Political Punch

It will be ironic in the extreme if the Democratic Party finds itself stuck with a candidate who cannot win against McCain in November.

The superdelegate system was created to prevent starry-eyed 20-somethings from forcing another presidential candidate from La-La Land on the party -- and now that just such a situation has arisen the powers that be haven't the moral courage to use it. Early on, Sen. Obama proclaimed that for the superdelegates to override the so-called popular will with their undemocratic votes would be a betrayal, despite the fact that this is exactly what they are supposed to do when the need arises. Talk about rule changing!

I don't believe in "sour grapes." People who proclaim out of petulance that they are staying home on election day if their candidate doesn't prevail are simply being childish. But it is one thing to express this intention out of petulance and another to express it out of despair. I can find no basis for deciding between Obama and McCain; both are fatally flawed, in my estimation. I really can't stomach voting for either one. So, from despair rather than petulance, I find that, should Obama take the nomination, I *will* be staying home on election day.

I know Hillary is flawed. But, unlike so many of Obama's supporters, I'm not looking for a Savior. I'm looking for a bright, tough yet compassionate president, and Hillary is it. In fact, she's the only one still running.

A few elections ago there was a fund raiser put on for Gore by his friends. Gore was to be the star attraction. Hillary found out about this event and demanded to be invited and this was agreed to by the organizers. When Hillary showed up she started working the room for money for herself - sucking the money away from Gore. She pissed off some BIG TIME Democrats and some of those people today are supporting Obama despite having been in the inner Clinton circle. Hillary will have no one but herself to blame when she fails to make her life long vision a reality.

To Obama supporters who keep saying they will vote for McCain over Hillary, don't worry, we Hillary supporters are going to make the same choice if Obama becomes the nominee. In that sense, we completely agree.

THE INCREDIBLE NONSENSE OF THESE TWO CANDIDATES WILL BE THE DEMISE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. CLINTON CRITICIZES OBAMA AND SAYS HE IS NOT READY OR EXPERIANCED BUT FEELS HE IS READY TO BE VP? CLINTON IS THE MOST HYPOCRITICAL LIAR & MANIPULATOR ON EARTH -THE MORE WOMEN DON''T OPEN THEIR EYES TO THIS FACT- MORE OF THESE SAME WOMEN WILL NOT BE RESPECTED IN THE FUTURE. THINK ABOUT IT.WAKE UP LADIES & GENTS. NEITHER DEM IS READY OR QUALIFIED. MOVE ON.

Just remember these significant figures:

Hillary Clinton-260

Barak Obama-190

My significance in the vote that counts (the electoral college), is nil.

That's because I will vote in a state that was an insignificant Obama caucus win.

The electoral votes of my state will go to the Republican (this time it's McCain) as they always have.

My vote in the Presidential election is important to me, but it is- insignificant.

I can deal with it.

Can you?

change:

how significant are you?

Hillary's big state argument doesn't hold water. NY, NJ, MA and CA will be won by the Democrats in November regardless of the nominee.

The notion that losing 61-39 is "a good showing" is laughable. Hillary was creamed yet again.

You are right, Tapper,

Victories in red states that Republicans will carry in November are insignificant.

So is Obama.

People need to remain focused on how the election will be won in November...by winning the vote of the electoral college.

Obama fans are quick to point out more wins in individual states, while Clinton supporters point to experience and electability.

The winning candidate will remain focused on the November election. John McCain and the Republicans are already doing that.

At present, Hillary Clinton has won states which would net approximately 260 electoral votes while Barak Obama could garner about 190 votes.

It doesn't matter how many battles you can win if you can't win the war.

smash...As an African American I would never sit out an election.The fight to have the right to vote came with bloodshed. I will under no circumstances vote for Hillary I will vote indenpendant.

