Political Punch

Oh, who cares about appointment books that are over 10 years old. She was Bill Clinton's wife! She doesn't need an appointment to speak with him. Tonight, Brian Williams - with only his pretty face to his credit - said on air that they would be working through the night to "pour through these records". Again, who cares!

Remember Obama categorically stated the following;

Obama claims he only did 5 hours of work with Rezko htrough his church.

Obama was never in church when Rev. Wright was giving those hateful and anti-America speeches.

I am really interested in the number of jobs Obama was able to find for laid-off workers on the street of Chicago as a community organizer.

The truth about Obama is starting to drip out little by little. I believe Republicans have enough now to swiftboat him out the election this fall.

Atleast we know that Hillary knew what FMLA meant -- Obama was clueless. He was busy supporting Wright, nodding his head and jumping up and down. Hillary was involved -- we know she is very interested in laws pertaining to children and families. There is enough proof of it. It is therefore reasonable to assume that she took a lot of interest in it and made an attempt to influence Bill and engaged him in conversations about it. She did not have to hold meetings but she was involved nevertheless.

Enough about Rev Wright. Yes, there are journalists with serious obsessive-compulsive issues about Obama. Are we going to follow them and the Cable News sound bites to decide who to vote for? Or are we going to look at issues, listen to what the candidates say (well, except for John McCain, because we're not allowed to hear what he has to say) and think for ourselves? Are Spitzer's call girl and Obama's preacher the most important thing going on? It's the 5th anniversary of a war that has devastated Iraq and devastated America. We should be talking about the neocons and the fools who led us into this war, why they did it, how we can honorably and humanely get out of the war and when. Start reporting about the candidates. All three of them. John McCain has had plenty to say this week and none of it has been reported here.

this was already pointed out at kos some time ago. chris dodd was rather surprised she would take credit. and then he wasn't surprised she would take credit.

The Clintons are the most corrupt politicians to ever live in the White House. There is plenty of proof of that. Hillary's papers that were released are not inclusive. They were conveniently picked through and many were removed. The Clinton supporters are definitely the ones blindly following their leader. WAKE UP!

irma, funny post.

Greta posted:

"marie,

just check Jake's new thread about NAFTA and for once be prepared to learn a truth about Hillary Clinton."

Greta, you know nothing. I was an Edwards supporter, first and foremost. I know that ALL politicians are flawed, even (God forgive me for saying it) Obama.

catherine,

for we moment we're studying Mrs. Clinton's paperwork... it's very boring... but enlightening on a lot things she did NOT do (while she says she did)... and the thing she DID do (but denies)...

Greta ~

Help me understand why you think Obama/his camp. don't want to release his paperwork and why you think the media doesn't push the issue?

I have to say, as a former Obama supporter, the article and the comments in support of finding something, anything horrible, is pretty benine and petty. I am in such a crash about the Obama let down, that this is actually pretty dumb, it's obvious and useless gossip. Come on people, don't make us look worse. Remember, we need to help people in this country. Although, I think this is more from the right wing than Obama people, they're pretty busy fighting off the right wing attack machine at the moment.

marie,

just check Jake's new thread about NAFTA and for once be prepared to learn a truth about Hillary Clinton.

I know Clinton's campaign biggest win is the State of Denial, but you cannot deny EVERYTHING there is to know about Hillary. If you do, nobody will take you serious anymore. BTW that's exactly Hillary's problem right now, so you might think you're in good company.

Greta ~
Please move beyond what the AP releases. There's a lot of information on the web that will help you become better informed. Also, is it any of your business or anyone elses where Hillary was when her husband "did the dirty thing" (come on). Sounds like a judgement I wouldn't want to have placed on me.

Again, let's not forget which candidate has chosen to NOT release HIS paperwork.

What? Obama is making a huge stink about Hillary needing to release documents, yet HE DOESN'T KNOW WHERE ANY OF HIS STATE SENATE DOCUMENTS ARE? What a total loser. So what, did this total fake think he could completely lie his way into the Presidency by distracting us with minute things about the Clintons? Wow , I guess this smooth talker has had a life full of getting away with things. His reputation worsens day by day now that there is pressure to "vet" him. I am glad we found out before he made it to the general. We would have been doomed. What a let down. I am embarssed that I ever defended him.

Greta, you seem gleeful to learn where Hillary was when Monica was whatever. I am so overdosed with politicians' sex lives that I simply don't care. Far more injurious and dangerous are the liasons with the pulpit. Who would have ever thought that?

marie, these schedules are great fun.

We learn that Hillary Clinton spent the night in the White House on the day her husband did the dirty thing with Monica, and may have actually been there when it happened, according to records of her schedule released today by the National Archives.

In December, 2000, when both of Hillary Clinton's brothers were involved in trying to broker pardon arrangements for associates, several days of documents show only a long list of 'private meetings' at the White House.

The schedules will aslo shed some light on Clinton's claims of "35 years of experience,". Look at this headline from The Guardian: "Clinton a long way from the White House at key foreign policy moments."

And, AP: "She was also involved in helping her husband win congressional approval of the North American Free Trade Agreement, a deal she now criticizes and says she would try to change."

Denver, here she comes!

Harold ~
".....whole range of "solutions' and actions she wasn't even involved in." What might that "whole range" be?

Regardless, let's not forget that the Obama camp. has yet to release his paperwork. It's easier to critique the "record" if it's been released.

Greta wrote:

"The Lady's schedule indeed appears to be informative on various issues.

Politico reports for instance how it shows that Hillary helped to push NAFTA. Had the paperwork been out before the Ohio primary, we might have seen different results there."

Greta, I looked at Politico's scanned docs; it looked like a 15 minute meeting with 120 people attending. HRC is noted for closing the meeting and that is it. No indication that "she helped push NAFTA."
11:30-11:45 15 years ago. Where was Barack Obama 15 years ago and what was he doing?

