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Ferraro Returns to the Scene of the Crime
March 20, 2008 3:31 PM
Going back to the Daily Breeze, former vice presidential nominee Geraldine Ferraro says she did not appreciate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, including her in his speech about race and his controversial former pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright Tuesday.
Obama said "We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro in the aftermath of her recent statements as harboring some deep-seated bias."
Ferraro did not like that.
"To equate what I said with what this racist bigot has said from the pulpit is unbelievable," Ferraro said. "He gave a very good speech on race relations, but he did not address the fact that this man is up there spewing hatred."
Continued Ferraro, "what this man is doing is he is spewing that stuff out to young people, and to younger people than Obama, and putting it in their heads that it's OK to say `Goddamn America' and it's OK to beat up on white people. You don't preach that from the pulpit."
She also thought Obama was hypocritical when he said the country could "pounce on some gaffe by a Hillary supporter as evidence that she's playing the race card," when listing all the ways the nation could not rise to his challenge of racial healing.
"That's exactly what he did," Ferraro said. "It was their campaign that started this."
- jpt
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Obama's grandmother raised him, loves him and gave him the American dream. Comparing his beloved the grandmother to a hatred pastor is unbelievable. If she is still alive, she would have disowned him.
Comparing Wright with other pastors is very offensive. I certainly hope that not all black churches are preaching hatreds as Wright 's church does on every Sunday.
Comparing Ferraro's comment with Wright's filthy spew has no ground to stand. Also note that Obama refered Ferraro's comment as "wrong headed" earlier, but now as an equal with Wright's racist and hate sermon. Though this is not a surprise. This type flip flop is the same as Obama's positions on NAFTA & IRQ many times since 2002.
Obama was trying to lecture us about the race, but he prefers a racist church and pastor. Obama needs to tell us his motivations to choose that church and a mentor pastor, to stay there for 20 years and won’t disown Wright even today. Obama embarrasses his own races - white and blank.
If Obama has no back bone to stand up for what he believes, how he could stand up for our country.
Posted by: V,CA | Mar 20, 2008 10:34:11 PM
Mike in Texas --
I think Barack Obama was responding to the personally insulting nature of Don Imus' words, degrading and insulting specific young women. Pastor's words are against a government and a system, not individuals.
Not trying to justify the pastor's statements, but I think there is a real difference between the wrong of personally insulting individuals (it's called slander, although I'm not a lawyer, so it perhaps could be argued that they were public figures) and the clear and reprehensible wrong of insulting a government and a demographic group.
Just a rational, thoughtful assessment of the difference. Commence response by talking point.
Posted by: Michael Blackburn | Mar 20, 2008 10:32:16 PM
I do not think GF has given very many hate sermons, and most likely never damned America. Obama simply needed someone or something to juxtapose. She was his chosen counterpoint.
Now if all of the press, not just ABC, would ask Obama. Why, given Wrights diatribes and profane blasphemy, was he Obama) the first presidential candidate to call for the firing of Don Imus?
I am not defending Imus, his remark was in defensible.
I am asking, do Obama's call and his statements re his daughters (below) not constitute hypocrisy? Was he not "worshiping in a Glass Church while throwing stones"?
In an interview with Jack Tapper (ABC) titled "Obama: Fire Imus", dated April 11, 2007, Obama was the First White House Contender to Call for Imus' Firing Over Racial Slur. Text follows:
In an interview with ABC News Wednesday afternoon, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., called for the firing of talk radio host Don Imus. Obama said he would never again appear on Imus' show, which is broadcast on CBS Radio and MSNBC television.
"I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus," Obama told ABC News, "but I would also say that there's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude."
Obama said he appeared once on Imus' show two years ago, and "I have no intention of returning."
"He didn't just cross the line," Obama said. "He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America. The notions that as young African-American women -- who I hope will be athletes -- that that somehow makes them less beautiful or less important. It was a degrading comment. It's one that I'm not interested in supporting."
Though every major presidential candidate has decried the racist remarks, Obama is the first one to say Imus should lose his job for them.
His proclamation was the latest in an ever-expanding list of bad news for Imus.
"What we've been seeing around this country is this constant ratcheting up of a coarsening of the culture that all of have to think about," Obama said.
"Insults, humor that degrades women, humor that is based in racism and racial stereotypes isn't fun," the senator told ABC News.
