Political Punch

It will be ironic in the extreme if the Democratic Party finds itself stuck with a candidate who cannot win against McCain in November.

The superdelegate system was created to prevent starry-eyed 20-somethings from forcing another presidential candidate from La-La Land on the party -- and now that just such a situation has arisen the powers that be haven't the moral courage to use it. Early on, Sen. Obama proclaimed that for the superdelegates to override the so-called popular will with their undemocratic votes would be a betrayal, despite the fact that this is exactly what they are supposed to do when the need arises. Talk about rule changing!

I don't believe in "sour grapes." People who proclaim out of petulance that they are staying home on election day if their candidate doesn't prevail are simply being childish. But it is one thing to express this intention out of petulance and another to express it out of despair. I can find no basis for deciding between Obama and McCain; both are fatally flawed, in my estimation. I really can't stomach voting for either one. So, from despair rather than petulance, I find that, should Obama take the nomination, I *will* be staying home on election day.

I know Hillary is flawed. But, unlike so many of Obama's supporters, I'm not looking for a Savior. I'm looking for a bright, tough yet compassionate president, and Hillary is it. In fact, she's the only one still running.

A few elections ago there was a fund raiser put on for Gore by his friends. Gore was to be the star attraction. Hillary found out about this event and demanded to be invited and this was agreed to by the organizers. When Hillary showed up she started working the room for money for herself - sucking the money away from Gore. She pissed off some BIG TIME Democrats and some of those people today are supporting Obama despite having been in the inner Clinton circle. Hillary will have no one but herself to blame when she fails to make her life long vision a reality.

To Obama supporters who keep saying they will vote for McCain over Hillary, don't worry, we Hillary supporters are going to make the same choice if Obama becomes the nominee. In that sense, we completely agree.

THE INCREDIBLE NONSENSE OF THESE TWO CANDIDATES WILL BE THE DEMISE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. CLINTON CRITICIZES OBAMA AND SAYS HE IS NOT READY OR EXPERIANCED BUT FEELS HE IS READY TO BE VP? CLINTON IS THE MOST HYPOCRITICAL LIAR & MANIPULATOR ON EARTH -THE MORE WOMEN DON''T OPEN THEIR EYES TO THIS FACT- MORE OF THESE SAME WOMEN WILL NOT BE RESPECTED IN THE FUTURE. THINK ABOUT IT.WAKE UP LADIES & GENTS. NEITHER DEM IS READY OR QUALIFIED. MOVE ON.

Just remember these significant figures:

Hillary Clinton-260

Barak Obama-190

My significance in the vote that counts (the electoral college), is nil.

That's because I will vote in a state that was an insignificant Obama caucus win.

The electoral votes of my state will go to the Republican (this time it's McCain) as they always have.

My vote in the Presidential election is important to me, but it is- insignificant.

I can deal with it.

Can you?

change:

how significant are you?

Hillary's big state argument doesn't hold water. NY, NJ, MA and CA will be won by the Democrats in November regardless of the nominee.

The notion that losing 61-39 is "a good showing" is laughable. Hillary was creamed yet again.

You are right, Tapper,

Victories in red states that Republicans will carry in November are insignificant.

So is Obama.

People need to remain focused on how the election will be won in November...by winning the vote of the electoral college.

Obama fans are quick to point out more wins in individual states, while Clinton supporters point to experience and electability.

The winning candidate will remain focused on the November election. John McCain and the Republicans are already doing that.

At present, Hillary Clinton has won states which would net approximately 260 electoral votes while Barak Obama could garner about 190 votes.

It doesn't matter how many battles you can win if you can't win the war.

smash...As an African American I would never sit out an election.The fight to have the right to vote came with bloodshed. I will under no circumstances vote for Hillary I will vote indenpendant.

I don't think blacks are letting race cloud their judgement! Blacks are listening to the issues that are important to the people and they are part of the people. This is our lives just like it is every other race. I wish everyone would stop thinking that we are that mesmerised by Obama that we are not seeing things clear because we are and we are not as dumb as people think we are! If we think Hillary is the best canidate then that is the vote we will cast. But, for the most of us, we feel Hillary is not honest and we have read between the linesw, not saying that Obama is a saint but his track record is nothing like Hillary's.Please give us more credit than that.

