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You need to be from New York to know the facts about Hillary. She PERSONALLY obtained for Indian Nationals WORK VISAS so India could import workers to New York State to take IT jobs that she PROMISED to upstate New Yorker's through TATA Corp. She obtained THOUSDANDS of work and student visas for India Nationals AND worked to help India through Cisco Systems, who paid Bill Clinton a couple hundred thousand for speeches, AND donated to both Bill Clinton's Presidential campaign AND Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign, to SHIP OVERSEAS jobs, therefore leaving thousands of US citizens out of work. Hillary Clinton has with her own actions decimated job opportunities for IT Professionals in New York State. And that is just ONE example of how her actions about "outsourcing" jobs have hurt US workers, most specifically New York residents. She won her Senate seat on the promise she would help the depressed northern part of New York State with jobs, yet can only point to 10 JOBS for Syracuse! And while we are at it, she puts on that fake concern for the needs of low-income and middle class, yet her campaign has not paid the health insurance premiums of her paid staff, leaving them WITHOUT health insurance. Talk about saying one thing and doing another. You should talk to residents of New York State to actually KNOW what Senator Clinton has done in her actions, not what she says.

Now we have new news about Bill Clinton's ties to Yahoo China who are assisting China in posting warnings to those who engage in support of Tibet. Do a search on Bill Clinton/China Yahoo and you will see for yourself.

Bill Clinton made hundreds of thousands of dollars giving speeches in China and the Clinton's ties with China go deep, yet again Hillary says one thing and does another by calling on President Bush to boycott the olympics opening ceremony because of their actions in Tibet, yet her own husband makes MONEY from a company engaged in censorship of Tibetan citizens.

Let's say it like it is. Hillary Clinton is a liar!

Hillary doesn’t seem to realize that we are not all fools and some of us do remember what the Clintons were up to back then. She not only supported and promoted NAFTA, she dropped the health care program she was working on to do so. I am so tired of the media covering statements that Obama made that were innocent and being blown out of proportion. I knew it was coming though. The media witch-hunt of Obama before another state votes. Funny how real problems like Hillary flat out lies about Bosnia, her husbands dealing with Columbia and her lies about Nafta have taken a back seat once again. Happens every time!

I think people are also forgetting that Clinton is "undecided" yet supports part of the deal that provides free trade with Peru. Isn't that under NAFTA?

Personally, I am ignoring what "relevance" any of the U.S networks are spewing out on any of the candidates. I follow the BBC and Foriegn coverage. I am basing my vote on real smart concrete options. 1) Hilary is a Clinton and she didn't throw bill out when he used the oval office for his own pleasure. Granted I as a christian forgive bill for the act ; but in the oval office ? Next comes Mcclain, while I think he has the right credentials as far as military, his age and some of his physical problems could become a problem, so for me to accept him - he would have to have a GREAT VP and if he chose Huckabee then I could per chance accept him. This leaves Obama - maybe he isnt the best and we do know that none of the three candidates has been Presiident so they all are first timers. But Obama is younger and could get the appropriate people in place so that we could finally have a government of the people, by the people and for the people. so while yes my vote is under my choice and may not be the best advised but isnt that why America was formed ????

i m pretty much sure "HILLARY CLINTON" will win in this election. You will see soon!!!!!
God bless America!

well I believe the media play a big role in this campaigns , the media didn't focus on the main issues , Clinton made it clear she supported NAFTA and she attended many meeting to push the deal a head
so why she change her mind
to gain political achievement even if she have to lie
why she didn't ell the truth

well I believe the media play a big role in this campaigns , the media didn't focus on the main issues , Clinton made it clear she supported NAFTA and she attended many meeting to push the deal a head
so why she change her mind
to gain political achievement even if she have to lie
why she didn't ell the truth

Oh Yeah........
Hillary also secretly opposed Bush's war with Iraq while she dotted her I's and crossed the T's ?

Veronica,,,
First wives go along with everything the husbands say?......Is this the gender card? Why cant Obama go along with Wright and secretly disagree?