I don't think blacks are letting race cloud their judgement! Blacks are listening to the issues that are important to the people and they are part of the people. This is our lives just like it is every other race. I wish everyone would stop thinking that we are that mesmerised by Obama that we are not seeing things clear because we are and we are not as dumb as people think we are! If we think Hillary is the best canidate then that is the vote we will cast. But, for the most of us, we feel Hillary is not honest and we have read between the linesw, not saying that Obama is a saint but his track record is nothing like Hillary's.Please give us more credit than that.

Neither Obama or Hillary is going to win any of the so called red states by the time Hannity, Lumbaugh, O'Reilly and the rest of the Ultra Right Wing gets through with them.

FYI. Hannity already started smearing Obama before his birth.

Unfortunately, they have many listeners and followers in the red states. Democrats better get a clue other wise McCain is going to stroll into the WH.

the big states hillary wins always vote demoscrat in genereal elections thats why they are called blue states lol hillary and her supporters has proven this that she cant win in red states thats why the super delegates are leaning to obama obama leads hillary 150 plus in pledged delegates and if you add fla he still leads and in popular votes hillary fans its over.dinggggggg

Hillary, Hillary, what are you hiding. After going into Ohio and Texas and casting aspersions on your colleague to win at any cost, you must really think the rest of American people are all stupid. Now you are trying to pull wool over their eyes with a big Clinton Obama, unstoppable ticket. You two have to be a mad couple. Mad from the thought of losing and mad with desire to go back in the White House.
So tell us Hillary, why won't you release my tax returns to the American people, so they will know how honest she is with her taxes?

I will not vote for Senator Obama if Sen. Clinton becomes his running mate. Who wants those two in the Whitehouse again? Only those who stand to gain from their corrupt donors - drug dealers, people of questional characters who are in jail or those from Arab countries whose stand on terrorism is not known. Or lobbyists and their companies who donated more to Sen. Clinton than any other candidate Republican or Democrat. She is indepted to them and therefore, cannot get anything done as she claims.

Apparently a reporter apparently just explained this whole "electoral system" thing to Mark Penn, who suddenly realized that everything he's said in the past three months has been utterly wrong and damaging to Hillary's campaign.

Oops!

What True Democrat could Vote for Hillary after she was Praising McCain on National T.V.(and for you who dont know, McCain is a Republican)

Why insist on a do-over for Michigan and Florida? Just follow the wrong-wingers om this and penalize Michigan and Florida by cutting the number of both delegates and superdelgates in half. If Michigan is problematic, give the 'undecideds' to Obama. Sheesh, how hard is this to figure out. I am an Obama supporter, and this is the easiest way to both seat a proportional amount of delegates AND penalize the states for advancing their primary dates.

Obama will win anyway.

NO THANKS HILLARY!!!
I have gone beyond losing all respect for Hillary. Now she is using Senator Obama to get votes. She tells people on the campaign trail that they might get a chance to vote for both of them if they vote for HER first. She will do and say ANYTHING to win.
I am glad that Senator Obama has stated that he WILL NOT BE A VP and I hope that he will NOT ask Senator Clinton to be his VP.
I was sick to my stomach Friday when I left for work after watching a video of a staged Clinton media event with some retired generals. They read from prepared remarks. She praised John McCain's years of experience...stated her experience as if it were the same as McCain's and then stated that she had somehow proven she met some 'threshhold for being ready to be commander and chief'. Then she tried to reduce Senator Obama's experience to one speech... It's outrageous as if she is attempting some sort of mind control and we will just believe her because she got it out in the media....
Her husband, Bill Clinton had no experience that 'qualified' him to be commander and chief when he ran for president...
Clearly the Clintons KNOW that Senator Obama IS READY to be commander and chief on DAY ONE or they would not want to be on a ticket with him...AND it looks like the Clintons have realized that they can't win without him so they are trying to USE HIM TO WIN.
I won't be voting for a ticket with Hillary Clinton on it. Besides having her on the ticket will unite a fractured republican base and they will do anything to keep the Clintons out of the white house.
And despite what Clinton says the media has been going very easy and fairly polite with her. There is a lot out there that they could be asking her about and they are NOT. I feel that they are more biased against Senator Obama...especially CNN, and the people who vote for him.
There have been no VALID votes in Michigan and Florida. They are not recognized by the national party. The candidates signed agreements about this.
I support a new and valid vote for Florida and Michigan if it can be set up fairly. Senator Obama will need time to campaign in these states so that people can get to know him which was not allowed previously and Clinton was already well known without having campaigned. Obama has has to introduce himself and let the people get to know him.

