Political Punch

Don't you love how Bradley and Kerry and Daschle keep making suggestions about how people should run their campaigns? Losers all, and all for Obama, which is what we'll all be if he wins. Obama should be so lucky to be anyone's vice president with his meagre duplicitous record. Who does he think he is? Obviously as a godsend or even the Second Coming, a belief reflected by his supporters with their alarming, unreasonable zeal. If you read history then you know that this is the first sign of very big trouble if he's elected.

Tom Who?

Oh, yeah. That Democrat from another one of those electorally insignificant Red states.

The man has an attitude problem. Hillary Clinton should be pleased that the former (note that word, FORMER! Senate Majority leader is on the Obama wagon.

Daschile is again showed his near sighted view and jealousy. He attended president campaign and ended to one of the last ones. His jealousy prompted him to support Obama cause he though you Clintons took too many glory of Democratics. Bill had 2 terms and now Hillary will another 2 terms. Come on, your victory will belittle us too much so we need to form an ally - Ted Kennedy, John Kerry - to prevent you from becoming a president.

Let me point out: 1 This group of TK, JK, TD and Obama went to blame NAFTA for bad economy instead current White House. 2. Monster is a name calling. Ken Starr is still a good American citizen with different political view in GOP. To compare an action with an action from those of Republian is not a name calling. Obama openly and repeatedly compared McCain with Hillary for Iraq war vote. Should Obama be fired?

This tells us how low judgement ability Tom has and how negative TD, TK, TD and Obama are in the primary. If you looked at their opposition to Michigan and Florida revote or recount, you will able to see that they are really at their end of wisdom.

When I become president, I will make every American billionair. I can turn recession into unprecedented boom overnight. Every one will love each other like the othe half.

IT WON'T HAPPEN.

Obama did not vote for the war because he was in nowhere then.

Mr Daschel couldn't keep his senate seat as a leader, Mr. Kerry could not win an easy election. I doubt they have the vision to choose the right candidate.

For the sake of the coutry, I'll either stay at home or vote for Mccain if Obama becomes the nominee. Hillary is not the best candidate, but better than Mccain or Obama.

About specific proposals from Clinton. Who really thinks she will actually accomplish to the letter what she says she wants?? It just won't happen. She is of the promise but ya'll know I won't deliver school.

Yes, exactly, Daschle is right. If Obama fired his adviser Samantha for having called Clinton a Monster (I would have said a double-headed monster, if we count Bill), why doesn't Hillary fire Wolfson for his comment comparing Obama on Kenneth Star? After all, for Hillary, Kenneth Star is also a monster. Again, we see Obama keeping to his promised clean campaign, while Hillary wouldn't mind to set the Party on fire just to get the nomination. Obama 08

Mrs.Clinton is by far the best one for the job. We need to look closer into what Obama would do as President. He cannot give any specifics. People need to wake up to that fact and vote for Mrs.Clinton.

All Americans should really take their time deciding on who should be president of our country.

Obama really does have a lot of questions to answer. He can't keep saying that things are silly and boneheaded. Those aren't responses that the American people want to hear.

He is not being positive. He's being evasive.

Mrs. Clinton will do ANYTHING to win and I mean ANYTHING. Someone should ask
her if she becomes president will she and husband charge $200,000 a night to
stay in the Lincoln bedroom and will they sell information to the government of China. Why can't the you admit Obama
is the best person for the job not Clinton?

ditto

Yeah, well there's a long list of reasons to fire Axelrod. Tom Daschle will lose credibility if he joins the whole pretense of BO not doing "dirty politics". Pitty they think everyone is as dumb as they think, maybe they are projecting their intelligence (or lack of) on to the public. Or, maybe, just maybe, THEY LIE!

deb il, you are so right. but obama would never fire axelrod. as we all know, axelrod IS obama, he created him, like deval patrick, and he holds the strings. axelrod is, in my mind, an incredibly talented campaign manager. not that i like his candidate - i wouldn't vote for him if the choice were him vs. the dead reagan or nixon. but you have to give axelrod credit for finding a loophole in the dnc's idiotic delegate allocation scheme that allows his puppet to look like a winner. if obama were to fire axelrod, he'd be out in a week. i wonder who his puppet will be in the next election?

is goolsbee gone? daschle is just a bitter ex-politician who lost his seat.

