'Gerald' Ferraro Equates Self with Obama

"Will, with the same poker analogy, the game still isn't over. Many cards have not been dealt yet, and if one candidate see's even a slim chance of winning, why should he/she quit. This contest will be decided by delegates at the convention, so neither Hillary or Barack will have enough pledged delegates. Why should either quit just because the other one wants them to?
If you are a Hillary supporter Barack is pulling the party down, if you are an Obama supporter Hillary is pulling the party down. I think it should be played all the way out. Hillary has nothing to lose at this point. I wonder though, does OBama?"

OK, I can respect this point of view. You make a great point here. But, Im not certain how you weigh the fact that this long drawn-out battle is proving to be a negative for the Democrats. The nomination is not as important as the General Election. And this drawn at process, at this point is hurting the Dems. I can agree, if tHillary was able to catch up in pledged delegates. Even by 1 point lead, then I'd say GO GET HIM! That is not the case. She can not beat him in pledged delegates. She will not. She will have to rely on the superdelegates. The argument will be that the superdelegates will have far more say then they should and that they should follow the will of the people. It will be a rain of fire. Look, I don't want to take away anyones fire. I can't say I don't love a good fight, but when people who are supposed to be on the same team are scratching each others eyes out, somethings gotta give.

You are correct Will, except for some darn reason, we are not allowed to scrutinize Obama's integrity. Every time we do, we are called racists, and idiots, and nutjobs. He answers 8 questions on Rezko and runs away from reporters.
His integrity is one of the reasons I cannot ever vote for him. He is a Chicago politician, a wheeler-dealer and he is only out for himself. Why do I feel that way, because I was born and raised and lived in Chicago for 35 years. He did nothing to help the people of Illinois, the City of Chicago or his own district. He is not what he says he is. How is he going to change our country and the entire world in 4 years?

Google Obama/Rezko video.. see NBC' Carol Marin video.

Did you hear that this NY Governor Spitzer and Bill Clinton were together many a time, in the evenings? Wonder, what these two were doing together? Exchanging notes? Cable and local TVs were full of Lewinsky and Kristen images today...Getting tired of these Spitzer and Clintons. Turn the page folks...we don't want the baggage of the 90s.

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Ok, I looked at the link you sent to someone else. It didn't mention that Hillary was one of 3 out of 100s of Watergate attorneys who was recommended at not for rehire by her supervisor, a Democrat, Jerry Zeiffman. He wrote a book about these events and Hillary is ethically challenged and lies.

So this link you had makes it look as though she had a big success there and she did not.
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LOL @ "ethically challenged."

Some people don't realize that a persons integrity is a valid characteristic to be scrutinized when you are considering someone to be the president.

I'm sure, since she was one of three out of 100's, that means there was a vast media conspiracy against her.

Hillary is a fighter, some say. I'd sure grant that. The problem is, she is a dumb fighter, she knows only to fight and fight with everyone around, including her own party, her fellow democrats and everyone. It ain't getting you anywhere folks. She will bury us all in November with her attitude and approach that are seeped in old Washington politics.

Will, with the same poker analogy, the game still isn't over. Many cards have not been dealt yet, and if one candidate see's even a slim chance of winning, why should he/she quit. This contest will be decided by delegates at the convention, so neither Hillary or Barack will have enough pledged delegates. Why should either quit just because the other one wants them to?
If you are a Hillary supporter Barack is pulling the party down, if you are an Obama supporter Hillary is pulling the party down. I think it should be played all the way out. Hillary has nothing to lose at this point. I wonder though, does OBama?

Will, I am a professional poker player.
You also have to know when to bluff, and when you opponent is bluffing. You see, in poker, the best hand, is not necessarily the winning hand. Nerves of steel, calm under pressure etc... There are many more dimensions to poker. I have won and I have lost, but I NEVER quit until my last chip is played.
Great analogy btw....

Uh Oh, I hope you arent the one that has been paying my rent all this time. I am very aware of all the tactics involved in playing poker, and winning plenty of money. Sure, you never quit. That mentality is necessary. But, setting yourself and your party to fail is a no no. It's like showing the table you have a 7 - 2 offsuit, the other guy has a flush, no possible boat or straight flush showing, and you call an all-in because you think the dealer is going to muck the cards. Ok, I've seen that happen before but anyways. There willl be a point when Hillary has to back down. And I don't think she gets any points for waiting til the last minute to do so.

