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Hillary Claims She "Spoke Out Against" NAFTA Starting in 1992
March 31, 2008 7:59 AM
Campaigning in Indiana on Friday, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, claimed to have been a 16-year vocal opponent of NAFTA.
"I spoke out against it starting in 1992 -- the president made a different decision," Clinton said. "I think now with 14 years of experience under our belt, we can see that in some parts of our country there have been, perhaps, some economic advantages, but in other parts of our country, like where we are right here in northwest Indiana, it hasn't worked as it was promised, and therefore I think we need to renegotiate it."
Given that Clinton was the headline attraction at a pro-NAFTA meeting in November 1993 and was praising NAFTA in public throughout the 90s, the claim seemed interesting. When was she "speaking out" against it?
Clinton campaign communications director Howard Wolfson says that Clinton argued against supporting NAFTA internally on the 1992 campaign before then-Gov. Bill Clinton decided to support it.
Would you consider that to be "speaking out against it"?
- jpt
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Wow that tirade about Obama lying is so full of lies it's insane. I couldn't find one case where it's not either misquoting Obama, coming to illogical conclusions about what he meant or just plain lying about the facts.
I suspect it's only one of many swift-boat attempts that mindlessly partisan ditto-head types are going to cut and paste without question or critical thought what so ever. (Sigh)
Posted by: sinistar | Apr 3, 2008 5:53:01 PM
I noticed a new piece where Hillary made a speach in 2005 to Asia about outsourcing and how America couldn't stop it so for them not to be concerned. I have an atty friend who is the same age as Hillary and remembers her unethical firing when she was on the Nixon Impeachment. Funny thing, files came up missing...does that sound familar? I also found it was the Clintons who spoke with Canada and the PM was trying to figure out how Obama got blamed for it. It is scary how her supporters are so adamant that the press and Obama are picking on her. If I do something wrong and get called on it, I figure it's my doing. I just for the life of me can't figure out how a grown woman could possibly think all the lies she has told wouldn't catch up to her. Come on!
Posted by: butterfly3344 | Apr 1, 2008 10:37:20 PM
She misspoke again. She mocks Obama for speaking well, but do we want a nominee who just misspeaks and misspeaks? Not me, I'll take my chances with Obama.
Posted by: Emmanuel Winner | Apr 1, 2008 1:29:04 PM
Jackie=Hillary
Posted by: Basquale | Apr 1, 2008 9:27:22 AM
Obama's House of Cards or Likely to be Scrubbed like Wright's Website
1.) I was conceived in Selma when my parents were marching for Civil Rights, you were born in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the 1 trip to Iraq , you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES. What about those present votes where everyone else voted up or down. .
17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.
32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn’t.
33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.
40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.
47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.
49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vain of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.
52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - LIAR, your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!
53.)I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you $625,000.
54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko ($150K) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.”
Posted by: Jackie | Apr 1, 2008 7:01:37 AM
We all know she publically supported it as the First Lady. It was her JOB to do so. There have been more than a few credible & not so, who recalled that she was PERSONALLY against it.
As to why she didn't oppose it... I'd tend to think she would have been the First Lady EVER to not promote the policy of the President on what was an important issue of the time. Like she has said, It was a new direction & much has been learned since & we need to renegoiate it.
If you watch & listen closely to that old video, you'll notice she answered in measured tones & the wording was such that she didn't need to lie. She said that trade was a good idea for the US. Well doh! She'll fix Nafta next year.
Stop picking on her for this stupid stuff. She's got so much better quality stuff to work with.
She's tough, that's why she'll be Madame President to you next Jan09.
I think the Obamaites must be tired tonight. Bosnia & Wright are a cancel each other & not the current issue anymore. Haven't got that yet?
No mention of Monica or oral sex tho, that's usually the fall-back for you guys.