Well said, Kent. That may be the 1st, rational comment I've read today without the obvious slant of a Clinton or Obama perspective. I agree wholeheartedly.

The fact that Clinton's going negative because she is behind is standard politics. That doesn't make her an evil person, it makes her a politician. The fact that Obama is refraining from going negative doesn't make him weak; restraint in the face of aggression is a lot more difficult because striking back often appears to work--in the short term (see Bush and Iraq as a prime example). Obama is trying to be the kind of leader this country needs, and so far, I think he's done well. Clinton should be critical of Obama because doing so will prepare him for the Republicans and it is important that voters understand the distinctions between the candidates. But using cheap Republican (redundant?) tactics will only help the Republicans because they'll get to see what works and what doesn't. What both Clinton and Obama need to do is compete for democratic voters by seeing who can come up with the best critiques of the Republican policies and John McCain. Democratic voters can then really decide who will be better at defeating McCain in the fall, since most democrats (even most rational people) would prefer either Obama or Clinton to McCain and four more years of Republican misrule.

This was just a smoke screen in order to avoid the issue of releasing tax returns. The Clintons must be scared to death about their financial connections.
Anyway, there will be some people to believe Hillary when she says "vote for me first, I will tell the truth later". Rather sad.

All I can say is, if someone didn't already understand why the Dem. establishment and elite hate the Clinton's, they know now. The people they employ are no better and no worse than they are.....

And let us be clear, she only won last Tues. because the voters felt SORRY for her. Here you have this first lady coming off looking like a loser. And here you had this lady complaining every other day about something, so yes, people felt sorry for her.

The voters of Texas, didn't feel to sorry for her though or else it would have been a total blow out. Unlike Ohio, Texas voters are smarter. But, I can't say Ohio are stupid people or else it would have been a major blow out there too. Anyway, this is just more Clinton Crap - Kennth Star of all people...

Wolfson is right.

Hypocritical comment #1001 from the Clinton campaign: comparing Obama to Kenneth Star??? Wow, I thought the comparisons to George Bush and Karl Rove were stupid, but this takes the cake! The more Howard Wolfson speaks, the less confidence I have in HRC. This is her most prominent spokesperson? Clearly, he represents her true sentiment. When Obama makes a legitimate request, by ALL standards, for the Clinton tax returns, their only retort is "Stop, bullying her. You're just like that mean right winger Kenneth Starr!" Just when you think Clinton's propensity to play the victim card can't get any worse, they lower the bar even further. Obama = Kenneth Starr, this one takes the cake!!

There is not big diference between Hillary Clinton o
Barack Obama, at the end the one become President
will be doing the same thing.

Daschle - now there's an agent of "change". He ranks right up there with Kennedy & Kerry.

This is why Daschle lost in his most vital race....he doesn't see the difference in the tow very different comments and contexts of the statements.

I saw Daschle on PBS ... he made no sense in his arguments for Obama ... all about hype. I think his statements on Wolfson is an attempt to cover up how serious Obama's "foreign policy advisor's" comments were about Clinton. Especially in view of the fact that she was talking to foreign press.

Sam? The Clintons took money from Rezko. So did their national co-chairman. You claim that Rezko made Obama's career. Back that up with some facts and some references.

According to the New York Times, in January Obama "brought in $28 million online, with 90 percent of those transactions coming from people who donated $100 or less, and 40 percent from donors who gave $25 or less..." That's not a man who belongs to a real estate developer. That's a candidate - llike him or not - who has a powerful grass-roots campaign.

Deb, from IL --
RE:Daschle isn't concerned about the BEST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE,

Please give me ONE qualification of Sen. Clinton where you think she is MORE qualified to be President, other than the fact that many of us would like to see a woman elected POTUS.

In ALL regards, Senator Obama is better, IMO. More Foreign Policy experience (Lugar-Obama Loose Nukes Act), co-authored the Corburn-Obama legislation which shines a brighter light on Washington through the FFAT Act (which HRC abhors -- she PREFERS closed door meetings, and thing done in secrecy), and co-authored the most extensive Ethics and Lobbyist Reforms since Watergate -- the Feingold-Obama legislation.