SuzieQ. So Hillary is flawed. You don't think Mr. Obama has his flaws? His racist church and minister who denounce white people, his association with William Ayers, Farrakhan, and slumlord and indicted criminal Tony Rezko. I think you will have to turn a blind eye to Mr.Obama if you think he is clean.

I tend to think that she should stay a Senator where she can propose legislation for her favorite causes.

I think she has too many ethics problems and character flaws, including being very divisive, to be President. She likes to destroy those who don't agree with her - for her that is "the fun part".

What is the clincher for me...she led the attacks on the women her husband used and abused. Maybe she thinks what she did was justified because of her great cause....but I disagree.

Cortez, I am a Hillary supporter , not a nut. So stop with the name calling. I gave you the link to make sure all the info was there , good and bad, you didn't mention, she was never convicted or found guilty or charged with anything from that era.
Hillary has her flaws, but at least I know exactly what they are. I can't say the same for Mr. Obama yet.

n poker, no saying can be more true then,

"You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em!"

I respect someone with principals and acute understanding of the situation that they are in.

Stubbornness has it's place except when it is self-serving. This especially the case in politics.
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Will, I am a professional poker player.
You also have to know when to bluff, and when you opponent is bluffing. You see, in poker, the best hand, is not necessarily the winning hand. Nerves of steel, calm under pressure etc... There are many more dimensions to poker. I have won and I have lost, but I NEVER quit until my last chip is played.
Great analogy btw....

I just read the link to Hillary's achievement: 1. Rodham Clinton was accused of involvement in a failed savings and loan in Arkansas, during a 1994 investigation. The Clintons had partnered with the savings and loan owners, Jim and Susan McDougal, in a real estate venture known as Whitewater, while Rodham Clinton worked for the Rose Law Firm. Hillary’s billing records were subpoenaed for auditing purposes, but went missing for two years until they were discovered in the first lady’s book room.

2. Death of Vince Foster, childhood friend of Bill Clinton’s, and Hillary’s former Rose Law Firm colleague, was investigated in conjunction with Whitewater. Deputy White House counsel Foster was found dead in a Virginia park on July 20, 1993, and a suicide note, torn into many pieces, was discovered in his briefcase. Foster had been murdered.

There are so many more Hillary failures and controversies from the hyperlink, this Hillary nut sent me to read. But enough, I did not even touch Lewinsky and all that Clintons crap. Just sick of those 90s. Turn the page on the old Clintons.

Ok, I looked at the link you sent to someone else. It didn't mention that Hillary was one of 3 out of 100s of Watergate attorneys who was recommended at not for rehire by her supervisor, a Democrat, Jerry Zeiffman. He wrote a book about these events and Hillary is ethically challenged and lies.

So this link you had makes it look as though she had a big success there and she did not.

SuzieQ: This is a short list, but you get the idea.

Her first cause was children, fighting abuse, and chairing the Children's Defense Fund.
She began her career as a lawyer after graduating from Yale Law School in 1973.
following her career as a Congressional legal counsel; she was named the first female partner at Rose Law Firm in 1979 and was listed as one of the one hundred most influential lawyers in America in 1988 and 1991.
During 1974 she was a member of the Nixon impeachment inquiry staff in Washington D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal. She helped research procedures of impeachment and the historical grounds and standards for impeachment.
Hillary co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977.
In late 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation.

She was the First Lady of Arkansas from 1979 to 1981 and 1983 to 1992, and was active in a number of organizations concerned with the welfare of children, and was on the board of Wal-Mart and several other corporate boards.
Bill Clinton appointed her chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.
One of the most important initiatives of the entire Clinton governorship, she fought a prolonged but ultimately successful battle against the Arkansas Education Association to put mandatory teacher testing as well as state standards for curriculum and classroom size in place.
She introduced Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth in 1985, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy.
As First Lady of the United States she took a very prominent role in public policy.
She was the initial first lady to hold a post-graduate degree and to have her own professional career up to the time of entering the White House. She was also the initial first lady to take up an office in the West Wing of the White House.
She fought hard for Universal Health Care as First Lady, although it wasn't successful, it's something she learned from.