Say what you want about NAFTA and Hillary's stances on it now, and in the 1990s. She just can't admit she is ever, or was ever for that matter, wrong about anything. Regardless of your personal stance on the Iraq War, Hillary can't admit she made a mistake when supporting it even though she now blatantly opposes this War which she initially supported. Her views seem to change like the wind blows, or more precisely when the polls come in. She can't even say that she was wrong when she changes her opinion. In my opinion she doesn't have many real convictions, but changes the majority of them when convenient so she can obtain political office.

Can I respectfully suggest that people not use caps in their posts. Not only is it rude (is comes across as shouting) but it also detracts from your arguements as it suggests you don't have the conviction that your words alone will convince. Thanks!

AS IS OFTEN TRUE OF OBAMA, HE'S SPOKEN BOTH FOR AND, AT A DIFFERENT TIME, AGAINST NEARLY EVERY BILL OR ISSUE THAT HE ACCUSES CLINTON OF HAVING BEEN MISTAKEN ABOUT. THIS IS TRUE OF NAFTA
BOTH OBAMA & CLINTON HAVE PRAISED NAFTA AT SOME POINT, & IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, OBAMA VOTED FOR & SUPPORTED AN EXTENSION OF NAFTA FOR PUERTO RICO, SO HIS ACCUSATIONS AGAINST CLINTON ARE HYPOCRITICAL. HILLARY'S STANCE RE NAFTA: BIOGRAPHERS CONFIRM THAT SHE SPOKE AGAINST IT TO BILL REPEATEDLY WHILE IT WAS BEING CONSIDERED. AS FIRST LADY SHE NATURALLY HAD TO SUPPORT BILL'S DECISION PUBLICLY.
AND ACTUALLY FOR SOME U.S. STATES NAFTA HAS ACHIEVED THE INTENDED GOOD RESULTS. FOR OTHER STATES IT BACKFIRED & NEEDS TO BE RENEGOTIATED.

Let's be fair, how many First Ladies do you know that spoke out against policies that their husbands were supporting. I have read numerous articles that Hillary was not completely sold on NAFTA, but promoted it because of Bill. At the time, noone knew how awful it would become. I believe David Gergen and others that have indicated that Hillary was a behind the scene critic. If Obama is selected, do you think Michelle Obama will openly critize policies that her husband supports. This is a part of being a Presidents spouse.

Ohhhhh I'm just so mad at these comments and that article. Say what you will about her, she takes it all. She says she helped to bring peace in Ireland and you say, well she was just the little women having teas, These damn teas and other "woman jobs" make a difference in our politics and our history. Just because a wifes efforts and her name doesn't get listed in the history books doesn't mean mean there haven't been a vast number of presidents wives who didn't affect policy.

And another thing, wasn't NAFTA something they inherited from Bush senior. Didn't he start the process and then they came into office. At the time, it was what needed to happen. NAFTA was good for us in the beginning, opening up markets, prosperity remember. Long term, we have some major growing pains. We couldn't expect globialization to always be in our favor. We have to adjust. Now, it can be fixed.

Let's put this is context shall we. Ms. Clinton was a political WIFE. The Presidents wife. All last week you were asking how could Mrs. Spitzer and the other wives stand by and be humiliated like that. Well guess what, It's part of the power wife job.
In addition, at the time people were harping at her all the time, she's doing to much, she's pushy, etc. She wanted her heath care. She's a very good, stand by her man wife, and an excellent cross the isle politician.
So she says her piece in private, like a good little wife, loses the battle, puts on her best smile and sells it like she has to. What did you expect her to do. You are judging her past here like she had real power, and then last week she is being belittled for saying she did anything when all she did was have wife teas. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS.
She did her job. Sometimes you don't get it your way, you have to compromise, you have to be a wife and sell the women. That was her job at the time. It does not take away from what she may or may not have said to policy people behind closed doors.
She wanted Health Care, remember. If helping pass what was going to happen anway, that's just what a political wifey does. If she hadn't you all would have attacked her for that.
Today, of all days you will say these things without even looking at the position she was in? What's the major story running today on those papers at CNN? I'll tell you...that Bill was downstairs gettin busy while she was there upstairs. How friggin fair is that? This role today is a different role than then. She has feelings though. Jeez you people are heartless!!!!!!!!