"And the notion that somehow it's cute or amusing, or a useful diversion, I think, is something that all of us have to recognize is just not the case. We all have First Amendment rights. And I am a constitutional lawyer and strongly believe in free speech, but as a culture, we really have to do some soul-searching to think about what kind of toxic information are we feeding our kids," he concluded.
Posted by: Mike In Texas | Mar 20, 2008 10:17:32 PM
Clinton and Obama keep stressing college. To the both of you who paid for your education? Could it be a goverment program? My point is everyone should not go to college. There should be apprentis programs for those who love to work with their hands. In case you both didn't know it was the burger flippers taxes who paid for your education. Get real and quit the BS.
Posted by: jackmack | Mar 20, 2008 9:53:01 PM
Jake Tapper. The Comments. Are Getting Pretty Abusive. Here.
I think Ferraro has a point of view. I didn't think she ought to stay in Hillary's campaign if she was not going to stick with the campaign's message. Hillary has said repeatedly that those in her campaign that sink to the lowest common denominator and do not address the issues have got to go.
That being said, Ferraro threw what she thought was a compliment to the Daily Breeze. I don't know if it has been reported that Obama's campaign sent the story around for reporters to pick it up or not. Then she gets scrutinized for that behavior. She does not like the scrutiny and says it is Obama's fault for bringing to light what she said and distorting it. She got further scrutiny. When things didn't go her way, she digressed further into a racial morass.
What does she have to gain now?
Her reputation as the first woman VP Democratic candidate is laying in tatters. I don't know what she is supposed to do at this point but she never corrected the original snafu. If she got ahead and was selected for the ticket because she was a woman. Good great wonderful. Her experience as the woman candidate was not comparable to Obama for being the half black half white. The comparison itself is flawed.
A VP doesn't have to fight through a process of elimination. The voters don't vote for the VP during the primary. She didn't have to raise money to survive this process either. A VP does not go through the same kinds of hit as the marque name on the presidential ballot.
My question is whether Ferraro feels like she has been defamed or not, what can she possibly gain by coming back. Wright has not come out to defend his record as former pastor or as a community servant. Obama did not disassociate himself with the man.
Ferraro has been dropped from the campaign. Hillary has moved on. Assuming Ferraro still wants to move her Hillary's candidacy forward, how are her repeated comments helping Hillary's bid?
You have been rebuked and scorned, right or wrong, Ferraro. What do you hope to gain by continuing to speak while this primary continues?
Posted by: Genna | Mar 20, 2008 9:32:34 PM
I think Ferraro's comments were right on the mark. I am surprised she had the courage given her party's incessant pandering to all black militant causes.
Obama has had the finest education possible, and has used the black community to get where he now is. The only problem is Obama is also white. He comes off as a racist himself. I pity his poor grandmother.
Posted by: Harris Pilton | Mar 20, 2008 9:29:19 PM
The candidates and their surrogates seem to be growing increasingly dysfunctional with each passing day. Unless the DNC finds a way to reverse the trend, the GOP may win.
Posted by: TexasDemocrat | Mar 20, 2008 9:14:21 PM
By the way Reverent Wright is right in some of his core messages. His tone emits a lot of disappointment though, but who wonders?
Of course 9/11 happened at least partly because of inappropriate diplomatic and intelligence efforts. Of course racism is still a hush up thing in the U.S and around the globe.
But shouldn't we be ahead in joining together over artificial and real barriers of race or gender in our society ?
Dogmatic pride is foolishness, especially pride on an abstract concept like a country. If we all are so so proud, there is no need to change anything in this great country. But not everything is so great around here, but many things are. Criticism shouldn't be abandoned or condemned in a real democracy.
Terrorism is not a new phenomenon, it's more a systematical or structural problem of societies. A war against terrorism is not possible by definition. The Bush administration used the shock of 9/11 to draw us into this war.
This war against Irak was a distraction, but was and is big business for Halliburton and others. (Actually for these mostly white men connected through "sculls and bones")
The real enemy fights first and foremost with propaganda in the Muslim world. They claim, that their way of live is in peril by U.S. and other western imperialistic policies. It's a conflict about cultures, way of live and independence. And thats exactly the only level on which one can defeat this kind of terrorism, namely to convince the other 1 Billion Muslims, that the West and the Muslim world can live together in piece and work together for our children and our future. Any large military action is counterproductive on the long run. Resistance against terrorism has to be developed with and out of the Muslim world. Muslim forces have to be joined in, because they are victims too.
