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Clinton Surrogate Steinem Attacks McCain's War Record
March 02, 2008 8:39 PM
The New York Observer reports that in Austin, Texas, over the weekend, feminist icon Gloria Steinem belittled Sen. John McCain's five-and-a-half years as a POW and said the media would treat that war record differently if it were a woman veteran's record.
"Suppose John McCain had been Joan McCain and Joan McCain had got captured, shot down and been a POW for eight years?" Steinem asked, suggesting the media would ask "'What did you do wrong to get captured? What terrible things did you do while you were there as a captive for eight years?" ...
Referring to his time in captivity, Steinem said, with bewilderment, "I mean, hello? This is supposed to be a qualification to be president? I don’t think so."
- jpt
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I'm sure Ms. Steinem & all women thank you endlessly for your backhanded compliment. Thanks bunches. The truth is that Americans are sick of politicians not speaking their minds & polling before they open their mouths. How "hypocritial" is that? This Country was forged on the "dangerous" words of Thomas Jefferson & the Founders of this Country. Rock on Hillary & Gloria!
Posted by: teresa | Mar 4, 2008 9:03:51 AM
When we, as a nation, become enthralled with this sort of unproductive banter, we all lose. Gloria Steinem has pushed open a lot of the doors that some women take for granted that they are now able walk through today. With that respect having been paid, she of all people should know not to speak on topics she is not intimately familiar with. Her words were caustic and will undoubtedly cause more consternation for the Clinton campaign, haiving to control the spill, than it would ever hurt the McCain camp. It is truly an unfortunate thing that people of a public stature so often choose to disregard the respect and responsibility that should accompany free speech. It is because of people like McCain, that Gloria is even able to share her thoughtless remarks. It is hypocrisy that flows in arguments like we're having here. When you spend your entire existence becoming a driving force in the promotion of a right, you must understand the power of ignorant remarks...and the stain that those remarks leave on the legacy of our Nation. Patriotism is not about waving the flag, it is about carrying it, and although I will not vote for him as president, I take my hat off to him as a soldier.
Posted by: Matt | Mar 4, 2008 8:47:47 AM
Steinem is a repulsive, narrow-minded dolt. And don't try to compare Kerry to McCain. Kerry is a phony opportunist and wasn't in Vietnam long enough to even qualify for R&R. Any nation that degrades the accomplishments and suffering of its tortured heroes can only accrue contempt and disgust.
Posted by: rplat | Mar 4, 2008 7:09:47 AM
I SEE ALL THE MISOGYNISTS ARE COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK. Do all you women haters work for the misoginy boy's club? msnbc? Fine to disagree with a remark, but oh the nasty women hating rhetoric here. Hillary is right. She is surely being maligned for having the audacity to run for President, although, her record is far superior and impressive than obamas. Check out the parody's on SNL. There is great truth in the humor, and it is a sad truth. A truth evidenced here by all these women hating remarks. Go Hillary! BTW, she will win Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania, and then she will clinch the nomination. What a brave women to put up with all this misoginistic nonsense for a lifetime.
Posted by: teresa | Mar 4, 2008 6:33:35 AM
OK, maybe Gloria is right. Maybe spending 5 years in a prison camp in North Viet Nam, being tortured unbelievably so, is overrated, not that big of a deal. I have a possible solution to this ordeal. Let's send Gloria over to that same prison camp, let her experience all the same activities and all the injuries that John had, and in five years, she can come report back to us what it was like.
Posted by: Richard Hinrichsen | Mar 4, 2008 4:24:45 AM
Women are WAY OVER represented in my home. I actually welcome that population.
Posted by: swp | Mar 4, 2008 12:30:52 AM
Who cares. Look at the source of these tirades. I am sure that these comments will only make us look in disdain at Mccain's long service to this country including half his professional life in the military. But I assume that doesn't matter as much to be commander and chief than being the wife of a former president. And I guess that being a prisoner of war for over five years doesn't show as much guts as taking the embarressment in front of the country by the media over your husband's shennanigans.
If Hillary served a day or even an hour in the military I would have looked at that as a point of pride. You don't need to be in a prisoner of war camp to contribute to be a hero in our armed forces. What is does prove though is that McCain is one tough hombre.
Posted by: Craig Berger | Mar 4, 2008 12:30:00 AM
Gloria Steinem needs to check her US history facts. Some of America's greatest presidents, George Washington, Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, and JFK were "trained to kill". She insults our fighting men and women who have given everything for her right to say these things. And besides, serving in the military and being a POW is certainly a hell of a lot more experience than being First Lady. Whatever, and Ms. Steinem, true equality is when people are defined by their character, not their sex. Sen. McCain has shown himself through his selfless service to our nation to be a person of greater character than you could ever be.
