 2 huge states? Doesn't sound legal to me although I am no expert. Hillary might just need the superdelegates, but I also think Florida & Michigan must be counted
Posted by: teresa | Mar 5, 2008 1:21:48 PM
Well its good to see that all the Gloria Steinem bashing has stopped and it didn't effect Hilliary's winning Texas, Rhode Island, and Ohio, and for those who think this race is not about gender, and color all one had to do was watch CNN or Fox thats all they talked about. Women have finally come together like the guys and are sticking together. Some may say it shouldn't be about the aforementioned issues but it is from what I can see. I hope she gets then delegates and we finally get the frist female president. One can only hope!
Posted by: Pat | Mar 5, 2008 9:13:05 AM
Lai, if you knew anything about Gloria, then you would know your comments are not true. As a westener she fought for all womens rights not just the white middle class but all women, I remember well I lived through those times did you?
Posted by: alexis | Mar 4, 2008 8:21:24 PM
Its interesting that men and some women don't mind bashing Hilliary or Gloria regarding thier sex. But yet I never hear that MCcain is an old man, Huckabee is a right wing religious kook!Who cares if Gloria is a feminist. So what does that mean is that some sort of disease? What about all the comments made by some regarding women such as they don't fight in wars ect. Hello is that what makes some men feel like men because they fight in a war. Well I hate to tell you incase you didn't notice some women are fighting right along with the boys. If Gloria had an abortion, so what thats her business, if she doesn't want to get married so what, if she doesn't like men who cares. Why does she have to explain her reasoning to anyone. She is what she is and her opinion is hers if you don't like her who cares. I am sure she is secure enough within herself that she really doesn't care what people say at the ripe old age of 70+. If you don't like her because she is a feminist thats your problem! Why does feminism really gaul some men?
Posted by: Pat | Mar 4, 2008 8:15:09 PM
Excuse me. AT LEAST 18,000 people in this country die per year because they have no healthcare in this, the richest country in the world. Sorry for the error.
Posted by: teresa | Mar 4, 2008 6:23:05 PM
Hillary has been doing fantastic lately. It's the money game & you know it. Look what happened to the fabulous & caring John Edwards, who set the bar for giving a damn for other human beings in this campaign. Why don't you sell your SUV & go visit some people in Homeless Shelters? Go make yourself useful. AT LEAST 18,000 people in this country have no healthcare in this the richest country in the world. I wonder where all the moola is going? Have you filled your SUV up lately? George Bush & his Oil Cronies are lining their pockets to a vulgar degreee while the people starve and die from no healthcare. Not to mention trying to do away with Children't Healthcare. Which was CREATED by Hillary Clinton.
This Repub Era is like a Charles Dickens Novel. "More please sir, can I have some more porridge"? Why don't you quit stuffing your face with lobster & caviar & go feed some starving children in America? Oh BTW, the American people spoke in the midterms & in this Primary. Americans are sick to death of corporate america getting rich on this & other senseless wars. Rudie Giuliani felt the sting of that public opionion, as will John McCain. People will vote. Oh they will vote. Repubs don't have a chance this year, or for quite a long time. Have a nice day.
Posted by: teresa | Mar 4, 2008 6:21:16 PM
I don't know why Gloria Steinem is getting undue attention. I'd like to point out that she is a western feminist, and so her opinions reflect those of second wave middle/upper class white feminists. She's not an ICON of any sort to younger generation of feminists or even older generation of feminists of color. Her position reiterates the fact that those group of feminists(western) don't care of intersectional identities rather they focus only on gender. May I remind Ms Steinem that being a feminist does not mean you must support every female. Feminism is much broader than just touting sexist oppression, it's about social justice; race, class, sexuality etc.
Posted by: Lai | Mar 4, 2008 6:12:04 PM
Gloria Steinman is as irrelevant as Huckabee is. Who cares? Maybe she should have been a POW? oh yeah, she has been a POW throughout her entire life because of her enslavement by men
Posted by: Mark | Mar 4, 2008 5:06:46 PM
Hmmm. Sort of like how the media has yet to make a peep about Clinton not releasing her tax returns and First Lady documents. And how Clinton got a free pass of "inevitablity" for nearly a year before Iowa. Damn that biased media! They're always out to get poor Hillary. It's not the voters who aren't voting for her, it's the media. I think Steinem might want to wait until Hillary has cut into Obama's lead before parading her disgusting McCain insults for all to see.
Posted by: Sandra Ridge | Mar 4, 2008 4:40:55 PM
This is kind of interesting. Wasn't it Gloria Steinem who once was asked why she had not got married & she said something like..."I can't mate in captivity"? Kinda funny. Anyone? Was that her?
Posted by: teresa | Mar 4, 2008 3:47:48 PM
Uhmm...Who is the ill informed idiot that just insulted all the GREAT Female leaders all over the world, in Ireland & in Pakistan? Rest In Peace Prime Minister Bhutto. Not to mention all the billions of women all over the world. Are you saying that women don't deserve representation in the 21st Century? The dinosaurs were more evolved than you. Ireland is war torn & had a Female Prime Minister. Pakistan also. Hey Mike...news flash...It's 2008. Way beyond time for a Female President Of The United States. Please go back to 1192 AD where you & your ilk belong. Take Rush Limbaugh & Company with you.
