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Congress's One Muslim Member Says Clinton Camp Taking Advantage of Obama Smear

March 05, 2008 4:11 PM

In an interview with the Huffington Post's Sam Stein, Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., the first Muslim ever elected to Congress, says the Clinton campaign is "opportunistically trying to reap the benefit" of the smear campaign that Obama, whom Ellison supports, is a Muslim Manchurian candidate.

"People are going to throw some stuff on the wall and see what sticks and at this point the Clinton camp is trying to do whatever it can to be successful," Ellison says. "And if that means benefiting from political bigotry, I don't think they will try to put a stop to it."

Ellison was reacting in part to Hillary Clinton telling 60 minutes that Obama isn't a Muslim "as far as I know."

"I think that Barack Obama' s Democratic opponents will say and do anything to try and win," Ellison says.

- jpt

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For Clinton to disavow herself from those assertions is disingenuous at best.
For those that act like this is not a race issue more a religion issue must live under a rock. There's tremendous Anti-Muslim sentiment in this country right now. Anything associated with Islam is automatically assumed extremist. Then throw in the fact that Barack is of color with the middle name Hussein. Please those tactics fall right into the minds of the ill-informed and bigots.

60 Minutes showed a small segment of individuals that truly believed the Obama rumors (i.e. being Muslim, doesn't know the national anthem, etc.). Ignorance still permeates this culture.

The mere fact that Obama is a thorn in Clinton's side shows, it never was and never will be a mandate that she be the Democratic nominee. Even Clinton's speech is divisive, us Democrats, those Republicans. At the end of the freaking day we're all Americans. She's sold a lot of people of on her pipe dream and people have definitely inhaled.

Posted by: RAC1976 | Mar 6, 2008 2:44:14 PM

It is true that Obama is not a Muslim. It is also true that he is a member of a church where the main pastor supports and has honored Farrakhan, where the same pastor has talked about whites in very unfavorable terms, and is the same pastor who Obama BANNED from his campaign announcement speech due to the controversy he would bring. If Hillary belonged to a church or organization where the leader honored someone who is outspoken on the other side or who is as controversial as the pastor of Obama's church is she would be forced to leave that church or organization. That is where there should be a focus.

Posted by: Eric | Mar 6, 2008 12:25:23 PM

He Obama....YIKES...Muslims have been killing Americans since 1980.Bush is 1st one to do anything about it...Have a nice day!

Posted by: Satan | Mar 6, 2008 6:44:20 AM

I've been seeing this neo-nazi stuff too. I wonder why they've been so successful in spreading it. doesn't seem like the media wants to expose them are just letting them possibly hijack the election - like that guy on 60 Minutes actually believed that stuff until Steve Kroft told him it wasn't true. I bet there's a whole bunch of people just like that...

Posted by: freedom | Mar 6, 2008 3:35:33 AM

Obama is taking advantage of it, he needs to keep bringing it up to show he is suffering.

The pity vote, the sympathy vote.

Other wise he would of dropped it.

A sane, well adjusted Adult, would of let it roll off.

Posted by: seah | Mar 6, 2008 1:15:48 AM

B O's followers have used the race card so many times in this campaign...I didn't notice it til North Carolina when, of a sudden, Bill Clinton, til then known as "The First Black President" uttered a truth.... that Martin Luther King could not have accomplished his wonderful dream without the actions of President Johnson...

He was slammed for having spouted a racist slur. Obama encouraged this intentional misinterpretation... and blew it up into a BIG ISSUE.

But the real bigots in this campaign are those who turned up the Black Joker... reverse racism... and that is NOt either Bill nor Hillary Clinton!

The bloggers who slung the most slime..were not associated with Hillary Clinton.

The whiner who wins the whiner's whistle
is NOT Hillary Clinton.

He who has been the most devious.... is Not Hillary Clinton.

IT WOULD BE A FOOLISH MOVE ON THE PART OF HILLARY TO PARTNER WITH OBAMA.
SHE WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITH SPIDERMAN AS HER VP; after all, he could mesmerize the populace just as well as B O, and re-direct air traffic and off-topic posts as needed.

All joking aside, Hillary is definitely the best person for the job... and it IS a job... of President..... and she will prove to be a brilliant and dedicated servant for our country.

We NEED a leader who's feisty and loyal and sharp. And even Obama admitted once that she's nice enough.

So....

Give 'em Hell, Hillary

Posted by: QUESTIONER | Mar 6, 2008 1:11:39 AM

Smooth talk did not win the day. Hard work dealing with the issues and asking the tough questions about real answers to the problems of or country won. Anyone who shows me that gets my vote!!!

Posted by: Jack-cass | Mar 6, 2008 12:41:43 AM

OBAMA-YIKES: Michelle O's post was good, although it's pretty hard to separate the Clinton and Obama positions, and there were some pretty major holes in some of the arguments, starting with #1 (Are Arkansas schools the national model?) It was also plagiarized - (David Speakman used it on 2/12/08; Taylor Marsh used it on 2/29/08; and various others have used it since then.) It doesn't seem that tough to cite a source.