That's why I supported Barack, when I saw Edwards wasn't picking up traction or voters. I wish they Obama and Edwards would ticket up. DC, here We the People come.

Depends what your definition of 'sincere' is.

This just proves that the Democrats do not have a good grasp of reality. NAFTA was all the rage back in the 1990's. All you Demos were for it. Who would be stupid enough not to know that exporting our jobs would be BAD for us?

to Sarah: Good point, but Hillary didn't admit that she changes her mind. On the contrary, she claims to be right since "day one" on any issue. (probably since her day of birth) Her weakness is her pride.
Obama quite often commits faults and errors, and thats one of his strengths. Hillary wants to show consistency. Well to me she just acts consistently selfish.

Hillary lied and won Ohio based on insincere comments and a dishonest attack on Obama about NAFTA. She delayed releasing her records until now in order to hide it.

She is a fraud for this and needs to apologize for her dishonesty. She held at least 5 events aggressively pushing NAFTA as a good thing. Now she's claiming Obama is personally attacking her when he points out this gulf between her words and her deeds. Uh?

Obama lied to us. His judgement is not the judgement for a President of the United States of America. My goodness people Senator Obama should be a preacher like his friend or a professor!! Or else go back to being a crooked lawyer. On my Grandfathers World War II grave I will not vote for him. We love America. We don't God Damn America.

Jose - I see you will vote for Mccain if Hillary is not the nominee. Which means you will continue to sell oranges on the street corners for the next 4 years. Do not be that stupid. America can not stay in Iraq or take another 4 years of George Bush.

Clinton fans....continue to deny your candidate is a liar. Your spin will not work...all you've done is cost the Democratic Party the General Election in November. Senator Clinton should have withdrawn months ago.
fake clinton if clinton is the nomenie me and my whole family from my father to my cousins will vote for mccain.thief

Mary,
I think maybe you were trying to make a point but it was lost in a lot of nonsense.

Hillary secrets ahve finally been uncovered. Let's see if the media will play this for 7 days like they have the Rev.Wright video! Hillary is a Lair, that simple!

Barack Obama lumping Geraldine Ferraro in with his controversial pastor. LET ME TELL YOU WHY..
In his speech, Obama drew a comparison between the two individuals.

“We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro, in the aftermath of her recent statements, as harboring some deep-seated racial bias,” he said.

Geraldine Ferraro cooment of Obama was: "Obama wouldn’t be where he is if he were white"
What is racial about this??
What this man is doing is he is spewing that stuff out to young people, and to younger people than Obama, and putting it in their heads that it’s OK to say ‘God damn America’ and it’s OK to beat up on white people, You don’t preach that from the pulpit.

This is the first time I've heard a Democrat refer to FoxNews as fair and impartial.

Wow, you really are uninformed.

Clinton fans....continue to deny your candidate is a liar. Your spin will not work...all you've done is cost the Democratic Party the General Election in November. Senator Clinton should have withdrawn months ago.

FactCheck 2,
Please point out an example of how Obama's relationship with Rezko violated the public trust in any way. That's the big gaping hole in the story which is why no one is covering it. Also, Obama cleared the air on this issue with the Tribune and the Sun-Times (as the Tribune itself stated) a week ago. Keep chasing those rainbows though...

BILL,
LET ME GUESS, YOU WATCH CNN OR MSNBC THAT IS IN THE TANK WITH OBAMA. FOX NEWS HAS THE MOST RATINGS RIGHT NOW AND IT IS FAIR & BALANCED. YOUR JUST MAD THAT THEY ARE DISCOVERING THE TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA & EXPOSING HIM. TOO BAD..VOTE FOR HILLARY.

DAVE,
BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HUSBAND & THE REV. WRIGHT. DO YOU HONESTLY WANT US TO BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE EXPECTED HER TO DIVORCE HIM BECAUSE OF WHAT SHE DIDN'T OR DID BELIEVE IN OF NAFTA. I DON'T THINK SO. MR. OBAMA IS MARRIED WITH A WIFE THAT HAS EXPRESSED HER COMMENTS OF HOW SHE FELT ABOUT AMERICA AND WE DON'T EXPECT HIM TO DIVORCE HER. LETS GET ONE THING STRAIGHT, HE IS CHOOSING TO HAVE AS A FAMILY MEMBER REV. WRIGHT WHICH IS CONSIDERED AS ANTI-AMERICAN. PLEASE DON'T TALK ABOUT HILLARY'S JUDGEMENT BECAUSE OBAMA'S IS PRETTY AWFUL & HE IS DISHONEST.