WE NEED CHANGE NOW!!!
Obama/Edwards '08

All of this talk from the Clintons about offering Obama the VP spot even though he is still No.1 in delegates and the popular vote tells me that the
Fix is already in for Hillary!
The Democrat Party leadership will
Steal the Nomination from Obama by having the Super Delegates put Clinton
over the top or seat the illegal delegates from Florida and Michigan or some weird combination of both!
After totally trashing Barack Obama for weeks, the Clintons believe they can retain the African American vote by picking Obama to be their VP!
No Rezko problem as long as Obama is
the VP candidate?
No "empty screen" as long as Obama is the VP candidate?
No "fairy tale" as long as Obama is the
VP candidate?
Do the Clintons really think the American People are That Stupid?
Go back to Arkansas or New York or wherever it is you live now Hillary and take Bill with You!

Where do you find such a Logic ?

Senator Clinton and Bill are floating the idea of Senator Obama being considered as an EXCELLENT VP candidate.

As Senator Kerry indicated, the item to consider when you pick a VP running mate is, in an event of an incident or an accident can he step in as a President?

Senator Clinton is negating herself. If Senator Obama can not be a Preident then he can not be a VP unless she is 100% confident nothing will incapacitate her.

This is either challenging the Super Natural or STATEING THAT SENATOR OBAMA IS QUALIFIED TO BE A COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

The logic is to accept the later.

No matter why they are injecting this notion into the campaign, it is nothing more than saying anything to be nominated and elected.

Obama took more delegates AND more raw votes from Texas (after both phases of the voting are considered), yet the press and the Clinton campaign continue to report Texas as a "win" for Hillary. Should we be surprised, then, that a minor loss for Hillary in Wyoming counts as a "win" as well? We've passed the "silly season" and headed into the "delusional days" of their campaign. There is absolutely no way for them to make up Obama's delegate lead, so it's going to be spin, spin, spin from here on out.

Absent advocating the IRS as an important component of healthcare; Hillary is nothing more than McCain in a pantsuit.

Hillary has los touch with the world. The only thing she think about is winning and want release her tax returns obvious she has somethin to hide. I would release my tax returns to the American people, so they will know how honest she is with her taxesl

"I've been very blessed. Keynote speaker at the Democratic National Convention. The cover of Newsweek. My book made the best-seller list. I just won a Grammy for reading it on tape.

Really, what else is there to do?

Well, I guess I could pass a law or something."

--Barack Obama, March 2006

A vote for Obama is a vote for McCain.

Obama is king of Caucuses, no doubt. But in the general election where the cameras are not shone on people, the people generally vote with their head (and nobody can accuse them of being racists).

That explains why Barrack Obama is doing well in Republican states (Red States). He is doing well because Republicans in general do not like Hillary; they don't like Democrats in general, and they will flock around McCain in the general election. Why? Because Obama has no achievements in Illinois or Washington that he can tout. Being a community organizer does not sell in National politics.

Republicans have been voting for Obama in the Red State to stop the person they fear the most - Hillary.

Democrats should not be fooled. Blacks in general should not let pride cloud their judgment either.

Let's keep our eyes on the price.

A vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain.

End of.

Obama is king of Caucuses, no doubt. But in the general election where the cameras are not shone on people, the people generally vote with their head (and nobody can accuse them of being racists).

That explains why Barrack Obama is doing well in Republican states (Red States). He is doing well because Republicans in general do not like Hillary; they don't like Democrats in general, and they will flock around McCain in the general election. Why? Because Obama has no achievements in Illinois or Washington that he can tout. Being a community organizer does not sell in National politics.

