Political Punch

Remember the millenia
Who could stop the bush mania?

That folksy guy, we identify.
Poor Gore, an educated bore.
Who cares if Bush swerved
While Gore served.

And now its Obama who
captures the drama.
Inspite of the wrong ilk of Wright,
It might be a bond of bilk and bite.

When disarmed by charm,
Or admiring the armed.
Mc Cain may bring more pain,
Hidden in Bush was fight
Bilk and bite.
If bite is in Obama,
We might repeat the trauma.

I am interested in anyones opinion re Wright and/or Wrong. We leave the issue alone, uninvestigated to the fullest depths, at our own peril. Like a tumor, saying it is "benign" without a complete "biopsy" is ridiculous.

Google RNA Trinity Church Wright. Make your own decision as to how deep the Wright/Trinity "separatism" thing goes, and then ask why the press is not "Googling" more? If we can, they certainly can! The Rna aspect has never even been mentioned, to my knowledge

Wright does not come close to representing the views of the vast majority of African-Americans. But, he does apparently represent those of the Obama's, despite the denials. 20 years is full refutation to the denials. Separatists are just that. Dividers, any way you cut it. And are totally opposite to "uniters". Words do matter!

Hey Mickey (lol) If you want to pretend to be a Democrat and Hillary supporter you should at least TRY to avoid using the terms left and liberal. It's a dead giveaway. (lol) The Republicans must really think Hillary supporters and pretty dim huh?

The only thing that Obama's speeches have caused me to do is wonder why he has chosen to be a phony with all the potential he has. I think he sat for 20 years listening to the anti-American sermons and anti-white, jews he has figured out he best make some really good speeches and take from anyone else anything to cover up his history. I just wish the Democratic big wigs would get it through their heads that people will not vote for Obama because they don't trust him not because he is half white. Why should we trust him when we haven't ever trusted anyone else who has shown such unpatriotic habits and bigot inclinations. I think the big wigs suffer from gender bias because I know if Hillary had the same history there would be no way they would have allowed her to run.

The news media and the far left liberals have just closed their mind and have decided Country be damn, so what if Obama has lied, and hedged about his association. He makes a good talk about race (but he lived a life full of bigotry and hate) for 20 years he didn't turn a finger to bring about change in his Church or his pastor.

COUNTRY FIRST!

So I have a question. Obama's cousin in Kenya, a Muslim, ran for President and when he didn't win the massacre of the Christians started.

Since Obama thinks talking to those who have told us point blank that they intend to conquer us and dispose of our way of life...then maybe Obama can demonstrate how talking will work by calling his cousin.

solutions? our many politians have actually helped on the grassroot level? carter after his presidency did just that, bill clinton went after amassing wealth. hillary never did any grasroot work, she failed her first bar exams, (17yr old frank abagnale passed the louisiana bar exams, after studying for only a few weeks), she was employed at rose law firm after her husband became the governor or attorney general, his influence also got her on the walmart board,helped her get elected as a senator.
since she became senator, she voted for the war in iraq, voted on a resolution to use that could have given bush authorization to attack iran and start another war, because she thought it would make her more popular among jewish voters.
for the first time in american history obama has made race a topic that can be discussed constructively without scapegoating. instead the clintons have been trying to take advantage of racism for their own gains.

Dummies do as Dummies do.

All of the back beaters, lashing Obama as did the slave owners of past, Dummy is the only thing that come to mind.

It appears that those who would put McCain in office, must have the answer to:

What happen to 13 billion dollars in cash that was flew to Iraq, then disappeared.

They must have an answer to why 911 happen on the watch of a Republican President, Republican House, Republican Senate, Republican Judiciary.

They must have the answer to why more Americans lost their homes than any other Administration.

They must have the answer of why more Whites in this country have filed for bankruptcy than any other time since the Great depression.

If you can't put those pieces together and still put a Republican in office then you have not been beaten enough yet by the Republican Masters of the New World Order.

