From the Fact Check Desk: The Clinton Campaign Misrepresents Clinton NAFTA Meeting

Cheerleading for NAFTA to get it passed ain't no significant political experience or commander in chief preparation.

The real deal is LYING about it.

And this kind of petty lying, deceit, and duplicity ain't no commander in chief stuff.

America does not need a commander in chief who cannot stand for anything, who only espouses whatever gives political advantage at any given time, and--worst of all--who cannot own up (as in taking responsibility) for past actions and deeds whenever they appear to be unpopular.

You just cannot help to promote NAFTA as the best thing since sliced bread and turn around to lie to Ohio and Pennsylvania voters who feel shortchanged by it.

An honorable presidential candidate would have said--if she is HONESTLY convinced that NAFTA now hurts--"I am sorry I supported NAFTA, but it is now clear that this was an error of juedgment. Please forgive me. Going forward, I promise to review NAFTA."

But you can NEVER hear anything so noble from Hilary Clinton, which absolutely DISQUALIFIES her from being commander in chief, by which I mean, a position held by such human beings as George Washington, Abe Lincoln, FDR, and Eisenhower!

How do you stand up and lie before the voters when there is record that can be checked?

How do voters continue to supporter a candidate like this?

Let's just face it Hillary lied. Scary,what will she do as President?

You have to be kidding with this garbage report. This is why, if I were king,it would be a class A felony to start a sentence with the words :"I think".

you actually have the audacity to report that Clinton opposed the idea of introducing NAFTA before health care and you stupidly conclude that is evidence that she supported it? this is not only idiotic but judging from some of the comments here supporting this, appealing to the idiotic is good business. Or is that simply all thats left paying attention to main stream news?

I'm curious, how do the Clinton supporters ignore all the evidence? I am white, female, over 50 and should be supporting Hillary according to the polls. But for the life of me, I cannot support someone that cannot run her campaign without dissention, she is in the red financially with her campaign, she lies to the American public for her own gain. She is an embarassment to me as a woman. Please tell me is manipulation necessary for women to get ahead? Or would honesty and integrity be better. Am I just old=fashioned? I need a President that I can respect.

Respected journalist David Gergen(one of the few left!)has said many times that Hillary Clinton had many reservations about NAFTA when it was first proposed, and that's what she has been saying, if you listen. Did she support it when it was a fait accompli?Well, of course, she supported her President's decision, as she should have. I remember the Clinton years well, and for all you who can't remember or choose to forget, the Republicans were all over her for being the "co-president", for involving herself in the politics of the day instead of just decorating the Christmas tree or serving tea to Senate wives. So while you Obama fans may not want to give her any credit for her experience in the White House, let me tell you that the Republicans sure recognized it and continually tried to use it against Bill.

Dear mad Obama supporters,

Please stop attacking Hillary Clinton personally. You don't know her. Stop being desperate. Obama is not going to be president for many reasons. One of them is because he inspires people like you to be so hateful towards a woman who has made it her life's work to improve the lot of others.

Hate is not rewarded in this world. Please love your candidate, and stop hating Hillary.

Why has the US press been so reticent to report what the Canadian press has reported? The leak that tarred Obama and led to all sorts of scurrilous charges against him came from a long time ally of George Bush in the Canadian cabinet and was a complete distortion of the record.
According to a Canadian Broadcasting Company report, referenced in Huffington Post, "The Canadian government contacted Goolsbee to clarify Obama's position on trade, not the reverse. Although Goolsbee did meet with Canada's Chicago consul general George Rioux (not, as was reported in the original leak, Ambassador Michael Wilson), there's no evidence that he ever described Obama's position as mere political posturing. Instead, they met February 8, before NAFTA began to dominate the campaign, and discussion of the trade agreement took up just two to three minutes of the hour-long meeting. Goolsbee responded to Canadian questions by clarifying that Obama wasn't pushing to scrap NAFTA entirely, but that the agreement needed labor and environmental safeguards--basically what Obama had been saying in public. The memo was simply inaccurate, as even the Harper government now acknowledges after a firestorm of criticism by opposition parliament members, who've accused Harper's staffers of trying to help their Republican allies across the border by attacking the more likely Democratic candidate. In response, Harper called the leak "blatantly unfair," pledged to get to the bottom of it, and said "there was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA."