Republicans have being voting for Obama in the Red State to stop the person they fear most - Hillary.

Democrats should not be fooled. Blacks in general should not let pride cloud their judgment.

Clinton gets the benefit of name recognition - can trumpet that she has the experience of being married to a President which Obama does not. This is true.

What's galling is that she then complains the media who obviously knows alot about her and her husband is 'meaner' to her. We don't hear Obama griping that it's unfair she has an ex-president as a husband. The Hillary camp will distort and manipulate everything to show it as positive for her.

Do not worry all you Hillary supporters let's wait in see how pissed off Hillary can angry all the Obama''s supporters. I am not just talking about Obama ether; just the people who support him in this election. She underestimated him before the election and now she is underestimating his strong support. Remember this is a movement will see what happens after she steals the election. This is going to go down as a classic battle in the history books. Your grandchildren will be talking about the 08 election; what happened?. Do not worry; Obama does not have to say a word the people who support him will.

This is Hillary’s scorched earth policy, slash and burn. If she can’t win then her policy is to destroy everything and everyone including the Democratic Party. She is willing to loose her legacy and her dignity all in the name of power. I feel really bad for her if she does this she will regret it later in life.

I see a great opportunity here for the republicans in this election. If Hillary steals this election; by her any means necessary policy. The republicans should try to reach to all the African Americans and Obama supporters to support John McCain... Obama should not under any circumstances accept or align himself; in any way with the Clinton Campaign. He should go back to the Senate and get ready 2012. All of us who support Obama should either vote for John McCain or sit this election out in protest of Hillary Clinton???s campaign

I find Senator Clinton's rhetoric to be somewhat confusing. During her campagin in 2000 for Senator in New York she demanded that her opponent (Rick Lazio) release his tax returns making them public. She persued this issue quite aggressively to the point her campaign had someone dress up in a costume like Uncle Sam and heckle Mr. Lazio in public over the issue. Now where do you suppose I came up with a story like that? None other than the New York Times. The same newspaper that endorsed Hillary. Think I'm joking? Check it out for yourself. The title of the article reads as follows:

Political Memo;Stunt Keeps a Focus on Lazio's Tax Returns"
By Clifford J. Levy
Published August 18,2000

I propose that Senator Obama do the same thing. Oopps, I forgot. That's "Plagerism".

LA in Indiana: You are starting to lose me with these illogical questions.I will have to admit that Bill Clinton did not get Osama Bin Laden, but then again Mr. Bush has had 7 yrs to get him dead or alive and the last time I checked he was still alive and on the lose. I know of noconnection between Mr.Ayers and his wife with Osama other than there hatered of america. It is Move On dot Org. who has endorsed Mr. Obama that says that General Petraus has betrayed us. Yet he does not reject their endorsement. I am against the war but I know one thing and that is that the military did not betray this country. They have done everything that we have asked of them. It was the politicians that let them down. I have always been proud of America not just when Obama decided to run!

oh, and by the way russell....Obama has done exactly what with Ayers? Other than know him, what have they done together??

your operative words there russell...."a 60s radical group"

you can hold onto something from 40 yrs back, but you ignore all the crap the clintons have done within the last 20 yrs?

the clintons let terrorists go...and you want to make THAT comparison???

I already answered that question, I have never voted for a republican. But I can't guarantee that this go around.
All military members are not republican.

No matter what I say about Barack Obama, you hillary sheeple will find something to tear him down, just as she has done. In all my years, I have never seen a democrat throw another democrat under the bus and embrace the candidate in the other party.

Barack Obama did not throw Kerry/Edwards under the bus when it came to his speech in 2004, and his support for them, despite their war vote.

So ya see....hillary isn't concerned about the party, just herself, evident in her actions, and her words.

so russell...you actually BELIEVE all her lies and distortions?
you agree with her hypocrisy? especially when it comes to taxes...her campaign asked for Lazio's taxes everyday....was she imitating Ken Starr then??