Incidentally, the little girl in the "It's 3:00AM and the red phone rings ad" at the end? She's now an Obama Precinct Captain. Hillary Rodham Clinton and John McCain are part of the PROBLEM in Washinton, not the solution.

Obama brings not a thing new to the table this has gone beyound repair so many people ticked and in November like history tells us we will lose the General . He can't win if he does not get the core dems. and at this point I see no way of that Happening and he is way to far to the left to get independent voters in the general all MCcain has to do is pick a VP that people like and we are history once again.

Hillary Clinton represents all that is wrong with the United States. She embodies "the arrogant American" that the rest of the world hates. Why are we actually considering allowing her to be our President?

HRC should denounce and decry and reject and renounce Wolfson.

Isn't Ken Star enemy No 1? He's the REAL monster.

I think Obama's followers have forgotten that it was Obama who called the Clinton's the past, liars, divisive, and untrustworty.

All Hillary has done in this campaign is to question Obama's experience, and his policy positions on issues, nothing personal.

Daschle is in no position to call for someone else firing. Wolfson was responding to a frustrated Obama camp trying to bring back the Ken Starr years who by the way spent $70m of taxpayer's money to persecute the Clintons. In the end, he came up empty.

Will Obama's camp be able to withstand a $1m investigation of his relationship with Tony Rezko? He won't survive it. Rezko created Obama political life. No denying that.

Obama camp trying to revive those years shows that they're really frustrated. Their candidate can only make empty "plagiarized" speeches in public while his advisers are cutting deals behind the scene of what will really happen if he were to be elected president. Examples, NAFTA and the Canadian government, Ending Iraq's war, etc.

By Daschle's logic then, Axelrod should have had to resign a long time ago when he insinuated that Hillary Clinton was responsible for Prime Minister Bhutto's death. How many times has he said things that weren't particularly civil? Come on, this is politics and this back and forth, he said it first, she did it too, stuff can go on forever. My biggest problem with the Samantha Powers thing was her going on with the BBC and saying something different that what her candidate is saying to the American public, just like the Nafta behind the scenes fiasco. And by the way, Canada came out yesterday and said point blank the Clinton campaign DID NOT contact anyone. I wonder if another 'behind the scenes advisor' in the Obama camp threw that one out after they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. Sounds a lot like kindergarten.

As far as Daschle goes, he is a loser, he lost his last election so I don't know that I would take his advice on anything. He is another one who jumped on the PC bandwagon with Kerry, Leahy, and Kennedy when it started to look like Obama was a shoo in. What is it anyway with all of these old Washington politicians supporting Obama, who is supposed to be against that type of thing? Daschle isn't concerned about the BEST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE, he just wants to be associated with what he thinks is a history making event.

With all due respect Mr. Tom Daschle, I have to tell him that he is nothing but a looser! All these former politicians who lost their place in American politics as much as their luster are now trying hard to recycle themselves by climbing on Barak Obama's back with the hope of resurrection? Mr. Daschle is no asset to Mr. Obama but a clear labiality!

I believe people are free to vote for whomever they want. Don't have to broadcast it.
In caucuses, you can declare who you voting for, in primaries people exercise their conscience in private.

So, Harrison, your intention to vote for Obama in Pennsylvania is not a threat. That is your right. I hope you remember one thing, Obama has only won in the Red States where Dems have no prayer of winning in November.

Oh, really. Daschle is going to try to fix this faux pas by calling Ken Starr a Monster. Good luck with that.

Obama is a smooth, Rezco style politician who operates as a tele - evangelist.

Love the fact that Hillary fans are taking after their leader in tearing down Daschle rather than examining his arguments. It's the number one rule of the campaign, I think: never let integrity or honesty keep you for trying to send a body-blow to the speaker. Yes, Hillary has taught her minions well.

I agree with him. If Obama's campaign or if the man himself were anything like Starr, he would have slammed Clinton a long time ago. Seriously, everytime we wake up, there would be something different or new that they have hit her one. And we all know there is plenty of dirt for them to get dirty on. I case in the moment of excitement - this stupid guy got to over zealous.