NAFTA has turned out to be a mixed bag, benefitting some states and burdening others. Tweaking it needs.

I will be surprised if anything monumental comes out of these 11,000 pages, if the scanned docs are indicative of the remaining entries. They simply don't have much info.

And where are Obama's 11,000 pages? LOL

The more we learn about Hillary Clinton, the more the see how she has been taking credit for a whole range of 'solutions' and actions she wasn't even involved in.

This is stark example. No wonder that Chris Dodd and Ted Kennedy, who did the work on this, will never have considered to endorse Clinton. They know all about her.

No wonder as well that her ratings as a Senator when it comes to passing bills are labeled 'Extremely poor", where Obama for instance has the average ratings.

Ya, Hillary didn't do anything to pass FMLA.

The bill was basically written during Bush I and vetoed a couple times. All Bill42 had to do is sign the thing after Congress dusted it off and passed it yet another time.

Funny thing, when Obama was asked for his papers while a state Senator from Illinois, he said that he didn't know where they were, that they were probably thrown out.

Huh??

This is such a one-sided demand for Hillary to release data, while the press forgets that Obama's papers were discarded.

Isn't that a little out of the ordinary to not maintain personal files and records? Or is it merely convenient?

The Lady's schedule indeed appears to be informative on various issues.

Politico reports for instance how it shows that Hillary helped to push NAFTA. Had the paperwork been out before the Ohio primary, we might have seen different results there.

It's a CO-Presidency. He will help her. President Clinton knows what to do.

Clinton 08

Howard Wolfson says, "11, 000 pages of the former First Lady's schedules are now part of the public record and I believe that is approx. 11, 000 more docs. than the Obama camp. has released up until this point relating to any part of his service especially as a State Senator...When these docs. were released and we had a chance to look at them online, we put out a statement about them and in that statement we called on Senator Obama again to release relevant documents and information from his tenure in the State Senate relating to his schedule, to memos , to letters that he may have written to state agencies perhaps on behalf of Mr. Rezko or others.....We've heard different answers from Sen. Obama about this when asked about it. At one point he said he had documents, another point he said he did not have documents. Apparently, he left the office with nothing....."

One thing is true Hillary had no problem releasing over 11, 000 documents...Obama does. Give it time...he'll get caught re. sour info. on his record and once again we'll hear another speech.

Maybe Obama should make use of this act so that he may deal with his identity issues that apparently need attention and counseling.

By the way Mary,
The only relevant question, in my opinion, is did the campaign bring on someone touting a religious perspective, making it part of a campaign, with the intent of influencing voters in that direction, in a substantive manner, showing a flagrant disregard for the separation of church and state. Obama did exactly that. If Hillary did that I would never support her.

Catherine in NM, great point.

Catherine in NM, great point.

This is why the MSM and their Messiah, Mr. Hope, wanted these papers released. Nit-pick, nit-pick, nit-pick. Heaven knows you have 11,000 pages to pick your nits from! Have fun.

Now, what about pushing Mr. Hope to release ALL of his previous tax records and his Illinois legislature records and then you can nit-pick those too!

I'm sure you're all working on that, right? I know you all are just chomping at the bit to dig into Mr. Hope's previous life, right? *SARCASM*

We already know you people (the MSM) HATE the Clintons and are doing your very best to destroy them. I can't wait to see your faces when she's sworn in as President. I hope she bans you all from her Press room. You all deserve it.

HAHA...it's b/c someone else was in charge of it jake. not clinton.

Mary,
I hope to see a complete investigation by MSM on Clinton's relationship with Clinton's religious affiliations. At the same time I hope we get to see Obama's complete relationship as well. How much money has been paid to the Reverend Wright out of campaign funds? Are you willing to have that question explored? I'm willing to bet Hillary comes up clean as a whistle, but we haven't seen the whole Obama picture yet. Bring it on!

By the way Emily,
I would like to keep OBAMA's speech in the forefront, for the next two weeks, if it so important to you. Per the ABC News report the speech was filled with contradictions when compared to what Obama has said over the past several months about Reverend Wright. Obama has lost trust with the American people. Hillary is consistently releasing information and promoting transparency. Obama is trying to hide behind the class "CRAZY UNCLE" defense.

BTW,

With his unending and seemingly less than objective reporting on the Rev. Wright stories, your colleague Brian Ross has left many readers with the impression that he (and/or ABC NEWS) has a particular and personal bone to pick with Obama. This is the chatter I have heard. What say you?

What about all her other claims? All bogus?

Yawn, boring. Irrelevant. 11,000 pages. Only political voyeurs and right-wing haters care about this kind of stuff, and their intentions are rarely good. Right Emily?

Just a suggestion....let's run the fine-toothed comb over Obama's documents while he was BRIEFLY in the Senate. Oh, I forgot, he/staff won't release those documents for one reason or another.

By the way, Hillary, for the first time since mid-feb is leading in the Gallup Poll. Don't get too excited I'm sure this poll won't get any air time. Let's be honest here, if it weren't for the internet, a Hillary supporter would only hear from the networks which continue to be a campaign show for Obama. Sick.

Jake,
Perhaps you could look into Hillary's religious affiliations with the same rigor you used in writing about Obama's religious associations. Perhaps a symbolic acknowledgement, comment, investigation or factcheck on the article by Barbara Ehrenreich,
"Hillary's Nasty Pastorate" that appeared in The Nation today?

What say you?

Not just odd, Jake: damning. Typical of the "say it and it will become true" philosophy of the Clinton campaign. Although the release of these 11,000 pages was timed to divert attention from Obama's speech yesterday, it may yet backfire mightily on Hillary Clinton.