Just like she campaigns, she will be the same if she were in office. Just like she did healthcare, held closed door meetings that affects the public, so she'll be in office. Most people don't want that anymore....its old, and tired.

Will she be made to answer Peter Paul?

Catiger: This is the sexist box which many people try to put women in. If they are too tough then they are mean if they show any emotion then they are weak! If men show toughness then they are strong not mean. If they show emotion they are not weak they are compassoniate. This is the problem that a woman has when running for the toughest job in the world. All in all I think Hillary has preformed pretty well. That's what makes me proud of her and what she has accompolished!

don't distort MY view....I will NOT vote for hillary clinton, period.

She could do kartwheels and backflips, I could care less. She is polarizing, manipulating, and a disgusting liar.
Her slash and burn politics don't make her tough,

if it is Hilary and Obama I to would have to rethink my vote Hilary is of the old ways not he new way we want our country to go and as far as you Hilary supporters go your out of tune and are just as insulting to others as well as yourselfs

Obama, if you don't like or can't take the heat now wait till you become the nominee. The repubs will eat the freshman senator alive. Hillary has always been able to handle the repubs bashing and put a few more on them. And that is exactly the point, the repub attack machine will be worse than what we have seen him handle yet. What you are watching now is a prelude to nov.

LA in Indiana: I could not have put it better myself. Glad we both agree. Like Obama says I guess we are coming together!

russell: "her toughness ...", all fine with me with you lecture on why politicians need to be tough. But that does not mean they should go out and attack everybody on her way?

Toughness should be in her heart, to get things done, not to attack her fellow democrats who vowed never doing negative campaign. Toughness is when you are attacked you still hold your ground and not to attack. It takes a hell of character to do that.

No, Clinton is weak in her heart. Her character is weak. She pretends to be tough. She is just another "win-at-all-cost" politician. We have had plenty of them in the past. GWB is one of them.

By attacking, she makes a lot of enamies. You know what, her enamies are not necessarily our enamies. They are also americans who happen to have just slightly different opinion than her. As time goes on, her enamies could unite and diminish and destroy her.

This time, she also managed to make a lot of enamies among the people who used to support her.

dl: If the people of MA thought that Hillarys health care plan was so bad why did she win the state? Education is not a negative but when one uses it to make others feel inferior then it shows how uneducated they are. There is a saying in my part of the country "don't get above your rasin'". It appears that many in the Obama camp have got above their rasin'.

Hilary now wants Florida and Mich to be counted after signing a contract what happends when she signs a bill and wants to take it back? what dose that say to the rest of the world? with some countries treating woman as slaves will they even talk to her? and what dose it say to our country? will she even keep her word to us? or go back on her word if it bennfits her? and so what if Hilary won some big states? dose that mean the little states don't matter what are we voting for? if the big states and the super delgates are the ones voting Obama is the one who has bought the voters out but your saying we don't count if we live in a little state and sure Hilary has more experance but what has experance done for us? except make politicians richer we are sick of hearing what experance has done we want to know what its going to do for us we are supporting a war that cost us $150,0000 a month our housing has gone down the tubes gas prices are eating us alive other countries are buying our banks and all our jobs are in other countries what has the same old politics done for us except take from us? we are the ones paying there wages and getting little if nothing back I think politicians should go back and read the declaration of independence it said for the people by the people not subject to control and that is happening if all the states are not counted we need someone who will take us where we want to go not the govenerment what are we doing frist Bush then Clinton then Bush then Clinton and you know Hilary will not keep Bill out of the white house don't you think we need a fresh prospective what harm can someone new do were already down we can only go up but can we go up with the same as usual politics who is going to steal from us more or is that just politics? and who is going to be counted just the big guy?

Russell

I am the working class grew up with parents that have horrible insurance issues surrounded by friends that can't afford insurance (many of whom live in Massachusetts and went through a nightmare with fines)...