Hillary won in Ohio and Texas--though Texas wasn't a blow out and Obama will eventually come out with more delegates--but in winning she pushing her negative ratings beyond 50%. Do you Hillary fans REALLY think that many folks are going to hold their noses and vote for her in November if she continues on this mean-spritied campaign tactic?
Not only that, but in trying to tear Obama down she is feeding all the necessary information into the Republican play book, because there is no way, based on what she is doing now, that John McCain can't use, almost word for word, the slings she is using against Obama. Not only is she shrill and nasty, but her efforts, while winning short term, will work against her in a general election. But, hey, I'm sure the Clintons think they can kneecap McCain, too. Wonder how that will look, the shrill, angry, teary, offended, sad, Hillary trying to tear down a national hero and convince the world that she has more of everything that McCain has. Good luck with that one.

hey twinmom48...just to let you in on a secret...Texas divides their primary into an election and a caucus. The delegates are divided into 2/3 for the election and 1/3 for the caucus. Clinton has a lead of 3 delegates from the election while the caucus delegate numbers are still outstanding. With most caucus delegates awarded to districts that vote traditionally democratic (Austin, Houston, Dallas) Obama's large victories in those areas are evidence of his impending caucus trouncing that Hillary's camp is about to find out about. In a nutshell...Hillary didn't win Texas unless she wins a majority of the delegates that the state ultimately awards.

Age has nothing to do with reality. Hillary Clinton and her husband rank right up there with the most machiavellian of all politicians. They will say do anything to win, and I don't put kneecaps beyond their reach. Hillary Clinton couldn't stay in the ring with Obama when she was running a relatively fair and ethical campaign (for her) so she is back in the strategy she knows too well. Foolish voters who think this 'strength' is admirable--her negatives are going through the roof. Do you really think this wins of hers, won by such nasty and divisive tactics, are not being seen for what they are by a lot of folks? What she is doing--single-handedly--is putting a Demo in the WH is jeopardy, but she doesn't give a fig for that because the ONLY thing Hillary and Bill Clinton care about is grabbing as much power as they can. They have decided this is the way to go and by golly they will make it happen no matter what it takes.
I know enough about history to know bad history when I see it being made in front me me.

Only a disgusting monster would refer to anyone outside of Karl Rove or Ken Starr as "Karl Rove" and "Ken Starr"....Wolfson and Hil-liar-y need to stop throwing those stones inside their huge, glass houses. Thank you Sen. Daschle for calling them on it.

Tony

Who is acting like Ken Starr?

The Hillary has become what attacked her.
What we all hated.
...and she is standing in the biggest glass house we have on these issues her campaign pushed for the past few weeks...
the 3am ad - McCain would kill her on that ad.

ethics - and this is the real killer... I will say it over and over "LISTS" ...she has lists of issues that we have ignored for years and now all the unanswered questions will come rolling down the ally at the whole party.

Amen to Daschle. The one good thing about the past week is that we've been able to watch Hillary be Hillary. And it isn't pretty (and I'm not talking about hairdos). That "honoring Obama night at the debates" gave me the willies.

2009: I'm old. Old enough to have been in SC when Rove went after McCain. But Rove has a true moral compass compared to the axis of slime running the Clinton campaign. Your logic seems to imply that political campaigns are all rough and slimy - and take the measure of a candidate. So does that mean McCain is a limp, cowering contender? I haven't heard anything low coming out of the McCain camp, and I don't think many people would characterize him as a cowering figure.

Dashel,Kerry,kennedy,Lehay,Dodd all have been congress at least 35 years all lost thier Bid to become president And lets see before Clinton got in Office it had been a long time since the party did anything for this country.

Amen to Daschele. The one good thing about the past week is that we've been able to watch Hillary be Hillary. And it isn't pretty (and I'm not talking about hairdos). That "honoring Obama night at the debates" gave me the willies.

2009: I'm old. Old enough to have been in SC when Rove went after McCain. Rove has a real moral compass compared to the axis of slime running the Clinton campaign.

Clinton will need to resort to shady tactics because the leadership on her part is missing.

If you do an analysis of styles, you'll see that Clinton is a data junky - she's the kind of person who would be best in a library, rumaging through facts, collecting data and then offering it up to a "Leader" to characterize and impelement.