Obama offers Americans the chance to have a say so about it's future and the future of American's family. Not Gloom and Doom, but dummies do what dummies

I will never vote for Obama in the general. Never voted for the republican before, but there's always the first time i quess.

I can't stand his "eloquent" speaches and it's really pathetic to have a candidate who didn't win any of the big states except for his home state and on top of everything else, managed to block the vote in Florida and Michigan.

But if the dems want him, they can have him. Don't count for my vote though.

tomdavie, completely agree with the decision to vote mccain over obama being because mccain would be better for the country, not just a spite vote as the obamaites would like to portray it. personally, i can't stand obama, so my vote for anyone but him is based on my view of him, not others.

i do feel a need for some spite - i very much want dean, pelosi, kennedy, kerry, mccaskill, richardson, and several other party ruining snakes to lose their jobs. but it's not just spite - they deserve it for the mess they've made. and it's the only way for the party to get back on track.

@ June E. Porter

Do you still have the Bush-Cheney sticker on your car's bumper?

Obama is just a smooth talker. However, we want a president is who is a "doer" not a "talker". We need action not just speech.

Hillary, you are the ONE!!

The fact is apparent that Obama has so affectively opened the eyes, minds, and hearts of the American public that it would take either a deaf and blind, ignorant, or racist mind that would be unable to see through the smoke and mirrors. I would encourage those people who seemed to thrived and draw conclusions based on the use of the sound bites of Minister Wrights speech to examine the totality of this sermon after all it's is on line.

Obama is a joke.

He says he can communicate not only with our allies, but with our enemies as well.

How does he plan to do that if he can't even talk to Florida and Michigan's government to start a revote?

He can do it, but why doesn't he want to? It won't benefit him.

He sounds more and more like President Bush each day.

The issue about Wright has never been about race. It is about judgment. How could senator Obama associate himself with a person like Wright (whether black or white) for over 20 years, and involve him in major events of his life? If Obama didn't know Wright's controversial attitudes in 20 years, then that shows a lack of judgment too - the ability to judge people, which is critical in any leadership role.

Yes, we all know that that there is an under current of bias and prejudice in our society. But, by his speech, Obama cleverly disguised the true topic - judgment, or lack thereof.

Newt Gingrich is a great scholar. He's made his points on why it is worth considering being a conservative at this time of ours, in his (whole) speech. When the liberal's way does not work, a "consertive" way actually is a "liberal" direction to go. The wise do not get trapped in any ideologies. When it is dark, the wise direct you to the light. When it is too bright, the wise direct you to the shade.

@ moe

that's exactly why obama didn't live Wright, because he was scared of being attacked like oprah was (by wright).

Westie:

Here's your way to deal with the FL-MI debaucle.

Impeach both of the Governors, immediately.

Obama doesn't want to have a discourse/dialogue/conversation/insert your verb here....he wants just trying to save himself from going down in flames.

It's not everyday I agree with Newt Gingrich! Outstanding speech!

As elegant as Barack Obama speech was, challenging American to look at race. Sen. Obama's speech missed the target on two points. It's open up a dialog to address the race concerns. Dramatic lacked in putting forth real solutions for change. Which it's directly representative of the senator's campaign. Sen. Obama is a excellent speaker, without question. But doesn't offer progressive realistic solutions or experience to produce the change he speaks about.

Secondly, for me, Rev. Wright's many radical, divisive, racial comments was more of a mind set about being anti - American than racist. Sen. Obama never addressed that issue during his speech. Yet again, questioning the judgement of Sen. Obama's and his associations are a plague for his campaign. Creating serious concerns in the minds of voter... is Barack Obama a formable candidate to match John McCain?!

Minus the pundit's spin, the media hysteria, personal interests and opinions aside, democrats must answer this question. For myself, as difficult as it was to admit, the answer is NO. I have already voted for Barack. Respectfully, I would/could not support or vote for Barack in a general election.