Posted by: Michele | Mar 20, 2008 8:55:13 PM
I spent 50 bucks on the tapes they sell and got basiclly what you saw on tv. I felt that to make a real informed decision on Obamas sitting thru all those years of sermons it was only fair to listen,and yes I'm angry that any person would say those things about my country. I believe in America and I dont feel she should be da-med by anyone. As an American I know they have that right but it does not mean I like it. I took my self to the library and checked out some books by James Cone, heres an exerpt Dr. Cone has explained the his theology as follows isBlack theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . . Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.(Black theology and Black power). In case you missed it it preaches the distruction of the WHITE enemy. Sounds racist to me,do I want a racist President no I dont. Aryan Brotherhood churches preach god and white supremicy and black distruction. Thats the great thing my vote counts in keeping the wrong people out of office period. So honey check the facts google Cone but stop assuming that its not what it looked like
Posted by: girlinvt | Mar 20, 2008 8:52:11 PM
Am I allowed to call Geraldine Ferraro a silly old bat?
Or a striking example of feminist resentment?
An incarnation of good old catholic hypocrisy?
No? I could have guessed. So I won't.
Posted by: Harriet | Mar 20, 2008 8:22:30 PM
Fox would love to see Obama win. They know he is damaged goods.
Posted by: Chris T. | Mar 20, 2008 7:38:17 PM
A couple of weeks ago Obama had a fit over the things that were said by Geraldine Ferraro. She said that Obama would not be where he is today if he was not a black man. She was labeled a racist and pressured by Obama to leave her post working for Hillary as a fund raiser. Today Senator Kerry said the same thing about Obama. Because he is an Obama supporter should he be asked to leave for a racist remark as well or is there a different standard?
Posted by: Doral | Mar 20, 2008 7:11:04 PM
Some moron down below wrote, "Talk about milking your 15 minutes of fame . . ."
If this person bothered to read their history books, they would realize that Geraldine Ferraro will always be an icon.
Posted by: Rob | Mar 20, 2008 7:10:32 PM
Gerry, she doth protest too much. She has been very vitriolic and accusatory in her defense...I think what we're seeing here with her previous statements about Jesse Jackson and now Barack is a person with who is in denial about some of her own biases. She wouldn't happen to be Obama's grandmother would she? -JL
Posted by: Jesse Leamon | Mar 20, 2008 7:01:07 PM
Geraldine Ferraro has every right to defend herself against Barack Obama's comments in his speech. She must stand up for herself because Barack Obama was WRONG!
Barack states, "We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro, in the aftermath of her recent statements, as harboring some deep-seated racial bias.
How can he possibly compare the vile, racist, anti-American rantings of his hate-filled pastor to Geraldine Ferraro's statements? He used her name on purpose in this speech, along with his own grandmother, to try and equate the remarks. He did this to try and downplay the Rev. Wright's remarks. Does he think everyone in America is that stupid?
Barack Obama: It's 3 a.m, and your conscience is calling. I bet you won't pick up the phone.
Posted by: Barb | Mar 20, 2008 6:56:59 PM
Gerry Ferraro is a hero in my book and she was used by sen.Obama to'uplift' his candidacy as he shamelessly used the race card.
Posted by: ct houston | Mar 20, 2008 6:54:47 PM
Sam-Wright, Sam , Wright. It wasn't Ferraro who thew her grandmother under the bus . . . twice in a week.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Mar 20, 2008 6:39:49 PM
She started it...and he ended it and stated on CNN that he did not think she was racist....BUT if she wants to walk back into the lions den then I say we let her and sit back and watch her ruin what's left of her reputation.....
Posted by: Sam | Mar 20, 2008 6:31:44 PM
John Kerry said today Obama would be great for America and the world because HE IS A BLACK MAN. Say, John does the name Ferraro ring a bell in the Obama campaign? You know the black man thing?
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yes you are right- I was thinking the same thing.I thought if it had been
Ferraro saying this RACIST
but since it's Kerry it's OK cause he is on obama's team.
really what was so wrong about what Ferraro said?
I bet she's done more for Blacks then those two bubble heads Obama & Kerry
Posted by: Lulu | Mar 20, 2008 6:31:29 PM
And she still keeps digging! Wow!
Posted by: Alice | Mar 20, 2008 6:26:39 PM
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