Clinton is not leadership material - all you have to do is look at how her campaign is run: they've had several fits and starts and more then once people complained that the direction is missing, and that would need to come from Clinton. It's not a slight that she's not a leader - not everyone is! She is very tactical - she's not a big picture person. That's why she makes mistakes initially and then has to go back and correct them. If you look at her record, she does this over and over.

She's the kind of person you want to send off and research something - not try to put the big picture together.

Barack is quite different - he is very strategic and intuitively people can sense that and feel it - that's why he ha has such strong appeal - he articulates strategic views - Clinton articulates minutia. That's the main differnece between the two.

But - the Clintons have little to no scruples and they will sling what ever much they can make up at Obama, and unfortunately, I'm cncerned we, the American People, who are notorious about not digging deeper but getting stuck on rumors and slurs and slams will fall for it - and so the HillBillys will be back in the White House. I wonder if they'll bring Jethro and Granny this time?

Dsachle who? Is he still in party politics? He is looking for ambassdership.

It is quite possible Hillary may steal the election; I put absolutely nothing past the Clintons. On the other hand, let's get real about Ohio and Texas. Obama was never expected to win either state, yet he came close, especially in Texas, and will win the delegates. I hardly think this qualifies for the universal triumph that Clinton and her fan base are yelling about. Add to that the fact that the news media jumped on the Clinton bandwagon in the few days leading up to the elections (69% of the Obama stories in the two or three days before Tuesday were negative) and you have the media partially responsible for changing the minds of last minute voters. That doesn't bode all that well for Hillary. Finally, I have heard from folks in Texas who are laughing about her win because Republicans came out in numbers to vote for her (and it doesn't take that many to push her over the top) because they know that the Republicans can beat her in November and they want to run against her.
So, yeah, Hillary won 'great' victories on Tuesday, using her own nasty campaign tacticts and with a little help of the media and the Republicans.
And all you folks who want to give the election over to her and her foul-mouth band of thugs: if you succeed in stealing the nomination, I am going to laugh myself silly when she loses in November to John McCain, a man who should be a knock-over but who will gain strength and stature in running against this woman with so much baggage I am surprise she can walk.

Here, Here

vanchav said:"Just read a comment I found quite disturbing. Bush lost the popular vote in 2004 and won the election."

Wrong.

Bush won the popular in 2004 with 62 Million votes to Kerry 59 Million votes,

vanchav said: "it doesn't matter who wins the popular, who gets the most delegates is what really matters."

Wrong.

It does matter who is winning the states with most ELECTORAL VOTES to find the candidate more ELECTABLE in the general election.

Hillary Clinton already has 263 ELECTORAL VOTES of the states she has won and 270 are needed to win the presidency.

If you take Daschle seriously, Democrats will lose the general election, just like Daschle, as Senate Majority Leader, lost his election. He probably doesn't even realize that politically he has not been taken seriously in the last three years.

I don't see how Obama's ethical stand plays out as a weakness. It takes a lot of character and personal strength to withstand the blistering attacks of a full-out Clinton attack without dropping to her level. Not only does Obama stand head and shoulders above her in decency and ethics, but his refusal to shotgun back responses and flay in the mud with her tells me he has courage and tenacity, combined with sensitivity and judgment.

Teach53 - Give your mom a hug and tell her there are lots and lots and lots of people out here her think just as she does, and are suprised to find themselves thinking the same way. Shame on Hillary Clinton and her nasty campaign. Shame on her campaign staff. Shame on folks her are encouraging her to continue in this direction. Shame on women who are her biggest supporters and are showing the world that the way a woman wins is to be hysterial, angry, frustrated, dirty, duplicitous, shrill, and deceitful. Hillary Clinton is pushing back the rights of women by showing women in the worst possible light.

Twinmom, you clearly don't get what the two-step voting system in Texas is about.

Just check the delegate counts for Texas when all is said and done. Obama won that state.

What's wrong with comparing particular tactics to Ken Star's tactics? I think HC's tenacity is getting to the Majority Leader.