Posted by: Mara | Mar 5, 2008 10:50:29 PM


ANY NEGATIVE PERSONAL ATTACK ON SENATOR OBAMA IS ALL BLAME TO SENATOR CLINTON !!

SO PEOPLE WILL SYMPATHIZED WITH THE SENATOR OBAMA AND THEY WILL HAVE A PITTY PARTY !!!

FOR ALL YOU KNOW THEY ARE JUST CREATING THIS AS JUST PART OF THE OBAMA CAMP POLITICAL STRATEGY - IT'S POLITICAL TATICS -IT'S PART OF THE GAME.

NOW A DAY VOTERS ARE MUCH WISER - VOTERS ARE NOT BORN YESTERDAY !!

STOP FANTASYING FOCUS ON THE ISSUE AND PRESENT IT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT IS YOU PLAN.

Posted by: Sam Lim | Mar 5, 2008 10:11:40 PM

Oops: 'twas Kroft, not Russert, who interrogated Clinton. Guys in ties look alike to me.

Posted by: @T | Mar 5, 2008 10:01:06 PM

If Mr. Obama wanted a bump-free ride, maybe he should'da stuck with "Barry", huh?

I'm a John Edwards supporter, who hopes he will become the Democratic nominee in Denver, instead of either face of Hillobama. In other words, I'm no Clinton partisan.

Just the same, I think Clinton's being bullied on this subject -- and that the bullying DOES seem to have a certain ganging-up character one associates with, uh, males on females.

I have next to no interest in whether Obama could conceivably in some way technically -- perhaps because of something his father or stepfather could have done in Obama's childhood --be called "Muslim". Being Muslim is not a crime in the U.S., after all.

In terms of religion, Obama says he's a "Christian", a claim and designation which other "Christians", according to my understanding, are bound to accept.

"As far as I know" -- which Clinton only said when prodded and prodded on a subject which shouldn't even BE a subject -- is PERFECTLY okay (it's a phrase which makes about as much sense, conversationally, as "in my opinion"), a reasonably qualifier in ANY situation).

I'M not so sure, either -- and maybe none of us should be (including MSNBC's Dan Abrams, who I think started this second-guessing of Clinton's reasonable response to a repeated semi-offensive question) -- that ANY prescribed certitude on the part of white talking heads can protect OBAMA -- as opposed to cornering Clinton -- from questions about "Muslim" matters related to his upbringing.

ESPECIALLY if Obama winds up on the Democratic ticket, I'm sure this will be red meat for the nativist right wing -- this matter is not going to go away. O's taken to saying he was born to a single mother, which isn't quite the case: in terms of U.S. law, he was born to a bigamously-MARRIED mother. There are Americans who don't care for multiple marriages -- but that's really, in fairness, not Hillary Clinton's fault.

"So far as I know", Obama's not a Muslim -- but I don't know what form of baptism, naming ceremony, or whatever Obama had as an infant. HE may not know. Obama's Muslim stepfather may not have involved him, in Indonesia, in any cultural/religious activities, but that's as. far. as. I. -- or you, or whoever -- know.

And: SO. WHAT??

In any case, it's not CLINTON's fault that she -- not Obama, the person you'd THINK Tim Russert would have leaned on, if he's so all-fired interested in nailing down all the corners of Obama's non-"Muslim" status -- was put on the spot on this subject.

Clinton herself, way back when, did some work for the Black Panthers, among whose membership were many with "Muslim" connections.

And: SO. WHAT??

Posted by: @T | Mar 5, 2008 9:39:29 PM

This is a sad manuever, especially if it is coming from an Obama surrogate, although I doubt that Obama sanctioned this positioning. I will agree that the right wing, particularly those that are vile Hillary bashers, are equally quick to attempt to brand the competitor negatively, by goofy tactics such as using his middle name, but I do not for one second believe that Hillary's campaign is doing such itself. No way, no how. She is tough, but there are certain lines that she will not cross, and she has always been pro-Muslim as well as pro-Israel, since we should all get it out on the table. I don't know if others have short memories, but as I recall, the U.S. government, under Clinton saved the Muslims in the Bosnian war from genocide. Hillary Clinton does the right thing, always has, always will.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 5, 2008 8:55:07 PM

Clinton camp will do or say anything to win! I remember when everyone wanted George Bush because he was one of them "a guy they could drink a beer with" and now look what we have a bad war, a bad ecomomy, a bad reputation in the world and a country getting worst not better! Now we want White water, Monica, lost Democratic congress, Vince Foster, I can't think of anything positive the Clintons bring back to the white house.