Sheesh,this is really boring.lol
Posted by: Sophia | Apr 1, 2008 4:51:59 AM
HILLARY WILL LIE IF SHE BECOMES PRESIDENT. THATS A FACT. THE QUESTION IS HOW MANY LIES CAN ONE FAMILY TELL BEFORE PEOPLE CATCH ON. OH WELLL....LOOK AT BUSH HE HAS LIED FOR 8 YEARS AND NOONE HAS CALLED HIM ON IT OR IMPEACHED HIM...I GUESS ITS WHAT AMERICA LIKES....... LYERS! FIRST LYING THEN SUPPORTING NAFTA AND IF ALL OF THAT IS NOT BAD ENOUGH SHE WILL STEAL IT IF SHE CANT WIN.....BUSH TACTIC!
Posted by: hillary | Mar 31, 2008 3:41:43 PM
NAFTA must be an issue in IND primary, but I thought it came out in her white house schedule she was pro NAFTA, saying you spoke out against it privately does not carry no weight as attending pro NAFTA meetings. You can chalk this one up there witn the sniper fire in Bosnia then, poor woman.
Posted by: merle7 | Mar 31, 2008 1:29:31 PM
Obama lies
Kennedy's brought his father over from Africa.
The story about the boy who tried to lighten his skin.
The fact that his parents met at the Selma march (the march happend 4 years after Obama was born)
Several lies about how much money he actually received from Rezko.
The biggest whopper of all: I never heard those things my preacher said!!!!
Posted by: Firefighter | Mar 31, 2008 1:25:02 PM
The NYPost reports:
"The Bosnian girl who famously read a poem to Hillary Rodham Clinton during her 1996 visit to the war-torn country is shocked - and her countrymen infuriated - that the former first lady claimed to have dodged sniper fire that day.
Emina Bicakcic, now 20 and studying to become a doctor, told The Post she stood on the tarmac at the air base in Tuzla, greeted Clinton and even had time to share the lines of verse she'd written - all without fear of attack from an unseen enemy. "
Posted by: greg | Mar 31, 2008 12:11:43 PM
Now the internets are buzzin about Ol'Hill stiffing her campaign employees health insurance bills.
Man, how you going to mandate healthcare for all while you are sticking it to your employees?
Posted by: The Commander Guy | Mar 31, 2008 11:38:02 AM
Bill Clinton is right when he said "Pennslyvania can shut down her down and end her run", and for a Democrat who wants to see a Democrat in office, I WISH THEY WOULD.
Posted by: latinovoter1 | Mar 31, 2008 11:37:19 AM
See evertime i argue with a hillary supporter here comes a mccain supporter proving why either on is better then him. BARAK IS NOT ELECTABLE.....? TELL THAT TO THE ALMOST 20 MILLION PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR HIM AND tens of millions of dollars every month from people not big bizz. while mccain is making about 5 million a month.laughable.
DONT VOTE McCAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: point made | Mar 31, 2008 11:12:04 AM
jim: I see your logic it is who lie is the most recent! Now that is sound logic! I see lying has become and account principle (LLIFLO)Last Lie IN First LIE OUT! What a concept!
Posted by: russell | Mar 31, 2008 11:07:56 AM
Stealing is "hiding" your associations and beleifs until after people have voted. I've heard that there is tremedous buyers remorse. They've been bamboozled and hoodwink!
BARACK IS NOT ELECTABLE.....
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Mar 31, 2008 11:04:08 AM
jim: So what's all the whining about! Let the people vote!
Posted by: russell | Mar 31, 2008 10:59:20 AM
OKAY SORRY. I MEANT ALMOST 15 YEARS. Tell me something in comparison to being impeached. So let me get this correct, Nixons wife could be our 43rd president. after all it was only the guy she was laying in bed with that screwed our country. So Bill lying is not important. Married couples dont have similiar thoughts. you dont think hillary knew bill was lying to the american and congress? sure! If your trying to sound smart. you dont.
Posted by: wow | Mar 31, 2008 10:58:48 AM
Know what,
Actually, I've seen both figures printed by MSM so I am not absolutly sure. The point is, neither candidate can hit that number without supers.