So Daschel is assuming that the "monster" comment is equivalent to the "Ken Star" one? Uhm, why? Wolfson was right, the new lines of attack by the Obama campaign are Ken Star like(show me your tax returns, etc.) so why is Wolfson wrong on the camparison. Is the Obama campaign getting desperate? On the issue of civility who is Dashcel to say anything isn't this the man who used to be a longtime supporter of the Clinton's and later betrays them and supports Obama. Yes, everyone has a right to support whom they want. But loyality is also part of being civility.

Obama camp made a mess yesterday with their monster talk now the only thing they can come up with is fire someone on the Clinton side.

Some of you are missing the point Powers was not fired she resigned I did not hear anyone on the Obama side calling for her head, she took the initiative and did what she felt she had to do.

As for Texas and who won, the votes are there on every site for anyone interested in counting them, so if Obama and his followers want to say they won Texas, all they need to do now is go claim it go tell Dean and MSM to mark it off for them. Geez!!

Paulus, one more thing. Rather than lying about the Texas results, what about sticking to the topic of the post.

Paulus - Since only primary voters could vote in the caucus on primary night, you can only count the voters ONCE. From what I've seen about the primary results (Caucus results aren't final), she won by over 100,000 votes. And to do as well as he did - but still not win, Obama had to outspend Clinton nearly 4-1. That seems like an obscene amount of money - and still not win.
Get your facts straight. Votes from the same individual can only count once. unless maybe, you're from Chicago!

twinmom48,

did you still not learn that Hillary actually LOST Texas?

Obama will get most of the pledged delegates and even the majority of the grand total popular vote, after the Primary & caususes results have been combined.

Why do Hillary supporters refuse to be reasonable about the course of this nomination campaign? Because Hillary herself still believes in it? Wouldn't we like to see some realism in a presidential candidate? Hillary talking about winning the nomination is a mighty empty amount of words compared with Obama's call for change in the USA.

Obama is Ken Starr.

Harrison -- When Obama said that Clinton lacks judgment, that the Republicans have a "dumptruck of dirt" on her, that she's just more of the same and is too divisive to lead, I did not hear Obama's supporters -- nor men in the Democratic leadership -- come out and caution restraint. Now all of a sudden, critiquing an opponent is a high crime. Sorry, as a black man and Clinton supporter I find this preposterous and subtly racist. Why? I want to play harball as a black guy just like the others. Daschle, Gary Hart, and others who are spewing at Clinton for being a strong campaigner should ask themselves why its good for them but not for her.

Why on earth would she fire Wolfson? For anyone who saw his and Axelrod's apprearance on ABC's Sunday morning news show last week, I'd suggest that we were getting a sneak preview of how Clinton effectively trounced Obama in Tuesday's Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island races. Wolfson was effective in promoting Clinton's candidacy. Axelrod was "the Wizard of Oz - unmasked" - stammering, one note (tax returns - what's the big deal about that!). Daschle should remember why the Ken Starr comparison is apt. I think it was $ 8 million dollars, countless attorneys, thousands upon thousands of hours and pages of a final report. And what did they find in all their investigations of business deals and professional conduct - absolutely no wrong doing. She has been vetted by the sleaziest, most partisan group ever and went on to be elected twice as U.S. Senator from New York and has risen to the top of the Democratic field of candidates with only this unvetted, inexperienced puppy biting at her heels. This year is her turn - she's earned it. If she were a man, we'd be coronating her. If Obama were a woman, she wouldn't have made it to the second debate.

Go Hillary!!!!

Obama is acting like Ken Starr. He has run his entire campaign using this simple fomula:

O = unity and hope

C = divisiveness, negativity, sins of the past, dumptruck of dirt, etc.

These equations really are referring to her "past" - which really isnt hers but Bills. Daschle is an Obamite. His credibility on this subject is questionable.

Daschle has it right. And I think Clinton supporters (and I'm one) should start expressing their sincere concerns about her campaign's current tactics. If we as Democrats want to be any different from conservative Republicans in the way we respect other people and codes and modes of behavior and communication, we should give a signal to the Clinton campaign that they should not behave in this fashion, not against John McCain and even less so against an outstanding and highly respected fellow Democrat, Barack Obama.

If they continue in this fashion, I decided for myself that I will vote for Obama in the Pennsylvania primary. Let's hope they don't.

Only if Obama makes Larry, Moe, and Curly resign too!