Jose,
Fox News gives the truth and is fair and balanced? You just lost all credibility.

HOW CAN WE LET OBAMA GET AWAY WITH THIS!
Obama discussed the racial views of his white grandmother Tuesday, a topic he revisited Thursday in an interview with 610 WIP, Philadelphia Sports Radio. In the interview, Obama denied his grandmother held racial prejudices and described her as a “typical white person.”

“The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity — she doesn’t,” he said. “But she is a typical white person who, you know, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know there is a reaction. That has been bred into our experiences that don’t go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way.”

But Obama described his grandmother Tuesday as a woman who was at times fearful of black men.

“I can no more disown (Wright) than I can disown my white grandmother, a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed her by on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe,” he said.

WHY DOES HE CONTINUE TO LIE? EVERYTHING IS CATCHING UP TO HIM & OF ALL THINGS HE COMPARED HIS WHITE GRANDMOTHER TO A ANTI-AMERICAN REV. WRIGHT.

WAKE UP PEOPLE. LISTEN TO FOX NEWS WHERE THEY GIVE THE TRUTH & ARE FAIR WITH BALANCE. THEY LET US MAKE THE DECISION WHILE THEY REPORT IT.

Criticisms about Obama's "present" votes say more about the people criticizing him than they do about Obama. Voting "present" is a typical measure used by legislators in Illinois to keep a bill alive that is not agreeable in its entirety. Also, to accuse Obama of being "spineless" when it comes to his voting record is flaunting your own ignorance. He was hardly "spineless" when he took on the Illinois government, the Illinois police force and the republicans in order to push through a bill that required videotaped confessions. This bill was hugely unpopular when it was first introduced by Obama and he managed to get it passed and win over his critics. Thanks.

Even if we accept that HRC did not agree with NAFTA, which is her campaign's position, I still don't understand why she would travel the country promoting it. If she had a philosphical difference with something her husband was trying to do, she shouldn't have taken an active role in getting it passed. If it was, in fact, something that she thought would harm America, it scares me that she would nevertheless do this. Was she thinking, "this will really screw over a lot of Americans, but it's good for my husband's political career, so I'll pretend like it's a good thing"? Anyway, because Bill was her husband of well over 20 years at the time, we all know that she must have possessed his views, and if she didn't possess his views, she should have done something, right? I mean isn't that the lesson of Rev. Wright?

What is in question is Clinton's sincerety, not her position, mind you.

She said she was against NAFTA. Fine. But the record clearly shows that she supported it. This is what everybody calls lie.

"You should ask David Gergen.

He was actually there for these meetings, and he is on record that Hillary was not sold on NAFTA."

Then release the meeting record and minutes!

David Gergan was Clinton's speech writter. Is it a conflict of interest?

Well, Hillary's words are cheap. She just says what is expedient and she thinks 'we' want to hear. She'll say anything, make infuriating lies because she says voters memories are short.

What about Obama's public support and committment to voting yes on the NAFTA-based model the Peru Free Trade Act in
2007. Most major labor, consumer protection, environment and human rights group opposed it. Obama would tell you that the Act had labor and environmental protections built in. As Edwards pointed out to Obama, in the last debate he was in, that enforcement of the compliance aspect of the Act would be left up to the Bush administration, and was Obama trusting Bush to enforce it? Both Obama and Clinton publicly supported this Act and said they would vote for it and then last Fall neither bothered to show up and vote on it. Obama people, quit the pipedreams. Your candidate is not who you think he is, so take the time to really look past the speeches and look at his record or lack of. Like attacking Clinton on her Kyle-Lieberman
vote but he couldn't get his sanctimoneous butt into D.C. to even vote on it. If you look at that record it's just like all his "present" votes,
he puts himself in a position where he can attack his opponents by making sure he doesn't have a record they can attack. Talk about spineless.