So the beat goes on........It's funny though, as the race seems to be heading in favor of Hillary in upcoming states, I'm sensing some panic in the Obama circles. Why is that?
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Mar 31, 2008 10:58:03 AM
Happy: Only Obama supporters would say that there are degress of lying! Come on face reality your guy lies too!
Heres another one: He said from the begining that he never asked Rezko for any advice before he bought his house,now he admits that not only did he ask him about the property but that he took him on a tour of it,knowing that he was an indicted felon!
He has always maintained that he only got 150,000 dollars from Rezko, but now he says he got 250,000 and not all of it has been accounted for!
Posted by: russell | Mar 31, 2008 10:57:32 AM
Commander Guy: "Dreams From MY Father" was written by Mr. Obama himself and it was published in 1995. I would hardly call that the 60's. Forgive me for asking you to do a little research and do something as radical as read! I thought Obama supporters were highly educated when compared to Hillary's supporters, sorry for the mistake!
Posted by: russell | Mar 31, 2008 10:51:27 AM
ITS 2024 DELEGATES MR. SMARTGUY! If your going to educate you must know what your talking about.
Posted by: know what | Mar 31, 2008 10:48:15 AM
jim: The answer is no! You know that if Hillary were seen as trying to push a black man out of the race, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be in the streets complaing! Gov. Wilder on CNN said that if the Superdelegates gave it to Hillary even if she had the popular vote there would be rioting in the streets worse than 1968. Sounds like a threat to me!
Posted by: russell | Mar 31, 2008 10:47:08 AM
If you have to go back over a year to find a meaningless uplifting story about Obama lying. I would think it would have to do with something more meaningful say like lying to congress, or lying about your foreign knowledge. Call me crazy but Lying about what color cookie you took and lying about taking the cookie is two diffrent things.
Posted by: happy | Mar 31, 2008 10:45:51 AM
The Commander Guy: Now what do you think about Obama's lie about his racial awakening! He said that when he was 9yrs old his mother took him to a library in Indonesia where she took him to live,and there one day he said that he saw an articel in Life magazine about a little black boy who had disfigured himself with chemicals in order to lighten his skin. He said that when he looked at the picture his face got red and hot and he felt the heat of those chemical just like it had happend to him! Well that is a great story but there is one problem it never happened. When confronted with the fact that Life had never run such a story he told the Chicago Tribune that it was in Ebony,again no such story by them. So you see he needed a good story to explain his so called racia awakening so he just made one up! If your read more of his book "Dreams From My Father" you will find more of his lies, so don't take my word take his!
The Washington Post had a story this weekend about how he and the Kennedy's were responsibe for his father comming to America is a lie too!
Posted by: russell | Mar 31, 2008 10:38:11 AM
"Jesus like" is that your way of making your dumb logic make sense to you? If any1 says any person is "Jesus like" is a idiot. People are talking about his pastor, talk about him and not some media story say something factual. Hillary's lies and deception is factnot assumption. But like evrything else people like you are not smart enough to know when your being duped.let me guess you voted for bush, and the war is going great too ha? lmao
Posted by: roger | Mar 31, 2008 10:34:05 AM
Hillary in 2007: NAFTA we HAFTA ... we HAFTA have NAFTA.
Hillary in 2008: Shame. Shame on you NAFTA. Shame on you. Meet me in PA, NAFTA and we'll have a debate about you and the bad things you do, NAFTA. Shame.
Hillary in 2009: NAFTA we HAFTA ... we HAFTA have NAFTA.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | Mar 31, 2008 10:32:53 AM
I'm guessing the Jesse Jackson comment is a black thing? Why not bring up romney or huckabee. Jesse Jackson is a terrible example. Thats like comparing Jesse Jackson to Ralph Nader. I mean they both had the same amount of popular voters. The same idiots that are saying to pick the best candidate are only voting for hillary because of her husband not. Is 1st ladie a requirement for president because thats all hillary was: A 1ST LADY!