So I take umbridge to anyone who says I am not the salt of the earth blue collar Saugus, MA and proud guy that understands the struggles of the average american.

and when did an education become a bad thing... sad.

Hillary Clinton doesn't like or do well at caucuses. Could be because she doesn't know where there being held. While speaking to a small gathering in Casper, Wyo. she said, "where is your caucus being held at"? Hard to send her organizing caucus team to the caucus when she doesn't know where it is. If she doesn't know this how is she ever going to know where the phone is? How is she ever going to organize an office? Maybe the same way she organized her own campaign; to the point she had no money, could not pay some staff and had to lend it 5mil. Still not clear where the 5mil came from?? Go-ahead Hillary, show the people your back tax returns today.

"Sicko", ...

Not everyone likes Michael Moore's provocative work. In my opinion, without his "911 fahrenheit", democrats could have captured WH in 2004. This time, I cross my fingers that he will not produce anything provocative. I also pray that he keeps his big mouth shut very very tight. The extreme left is a liability to democrats and he represents the extreme left. They ruined Gore's chance in 2000 since their Green party supported Nader, instead of Gore (who is much much more greener than Nader). They also contributed to 2004's defeat since Michael Moore's work made a lot of independents voted for Bush.

sorry, but you're wrong. I have been in the military for 19 yrs, I stand in sanctuary at this point. So if you THINK you know the service, then you continue to think I will be called up. I'm a little too old for that now, son.

no, she won't ruin me. I'm at the end of my military service, so I'm not worried about hillary. She will ruin you sheeple that support her though lol

obama----YIKES !!! | Mar 9, 2008 3:34:45 PM: " I could ALSO say ..."

Really, Clinton said hurtful things about Obama? Really? Which one?

Comparing Obama to Carl Rove, Ken Starr? Who did it? Howard Wolfson? Who is Howard Wolfson? Is he the official spokesperson of Clinton campaign? His statement represents Clinton!!!

Clinton runs on a platform of attacking politics. She is the ultimate attacking dog for repulican.

I am not talking about the nomination ...I am talking about who is best (overwhelmingly...as many are starting to deduce from the real statistics available now)

Who is best to beat McCain in the general. These maps looking at the general just came out last week...so most people have not deduced what the two studies that have been done so far (by unbiased and reputable organizations)mean...are just finally starting the discussions of this math.

...and the more issues that keep coming up Obama goes from the better candidate to a huge margin better.

Catiger: Slash and burn sure you are not talking about Obama's republican tactics that he used in Ohio? The picture on his mailers was the same ones used by the republicans to kill Hillary's health care plan. It was the same picture a man and woman at a kitchen table. The ad was dubed Harry and Louise and it effectively killed health care reform.

Let me say it very clearly.

I am an Obama supporter. But, if Obama choose Clinton as his VP, I will either stay home or vote for McCain.

Obama runs on a platform of new politics and Change. If he puts Clinton as his VP, he becomes part of the old slash and burn and win-at-all-cost politics. He has no appeal to me anymore.

If Clinton becomes the nominee, I will vote for McCain, just to stop her.

He won some that will vote republican and have but if you look at the numbers...

That article did not give specific numbers...they are going on this big state assumption. I can tell you people are just starting to realize the maps of swing states that everyone has been assumning is wrong...and it becomes very clear when you see the numbers from this year compared with the last 2-3 presidential runs.

but this article never breaks it down with the numbers of people coming out to vote this year and they are looking at assumed trends based on the general ideas people had before this primary started and before Obama showed such strong numbers...

That is the point...some states that were in a 10 point margin on the republican side ...have a really good chance of going to obama. It would remake the political map ...

...and it doesn't speak to the margins. I know it is the washington Post but you'll all see in the nextweek or so...the change people are just starting to realize.

