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Senator Clinton makes a good point. You can't choose your family but you can choose your pastor. The funny thing is she chose Billy Graham who has been known to make an anti semetic remark every now and then, such as, pedlers of pornography, and satan worshipers. I'm not saying one pastor has a better point than the other. The true point is, the candidates don't necesarily always agree with what thier pastor says.

In attempting to find out what Obama's church's doctrinal statement was I looked to the church's website. The only thing I found that would indicate it was the following that is listed under "about us":

Talking Points

Dr. Wright's talking points (3.1.7) for Trinity United Church of Christ its Web site and
the Black Value System (in response to Erik Rush's comments (2.28.07) on the Hannity and Colmes show):
• One of the biggest gaps in knowledge that causes the kind of ignorance that you hear spouted by this man [Erik Rush] and those like him, has to do with the fact that these persons are completely ignorant when it comes to the Black religious tradition. The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone's book, Black Power and Black Theology.
• Black theology is one of the many theologies in the Americas that became popular during the liberation theology movement. They include Hispanic theology, Native American theology, Asian theology and Womanist theology.
• I use the word "systematized" because Black liberation theology was in existence long before Dr. Cone's book. It originates in the days of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. It was systematized and published by theologians, Old Testament scholars, New Testament scholars, ethicists, church historians, and historians of religion such as Dr. James Cone, Dr. Cain Hope Felder, Dr. Gayraud Wilmore, Dr. Jacqueline Grant, Dr. Kelley Brown Douglas, Dr. Renita Weems, Dr. Katie Cannon, Dr. Dwight Hopkins, Dr. Linda Thomas, and Dr. Randall Bailey.
• These scholars, who write in various disciplines, also include seminary presidents like Dr. John Kinney and professors of Hebrew Bible, like Dr. Jerome Ross. Black liberation theology defines Africans and African Americans as subjects – not the objects which colonizers and oppressors have consistently defined "others" as.
• We [African Americans] were always seen as objects. When we started defining ourselves, it scared those who try to control others by naming them and defining them for them; Oppressors do not like "others" defining themselves.
• To have a church whose theological perspective starts from the vantage point of Black liberation theology being its center, is not to say that African or African American people are superior to any one else.
• African-centered thought, unlike Eurocentrism, does not assume superiority and look at everyone else as being inferior.
• There is more than one center from which to view the world. In the words of Dr. Janice Hale, "Difference does not mean deficience." It is from this vantage point that Black liberation theology speaks.
• Systematized Black liberation theology is 40 years old. Scholars of African and African American religious history show that Black liberation theology, however, has been in existence for 400 years. It is found in the songs, the sermons, the testimonies and the oral literature of Africans throughout the Diaspora.
For Trinity United Church of Christ
The title is the only place I found Christ mentioned.
I agree a closer examination of the candidate should be explored. Let's not be too hasty in our search for a new president or a new agenda. I don't favor the agenda as espoused on the website.

I still have to scrtch my head when I hear opinions that want to downplay Rev. Wright's statements. If Barack Obama was an occasional visitor to that chruch, and had "casual" relationship with the Rev., then by all means, stop beating the issue. But these two gentlemen are very closely related and have deeply been involved in each others lives...if you ask me, we haven't examined this incident closely enough. This man wants to be our president, not the school treasurer. It's time that we take Hillary out from under the microscope and start to really look at the reality of Barack Obama leading this nation and it's people. Who we embrace and hold in high esteem in our spiritual values speaks volumes about who we truly are. The nice haircut, suit and diplomas are only the first chapter...I have a feeling that the story of Barack Obama has not even begun to reveal itself...

Its amazing to me to see how everyone downplays and avoids the issue. if you think about everything in this world we have the power and influence to change it. To love one another is not difficult yet we prove time and time again that our own personal hurst and personal truth holds us back... it is easier to hate than to begin widespread love. This love is also not airy fairy love we need love with passion, conviction and honesty to be able to address issues and not sugar coating everything always promoting openess. I pary one day our eyes will be open and maybe just maybe we will be like that one crow sitting left of the murder.

I still want to see proof that Obama wants anything to do with the white race and America in general. He belongs to a church that is all black, they promote all black and Africa and nowhere does his church say one thing about white or America.

DON'T GET HUNG UP ON REV. WRIGHT'S STATEMENT "GOD DAMN AMERICA". WHAT HE REFERRED TO WAS GOD'S "JUDGEMENT" OF A NATION OF HYPOCRITES WHO TOUT FREEDOM ,DEMOCRACY, AND THE AMERICAN WAY WHILE PROMULGATING INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM AND WAR. EVERY THING HE SAID WAS TRUE: DID THIS COUNTRY NUKE JAPAN? WHAT WAS DONE TO THE INDIANS? WERE WE LIED TO ABOUT IRAQ, NOT TO MENTION 911? IF YOU WANT TO HOLD OBAMA RESPONISIBLE FOR THE CONTENT OF HIS PASTOR'S SERMON, THEN YOU MUST LIKEWISE HOLD HILLARY RESPONSIBLE FOR HER PASTOR'S CONVICTION (3YEARS PRISON)FOR CHILD MOLESTATION.