Posted by: Teryy | Mar 5, 2008 8:48:39 PM

Dog Soldier: I don't whine. Hillary was a privileged child, went to a privileged Ivy League school and spent the bulk of her life as a corporate attorney making a six-figure salary. She did sit on the Walmart Board, a company with one of the worst healthcare records in the US but "she can't remember if she ever discussed it with them". We should go with the voter's decisions. But they deserve the truth. Hillary Clinton has claimed for the past year that she has 35 years of experience. That dog won't hunt. I think a lot of people in West Virginia and eastern PA are going to be surprized to learn that for most of her adult life, she made more in a year than they make in ten.

Posted by: Mara | Mar 5, 2008 8:47:26 PM

Wow. Land of the free and home of the brave.

Mr. Obama is a Christian. But, in theory, in America, people can worship according to any religion - and should not be considered a 'terrorist' because they observe Islam.

Mr. Obama has now weathered the onslaught of the 'kitchen sink' and will weather whatever else may come his way - all in order to try to change the country - for the better. That's called - brave.

I wonder how old Mr. Obama was when he learned to effectively deal with - arses.

Jealousy, envy, to date - too good of a role model? How sad.

Posted by: redcat | Mar 5, 2008 8:43:03 PM

"Ellison is also active on a national level in advocacy for Muslims in the United States"


So this is the kind of person who would be in an Obama administration? Would he be Secretary of State?

Posted by: chasseur | Mar 5, 2008 8:35:32 PM

I keep asking the same thing over and over why does Hillary have to defend if Obama is a Muslim or not?

Can Obama not answer that question for his self if the press is so interested in finding out? The media will have to prove their case if they feel there are questions about Obama's religion that needs to be answered.

Here we have this other idiot in congress that is a Muslim why did he not just say that Obama is not a Muslim and defend Obama on that rather then trying to make something stick on Hillary.

I think he would be in a better position to know what religion Obama is or is not since he knows that Hillary was trying to smear Obama with her answer.

Posted by: SJ | Mar 5, 2008 7:49:18 PM

Mara Clinton sat on the Wal Mart environmental board. You can whine all you want but the Folks in Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island say she does understand their needs. I don't argue with the voters choice. Perhaps you might want to skip the actual voter choice in PA and have them do as you order. Or do you just have problems when voter chose someone other than prince charming?

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 5, 2008 7:37:13 PM

One bad outing for Sen. Obama and he's crumbling. He calls Lorne Michaels of SNL to complain; he gets the only Muslim member of Congress to cry bigotry; and get this he blames Hillary's criticisms and the media for his losses. Ha, ha... anything less than the media completely fawning over him is a raw deal for Sen. Obama!

Posted by: hopesprings52 | Mar 5, 2008 7:36:53 PM

Affirmative Action: I'm white, I'm an independent voter and I am a rabid patriot, and I completely disagree with your statement on Michelle Obama. I came of age in an America when you could still get ahead, you could get a college education even if you came from poor parents, where you could hope that your kids would inherit a better country and better chances than you had. That America is gone. That's not negativity - that's simple truth. And I'm not saying that because I'm a whiner, or because I got chances through affirmative action, or because I drink too much kool-aid. I'm saying that because America gave me a chance and I am grateful for it. I want to give back - and I believe that this country has the resources and the imagination and the drive and the heart and the courage to change.

Posted by: Mara | Mar 5, 2008 7:34:43 PM

The pictures of obamas trip to Kenya were already on the Internet and available to anyone, before The so called leak.

The picture appeared on a page depiction of natural culture of the area.
I am sure the people putting it up did so with pride. I am sure they had no idea mr. Obama would be so offended or ashamed to be associated with them or their history.

A grown up would of said, yes that was on my vacation, or Me on my trip to Africa.

Mr Obama is so much in to fault finding.
Blaming every one for things.

In his speeches, everything wrong in the world is the governments fault.

He has been in The US Senate 2 years, so It is his fault.

We all know Mr Obama, will admit no wrong, We all know mr Obama will not answer questions directly. We know mr Obama will do anything to win this election.

We wish mr Obama, would give details and answer questions directly.


Posted by: seah | Mar 5, 2008 7:31:20 PM

Mos forgive me for thinking we could have a sensible discussion. I would rather figure out how to win the White House when the democratic party has already given the republicans two free states, FL and MI. So we're already down two because the democratic party can't get their act together. I want FL and MI to count even if we have a do over with full primaries.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 5, 2008 7:28:00 PM

Nancy - That's just not correct. I saw the interview. Hillary, who attends a prayer circle with Obama, acted as if she was just not sure what Obama's faith was. It was a lie. The issue isn't whether Obama is a Christian, a Muslim or a Jew. The issue is whether the Clintons lie, when they need to, when they want to, or when they simply are moving their lips. The issue is this campaign - and whether Clinton is capable of running a tough, clear, honest campaign which is based on her own record and her own merits. The past week has clearly demonstrated that cannot. She has a very weak political record. No one has ever walked into the Junior Senate seat in New York wih no experience, Ever. She has proven (for 16 years) that she is an excellent corporate attorney - for a firm that handles Walmart and Monsanto. That's her record. And it doesn't have a thing to do with working class Americans, foreign policy or even politics. It has to do with hauling in $200K a year - unlike the vast majority of Americans. Hillary's experience is not on dusty roads in Texas or working the second shift ot with the Children's Defense League. It is in boardrooms with the wealthiest clients in the nation.