She visited over 80 countries as First Lady giving important speeches, about such controversial topics as human rights/women's rights in China.

Her major initiative, the Clinton Health Care Plan, failed to gain approval by the Congress in 1994, but in 1997 she helped establish the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) and the Adoption and Safe Families Act.
As a Senator and after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, Hillary worked with her colleagues to secure the funds New York needed to recover and rebuild.
She fought to provide compensation to the families of the victims, grants for hard-hit small businesses, and health care for front line workers at Ground Zero.
She is the first New Yorker ever to serve on the Senate Armed Services Committee.
She has visited troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in countless other locations, truly understanding the challenges facing our troops.
Hillary passed legislation to track the health status of our troops so that conditions like Gulf War Syndrome would no longer be misdiagnosed.
She is an original sponsor of legislation that expanded health benefits to members of the National Guard and Reserves and has been a strong critic of the Administration's handling of Iraq.
She has introduced legislation to tie Congressional salary increases to an increase in the minimum wage.
She has supported a variety of middle-class tax cuts, including marriage penalty relief, property tax relief, and reduction in the Alternative Minimum Tax, and supports fiscally responsible pay-as-you-go budget rules.
She helped pass legislation that encouraged investment to create jobs in struggling communities through the Renewal Communities program.
She authored legislation that has been enacted to improve quality and lower the cost of prescription drugs and to protect our food supply from bioterrorism.
She sponsored legislation to increase America's commitment to fighting the global HIV/AIDS crisis.
She has lead the fight for the expanded use of information technology in the health care system to decrease administrative costs, lower premiums, and reduce medical errors.
Clinton has successfully worked to ensure the safety of prescription drugs for children, with legislation now included in the Best Pharmaceuticals for Children Act.

She has also proposed expanding access to child care.

She has passed legislation that will bring more qualified teachers into classrooms and more outstanding principals to lead our schools.
Hillary is one of the original cosponsors of the Prevention First Act to increase access to family planning.
She fought with the Bush Administration and ensured that Plan B, an emergency contraceptive, will be available to millions of American women and will reduce the need for abortions.
She introduced the Count Every Vote Act of 2005 to ensure better protection of votes and to ensure that every vote is counted.

In poker, no saying can be more true then,

"You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em!"

I respect someone with principals and acute understanding of the situation that they are in.

Stubbornness has it's place except when it is self-serving. This especially the case in politics.

Ok Cortez, I know you're just messing with us now, You don't really believe the CIC test is a booklet like the college SAT's OMG, please tell me you're kidding.

Could you say specifically what Hillary has accomplished i.e raise the status of Arkansas in education from 49th to 39th by changing policies such as ...........

I really would like to hear exactly what she has done - things that aren't disputed by others who were also involved like the Irish peace claims. I'm sure there must be some successes, I just don't know what they are.

Do any of the Hillary supporters have the test questions for CIC Test(commander-in-chief test mentioned by that moron Howard Wolfson and hillary). We want to know first whether Hillary has the IQ to pass any of that test without cheating?

SuzieQ. I appreciate someone who tried and doesn't quit or give up. Hillary's accomplishments outweigh her failures. Mr. Obama hasn't made many mistakes because quite honestly, he really hasn't done very much in his Senate job, well, except run for President. I admire Hillary for working hard every day of her life for the American people.

I think Hillary deserves credit for failing on her number one priority which was to revamp heath care and we're all lucky she did fail because her plan would have destroyed our health care system.

She also deserves credit for blowing her inevitable nomination and a huge stash of other people's money. Apparently she was stunned to find out the campaign was broke despite getting weekly emails detailing the campaign's financial status.

She also deserves credit for talking her husband out of settling with Paula Jones - which led to Bill's impeachment.

And of course, it was Al Gore's fault, hot Hillary's that she didn't even come close to delivering on her campaign promise to provide 200k jobs for NY.

Hillary does have a lot of experience and I hope the majority have the good sense to take a look at it.