Sad that Mark Penn and Jose are stuck on the latest poll numbers. Its all that they have left to cling to since Hillary cannot win unless the superdelegates deny the whim of the voters.

The sad fact is that she's always supported NAFTA, period. Hillary is part of the breed of politicians that Americans once derisively referred to as a mugwump.

She mugs to the Democrats, but her wump is firmly planted in Republican territory.

Honestly, I don't know which would hurt Hillary's supporters more:
... seeing her lose to Obama, after spending months running for the issues she claims to support...
OR
... seeing her lose to McCain, after spending several more months RUNNING AWAY from the issues she claims to support.

From Canada's The Globe and Mail, Feb. 28, page 1:
"A senior member of Mr. Obama's campaign team called Canada's US ambassador, Michael Wilson, within the past month, warning him that Mr. Obama would be taking some 'heavy swings' at NAFTA in the campaign. 'Don't worry...it's just campaign rhetoric,....it's not serious."

I think this says it all.

Lauren,

You are either severely uninformed or intentionally deceitful. To claim that the Clintons have not run a negative campaign is a joke. As for David Gergen, who cares what he says? Jake Tapper is right. Hillary publicly and privately pushed for NAFTA. Her schedules and the witnesses at these meetings make this clear. Hillary's "shame on you Barack Obama" rant in Ohio is now a complete embarassment.

Hillary is trying to take credit for the release of these papers. The truth is: she fought against their release tooth and nail. They only came to light because of a court order, the result of a lawsuit brought by Judicial Watch.

It was Clinton's surrogates, not Obama's, that went to Canada to convey the idea to the Canadians that her "public posture on NAFTA should be taken with a blink and a nod.

It was Hillary who lied to the Pennsylvania voters that she had been "against NAFTA from the start. She has proved one thing beyond a doubt: She can be trusted, but trusted to lie. She will do anything to get the nomination.

JJR,

In response to your sarcastic mendacity statement, I was being polite in not calling Clinton and her supporters liars. Do you care to expand some more on evidence of the vast AP conspiracy to make up meetings in support of NAFTA being held by Clinton? BWHHAAAAAWAHHHH!!!!!

If "Hillary Clinton was personally opposed to NAFTA" at the time, as her campaign now claims, why was she telling the American people that it was good for the economy?

Answer: She personally opposed anything that was good for the economy? ;>)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBAMA 08

I HOPE PEOPLE OF REST OF THE STATES GOING TO PRIMARIES, WAKE UP. and stop this wolf in sheep's clothing.
otherwise i am sure we will have republican president for next 4 years.

NOBAMA ' 08

So now the AP is lying about Sen. Clinton's meetings to promote the passage of NAFTA? Wow. I am literally at a loss for words on that one.

She changed her mind! Woman's perogative.

This article is the best one out there (there aren't many) about finally exposing Hillary's lies about Nafta. To think that she waited to turn over these papers until AFTER Ohio & Texas.
Re: her saying Obama is afraid about Michigan? All I have to say is "careful what you wish for Hil - perhaps Obama and his supporters will call for a revote in Ohio where you outright lied to all of those people who voted for you because they trusted you! It has been very frustrating to me to see the real Hillary being uncovered painfully slow. And now it's time to uncover more BEFORE Pennsylvania. TAXES, CONTRIBUTIONS - the time for her to do this is now!

That was then. This is now! What's so hard to understand?

Again, why are we expected to blindly believe what the press is saying when it has proven itself time and again to be unreliable. Just because "the AP reports" something it doesn't mean I am supposed to mindlessly accept it as gospel. I was at a Hillary fundraiser where the first thing out of Hillary's mouth was congratulations to Obama on his victory in Wisconsin. The next day the glorious AP reports stated that she didn't even acknowledge his victory. I know first hand how unreliable the press can be. Plus, just from watching the debates for myself I have seen how skewed all the reports and pundits have been.

For the Clinton supporters who are having a difficult time reading: "And as the AP reports today, the recently released 11,000-plus pages of her First Lady "schedules show her holding at least five meetings in 1993 aimed at helping to win congressional approval of the deal."