Posted by: Mara | Mar 5, 2008 7:22:06 PM

EVERYONE!!! LISTEN UP!!! I've discovered that HILLARY CLINTON IS MUSLIM!!! NO LIE!! SHE'S PLANNING TO WEAR A BURKA AT THE INAUGURATION!! WE CANNOT LET THIS HAPPEN TO AMERICA!!

REMEMBER... HILLARY CLINTON IS A MUSLIM!! FEAR HER!!!!!!!! SHE HATES AMERICA!!!!

Posted by: WASP MAN | Mar 5, 2008 7:07:41 PM


For the record I want to say that I do not think Obama is Muslim. And I don't at all think all Muslims are extremists.

I don't care who is what color or gender.

I want the most qualified, experienced, knowledgeable, intelligent candidate to govern our country, and that person, this time, is Hillary.

It is not an attack to say who would you want to answer the phone at 3am.

It is a question that makes people think.

Thinking about who is truly most qualified is a good thing.

The reason why Bush won twice is because people didn't think deeply enough about the real issues, qualifications, and reality.

It is not fair that Barack can try to criticize Hillary about Iraq, and she can't point out anything about him.

Posted by: Lauren | Mar 5, 2008 7:07:33 PM

Yes, KAS,

We all remember Ken Starr and the money that his investigation cost the American taxpayer.

Are you suggesting that we pay Ken Starr some more money to investigate Senator Obama?

We also remember the number of indictments Starr issued as a result of his investigations of the Clintons.

A number significantly lower than the cost.

Can you say 0?

Posted by: ken | Mar 5, 2008 7:06:33 PM

@Dogsoldier
Why would Obama and Clinton ever be on a ticket together after she says McCain would be better suited than he would, that he's an empty suit, mocking him, insinuating baseless wrongdoings, spreading rumors, etc. How could they ever possibly be on the same ticket, regardless who is in what position?

Posted by: mos | Mar 5, 2008 7:06:30 PM

Mos if Clinton has a red phone moment and Obama has his own red phone moment where else do you see the Clinton folks playing negative? I'm curious what you consider negative. Look, I don't hate Obama. I just think he's not ready for the big time just yet and if by some miracle Clinton gets the nod it is my hope she picks Obama as her VP choice. There was some hints in that direction from Clinton today.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 5, 2008 7:01:50 PM

Does no one remember Whitewater? TravelGate? Starr?

Posted by: KAS | Mar 5, 2008 6:54:28 PM

@Dogsoldier
Not whining, simply re-stating the facts instead of twisting them. Clinton lost a huge lead she had in both states and ended up with a small lead. In the middle, Obama managed to pull closer but due to Hillary's GOP tactics and scorched earth negativity, she pulled ahead for a small lead. The delegate count is barely changed. Those are the facts. Obama outspent but last-minute negativity helped Clinton pull ahead.

@everyone still calling Obama a muslim and using it as an insult:
You're the reason anyone is talking about this and you're transparent.

Posted by: mos | Mar 5, 2008 6:52:41 PM

Gorgori 08 thank you for clearing HILLARY of this charge. Now her brother leaves a lot to be desired. However, Bill Clinton isn't running this time around. You do know that I hope. And to be quite frank with you I do not know what my brother does in his circle of friends or whatever he chooses to call them. I have no say over his choice of mates or where he goes on any given day or even what he does. Not my business.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 5, 2008 6:44:53 PM


Barack has done everything you say Hillary had done:

He is a lawyer

He has whined and complained

He has evaded the truth and questions

He has used double standards

His campaign and supporters have used
false information

He has shown bad judgement having Rezko help him buy his house after it was well-known Rezko was under investigation for fraud

He has been hypocritical

The main difference is that Hillary is much more qualified, knowledgeable, and experienced.

She is the one who is most qualified to help our country at this time.

Now Barack is involved in national politics, and he can gain more experience to become even more qualified in the future.

I don not want another inexperienced president.

Posted by: Lauren | Mar 5, 2008 6:44:33 PM

This is not Obama talking ,you would think she could be asked more the once same as she did during the debate like her husband what is the difference between words>>>>> Like he asked, what is the meaning of IF>>>>>Makes you wonder if there are different laws in this country ones for us and one for the Clintons...

Posted by: honest | Mar 5, 2008 6:43:33 PM

February 23, 2001
Mrs. Clinton Says Her Brother’s Role Left Her ‘Saddened’
By RAYMOND HERNANDEZ
N.Y. TIMES

WASHINGTON, Feb. 22 –Forced to confront yet another scandal arising from the Clinton presidency, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton tried today to distance herself from the roles her husband and her brother played in a presidential pardon and a prison commutation granted to two wealthy felons.