What this episode clearly shows is that in spite of forty wasted years of indoctrination about matters racial, and for all the judicial and legislative chicanery employed over those years for compelling us into “loving our brothers,” nothing has changed, except that Black rabble-rousers are given more deference (and latitude,) than White rabble-rousers. Being a White male, I find Rev. Wright’s remarks refreshingly honest. Perhaps people will now come to their senses and understand the absolute idiocy in dreaming of a day when mankind will gather together in a utopian multi-hued rainbowed chorus and stand, hand-in-hand, harmoniously singing ‘Kumbaya' - because that day will never dawn. Our ethnic differences will never abate so long as they remain in our genes; Darwin was right and Boas was a charlatan.

Charles: Well said!

You say Senator Clinton should not talk about Rev. Wright's hate speech against America? You are wrong!

Senator Clinton should continue to raise that issue because it speaks to Obama's character deficit that he would continue to attend Wright's church, listen to the anti-America shouting of Wright and worse yet, let his children hear that kind of rhetoric.

Obama is Wright's enabler and his silence is consent -- by his silence Obama failed to repudiate for nearly 20 years egregious Wright's hate speech.

We should turn our backs on Obama -- he should not be president of this country.

Senator Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the U.S. -- superdelegates must vote her to be the nominee of the Democratic party asap.

'Ignorance' so many Americans. We are NOT a DEMOCRACY. We are a REPUBLIC. The PEOPLE do not elect our leader, the ELECTORALS do. If we were a DEMOCRACY - there wouldn't be an ELECTORAL system - it would be whomever get's the most votes. Yet - we are a society that elects officals by the most votes by a very small group of people. Hiullary has a chance becuase we are not a Democracy. That's why she still has a chance. The superdelegates wil decide... how's that for your democracy. I've heard it a thousand times - I'm a democrate because I live in a democracy... Brilliant - and you think your vote counts too I bet.

None of these crazies are going to get out of Iraq. There is no difference between any of them. Ron Paul was the last hope for this country. To hear defenses of any of the 3 major candidates nauseates me.

I am sick of listening to morning show hosts (Matt Lauer) and other media yahoos spewings of how it's Hillary that is destroying the Democrats chance to become president. They seem to have forgotten that we live in a democracy. Presidential nominee should not become so through a coordination of the party elites and the biased media. Until the votes of Michigan and Florida are counted Obama, his lawyers and the elitist heads of the party are showing that they are no better than the Republicans. They will have stolen the candidacy from its own supporters. If this happens I feel pretty sure that many democrats will be former democrats. If they force Hillary out by not allowing the democratic process from reaching fruition then many of her supporters will walk out as well. If Obama wins fair and square then many of us may consider voting for him if not then he is digging his own grave. Someone must have forgotten that their of millions of Hillary supporters that feel quite rightly that Obama has had a free ride and Hillary has been berated unfairly not only by the Obama camp but also by the media and the DNC.
If they are going to treat us like we are Republican then we might as well vote like we are Republicans. Nadar is starting to look better with each salvo that being lobbed across Hillary’s bows to get out! Be careful what you ask for since when she leaves many of us will follow. Count the VOTES!

isn't it strange that Bill Clinton calls on Rev Wright for spiritual guidance during his impeachment trial and Hillary and Bill's pastor uphold Rev. Wright see
Hillary Clinton is a hypocrite and a liar and not worthy to be president

I cannot believe some of the comments on this page, filled with hate and venom and ignorance. This is a non-issue. Wright made some bad remarks Obama renounced those comments and answered the questions that needed to be answered. We are so done with this. It's over. I don't even know who Clinton's pastor is, or what religion she is. Her website says something about her being a Methodist at age 13. If she still is, who knows and who cares? McCain is going to laugh all the way to the Whitehouse because of all this petty nonsense about non-issues and all your holier-than-thou opinions. When your kids are all in the middle east still fighting a war 10 years from now, you can all blame yourselves.

Mariann: If you want to call Rev. Wright out for his hate, then you must acknowledge your own hate. Every comment you have left here makes you no better than the man you are claiming to denounce. Therefore, no you don't understand God's word because you know that you are to love your enemies, you know you are to love your neighbors as you love yourself, and that you can not cast a stone at a sinner if you can't come clean about your own inner sins. Hate is a sin and you are no better than the people who at least had the nerve to come from behind their veil. Seems to me you have a lot of repenting to do.