Why would one hold five meetings to lobby for NAFTA support if you were in fact always against it? Like the article states - there is a sincerity problem with the Clinton candidacy.

I see AD Hominen attacks and Red Herring attacks and mendacity being displayed by the Clinton supporters. It is pathetic and detrimental to Democrats.

Many voters, look at Hillary Clinton and her "35 years of experience" and say, "This is great, we finally get Clinton back into the White House" After 8 years of Bush, it sounds like a good deal.

But wait a second, Hillary is now furious that Obama would misrepresent her position on trade as being pro-NAFTA. Now whatever your opinion is on NAFTA or trade in general, the fact is that Bill Clinton was in favor of NAFTA, pushed it through congress, and signed it into law.

That brings up several legitimate questions:

1. If Hillary opposed it during Bill's term, did she say so publicly? Privately?

2. If Bill should oppose Hillary on a particular issue would he say so publicly or privately?

3. What other policy's of Bill's did Hillary disagree with? What steps would she take to overturn them?

Many observers are saying in essence "You just can't have it whichever way you want" You can't take credit for his successes, while rejecting his failures. I say, you definitely can't be outraged if you opponent assumes that you hold the same position that Bill did during his administration, specifically when the state that you are campaigning in opposed it.

If anyone happened to see the first post-strike SNL, they saw a very Pro-Hillary show. In particular, Tina Fey said something like "people are concerned that if Hillary was elected, they might be co-presidents. Oh my god, what could be worse than two intelligent people working together!" It was funny, but I think many voters are concerned about the issues I mentioned above.

IRISHJIM,
STOP LIEYING ABOUT HILLARY. SHE WAS THERE 15 MINUTES & NEVER VOTED OR PUSHED FOR NAFTA. REMEMBER SHE WASN'T THE PRESIDENT BUT THE FIRST LADY. ALSO, WE KNOW WHERE SHE STANDS AS OF RIGHT NOW WITH NAFTA. WE ALSO KNOW WHERE OBAMA STANDS WHICH IS HE IS NOT GOING TO DO NOTHING SINCE THERE WAS EVIDENCE OF A MEETING WITH CANADA PROMISING OF NO REJECTION. OUR ECONOMY WAS GOOD IN THE CLINTONS YEARS WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED AT THIS TIME. SOMEONE THAT KNOWS HOW THE WHITE HOUSE IS RUN

IrishJim-

I fully support your opinion of Hillary Clinton and her campaign. I am an Obama supporter, and though I wish you would be, I'm glad that you are standing firm on supporting Edwards. That's awesome. I presonally am hoping for an Obama/Edwards ticket. Hopefully!

IrishJim,

I too have fully researched the issues. And, I just referred to Obama as being akin to Karl Rove yesterday because he is so manipulative. I am not misrepresenting any issues. Check out the Texas debate and I challenge you to refute my assessment that he didn't change his position on negotiations with Cuba. Don't be a hypocrite - didn't you say you would campaign against Hillary? Clearly YOU don't care about the Democratic party.

You should ask David Gergen.

He was actually there for these meetings, and he is on record that Hillary was not sold on NAFTA.

But don't take my word for it.

Doug-

YES! Thank goodness someone else is now talking about Outsourcing!!!! Everyone needs to research Hillary's support for this! her words... "Outsorcing will continue because we cannot legistlate against reality. I can run for the Senate of Punjab and win!" Obviously taking pride in her position on Outsourcing...and most importantly, TAKING CREDIT!

JJR,

I was an Edwards supporter in the Iowa Caucus. I fully researched the issues that you continue to mis-represent and I have watched this race closely and have witnessed the rovian tactics being used by your candidate. I will not reward her for it. I will vote for Nader or write in Edwards over her if she gets the nomination. Since my candidate dropped out of the race, I do not have emotions clouding my judgement like you do. It is impossible for Clinton to win the nomination. Her only chance is a scorched earth policy that will ruin the Democratic party. Keep supporting it though. I know the having Hillary win is more important to her supporters than the sake of the Democratic party.

Hillary has not campaigned negatively. The Obama campaign has tried to smear everything she has said as negative.