Jim Meck: Left out was the fact that Mr. Obama said that he did not consult Mr. Rezko about the property that he would eventually purchase. A few weeks ago he stated that he now remembers that he not only talked to Mr. Rezko about the house but that he took him on a tour before he bought it. Looks like Mr. Obama was not forthcoming or he had some sort of cerebral eclipse.

"All attempts by Hillary Clinton to broker a combined Ticket "

Why she all of sudden becomes obsessed with a combined ticket? Was the same Clinton who questioned Obama's abaility to answer the phone at 3:00am and give republicans yet one more round of amunition to attack Obama?

So, she now realize Obama is qualified to answer the phone?

Why Clinton and her supporters always want both ways?

No, I will never vote for any ticket that has Clinton on it, regardless. She is simply too divisive and too polarizing. The nation is much better off without them in the politics, PERIOD.

Karentheadvocate: I think that it was Mr. Obama that asked that his name not appear on the ballot in MI. I think it was Jesee Jackson who said that every vote in Fl. should count in 2000. What is undemocratic about having a second election? How does that disenfranchise anyone?

No ...actually to win the presidential nomination all wins are not alike.

Wins with a large margin are something...in a state where you are running against the same party.

But a close race means almost nothing...with respect to a race against the other party.

Large margins on the other hand may carry signifigance.

If you look at the states that have large margins...most of them were Baracks win. If you narrow that to states that had a normal or maybe even larger than usual republican turnout... but were closer (under 12 points) in the last two general elections... Barack wins overwhelmingly.

nope, never voted for a republican in my life...

see how you hillary sheeple are lol

you deserve her! she will ruin you!

don't you guys see what is going on. Fla rupublican politicians are plotting the destruction of both the democratic party and the current presidential campaigns.

Fla. destroyed the elections in 2000, 2004 and here again in 2008. the repub;ican legislature new the rules on the DNC and purposely broke them when the scheduled the primary form 1/29/. there is nowway to either seat these folks or allow their votes to determine tis election. if you count the votes as they currently stand you will both disenfranchize those who did not vote and Obama/ clinton you will create a racial riot the likes of which has yet to be experienced. if clinton and obama and others signed and agreement that stated that they would not campaign in the states and that the votes would not be counted in the fight for the dem nomination they she be held to just that, treat fla like you treat DC. seat them in the convention and give them no vote in the outcome. Hillary cannot use Fla or Mischigan to steal thenomination from Obama. the american people will never stand for this. Michigan took him off the ballot and there is no way theorvotes can be counted at all. having a new election unfairly disinfranchizes Obama because it gives fla and Michigan the opportunity to usurp the votes of the populace.

I believe and i am just representative of middle america. I believe that in a year where we have seen so many miriacles in the electoral process we cannot afford to negate the american people. we all know the issues here and we are willing to stand behind the DNC and their decision agreed to by Clinton and Obama prior to those primaries. now that Obama can win we are resorting to the politics of old south. discounting the votes of the people by changing the rules at the polls or telling them not to come to the polls because their is no election and themn telling that they should have come anyway and now they have no chance of voting.
do this america and lose the youth, midle, multi-cultural input that proves to be larger than ever in this election. assure america that no other Obamaand even clinton has a chance in future to upset the apple cart of american politics. President Clinton would attack this mess if his wife was not the potential nominee. It is just wrong. wewon't vote for Hillary if this happens we will put the idiot in office and kill another 10,00 american soldiers for nothing.

Hilary
Hilary has no experience apart from emotionally supporting her husband bill clinton
during his presidency. Obama compain team should examine the ludicrous claim of 35 years experience !
Please see following

I'm interested inseeing all parties tax returns, Library donations and memos from Pardon discussions.

Walter

Check out the numbers...Hillary does much worse against McCain...in polls and more importantly in the numbers that are starting to be broken down for the general election...

Barack does MUCH better.

Barack Hussein Obama is a very elegant speaker, but that is all. All of you starry eyed Obama supporters are so easily led, his speech's have sentences with words that sound good, but have no practical meaning. Lots of Republicans voted for Obama in these primaries so he would win and McClain could beat him easier than Hillary in the general election.