Also, Rev. Wright church is an intergrated church, he even mentions it in the full video of his sermon that you only heard a 1 minute sound bite on by which you are judging and condemning this man. The vast majority is a black congregation but he do have white & hispanic members. Again, let he without sin cast the first stone and take a hard look at the woman in the mirror before and ask God to help remove your inner hate so you can stop spreading hate & lies.

Lauren: Why don't you become a member of Obama's church? Then you would be right at home since you believe Wright is a good pastor. What he is good for is nothing. And to use god's name in vain is a sin. Don't you know your bible. That pastor doesn't preach the gospel he is too busy running America down and all the white people. And Obama knew this from the start. The white people that vote for him don't have the brains to sit on or the window to throw them out of. Obama doesn't love this country and neither does his wife run of the mouth Michelle. Obama just wants to make history in this country so he can brag about it. Wake up and face the facts. Didn't you ever read about his background with crooks?

Just as Hillary tried to deflect the furor about her honesty problem by saying Wright wouldn't be her pastor...

Hillary's own pastor is now standing up for Reverend Wright!

If you're buying into the FOX news/Clinton machine's two or three 10-second sound bytes on Rev. Wright, you need to be a grown-up and go listen to the whole sermons. Totally non-controversial. Sure, white people dont "get" the black experience, but even so, Wright makes perfect sense to this white dude from Kansas.

Wake up, folks. You can't believe a word out of Hillary's mouth.

Thanks to Hillary for denouncing Wright. Obama won't do it.

At least one candidate has some guts.

Hillary Clinton is such a hypocrit. She was able to "have a heart" and forgave her cheating husband Bill but doesn't think Obama should forgive his pastor. " He wouldn't be my pastor", she says, " we can't choose our family but we can choose our pastors." Well, Bill wouldn't be my husband. Afterall, we can choose our husbands. But she choose to remain with him.

Are you Americans saying that because Wright is black its a big deal to have suggested that America had a hand in the 9/11.How about the testimonies the White Marines are giving about the War in Iraq. The fact that the war was just not called for. Can't you see then that America is still incuring the wrath of the Arabs? God forbid!! but if something happens again as a retaliation to the war in Iraq wouldn't it have been as a result of your actions;if what the marines are saying is anything to go by!!!.
If i were an American i definitely would not be voting for Hilary who had a hand in this war in iraq. Barack will receive my votes hundred times over!!!

wright fears for his life ???
If the pastor is praying for God to damn America, why is he even living in America ? And that also goes to the people who were applauding him in his evil sermons. God bless America and the world.

To those who believe that Hillary is a good leader.The 1 and only reason that Hillary is bringing it back up again is
Baracks favorable ratings were climbing back up in the polls he was starting to get the numbers back. She did this only because when it first came out his numbers descended and hers began to ascend. She could give a rats behind about this issue,she has many of her own. Like lying, playing dirty, win at any and all costs even to her own party

Hillary has set Feminism back by about 100 years. - When she is through with us, we probably won't have the right to VOTE. - On one hand we have Bush, single-handedly destroying our entire culture, on the other hand we have Hillary, destroying women's hard-earned rights. - At the very least, she's doing serious damage to the Democratic Party. - WHAT? - Are they ALL working for Osama bin Laden? - He couldn't do any worse for our country than our own people are doing. - Personally, I think that Bush might be schizo, and should be quietly removed from office right now. - What scares me is the thought that I could be RIGHT.

I am concerned about Barack Obama's judgment. It is important to understand the teaching that has influenced a candidate's world view. Any candidate aspiring to be our President should undergo that scrutiny. Until recently Barack Obama was a blank slate. We have learned that Barack Obama's spiritual advisor and mentor for the past 20 years, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, agrees with the teaching of James Cone. James Cone was the founder of Black Liberation Theology and was influential in the Black Power movement. An Internet search for James Cone, Black Liberation Theology, Black Power movement, and Rev. Jeremiah Wright will help an honest inquirer understand the teaching that has helped to shape Barack Obama's world view. Bartack Obama has listened to sermons for 20 years and gave significant amounts of money to support Rev. Wright's preaching. Rev. Wright gave a Lifetime Achievement Award to the anti-white, anti-Semitic, and anti-Catholic Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan. Margaret Talev has written an informative article concerning the relation between James Cone, Black Liberation Theology, Black Power movement, and Rev. Jeremiah Wright. The article can be found at:

Barack Obama could have chosen a spiritual advisor and mentor who agrees with the teaching of Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Rev. King epitomized the meaning of treating people the way you want to be treated. He understood the injustices and persecution black people had experienced, but he did not adhere to James Cone's version of Black Liberation Theology and the Black Power movement. Rev. Jeremiah Wright agrees with the teaching of James Cone. There is video evidence of how the teaching of James Cone influenced Rev. Wright's preaching. In one video Rev. Wright was preaching about black people harming other black people. He told his congregation they were fighting the wrong enemy. We have heard Rev. Wright tell his congregation not to say God Bless America. Rev. Wright told his congregation very emphatically God Damn America... He talked about the USofKKKofA. He told his congregation our government had invented the Aids Virus and had intentionally infected black communities.