She started out with very high approval ratings in the Democratic party. They have tried to smear the Clintons with being racist, when one of her top Aides and Advisors is an African-American woman. They have said "She will say anything" so know when she raises any legitimate questions about his experience or qualifications at this time, they accuse her of being negative.
She is put in a place where she will be accused of being negative if she raises any questions or issues, other than praise. It's ridiculous.

Even the 3 am ad was just to get people to think. Obama said it was fear mongering, and then within hours, ran the same exact ad, for himself. If people looked at both ads, and decided they thought Hillary was truly more qualified, then that is more than fair.

IrishJim, there are plenty of Hillary supporters who will not vote for Obama either. Your threat is completely ineffectual. The truth is they are each going to have to pick the other as a running mate in order to ensure a Democrtic victory. And you clearly are gullible, blind and deaf if you believe the propaganda that Obama didn't go negative before. Saint Obama has been negative about the Clinton campaign from the start but because the media was out there deifying him it all went unnoticed. Obama is the master of spin. And, Hello, but he changes his position on things like a chameleon changes its colors. Take his position on Cuba - first he said negotiate without any preconditions, then at the Texas debate he parroted Hillary's response and said he would only negotiate with Cuba if it releases political prisoners. Also, did you not hear about the Canadian fiasco? And, he supported the war once he was in the Senate. And his top foreign political adviser said that to believe he will pull out troops as promised is naive. Obama supporters are so easily and readily beguiled. Kindly exit your bubble.

Marianne's post on offshoring is well taken. Hillary has championed jobs outsourcing: NAFTA caused thousands of factory jobs out of the country, and left our rust belt looking like the great depression. But NAFTA was only the beginning. The problem now is outsourcing technical jobs. Nine out of ten new I.T. positions are being filled by Indian Nationals and it is now expanding to engineers. TATA Consultancy Services is a large contracting staffing company in India. They set up some 50 offices in the U.S. Employers send job orders to TATA, and they hire employees on a temp basis (think Kelly girl) to fill those jobs, often with no benefits. The problem is, they hire the employee in India to do the job, or they hire the employee in India and transfer that employee to the U.S. using L-1 visas which have no caps and are unregulated. They can pay them sub-standard wages. Hillary Clinton has promoted TATA here in the U.S. and is proud to be called 'Senator of Punjab'. There are several articles about her support for TATA and outsourcing. Google Clinton and Outsourcing.

men·dac·i·ty /mɛnˈdæsɪti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[men-das-i-tee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -ties for 2. 1. the quality of being mendacious; untruthfulness; tendency to lie.
2. an instance of lying; falsehood.

The mendacity being displayed by the Clinton campaign is profoundly despicable.

Well,

To all of you who claim that the Obamas, and by extention, the overwhelming majority of Black Americans and any other Americans who do not define Patriotism as blind allegiance to whatever foolish policy some poorly selected temporary leader is selling to maintain his position of power as sold to you by the FOX NEWS NETWORK, we have enough courage to define our own patriotism and to bleieve our counrty can be greater not just as great as you all say it is.

I have determined a couple of things from these posts. Hillary supporters have difficulty in performing basic math functions. If their candidate does something it is OK. If another candidate does the exact same thing, they should drop out of the race. And one wonders why the Republicans are gleefully cheering on the Clinton campaign. This is one life-long Democrat who will actively campaign against Hillary if she gets the nomination. No candidate should be rewarded for negative campaigning. Geez even McCain was able to win the GOP nomination without going negative.

Remember Hillary was against NAFTA from the very beginning.
During Clinton's Presidency, Hillary read the provisions to NAFTA and had express strong reservations. She thought jobs would be lost in the United States.
Hillary supported it in behalf of President Clinton.
Congress voiced strong support for NAFTA.
If President Clinton would had vetoed the bill; it would have been over-ridden.
It was the only successful bipartisan bill pass in the Clinton Administration.

CLINTON CALL OBAMACHICKEN ON MICHIGAN REVOTE:
TERRE HAUTE, IN — Hillary Clinton is turning up the heat in the battle to hold a re-vote in the state of Michigan — calling him out for being scared of another election.