Mrs. Clinton told reporters on Capitol Hill that she had been unaware until Monday night that her brother Hugh Rodham had been paid $400,000 to lobby on behalf of two men whose clemency applications were approved in the final hours of her husband’s administration.

Senator Clinton, a New York Democrat, described herself as “heartbroken” and “saddened” after learning of her brother’s role, adding that she would have put a stop to it had she known about it at the time. “I did not know that my brother was involved in any way in any of this,” she said.

“If I had known about this, we wouldn’t be standing here today,” she continued. “I’m very regretful that it occurred, that I didn’t know about it. I might have been able to prevent this from happening.”

She said 10 times that she was “disappointed” by her brother’s actions and the resulting uproar.

Mrs. Clinton declined to discuss her husband’s handling of the pardon and the prison commutation issued to her brother’s clients, saying tersely at one point: “You will have to ask him or his staff.”….

“It is certainly not how I would have preferred or planned to start my Senate career, and I regret deeply that there has been these kinds of matters occurring,” she continued. “All I can tell you is that I have gotten up every day and worked as hard as I can to be the best senator I can be, and that’s what I intend to do.”

Mrs. Clinton took more than 60 questions from reporters today, in an appearance that harked back to 1994 when, in the White House State Dining Room, she held a news conference to answer questions about her commodities trading in Arkansas and the Clintons’ investment in the Whitewater land deal.

While much of the news conference centered on her brother, Mrs. Clinton briefly discussed her own role. Asked if she had any discussions about pardons or commutations with Bruce Lindsey, the former deputy counsel in the Clinton White House, she said, “information was coming to me, information was passed on.” Later she elaborated, “People would hand me envelopes. I would just pass them on. You know, I would not have any reason to look into them.”

Mrs. Clinton’s appearance today came just hours after another potentially damaging disclosure: that her campaign treasurer, William Cunningham III, had helped obtain last- minute pardons for two felons.

Mr. Rodham was paid nearly $400,000 after the pardon of Almon Glenn Braswell, a businessman convicted of mail fraud and perjury in 1983, and the release from prison of Carlos Vignali, a cocaine trafficker.

Posted by: Gorgon '08 | Mar 5, 2008 6:38:30 PM

Mos is your point Obama couldn't finish? Or was it Obama outspent Hillary 3.5 to 1 and still couldn't finish? We don't care. Hillary won popular Texas vote and that's okay with us. What's so wrong with our side winning a few states? I didn't whine when you folks won eleven in a row. So why you whining?

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 5, 2008 6:35:30 PM

This is really childish. The Obama Campaign should focus on issues which will bring real change to the lives of millions of americans.

How low can one go to start complaining about such things as, "Senator Clinton did not defend me enough!" That is not Senator Clinton's role. The questions should not have been asked to Sen. Clinton in the first place. And since it was asked, she responded, but the question came right back again, as if the person asking the question knew something and wanted to see if Sen. Clinton also knew it. Well, she was right to say, "To the best of her knowledge", Sen. Obama was not a Muslim.

Another thing, being a muslim is not bad. There is a muslim in the US Congress. He is not a terrorist. There are many people of other religions who have committed worse crimes. Remember Hitler? He was not a muslim. Remember the Oklahoma City Bombing? They were not muslims. And then remember that there many muslims who are actually helping the US in the fight against terrorism, and they do that because they do not accept terrorism.

This discussion is a reflection of the gignorance of people who are supposedly "intelligent" people.

If Sen. Obama were a Muslim, then I would say, "Wow! There are muslims who are just like us, capable, intelligent, educated, inspiring, and great leaders. For Sen. Obama, though he may not be ready now to be president, is actually a great leader and we need to invest in him so that in future he can take the White House.

People, let's talk about substance here. All the problems we face in this country were not caused by a muslim. In fact, those who have dragged this country to where we are today are christians. I will not deny being a christian because of that.

Now, LET'S GO HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON. SHE IS OUR BEST CHANCE TODAY TO RECAPTURE THE WHITE HOUSE.

Posted by: Paix | Mar 5, 2008 6:32:16 PM

@s.b. And weeks before that, Hillary had an even larger lead, eventually even conceding the lead in Texas to Obama before squeaking out something of a win. Don't forget, she blew a 20 point lead.

She blew a double-digit lead.

Don't try and pretend it was Obama who somehow blew it all.

@Humm
You ignored what I wrote. Thank you for making it clear.

Posted by: mos | Mar 5, 2008 6:25:52 PM

You know Sarah, it's very difficult to campaign against Washington in a bid to be sent to Washington.

This paradox is coming home to roost. He doesnt have the experience and he plays the same games and is full of mindless rhetoric probably more so than your garden variety politician.

The lies and the refusal to answer questions and the crying racism every time a question is raised and the double speak with a veil of New Age Gospel is getting very tired.