Janet's right ...

I live in NH too...Hillarys tactics and Baracks, well...whole campaign is what made me focus on Barack and not Hillary (both campaign's I volunteered for...along with Joe Biden's)...

...adn it was not a big win...Hillary has very few "big wins"

CESSPOOL OF CORRUPTION

Although he has been mum about it, Obama has had long-standing financial relationship with Excelon Corporation, one of the biggest polluters in Illinois. Over the past ten years, Obama has received hundreds of thousands of $$$ in campaign contributions. According to FoxNews, "Senator Obama has some questions to answer about his dealings with one of his largest contributors, Exelon, a big nuclear power company." Apparently he cut some deals behind closed doors to protect them from full disclosure in the nuclear industry."

According to Associated Press, Obama, has refused campaign donations from federal lobbyists but accepted money from banking and law firm partners. In fact, despite mocking Senator Clinton as being a Washington insider, he happily took hundreds of thousands of dollars from partners at dozens of firms that lobbied Congress in 2007

Hey LA in Indiana, we are doomed, if people like you think just because we are supporting Hillary we are terrible people. Such an example of Obama support, mean-spiritedness and nasty. Get over yourself. Some of us are rooting for Hillary and we don't need to offend Obama supporters to do so. You are an example of hypocrisy as your candidate is against such bashing. That is what I called doomed and a sign of a terrible movement, not a positive one.

You Hussein supporters need to continue drinking your Cool-Aid! Do you really want to put your heads in the sand?

At least get the facts from CNN, ABCNews, FoxNews, CNBC, Chicago SunTimes, etc. Your boy Hussein is what Louis Farrakhan wants as our next President.

Jenny...I don't know where you are getting your information but Hillary Clinton did not "win in a big way" in NH. In fact, she didn't win NH at all. She won 9 delegates, Obama won 9 delegates and he also was endorsed by 2 of the 3 democrats who are super delegates (the Dem gov hasn't endorsed yet but introduced Obama at several events). Hillary ran an extremely dirty campaign in NH sending out false and negative flyers as well as the slander email about Obama. Of course, she did her crying thing here too. Also, many people who voted for Edwards and Richardson would have voted for Obama had it only been a 2 person race. So check your facts.

George, I completely agree. It is the Obama's camps desire not to have the votes count in at least Florida that assures me a vote for him is a hypocritical vote. How can such a "hopeful" man blatantly be twisting things to his favor all the while bashing Mrs. Clinton. I think they are both of the same, but at least Hillary is not proposing a holier than thou message and the fact is, she has more examples of bipartisanship and political accomplishment no matter what any Obama supporters wants to manipulate.

I agree but where do you look to figure out your best plan...
if polls and trends don't mean anything why would you call some states democratic bastions,,,some swing and some republican...

oh that's right because they "trend" that way...oy

An example of Obama camp hypocrisy--they will do anything to win, including manipulative twists:

"The Obama camp insists that rules are rules and Florida and Michigan shouldn't count. But is that really a winning argument within the Democratic Party? About 2.3 million Democrats voted in those primaries. Remember that in 2000, Democrats fervently argued that Florida election law was less important than making sure "every vote counted." The party then claimed that holding to the strict letter of the law was tantamount to disenfranchisement.

If "voter intent" was more important than the law in 2000, shouldn't it also trump mere party rules in 2008? Obama's argument about the paramount importance of rules might work with a Republican audience, but it runs counter to the ideological framework of the Democratic Party.

Here are the facts: "Obama had a monthlong string of victories in states tailor-made for his campaign. He had a month of the most fawning and deferential media coverage imaginable. He had a month of presumed inevitability that saw many otherwise serious people calling for Clinton to leave the race. He had a month in which he raised $55 million, enabling him to outspend Clinton 2-1 in Ohio and Texas."

And yet he lost the two most relevant states since Super Tuesday.