Neither Obama or Hillary is going to win any of the so called red states by the time Hannity, Lumbaugh, O'Reilly and the rest of the Ultra Right Wing gets through with them.

FYI. Hannity already started smearing Obama before his birth.

Unfortunately, they have many listeners and followers in the red states. Democrats better get a clue other wise McCain is going to stroll into the WH.

the big states hillary wins always vote demoscrat in genereal elections thats why they are called blue states lol hillary and her supporters has proven this that she cant win in red states thats why the super delegates are leaning to obama obama leads hillary 150 plus in pledged delegates and if you add fla he still leads and in popular votes hillary fans its over.dinggggggg

Hillary, Hillary, what are you hiding. After going into Ohio and Texas and casting aspersions on your colleague to win at any cost, you must really think the rest of American people are all stupid. Now you are trying to pull wool over their eyes with a big Clinton Obama, unstoppable ticket. You two have to be a mad couple. Mad from the thought of losing and mad with desire to go back in the White House.
So tell us Hillary, why won't you release my tax returns to the American people, so they will know how honest she is with her taxes?

I will not vote for Senator Obama if Sen. Clinton becomes his running mate. Who wants those two in the Whitehouse again? Only those who stand to gain from their corrupt donors - drug dealers, people of questional characters who are in jail or those from Arab countries whose stand on terrorism is not known. Or lobbyists and their companies who donated more to Sen. Clinton than any other candidate Republican or Democrat. She is indepted to them and therefore, cannot get anything done as she claims.

Apparently a reporter apparently just explained this whole "electoral system" thing to Mark Penn, who suddenly realized that everything he's said in the past three months has been utterly wrong and damaging to Hillary's campaign.

Oops!

What True Democrat could Vote for Hillary after she was Praising McCain on National T.V.(and for you who dont know, McCain is a Republican)

Why insist on a do-over for Michigan and Florida? Just follow the wrong-wingers om this and penalize Michigan and Florida by cutting the number of both delegates and superdelgates in half. If Michigan is problematic, give the 'undecideds' to Obama. Sheesh, how hard is this to figure out. I am an Obama supporter, and this is the easiest way to both seat a proportional amount of delegates AND penalize the states for advancing their primary dates.

Obama will win anyway.

NO THANKS HILLARY!!!
I have gone beyond losing all respect for Hillary. Now she is using Senator Obama to get votes. She tells people on the campaign trail that they might get a chance to vote for both of them if they vote for HER first. She will do and say ANYTHING to win.
I am glad that Senator Obama has stated that he WILL NOT BE A VP and I hope that he will NOT ask Senator Clinton to be his VP.
I was sick to my stomach Friday when I left for work after watching a video of a staged Clinton media event with some retired generals. They read from prepared remarks. She praised John McCain's years of experience...stated her experience as if it were the same as McCain's and then stated that she had somehow proven she met some 'threshhold for being ready to be commander and chief'. Then she tried to reduce Senator Obama's experience to one speech... It's outrageous as if she is attempting some sort of mind control and we will just believe her because she got it out in the media....
Her husband, Bill Clinton had no experience that 'qualified' him to be commander and chief when he ran for president...
Clearly the Clintons KNOW that Senator Obama IS READY to be commander and chief on DAY ONE or they would not want to be on a ticket with him...AND it looks like the Clintons have realized that they can't win without him so they are trying to USE HIM TO WIN.
I won't be voting for a ticket with Hillary Clinton on it. Besides having her on the ticket will unite a fractured republican base and they will do anything to keep the Clintons out of the white house.
And despite what Clinton says the media has been going very easy and fairly polite with her. There is a lot out there that they could be asking her about and they are NOT. I feel that they are more biased against Senator Obama...especially CNN, and the people who vote for him.
There have been no VALID votes in Michigan and Florida. They are not recognized by the national party. The candidates signed agreements about this.
I support a new and valid vote for Florida and Michigan if it can be set up fairly. Senator Obama will need time to campaign in these states so that people can get to know him which was not allowed previously and Clinton was already well known without having campaigned. Obama has has to introduce himself and let the people get to know him.

WE NEED CHANGE NOW!!!
Obama/Edwards '08