And it's not enough.

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 5, 2008 6:22:02 PM

when it comes to Obama, press and people can't question if he is a meshia or God, what a joke.

Keith Ellison is jerk who happened to be from MN and he is smearing this issue to benefit obama, it is obama campaingn's dirty trick.

Hillary is presidential and obama is whinny boy!

Posted by: Uma, mpls, MN | Mar 5, 2008 6:19:25 PM

Sarah two weeks ago, Clinton has a 7 point lead in Ohio and a 1 point lead in Texas.

Please go to Real Clear Politics for verification.

After spending more money than any candidae in history on these two contests, 2.5 times as much as Clinton, Obama lost ground.

ABCnews/Washington post polls.

But you already know this don't you Sarah. Its just more subterfuge from the Obama campaign. We'll you know what people are beginning to see through it.

Change huh? Not a politician, going to change Washington? Yeah right! Try telling the truth we might believe you.

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 5, 2008 6:18:28 PM


Everyone knows that just because you say something doesn't make it true...

It's up to everyone to dig deeper:

Barack is not "Muslim"

Hillary has said this many times.

How many times and ways does she have to say it?

We need to clear through the paranoia, in order to better our country.

And there is paranoia on all sides.

The truth is much more boring.

But a welcome and necessary relief.

Posted by: Lauren | Mar 5, 2008 6:17:53 PM

Okay, Sarah, put your scandal one at a time ALONG with your sources on the board and let's have a go.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 5, 2008 6:14:53 PM

Sarah two weeks ago, Clinton has a 7 point lead in Ohio and a 1 point lead in Texas.

Please go to real clear politics for verification.

After spending more money than any candidae in history on these tow contests, Obama lost ground.

ABCnews/washington post polls.

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 5, 2008 6:14:47 PM

Should be Whitewater and not Watergate.

Posted by: Oldgaman | Mar 5, 2008 6:12:52 PM

All those trying to bring up Watergate, Travelgate, etc. are shooting blanks. Two federal special prosecutors, millions of dollars and six years of investigating those Republican charges and Bill is finally charged for a sexual escapade. It's all public record. Check for yourself.

Posted by: Oldgaman | Mar 5, 2008 6:10:12 PM

I hope when the negatives start on Clinton we won't hear anyone cry foul. There is an embarrassing abundance of riches of scandals in her past and present. That's even before you look at her husband's dealings. The Clinton's would be able to recognize the straight and narrow if it got up and hit them in the face.

By the way, remember that two weeks ago Clinton had an over 20 point lead in both Texas and Ohio. Obama caught her up there. That's all last night showed. She was able to stop him by using dirty politics. But as they say, "If you live in a glass house, don't throw stones." It will all come back to haunt her.

Posted by: Sarah | Mar 5, 2008 5:47:57 PM

Well the press keep biting every time his campagn puts out this garbage, so why should he stop?

Everyone should revolt and let the MSM know we've had enough of this kind of coverage and we'd like him to discuss real issues and not change the subject with made up accusations.

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 5, 2008 5:37:55 PM

John Compton

Start with Vince Foster...

Posted by: U2 | Mar 5, 2008 5:37:55 PM

Rep. Keith Ellison is a first term representative elected in 2006. (I live in the Twin Cities area in Minnesota. I know). How clever of him, smearing Sen. Clinton and get visibility for himself at the same time.

How many times can Sen. Clinton say "of course not", "I take him on the basis of what he says", "there isn't any reason to doubt that", "No! No! Why would I? There is nothing to base that on." (posted on Political Punch March 2, 2008, 11:03 pm)

There is no diagnostic test such as blood test, CT scan, or MRI to proof that Sen. Obama is a muslim, or a christian. Is there? And no MSM has reported such test result. Is there?

So, Sen. Clinton's answer "As far as I know" was totally logical and reasonable.

Let's "turn the page" and go on to the next chapter.

This is getting very uninteresting.

Posted by: eleanor | Mar 5, 2008 5:37:24 PM

And you know what, and not that I think it makes one whit of difference, according to Muslim law, the child of a muslim father is muslim.

So according to Muslims he's Muslim.

I'm so sick and tired of this double speak. The man is unable to be honest. If you don't want to belong to a black power chuch with associations to Farakhan then don't be. If you don't want your middle name to be Hussein then change it.

If you keep the middle name and you keep the church and its pastor, then its fair game!

It reminds me of two teachers who were both gay at a Catholic school. The one that was out and honest about it, the kids thought was cool and never bothered with. The one that hid it, got bothered for it all the time.


YOur father and grandfather and step father were Muslim. You're middle name is Hussein. Own it. Stop calling people racist and get on with a campaign and grow up.

People bug him about it because he denies it like its some kind of dirty laundry secret.

The man needs to grow up before he becomes President.

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 5, 2008 5:35:22 PM

Obama uses the race card every time he speaks, and you blame Clinton.

Come on?