I feel relieved to know that there are people out there in the blogosphere that believe integrity matters. Like so many disappointed ex-Clinton supporters, I feel that I've been duped by this insane pair for far too long. Finally awoken to their poisonous ways, I can see why the reich wingers despise them so much, perhaps they have different reasons to my own, however, they have revealed themselves as evil creatures willing to do whatever it takes to claw their way to power.

Whatever relationship Bill had with the black community it is now history. Next, because of Bill Richardson's non-support of Hillary, expect to see the Hispanic bloc jettisoned also. The Clintons are vengeful dispicable people.

The people who attended meetings on NAFTA should be asked about if Clinton is trustwothy. If they say she is not, then Ohio vote must be redone. DNC must INVISTIGATE.

here comes the clintons again trying politics as usual to return to wh,but i got somthing for them if JESUS sur name was clinton and am in hell burning and GOD ask me to called the name of clinton and go to heaven i will rather rot in hell than say clinton and go to heaven,liars thiefs show us you tax,earmax and all docs from the wh,faik old couples who ought to be more worried of a grand child,and sleep in church asking GOD to forgive thier sins so maybe they can have a place in heaven,instead go around and be lieing against a young man they can call a son.but clinton rem we are in the 21 st century liars.
dr rene we are in 21 st century and stop giving stupid excuses about clintons and be real you old people give us a break nonsense

here comes the clintons again trying politics as usual to return to wh,but i got somthing for them if JESUS sur name was clinton and am in hell burning and GOD ask me to called the name of clinton and go to heaven i will rather rot in hell than say clinton and go to heaven,liars thiefs show us you tax,earmax and all docs from the wh,faik old couples who ought to be more worried of a grand child,and sleep in church asking GOD to forgive thier sins so maybe they can have a place in heaven,instead go around and be lieing against a young man they can call a son.but clinton rem we are in the 21 st century liars.
dr rene we are in 21 st century and stop giving stupid excuses about clintons and be real you old people give us a break nonsense

Sen. Clinton likes to talk about do-over elections. The only do-over election we might want to consider is in Ohio, since Sen. Clinton misled the voters in Ohio about her support of NAFTA.

At least Clinton did not have her staff talking to the Canadian government and telling them that the Senator from Illinois speeches was only politics. Once he was in office he would ensure NAFTA would benefit his government.

At least Sen. Clinton from the start made it clear that she did not fully support NAFTA but once the President of the United States made his decision on NAFTA, like a good soldier she followed the nations leader. America should not blame her for her husband’s mistakes.

Regardless of the news media that hate the Clinton’s, Sen. Clinton should impress all Americans especially women. Not only was she standing by her husband, she was mostly standing by her daughter and family unit. Americans should not listen to the media that suggests that she solely stood by her husband during the Monica affair. Like every strong woman that has found her self in a similar situation, she didn’t give up and worked on her marriage to keep her family together. From what I seen in the media lately, other politicians that were caught had done much worst. Chelsea is the result of a strong family because of Hillary and Bill’s commitment to their marriage and family. As Sen. Clinton fought for her family, she will fight and stand by you through trying times and hardship. She will never give up and that is why she will continue to be a great American leader. This represents why she will be a great president and why all Hispanic and all American voters should always support Sen. Hillary Clinton.

That's just plain wrong. David Gergen is a well known presidential adviser -- his credibility beyond criticism. He stated during a recent interview that Senator Clinton spoke strongly against NAFTA in private.

In public, as First Lady, did anyone expect her to state strong objections to NAFTA when President Bill Clinton was for it?

Furthermore, is it forbidden for a politician to hold one view on a given program such as NAFTA in 1992-94 and then more than 10 years later find that a different view must be taken because that particular program needs to be changed?

Not to worry. Mark Penn will just tell us that NAFTA wasn't a big agreement and it's the BIG agreements that really matter.

James Carville will tell us Bill "Judas" Richardson of the Obama campaign is still into free trade trading in the Clintons for 30 pieces of silver.

No doubt Hillary will be ready to lie on day one.

And life in the Clinton campaign goes on.