“For the life of me, I don’t understand why Senator Obama seems to be afraid of letting there be a revote in Michigan,” she said. “It’s going to hurt our party and our chances in November.”

Senator Clinton ridiculed a memo from the Obama campaign’s attorney Bob Bauer outlining the reasons for his opposition to the revote, saying “He comes up with all these legalistic answers.”

She also laid the blame for Michigan’ failure to come to a conensus on the issue squarely at Obama’s feet.”The people of Michigan and their legislature made it very clear that they would proceed with a revote. Unfortunately, Senator Obama’s campaign said no,” she said.

So will have to ask him what he’s afraid of.

Ktow, all I remember on this is Hillary saying she was against it but like the war in Iraq I guess yes, means no. Hillary is allergic to the truth.

Remember Hillary was against NAFTA from the very beginning.
During Clinton's Presidency, Hillary read the provisions to NAFTA and had express strong reservations. She thought jobs would be lost in the United States.
Hillary supported it in behalf of President Clinton.
Congress voiced strong support for NAFTA.
If President Clinton would had vetoed the bill; it would have been over-ridden.
It was the only successful bipartisan bill pass in the Clinton Administration.

Dear Jake,
Thank God ! foe journalists like you that we might say that the press is still a bit Free and fair.

Pls keep up your good work and let people know the truth.

Hillary has taken responsibility for her vote many times:
Hillary: 'I have taken responsibility for my vote, and I believe that none of us should get a free pass.' "You know, George, my vote was a sincere vote based on the facts and assurances that I had at the time. And I have taken responsibility for my vote, and I believe that none of us should get a free pass. It is up to the voters to judge what each of us has said and done. But I think the most important thing now is to focus on what we have to do together, particularly as Democrats, to try to force this president to change direction." [AFSCME forum, Carson City, NV, 2/21/07]
Hillary: 'Well, I cast a sincere vote based on my assessment at the time, and I take responsibility for that vote.' "Well, I cast a sincere vote based on my assessment at the time, and I take responsibility for that vote. I also said on the floor that day that this was not a vote for pre-emptive war. I thought it made sense to put inspectors back in. As you recall, Saddam had driven out the UN inspectors in 1998 and the situation in Iraq was opaque, hard to determine, and I thought that it made sense to put inspectors back in. Now, obviously, if I had known then what I know now about what the president would do with the authority that was given him, I would not have voted the way that I did." [Meet the Press, 9/23/07]
Hillary: 'I have said many times that I take responsibility for my vote.' "Hillary countered, 'I have said many times that I take responsibility for my vote.' [Hillary remarks in Dubuque, Iowa, reported by New York Observer, 3/5/07]

Sandy, because we know the difference between media propoganda and truth. It starts with a reality check. Rev. Wright is not a racist by any stretch of the imagination. Is he pissed with the US government? Absolutely. So are most Americans. Unfortunately, his past has left him scarred by the very real relationship between the Klan and the state governments in the south in the 20th century. Keep in mind the U.S. government set idle for over 60 years watching these atrocities before intervening. Now, fastforward to today.

Senator Obama is in a church that has done more to empower African Americans in that community than anything any politician has ever done. Suddenly, a young man that starts out as a lawyer begins community service away from the church and suddenly becomes recognized by the community and ultimately statewide. He has NEVER done anything in his years in IL that would ever indicate a racial bias and NEITHER has Rev. Wright.

Suddenly, a spirited sermon to a congregation that understood the context gets distributed across the nation in soundbites. Senator Obama isn't even in the building. However, in the twisted context of 3 minute soundbites, or lack thereof people have chosen to judge a man's entire life and career when clearly nothing else indicates he is racist or anti-American.

I fought in a war for this country and don't wear an American flag nor do I cover my heart when I hear the national anthem. I still love this country and have done something most of you haven't which is volunteer to put my life on the line to protect it's interests and freedoms. Partiotism is a weak Republican argument that means very little in the grand scheme of things. Does wearing a pin make a coward a patriot? Do declarations of patriotism make one a patriot? I think not. It's the contributions to this great country that demonstrate patriotism and I challenge you to look at this turn of events and tell me where his patriotism has wavered.

Lastly, Michelle Obama shared the sentiments of many African Americans when she