Posted by: pat | Mar 5, 2008 5:27:16 PM

To Rialb58: What part of unequivocal do you not understand? Go watch the interview again. She said he was not a Muslim. Do you know something she doesn't? We don't know either. Furthermore, it doesn't matter to me what his religion is or if he has none. Keep playing the sympathy card on these two matters, and more people will begin to think maybe it does matter. What about the issues that a President needs to work on? Satisfying the religious right, the Baptists, the Catholics, or any other group is not at the top of my list. The economy, healthcare, education, security, and foreign relationships are.

How about NAFTA and Rezko?

Posted by: georgia | Mar 5, 2008 5:25:14 PM

No, noone can call him black, No one can ask him questions (that's racist too). No one can mention his black power church, that's racist. Noone can mention his middle name, the religion of his father or step father, that's racist.

No children can say he looks like cartoon characters, that's racist, eventhough adults have been saying that about GWB for years.

Lets see, his campaign gets to blame Clinton for Bhutto's death, that's ok. He gets to call her the senator from the punjab, that's ok. He gets to say she'd only drunk tea with world leaders, not sexist or racist just ok because the Obama Llama said it.

He gets to say he'd bomb Pakistan, our ally and not convene a single meeting in the senate on Afghanistan in 14 months. If you mention any of these things you are racist!@!!!!!

Basically, Obama gets to do anything he wants because he has a movement and you are Racist if you question it. Any time there are real answers needed to important questions he changes the subject to this innane garbage.

Frankly I'm sick and tired of it!!!

So are lots of people.

Quit your whining, stop accusing people of being racist who aren't because that's the only way you get votes, and start talking about issues and platforms.

Enough CRAP!

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 5, 2008 5:25:13 PM

Let it be known that 90% of the caucus states that Obama won, will go rebublican in the general election. It's like funny money, he can't buy anything with it. HRC has the real money (states that count).

Posted by: Latasha | Mar 5, 2008 5:16:57 PM

This guy thinks he can go up against the Republicans??? ahahahahahah

WoW, not this princess, no way. They'll eat him alive.

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 5, 2008 5:15:50 PM

@Mos, following is my interpretation for your answer to me, tony and s.b

Clinton's win is not a great deal but she should have been considerate with Obama and should not expect sympathy.

Too much Obama pampering

Posted by: Humm | Mar 5, 2008 5:15:07 PM

Oh...oh... he lost so here we go again pulling the race card. She said, " as far as she knows," which with the "NaftaGate" how do you really know? Obama said no such Canadian meeting happened and it is only after the information was leaked that we now know he was lying....oh wait he is saying he didn't know about it which almost seems worse. I wouldn't want to elect someone who didn't know what his White House staff was doing without his knowledge, especially making arrangements with other countries. On another note, this is still the same Obama who chooses to mislead people that he actually voted in the vote to go war when all he had was a speech. Oh wait, isn't that all he has now also, a speech? Oh wait, that Senator Patrick Deval's speech. So yes, when Hillary says, " as far as i know" I agree with her because in light of our enlightment about the Canadian situation, in light of the origin of his speeches and in light of his so called "vote against the war" Obama tends to mislead American voters....and there is still alot more to know .

Posted by: mona | Mar 5, 2008 5:12:40 PM

Lions and Tigers and Bears oh my!

And anyone who doesn't support me, or even questions me is racist.

Lions and Tigers and Bears oh my!

btw Clinton was up by 7% in Ohio and 1% in Texas two weeks ago. This huge lead in the polls Obama somehow over came is a figment of his deluded campaigns imagination.

He outspent her 2 and a half times to one and lost ground!

Lion's and Tigers and Bears oh MY!

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 5, 2008 5:12:09 PM

the only person who knows for sure that Obama is not Muslim is Obama himself. Why is Hillary supposed to take account for someone else's religion? If Obama says he is not, then she has to take his word for it, so "as far as I know" is perfectly appropriate. I am so SICK of the race card being thrown around so many times here. Obama and his supporters are accusing others of racism when none exists, but in effect, are being racist themselves. This is not the kind of presidency that we want, do you want to elect a president out of guilt? Obama will drive the country apart, he is already doing it with his negative tactics.

Posted by: me | Mar 5, 2008 5:10:33 PM

One odd and dangerous trend: 85%-95% of black people vote obama. why? Because his handling of issues which are related to the nation 's strength or American's life? NO! This is not the right direction. Think about the history. Most of the time, such thing ended up with disaster.

Posted by: why | Mar 5, 2008 5:09:22 PM

@Humm:

She won after losing a very large double-digit lead in both states. Don't act like this was some tremendous underdog win for the victims. She lost a huge lead and just barely squeaked out enough to come up with a handful of delegates, less than 10% of what she needs to catch up.

@tony "SHE DIDNT DENY IT STRONGLY ENOUGH FOR HIM. WHAT A JOKE. NEXT."
Does "reject and denounce" mean anything to you? Plus, denounce is a stronger word to begin with. Don't try and call out others for the exact same thing you favorite candidate is guilty of. It's extremely hypocritical.