These latest revelations -that Hillary Clinton was in the White House on the days her husband, Bill Clinton had his sexual liaisons with Monica Lewinsky, and the NAFTA affair, when juxtaposed with Hillary Clinton's public comments on these two issues, clearly show that she would do and say anything (perhaps, as one reporter once supposed, "pimp out" her daughter), just to gain political advantage and power. Americans should be suspicious of someone like her. She would sell this nation down the river, is it is politically expedient. This is not the view of only Republicans and other non-Democrats. Yours truly is a DEMOCRAT.

Hillary Clinton presented herself to the nation as a victim, when her husband's serial sexual liaisons became public. It may have been on the strength of that public sympathy that she won the senate seat in New York. From all the look of things (she was in the White House during the sexual liaisons, indicating, they may have an open marriage, where by the one does not care about what the other's private life is about), Hillary may be in this compact with Bill Clinton, inspite of the public humiliation for no other reason, but the political advantage of name recognition. Most women would have cared to find out earlier, and sent Bill Clinton packing, for humiliating them in such a historic manner. For Hillary, it may have been the political calculus -this nomination run for the presidency.

On the other revelation -NAFTA: Hillary Clinton has publicly talked about her opposition to NAFTA, even as late as Ohio, Texas and the other recent Primaries. From her records that have been made public, it is obvious that Hillary Clinton was not straight with the public on her involvement with, and position on NAFTA. She claimed during the televised Democratic debate in Nevada, that all she saw and remember from NAFTA were a bunch of charts she did not understand. However, by her own records of involvement on NAFTA, it is obvious that Hillary Clinton saw more than charts, and not only did she not oppose NAFTA, she, infact campaigned and lobbied for its passage.

Unfortunately, the public and voters in this country do not seem smart enough to learn about these lies and purposeful deception by Hillary Clinton.

The fact is: Hillary Clinton is a much more prolific liar than Bill Clinton is, and that may be the reason why, inspite of the scandals both of them have found themselves in, it Hillary always, escapes indictment and conviction, and Bill Clinton always gets caught. Americans should be awry of a prolific liar like Hillary Clinton for a president.

Those of us (and it's a huge percentage) who support Obama, oppose Hillary, and strongly support NAFTA, know that this trade agreement helped our economy permanently revive from 80s Reagan/Bush stagnation. By allowing transparent partnering with between Canada and Mexico, the U.S. effectively competed with the EU trading alliance and with China and the rest of the Far East. Not only was there no giant sucking sound, poor Mexico got the short end of the stick and we made out like a bandit according to every subsequent study. This was one of Bill's most important accomplishments (by requiring environmental and labor provisions). The "Fair Trade" big-union special interests no longer own our party. Unionism is good (great!) and we must protect the right to unionize. But individual unions and guilds (teachers, AMA, auto, teamsters) are by definition only concerned about themselves and will sell the Dems out every time. Always have. The auto workers conspired with the auto industry to take short term benefits that gave away our biggest market. The teachers unions let high-paid senior teachers sell out each generation of youth and young teacher who quit. Fair trade is a scam that will lead Dems isolation and insularity while blocking innovation and efficiency. Obama is right that the answer is to invest in research, infrastructure, training, and education that will raise our standard of living and let us once again out compete the rest of the world.

I don't support Hillary Clinton for President, for multiple reasons that I won't go into here. That said, I just watched the trailers for "Hillary The Movie" that was mentioned in a few of the previous posts. Yes Hillary has made the classic politician move of talking out of both sides of her mouth (lying) when it comes to NAFTA, but you know it's just an ultra-biased hit-piece when Ann Coulter is featured as one of her detractors.

I personally don't think NAFTA is the huge problem people make it out to be.
I think the big problem was when China was given Most Favored Nation trading status and allowed into the World Trade Organization. Most of our manufacturing jobs were sucked up by China who then dumps products back in our country, below costs when there's competition. Some were lost to Mexico and Canada, but a tiny fraction compared to China.

NAFTA affects the trading between the US, Mexico and Canada and has nothing to do with China.

I am getting more and more disappointed in Clinton saying one whopper after another.

China's most favored nation status lands at the feet of King George.