Posted by: sarah | Mar 31, 2008 10:29:42 AM
Roger: If Obama is Jesus like you guys say why has he not been able to win the required number of delegates to be declared the nominee. I don't think that the spread of less than 200 delegates and having less than 1% lead in popular vote (excluding FL and MI)is what I would call a blowout! Given all his superiority in Money outspending her 3to1 and 4to1 in TX and Oh she still won, the same will be true in PA. The truth is that to win Mr. Obama won't be able to do it on his own he will still need to use affrimative action to get across the finish line! What does that say about how strong he is!
Posted by: russell | Mar 31, 2008 10:27:30 AM
It is refreshing to see the Hillary Fans saying that it's OK to Lie. And not only that, they imply skill at lying makes one a better politician.
But at the same time the HillFans can't be happy about Hillary going one Bosnian Bridge Too Far. And they can't be too happy that Ol'Hills has been exposed as supporting NAFTA in the odd numbered years while being starkly against NAFTA in the even numbered years.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | Mar 31, 2008 10:26:39 AM
ITS NOT ABOUT CHEATING ON YOUR WIFE .ITS ABOUT BEING IMPEACHED FOR LYING.OMG!! The writing is on the wall..no matter what hillary has done the point is she is LOSING and can not win mathmatically.
Posted by: tom | Mar 31, 2008 10:21:26 AM
Tony: No one ever tried to force Jesse Jackson out! Like Jesse says it ain't over till it's over, then it ain't over! So saddle up!
Posted by: russell | Mar 31, 2008 10:21:10 AM
OMG!!!!! Did everone forget Bill Clinton was impeached for lying? Exactly what Hillary did on the Bosnia story. lie until you get caught then lie somemore. What can Hillary do that her husband didnt? And if Hillary is the best candidate why is she losing in every stat? If you truely vote for the best candidate, it has to be a new family. The previous 2 families have not done anything. HELLOOOOO PEOPLE!
Posted by: roger | Mar 31, 2008 10:18:38 AM
HOW PATHETIC! If Hillary was winnning in the popular vote and delegates and states she would be asking Obama to step out too. Entitlement is whats going on here. She realizes shes going to lose so she starts the political games instead of saying the obvious. Obama is "suppose" to win regardless of the rest of states. Mathmatically impossible. GET OVER THAT!!!!!
Posted by: tony | Mar 31, 2008 10:14:58 AM
firefighter: I heard that!
Posted by: russell | Mar 31, 2008 10:14:48 AM
I think if everyone put aside their self righteousness and voted for the best candidate they would vote for Hillary. The biggest issue facing the country besides the war is the economy. There is no argument that Hillary knows policy, she is tough and will do what it takes to make the country prosperous for everyone. Also, stop blaming Hillary for Bill's infidelity. How many women out there have been cheated on? Are you responsible for letting it happen? How many men can say they NEVER cheated? Get off the soap box and lets get this country back to something we can be proud of!
Posted by: Firefighter | Mar 31, 2008 10:11:52 AM
Hillary is a frraud. She cares about herself.Would she be saying all that nonsense about letting everyone vote..How pathetic, the only way to win is to do a G.W. Bush. STEAL IT! She is losing in delegates and states and popular vote need I say more.
Posted by: anthony | Mar 31, 2008 10:09:19 AM
John wrote: "hillary is a liar"
John:
So is Obama and so is McCain
get over it.
Posted by: LB | Mar 31, 2008 10:08:31 AM
SoSad: Obama tells the people of Ohio that he would scrap NAFTA then tells the Canadians that he was just saying it to get elected! I know Obama doesn't lie no thats to common for him what he does is use "verbal camouflage"! Now doesn't that sound much better!
Posted by: russell | Mar 31, 2008 10:03:06 AM
NAFTA
Hillary wasn't against NAFTA, it's fully known. If she was and didn't speak out with conviction, than she was a yesman!
Economics
Secondly, she can't pay off her campaign debt in a timely manner...How in the or why in the world would we want her to tackle our Economy.