@s.b. Talking about how this isn't to get sympathy...what has Clinton been doing since she started losing? Playing the victim, complaining about treatment, etc etc, all to gain sympathy and somehow paint herself as the underdog who is being mistreated. Very hypocritical AGAIN.

Posted by: mos | Mar 5, 2008 5:03:07 PM

How in the heck is that suppose to be twisted into a smear? I watched that interview, and she was totally above board. She was repeatedly questioned in the interview as though she was being asked for more information. She had already said she did not like such smears and disavowed such smear tactics. She has seen too much dumped on her image by smears. When she said "as far as I know", she was letting that line of questioning be finished.

What gets my dander up is that the pattern the Obama camp has been taking from the beginning is to blame the other side for damaging him racially or religiously. The Clintons did not play the race card; the Obama camp did it to ignite their black voters. Clinton did not call Obama a Muslim; Obama's image in Muslim dress came from his own previously published documentary and personal story. Is the Obama camp using such claims to get more sympathy votes? The more the public talks about this, the less attention they have to pay to the NAFTA double-talk and Rezko.

Posted by: georgia | Mar 5, 2008 4:59:02 PM

HuffingtonPost, hardly a non-biased source. They have been pro Obama. In anycase, "As far as I know." Means she doesn't really know. Neither do I. But you know what? I also don't care and neither does Hillary. You should all be mad at 60 Mins. for even asking the question. What, while promoting herself, Hillary is suppose to defend Obama? Hellooooo!

Posted by: irma | Mar 5, 2008 4:57:36 PM

All those who are blaming Clinton today were not able to make this judgement on or before Tuesday(3/4) when Clinton was talking of just winning Ohio. It appears that they got up from sleep and started blurting out anything against Clintons. Obama is responsible for his losses as his credential of judgement were on line beacuse of NAFTA Canada issue.

If the Clintons won yesterday, then it might be because
"The winds and waves are always on the side of the ablest navigators. " - Rise and Fall of Roman Empire

Posted by: Humm | Mar 5, 2008 4:57:01 PM

@tony:

Clinton has been the establishment candidate here since the beginning. Trying to make her look like the outsider is very disingenious.

And who ever said "to whine" was only associated with children and women? It's a very open word.

Posted by: mos | Mar 5, 2008 4:56:27 PM

All those who are blaming Clinton today were not able to make this judgement on or before Tuesday(3/4) when Clinton was talking of just winning Ohio. It appears that they got up from sleep and started blurting out anything against Clintons. Obama is responsible for his losses as his credential of judgement were on line beacuse of NAFTA Canada issue.

If the Clintons won yesterday, then it might be bacause
"The winds and waves are always on the side of the ablest navigators. " - Rise and Fall of Roman Empire

Posted by: Humm | Mar 5, 2008 4:55:28 PM

It's the Clinton way to equivocate and to parse words in the most calculating way possible. She knows he's not a Muslim and she could had been unequivocal in her response...but apparently opportunity always trumps doing the right thing when it comes to Mrs Clinton and this isn't the first instance of her doing this. I've been a big Clinton fan in the past but her true colors are coming to light and it's not pretty.

Posted by: Rialb58 | Mar 5, 2008 4:50:49 PM

Lions and tigers and Bears oh my!

You're not in Kansas any more princess. Suck it up and quit whining!

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 5, 2008 4:40:13 PM

Jake---

Why is it a "smear" to assert that someone is a muslim? The assertion is inaccurate, but why is it a smear. I'm an athiest, but if someone asserted that I was a muslim or a catholic or a mormon I would not call that a smear.

Expatfamily---

Why do you bring up the issue of racism in connection with this post? Must be a reflexive response, because it has nothing to do with this post. Asserting that Senator Clinton is racist is clearly a "smear" though.

Understand the difference?---being muslim is not bad, being racist is. Obama is not a muslim; Clinton is not a racist.

Now, can we talk about the issues?

Posted by: NJH | Mar 5, 2008 4:39:39 PM

God do you people bite every time the Obama camp goes fishing?

First the curious george thing, then the photo darkening scandal, now the muslim smear!!!!

Lions and tigers and bears oh my!

Enough of this garbage already! Its not American Idol its the POTUS. Report on real issues and real news, not rumours to get sympathy for a candidate that wants to change the subject!

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 5, 2008 4:37:49 PM

To New Yorker:

That's a pretty appalling statement. You disgust me.

-Proud Obama Supporter

Posted by: Tom | Mar 5, 2008 4:37:04 PM

Hillary would sell out her own mother to getthe nomination. This is why 52% of America will NEVER vote for her.

Posted by: Tom Mulhearn | Mar 5, 2008 4:35:28 PM

@todd: His father was not muslim, his grandfather was. Saying anyone, from any party, is the "worst politician ever" disqualifies anything else you have to say.