@ Danny

Racist?

Obama has given me zero solutions and he is half black.

Hillary has given me solutions and she's a woman.

Solutions outweigh zero solutions.

Are you sexist, Danny?

Guys, I smell racist views here. No body talked about issues. What you all talk about is OBAMA the CHANGE man.

Bobby,
It's good to see somebody thinking about ways to solve the Florida/Michigan debacle. As far as I can tell Hillary Clinton has been the only candidate to speak out in favor of resolving this. Dean certainly doesn't look like he's doing his job.

I'd like to add another proposal to your list.

We can have the state level Democratic elected legislative politicians participate in a re-vote, selecting either Hillary or Obama or uncommitted or write-in, and then proportionately award the delegates accordingly. The superdelegates remain unchanged.

At least we would get some representation that is Democratic, and statewide, as opposed to disenfranchisement.

@ Danny

No.

He took his name off the ballot because he didn't have a chance in Michigan.

and in Florida his name was on the ballot and one of his commercials WAS airing.

to Surelock Homes
don't u think obana fellow the DNC rules

@ Surelock Homes

You think Obama or anyone in the tank for Obama would listen to anything to do with Florida and Michigan?

Bobby -- you're ideas should be aimed at Obama. Not us.

He's the reason there are no re-votes. He knows he's toast if those rich Florida votes are counted.

There is not a white america and a black america, there is just one america, but obama chooses to associate himself with a seperatist church and pastor. I do not take money from special interst groups or oil companies, but he has taken hundreds of thousands from oil co's and the nuclear co he claims he paseed a bill regulating mandatory reporting of problems, when the only change he made was noo change- voluntary reporting. I am not a typical politician, but he stopped a michigan revote because it might lead him to losing the popular vote, and his campaign is constantly feeding the compliant media negative attacks against Hillary Clinton, and now trying to force her out of the race because he wants the game to end while he is ahead. Talk about Tanya Harding, he is the won trying to knock her out of the competition. I will reach across the aisle with republicans, but his record does not show that and he was voted the most liberal senator in the senate. Is this a new kind of politician, change we can believe in? I think not. His words say one thing, but his actions say another. In fact it is reminiscent of another politician, Bush the uniter, not divider, who would reach across the aisle, and we saw the influence of his radical religious beliefs in his governing. Have we not learned better?

@ Sandy

Obama/Clinton can win, but Obama is inexperienced and the media has decided to be anti-hillary.

Of course Gingrich is promoting Obama. Without Obama, the Republicans do not stand a chance in November. They want Obama to become the nominee. Anyone who does not see that deserves another 4 yars of Republican rule. It is as simple as that. Folks, wake up and smell the roses before it is too late.

Wright fetish? I see. There needs to be one standard for judging religion in the lives of our candidates. Either Hillary Clinton and John McCain need to be brought up to this standard of scrutiny, or the subject must be dropped. I've seen no endless looping or loopy revisiting of controversial comments by Rod Parley, John Hagee, Tim ($$$) LaHaye, or Douglas Coe. So the standard is not the same. Put another way, I don't see why you still hear "Brown Sugar" or "Some Girls" by the Rolling Stones, or "Island Girl" by Elton John on the radio. Listen a little closer - you may not hear what I hear in those moneymakers.

McCain doesn't have a twenty year relationship with HAGEE like Obama does with WRIGHT!

Rev. Wright, Black Panthers, Tony Rezko,= Obama 2008!!

Kravitz,

What did Gingrich say about Bosnia?

Do you have your on discussion going here? Or are you merely trying to deflect attention from Obama and Wright?

did anyone on here listen to newt gingrich's speech...instead of just trashing obama

Newt (yes Newt Gingrich...that very smart republican)...gives kudos to obama and actually delves in to the solutions for the issues of poverty and race...