Foreign Policy
She flat out lied...No other way of saying it! She wanted to boast her experience and she flat out and made a Blatant Lie. Even my kids figured that out! My son in the heat of excitement during a school activity said "sc*** Y**" and tried to get out of it by telling the teacher he said something different. Then he said he mispoke The pricipal called me and told me he was getting detention because he lied. I said yep you did and your punishment fair.
Posted by: BigBusiness | Mar 31, 2008 10:02:58 AM
The Commander Guty: Sounds like John Kerry?
Posted by: russell | Mar 31, 2008 9:57:41 AM
Democrats were elected two years ago on the promise that they would stop the war, well the last time I checked we were still there! You see there is a difference between rehtoric and reality,when the Democrats promised to end the war they knew that there was only one way for congress to stop a war and that is to use the power of the purse! If they cut the money then there would be no way for Bush to continue, but you see that at on every vote to cut funding they could not even get their own members to do what they promised the americian people that they would do. Thats why their approval rating is as low as Bush.
Ms Power was saying the same thing to the British when she said that Obama's plan to get out of Iraq in 16mo. is a campaign strategy not necessarily a military strategy and things might change if he is elected. Well what she is saying that even with a Democratic controlled congress and White Housse we still won't be able to stop the war!
Posted by: russell | Mar 31, 2008 9:55:46 AM
Sounds like NAFTA is going to be another Bosnia for Hillary...Ooopps!
Posted by: Suzanne | Mar 31, 2008 9:51:37 AM
So she was against NAFTA before she was for NAFTA? But now she is against NAFTA again?
Sounds like Hillary has a Romney Problem going here.
She's against NAFTA in even years, but in favor of NAFTA in the odd numbered years.
NAFTA we HAFTA. we HAFTA pass NAFTA.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | Mar 31, 2008 9:45:04 AM
Bill and Hillary are the worst kind of Boomers: the kind that got greedy and learned too well to dress that up in idealism. Lie to me with a smile on your face and bet that I cannot see through it?! Not on your life, Mrs Clinton! I have a long memory, especially for politics. Reagan was no saint, Bush the 1st was no genius, Bill Clinton was no liberal savior, and Hillary won't be either!
Posted by: Alunaj9 | Mar 31, 2008 9:44:47 AM
Hillary refuses to pay the bills to the poor small business owners who helped to put up her campaign events in Ohio. She is like all those endless talk, talk, talk types who spend a lot but then refuse to pay the bills. I am a woman, and I cannot stand her types. Besides she lies always. Last week it was Bosnia lie and now NAFTA lie. She is a liar, just like her husband, and it runs deep in Clinton family.
Posted by: sosad | Mar 31, 2008 9:43:58 AM
dl: Being an Obama supporter means never having to say your wrong or sorry!
Posted by: russell | Mar 31, 2008 9:43:51 AM
I really believe that Hillary and husband Bill subscribe to the George Costanza view of the truth...It's not a lie, if you believe it." They never cease to amaze me...
Posted by: raldolfan@aol.com | Mar 31, 2008 9:36:37 AM
Nope...just more of Clinton lying to the public if what she says is true..which using Hillary and truth in the same sentence is akin to using Hitler and world peace in the same sentence. She either lied then or she is lying now....America can take their choice but either way? She's a liar.
Posted by: Sam | Mar 31, 2008 9:36:17 AM
Clinton has always said she had reservations about NAFTA, but she wasn't in charge of making the decision and she supported her husbands decision. It's a 15 year old policy that doesn't work well for the USA. She has said that she would bring this policy back to the table and renegotiate the core issues so that it would be a more level playing field. I beleive she said she would accomplish this within 90 days. As someone who has been shut out of Canada and Mexico, I welcome this. At least she isn't telling the US one thing and telling Canadian officals another like BO.