Posted by: teresa | Mar 4, 2008 3:41:39 PM
I absoluetly Love Gloria Steinem if it was not for her women today probably would still be dependent upon men for their basic needs. She was intrumental in openeing the doors to education, jobs, promotions and the right to choose their vocation. She is a feminist and proud of it. I take my hat off to her. Her statement regarding MCcain was not demeaning to his military career. She made a statement that because he was a war hero does not automatically make him a leader. He served his country as many had before and will after him. Because she spoke at a rally for Clinton also doesn't mean Clinton is a feminist nor does it mean because Thatcher never stated one way or another if she was or wasn't is mute. Maybe the idiots in this country will get it right this time and elect a person who has the countries interest at heart Mike, and if they choose Hillary I believe we will be better off for it.
Posted by: Adrian | Mar 4, 2008 3:40:32 PM
i'm a male and i've wrestled with supporting hillary or obama.
but if i thought for one second that hillary is a feminist of the likes of gloria steinem or others espousing the simplistic notions that men=bad, women=good, an apparent hero to some of these bloggers, i would not dream of voting for her.
if you really equate prejudism against blacks and other minorities with gender-based discrimination, then there is little we have in common.
if you really believe it has been better for african americans, subjected to every avenue of injustice, from lynchings to virtually permanent social and economic injustices, with discrimination against women, then you are so self-deluded, so ignorant of history or basic logical reasoning, that i doubt any male or reasonable thinking female could help you.
while you're conteplating your smug, arrogant ideological beliefs (most likely you've never met real adversity in your pampered lives), remember that bill and hillary have been champions of black rights in the south for many years.
Posted by: jarod | Mar 4, 2008 3:37:29 PM
I honestly do not believe the USA is ready for a woman president.When men and women can work together,when the law is designed to treat them equally,when a woman can run on proposed policies ,not surround herself with feminists and not make biased speeches supporting people who are over supported already then perhaps the time will have come.There is no way you could compare her with Thatcher who learned all her politics the hard way
and was not a feminist.Neither should being black help or hinder but this american election appears to consist of nothing other than gender or race insults by ill informed idiots.
Posted by: mike savell | Mar 4, 2008 2:17:49 PM
I'm no fan of either McCain or Steinem. I am a 49 year old transsexual woman. Steinem never did anything for women or for women's progress. Don't forget that Steinem is a transphobe who has made many ugly comments about transsexual people especially transwomen.
Posted by: Colleen Murphy | Mar 4, 2008 1:31:10 PM
Horray! at least someone said it. Unless this country has gone into a deep sleep, I agree the Republicans are on their way out. I'll take Hillary or Obammmmma. With the price of gas, oil, food, lack of health care, dead and wounded soldiers due to Iraq and the promises Bush made and only kept to his oil buddies and elite ask yourself are we better off now or 7 and a half years ago. Unless you want to listen to some more promises which I am sure some will be made, goodbye and good riddance to the Republicans. Spoken by a true Independant.
Posted by: Adrian | Mar 4, 2008 1:13:23 PM
Thank you Pat, well said, well said. There will be a big shift in "momentum" around 8pm this evening. We've been waiting a lifetime for this moment and more to come. It's our turn.
Posted by: teresa | Mar 4, 2008 12:10:07 PM
Whether the Democrats jump on the gender issue or not, well I don't think you have to worry about that. After 7 long years of the Bush Administration, I don't believe this country would elect another Republican for the next 8 years. I think most Americans have had enough and if you like McCains statement we should stay in Iraq, if we have to, then hey why don't you join up! But you have a right to your opinion which I respect!
Posted by: Pat | Mar 4, 2008 12:08:22 PM
I think this is great ... Gloria Steinem exemplifies the divisiveness of the Clinton campaign ... now let's chop the electorate by gender ... Bill already took out the race card. I can only hope that the DEM hierarchy gets into this soon.
Posted by: Lou | Mar 4, 2008 11:49:06 AM
It sickens me that women in this country forget the reason they are ALLOWED to enter into professional careers was largely due to women like Gloria. If any of you women happen to remember back in the fifties and sixties is very difficult for women to be excepted even into college for most professions, she helped open those doors some of us take for granted. She did not defame or take away McCains military service she made a statement of comparison which is and should be her right. Now our current President claims fame to serving when he felt like it or as the story goes. Your offensive remarks towards Hilliary just goes to show that there is a division between women and men and women are still not equal in some of your eyes. For all of you who think that your the only ones that served your country some of our parents served in three wars for this country which gives me the right to speak my piece. I hope Hillary gets the nomination, after all men have run this country from its inception and look at where we are today. Oh, and before you start your labelling save your breath, yes I am a proud feminist with an opinion which you may not agree with but a right to speak without the name calling.
Posted by: Pat | Mar 4, 2008 10:36:07 AM
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