He agrees with much of Obama on specifics and disagrees on how to help... ...it is the solutions he wants to discuss and offers to work with him in this speech..

and you wonder why Obama is who we need as a President...when has Gingrich and Sen Clinton had an open debate on poverty ...when have you seen the two sides unite on a specific need in discussion ...
yes he disses much of the left...but he says in so many words Sen Obama nobly has opened this discussion...and engages him ...in a civil and constructive manner...

You want to know why we are where we are... it's because for 15 years we have not had that.

Better for all facts to come out now, than later. If there is more, it will come out and the Repulicans will be the ones to "bring it"! Anyone who does not recognize that the Rs always play full contact politics has their head in the sand!

And, contrary to an earlier poster attempting to lay a guilt trip on those who oppose Obama and Wright.

Wright "cast the first stone", while preaching in what has become a "glass church"!

Wright damned America, I won't.

Wright preached hate from a pulpit, I haven't.

Wright shouted profane and vulgar utterances from his pulpit. I didn't.

Obama sat through all of this for more than 20 years. I wouldn't!

Obama -- adding insult to injury:

Had the Reverend not retired, and had he not acknowledged that what he had said had deeply offended people and were inappropriate and mischaracterized what I believe is the greatness of this country, for all its flaws, then I wouldn't have felt comfortable staying at the church," Obama said Thursday during a taping of the ABC talk show "The View." The interview will be broadcast today. Obama said Wednesday he has spoken with Wright, who retired from Trinity United Church of Christ last month but remains as a senior pastor.

(The snake keeps slithering)

@ Irma

The saddest is part is....Barack Obama exaggerated about his COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP ROLE and he has never represented the United States in another country.

I am interested in anyones opinion re Wright and/or Wrong. We leave the issue alone, uninvestigated to the fullest depths, at our own peril. Like a tumor, saying it is "benign" without a complete "biopsy" is ridiculous.

Wright does not come close to representing the views of the vast majority of African-Americans. But, he does apparently represent those of the Obama's, despite the denials. 20 years is full refutation to the denials. Separatists are just that. Dividers, any way you cut it. And are totally opposite to "uniters". Words do matter!

Are people actually comparing Hillary's story of going to warzone Bosnia, where maybe she didn't need to duck her head, to the story about Obama and not knowing his mentor was a racist? Hmmmm...Hillary didn't have to duck her head in a war zone vs. Obama's mentor is a racist........I rather have the lady who didn't have to duck her head over the inner racist who masks his true feelings against his grandma well.

Kitty, I soooooo know what you mean!!

I would vote for Newtie before Obama. Now that's saying something.

@ John

If you are going to a PRO-HAMAS church you definitely should be out CHURCH SHOPPING.

John posted"

"I am not interested in having, in wallowing in a, lengthy conversation about race."
-Barack Obama,
ABC World News"

John, I love that!!!!!!

"I am not interested in having, in wallowing in a, lengthy conversation about race."
-Barack Obama,
ABC World News

Go Newt! Now I know why Obama wants Republicans on his team... I can see what's coming now... Truly a UNITED States of America. Obama has made a point of saying that some of his team will include everyone. Newt, are you part of that team??? Great speech...
Obama Rocks for Americans!

You may or may not like Gingrich, but his speech is mostly right. God helps those who first try to help themselves.

Stop Obama '08 | Mar 29, 2008 4:42:44 PM On a similar vein Hillary's deceits particularly her brave War zone trip!!!. Don't let up, inhale deeply and bury yourself in it. The air is about to exhaust though.

This is a fabulous speech my Gingrich. I encourage all to read it in full. While applauding Obama for opening a dialogue, he sharply contrasts his thinking and analysis. It is a very long speech so see for yourself. He talks of "bad culture and bad government." Rather than just opening up a dialogue, he presents a deep analysis of what is really wrong and suggests what real CHANGE entaials. He moves away from the past and instead looks to the future in the context of the present problems facing Americans. He acknowledges the historical context but in no way limits today's reality to that past.