Posted by: MR | Mar 4, 2008 12:21:42 AM
On that note, the contention that African Americans have it easier than women do in government is discredited by these, current undeniable numbers:
State Governors
Female: 8
African American: 1
Members of Congress
Female: 74
African American: 42
Senators
Female: 16
African American: 1 (Obama)
Supreme Court Justices
Female: 1
African American: 1
__________________________________
You seem to forget that women are over 50% of the American population. Women are the most underrepresented group in the government.
Posted by: Jill | Mar 4, 2008 12:17:31 AM
Everybody is mad at Steinem, but nobody cared when the Republicans Swift Boated Kerry or when they called Max Cleeland, a paraplegic veteran, unpatriotic for disagreeing with Dubya.
Posted by: Karen | Mar 3, 2008 11:57:57 PM
Jorge- I apologize. We seem to agree on this. I was responding to the wrong e-mail. My apologies.
Posted by: swp | Mar 3, 2008 11:53:44 PM
Jorge- You are absolutley insane. When McCain was plucked from the rice paddy after being shot down, the locals wanted to kill him. He was saved by the soldiers who were waiting to torture him for information. He remained in the Hilton, unassisted for several days/weeks. His cellmates knew he was going to die. His arm was severely damaged, as were most of his bones. He went down to a weight that would kill your fat "cheeto-eating ass". The North Vietnamese didn't care about his condition. He should have died. He was the enemy. When the enemy discovered his father was a high ranking officer in the United States military, negotiations began. Don't give me this crap any more.
Posted by: swp | Mar 3, 2008 11:49:37 PM
When John McCain's captors found out that he was the son of a 4-star Navy admiral, they offered to release him. McCain refused to take the offer because he knew that it was part of propaganda stunt. He refused knowing that this would result in even more torture.
If this is not an example of selfless sacrifice and of devotion to public service then I do not what is.
Certainly this level of sacrifice is alien to both clinton and steineim.
Posted by: Jorge | Mar 3, 2008 11:03:34 PM
no one ever said it did... until the playboy bunny brought it up.
Posted by: swp | Mar 3, 2008 10:04:09 PM
All she said is that being a POW doesn't automatically qualify McCain to be President. It's true. Although it does help explain why he's a little off his rocker.
Posted by: bryanD | Mar 3, 2008 9:59:36 PM
a cincinnati talk-show host gets raked over the coals for an entire week for having the gaul to speak Obama's full given name. Gloria Steinem insults a war hero's record. Someone who was tortured for years in the Hanoi Hilton, and I struggled to find the story, let alone, anyone calling for an apology. Hey Gloria! Give Jane Fonda a call. I think she knows where there are two seats on an Al-Queada anti-aircraft gun
Posted by: swp | Mar 3, 2008 9:45:47 PM
Gloria Should go back into the hole she lives in
Posted by: JC | Mar 3, 2008 8:51:14 PM
Who does Gloria think she is!!! I mean can't we leave these topics alone it is a disgrace to question John McCain at all. He is a hero and so are all of our soldiers over seas. These are the typical racist comments that prove this country has a problem with racism. Proves to me that this country is not ready for a women or a black president. Lets grow up shall we.
Posted by: Christina | Mar 3, 2008 8:48:47 PM
If all Steinem said was (1) that being a POW is not a qualification for being president - which it obviously isn't! - and (2) that she is glad Hillary was not trained to kill - which is a rather innocuous statement - what's the problem? Military and police personnel are the only government servants trained to kill; presidents aren't supposed to do that kind of work. Get a grip, people. I'm truly sorry John McCain had the experience of being a POW, but if all of you think that makes him uniquely qualified to be president, then he has been more than repaid for his time.
Posted by: Kyra | Mar 3, 2008 7:37:05 PM
What ms steinem said shouldn't suprise people. She co-founded Ms magazine with jane fonda. Back in the 1960s when she was 36 jane fonda aimed an anti aircraft gun gun at American Navy aircraft manned by American service men half her age. jane fonda also broadcast her admiration for the commie Vietnamese over Hanoi radio. While the cameras rolled jane fonda told an American POW to appologize for killing women and children. jane certainly didn't choose to stay with the Vietnamese she admires so much. She came back to the USA to start a business with gloria steinem. and to be admired and make movies for American idiots.
Posted by: MG | Mar 3, 2008 7:36:23 PM
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