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Mar 31, 2008 9:33:41 AM
Yes, Hilary wanted to speak against NAFTA when she was alone with Bill in the bedroom. But that cheater was never there. Howard Wolfson is the nuttiest, sleazy crook in the campaign only to be outdone by Mark Penn. Why do these Clintons reek everyday of lies, misstatements, corruptions, and mean characterless behavior? Enough, put a stop to them and their stupid campaign!!!
Posted by: Pete | Mar 31, 2008 9:30:11 AM
Shea, Hilly voted to send us into war along with many others,you can not fund this war and let our men and women be there with nothing.You are a nut case>>>>I would like to send you over there and let you wonder if you are going to get the things you need to keep you alive or even eat.Maybe that would smarten you up but I doubt it.Hilly has lied from day one and she always will.You see she thinks we owe her this she has waited for 8 years and no way is she giving up. She takes credit for all the good things hubby did and not the bad,She stayed with him (all the ladies gives her credit) she did this only for,if she got nailed for white water he could PARDON for the BIG hand she played in this land deal.She isnot stupid but she sure has suckered many int o thinking hse is the right one for this country...Hopefully they will open their eyes here soon.....
Posted by: h | Mar 31, 2008 9:24:08 AM
Does she offer any proof of this "speaking out"? Or are we just supposed to trust her that she did... like we trusted her that she was dodging sniper bullets...
Posted by: Rob, Indianapolis | Mar 31, 2008 9:22:16 AM
The Clintons should read the bible more.
"Thou shalt not lie"
I wonder how many Pinocchios she'll be given for this one?
Posted by: Juanita | Mar 31, 2008 9:21:01 AM
Nope!
Obama 2008 -- Yes, WE CAN!!!
And, Steve, you're an idiot!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 | Mar 31, 2008 9:03:47 AM
"Obama’s lawyers successfully prevented re-votes in Florida and Michigan. That means it would be virtually impossible for Clinton to take a lead in either elected delegates or total primary votes."
Posted by: scathinglybrilliant | Mar 31, 2008 8:57:47 AM
Seah: The votes that Obama cast for the funding of the war were made to SUPPORT THE TROOPS that were already in Iraq. He was outspokenly against the war in the first place but once our young men and women were already there he felt he needed to support them via funding. How would it have looked if he had denied them the funds that were at least SUPPOSED TO (but ultimately didn't) equip them with the proper vehicles and armor...Obama did the right thing. His vote to fund the war was only to protect our kids. As it turned out, millions of dollars have been "lost" (yeah, right) and our troops have STILL not been equipped properly.
Posted by: Brenna | Mar 31, 2008 8:56:19 AM
Since there's no video, she's free to continue arguing that in this case the snipers were there.
While she's at it, she should also tell everyone that she secretly argued for sending troops into Rwanda to stop the genocide. Oh, wait...
Posted by: Tungsten | Mar 31, 2008 8:47:04 AM
She always supported the idea of NAFTA. The reason she keeps saying she didn't is because she wanted her Healthcare plan pushed BEFORE NAFTA. She always supported the principles of NAFTA, just not the timing. And now she is trying to turn that into to saying she did not support it. Splitting hairs.
Posted by: DJShay | Mar 31, 2008 8:45:46 AM
Obama was against the war, wanted to stop it abruptly.
He voted to continue funding the war!!!!
With out funding the war could not go on So that makes him a present day Hypocrite
A vote for America is a vote against Obama.
Posted by: seah | Mar 31, 2008 8:32:38 AM
This is like Obama being against the war, but NEVER doing anything in the Senate to stop it.
Posted by: Bobby | Mar 31, 2008 8:11:41 AM
She is now well reported that her "opposition" had more to do with it stepping on the order of her own healthcare program.
Over and over people have said she was not a fan privately ...
...but not because of the policy necessarily, all I have heard is that it got in the way of the fact that she wanted her committee to be the focus first.
Just repeating what has been said, am I wrong?
Posted by: dl | Mar 31, 2008 8:08:31 AM
hillary is aliar
Posted by: john | Mar 31, 2008 8:07:19 AM
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