Jake does not even touch on the most provocative statements. I do wonder why? Perhaps "provocative" is merely in the eyes of the beholder.

I think this show the republicans want to run ageist Obama. They know they have the ammunition now.

Turku Wren: I appreciate where you are coming from and your humour.

Hay Mr Stop Obama '08 | Mar 29, 2008 4:21:08 PM - AND YOUR MESSAGE OF HATE are becoming BORING!!!. Don't get stuck in the mud. People want to move on.

Winchesterlad: I'd like to return this gift from god and exchange it for Nader.

How appropriate for Ginrich to recognize that education is being attacked. We are taking away funds from schools who need it most. The person you need to be lecturing is GWBush! He screwed things up and he's on YOUR team.

I still believe that God loves America and he brought out Obama. Like him, hate him Obama is a gift to America. VOTE FOR HIM

i PARTICULARLY LIKED WHAT Posted by: gjkotw01 | Mar 29, 2008 4:01:42 PM wrote below.

Newt Gingrich? Seriously? lol

"....stop lynching people for being provocative and dramatic...."

and that's exactly how the republicans will win the white house.

(obama supporters trying to justify wright's godd-mn america sermon)

Petra and Griffin must be Obama supporters. They are the only ones to blow off smart, intelligent people so easily. Only Obama's words have meaning to them. I wish Gingrich were running on the Republican side. I am not sure I would vote for him but he has always been a man of profound ideas. His arguments have an intellectual honesty that is often lacking on the left. I think this speech was better than Obama's because it offers some solutions.

Newt is following Obama's lead to debate
issues of critical importance to the USA
Sometimes provocative speeches are critical in making us think. Blind patriotism in a country that prides in
free speech and dialogue only contribute
to disasters like the execution of the
war in Iraq. The damage that the war in Iraq has caused the nation is the
greatest damage an unpatriotic person can do and far greater than a pastor in a relatively small church that no one new about who is challenging the nation
to think and do some soul searching and penance for how America has treated innocent civilians in Japan during world war two or antagonized the South African by supporting apartheid or taken sides in the middle east. God bless America for free speech and the justified patriotism and stop lynching people for being provocative and dramatic. There is no justification for all Americans not to be given the basic needs of food clothing, shelter, justice, right to vote and free speech. It would be unpatriotic to expect anything less for your fellow Americans.

It was Gingrich and a republican congress who set policy and enacted laws that Bill Clinton now takes credit for. This may be a surprise to many who believe the president makes laws.

Newt Gingrich is former speaker of the house, Mrs. Pelosi's current job.

"I am not interested in having, in wallowing in a, lengthy conversation about race."
-Barack Obama,
ABC World News

If teachers, school boards and administrators aren't held accountable (and NOT by teaching to the test which is what Bush's appropriately named Left Behind Bill does) then how can our children learn? All this money and the results get worse? An uneducated nation based on a consumer economy that produces nothing is a recipe for unemployment and depression, reguardless of what politicans speeches may espouse to the masses.

Although I don't always agree with Newt Gingrich on all the issues, his thoughts on education deserve respect. As a nation, we should be willing to accept good ideas from both sides. I appreciate Newt's attempt to engage honestly with the issues that confront our nation. If Obama is serious about creating bipartisan coalitions on issues he will seize this speech and find ways to incorporate these ideas into his own platform.

I wonder what would happen if a white candidate went to a white fundamentalist church in Texas where its preacher made questionable comments on controversial issues about race. Would people in the media make excuses and praise that candidate for making damage control speeches? No tolerance !

Today is 2008

All are equal under the law.

Anyone choosing to live in the past, is their own personal preference.

They really need to grow up and live in the present. They need to take responsibility for their own lives.

They need to realize their black leaders and preachers have been keeping them enslaved preaching hatred, and anti American sentiment, and to live in the past., and want sympathy and pity, and everything handed to them.

They need to wake up, open their eyes and see the realities of 2008. Everyone has the same opportunities as the next guy. You have to take some responsibility for yourself. Get a education, get a job and earn your way though life, like the next guy. That is the way it is for each and everyone.

Thank God this is 2008 and we are not living in the past.

God Bless America

Love it or Leave it

1 Allegiance = 1 country

When Obama loses the general election because he is unelectable, I want Kerry Kennedy and Pelosi to resign for shoving Obama down our throats no matter what.

When they realize that 1/2 the voter turnout was due to clinton -not just all Obama - they may realize that the 'youth vote' and 'radical vote' is not going to cut it when the Clinton democrats vote for Mc Cain.

They are already trying to suggest somehow that we are 'bitter' or 'mad' or doing it for spite.

Wrong. We see Mc Cain as a BETTER alternative to Obama. It has nothing to do with spite.

Obama is an empty suit. He has attracted every single radical left wing element to his side. He spent the last 20 years in a racist anti american church, and simply makes speeches to say it isnt so .

We dont want Obama. Regardless if he is a 'democrat' .That doesnt make up for his inability to use good judgement or run the country.

I am encouraged that a prominent Rupublican has made such a thoughtful response to Senator Obama's speech. I don't agree with all of his positions and conclusions, but he is speaking with sincerity and with the intention to engage in a real dialogue. This is exactly what our country needs in order to begin to heal.

I am encouraged that a prominent Rupublican has made such a thoughtful response to Senator Obama's speech. I don't agree with all of his positions and conclusions, but he is speaking with sincerity and with the intention to engage in a real dialogue. This is exactly what our country needs in order to begin to heal.

I am angered by the fact that so many people are excusing Wright. It does not matter to me that it was 5 second snipets of an entire sermon. THE MAN STILL SAID THEM!!!

Griffin writes:
"Newt Gingrich? Does anyone actually care what that hypocritical nut case thinks?"
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Exactamundo.

As Ogden Nash suggested:

When called by a panther,
Don't anther.

I think the point he is trying to make is that there are a lot of groups who have a right to be angry with past or current injustice. One of the groups left out is women. Our female ancestors were treated as property, they weren't allowed to vote or own property themselves. They were denied an education. I am a life long democrat and Hillary supporter. I would have supported Hillary anyway but the fact she is a woman is a huge bonus. Until we get equal representation in government we will continue to earn 77 cents on a dollar and not have the opportunities that men have. Even though I get frustrated with the way things are, I am proud to be an American, I am proud of the progress that we have made and will continue to make. You will never hear me say GD America, nor will I have close associations with people who take advantage of all that is offered, then condemn the Country that has made it possible.

The trouble with Ginrich and the Republican Party is that they believe that businessmen are the true leaders and have all the solutions. They refuse to acknowledge that Business has one purpose, that is to maximize profit, and truly have no connection with Government, leadership, ethics, religion, personal beliefs, in short with people.

They believe that if somehow we , the government, stop taxes, we as a nation can survive. There view is comical, and makes no sense in the least.

Lower taxes and let our business leaders run rampant, dig into our pockets, wages, for every dime that we have. Yes things will be equal, sure, the problems we face in this nation will just magically blow away.

Pollution, energy, health care, war, disease, I feel the burden lifting already.

At least Newt admitted that Obama has opened the door to rediscuss race in America and also that the republican governement is a bad one re education, that is courageous, and needs to be applauded. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

Newt Gingrich? Does anyone actually care what that hypocritical nut case thinks?

I agree with Gingrich Education in the United States is a national security issue. I remember as a teen wondering why The inventors and Noble prize winner were mostly from another country

I'm just as interested in Gingrich's opinion as much as I'm interested in Obama"s.

Fact is, I'm not interested in any of Newt Gingrich's opinions.

Who is?