Barack Obama chose Rev. Jeremiah Wright to be his spiritual advisor and mentor. Their relationship has spanned 20 years. Barack Obama has exposed his daughters to anti-American and anti-white preaching.

How does a Jewish person feel when he learns that Barack Obama's spiritual advisor and mentor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, gave a Lifetime Achievement Award to the anti-Semitic Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan? The Holocaust was a horrendous part of the history of Jewish people. The pain of that experience lingers.

Barack Obama was a blank slate until recently. Barack Obama, no free pass. Not this time.

This must be th enew illary clinton site or something...People talk about hate! This women has been lying about

Of course there are Obama fanatics out there who will stick with him even if he is the worst person on this earth. Afterall his racist pastor called him JESUS on one of his sermons and the black people who were there clapped, danced and praised the pastor's words. So it's fair to say that OBAMA's supporters are part of his CULT because they worshipped him despite of all the lies he had presented them. Over 20 years of hatred; racism; bigotism and unpatriotism; 20 years of bad judgement. He is not even fit to be a good father to his 2 children for letting them listen to hatred, racism, bigotism and unpatriotism sermons, how much more a Senator even worst a President? What is he trying to unite? The Racist, the haters, the bigotists and the unpatriotic all together? OBAMA, OBAMA WILL REMEMBER THOSE 20 YEARS YOU SPENT TO A CHURCH FULL OF HATRED, RACISM, BIGOTISM AND UNPATRIOTISM. YOU MIGHT HAVE FOOLED YOUR FELLOW BLACKS BUT NOT MAJORITY OF AMERICANS. GOD BLESS AMERICA.

It's about time Sen. Clinton spoke up about her stance on Mr. Wright and Obama's stance on race issue. Obama continues to play race card even when Sen. Clinton kept quiet about his involvement with Mr. Wright. What's Obama think he is? He goes to church who preached Racism, bigotism and unpatriotism and yet he plays the underdog card and he implies the notion that he has not done anything wrong for attending to a racist church with his wife and 2 children for 20 years. He is a disgraced Senator and he has no business running for president of the United States. AMERICA REMEMBER'S YOUR RACIST CHURCH MR. OBAMA; AMERICA WILL NEVER FORGET!

It's about time Sen. Clinton spoke up about her stance on Mr. Wright and Obama's stance on race issue. Obama continues to play race card even when Sen. Clinton kept quiet about his involvement with Mr. Wright. What's Obama think he is? He goes to church who preached Racism, bigotism and unpatriotism and yet he plays the underdog card and he implies the notion that he has not done anything wrong for attending to a racist church with his wife and 2 children for 20 years. He is a disgraced Senator and he has no business running for president of the United States. AMERICA REMEMBER'S YOUR RACIST CHURCH MR. OBAMA; AMERICA WILL NEVER FORGET!

Why people are so stuck-up. How could Obama listen to hate speech for 20 years. This is not like Clinton has 35 years of experience. Go to check at Obama's pastor's sermons for the past 20 years and to find out more hate speech he gave. Go, go to find out. I believe that you can only keep playing the same ones you have been playing the last few weeks. Any more?

YOU WANT TO BE PRESIDENT OF OUR COUNTRY?
WHY HAVE YOU BEEN LISTENING FOR OVER 20 YEARS " GOD DAMN AMERICA" WHY?
YOU SAY "WE ARE PEOPLE OF FAITH, I HAVE ATTENDED TO MY CHURCH REUNIONS FOR OVER 20 YEARS"( BARACK OBAMA OFFICIAL ELECTION 2008 PAGE)
WHY ANY PERSON WOULD VOTE A MAN, THAT HAS BEEN PREACHED FOR OVER 20 YARS BY SOMEONE WITH SUCH A HATE IN HIS HEART FOR THIS COUNTRY?
THANKS TO THIS COUNTRY OBAMA'S MINISTER CAN PREACH! EVERYWHERE ELSE HE WOULD HAVE BEEN BANNED!
WHAT ARE WE WAITING TO SEE,
OBAMA BURNING AMERICA'S FLAG?
I STILL DON'T KNOW WHO I'AM VOTING BUT ONE THING I 'AM SURE... IT WON'T BE YOU MR. OBAMA.

YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO SEAT ON THE MOST IMPORTANT CHAIR OF THE WORLD!!!!! PEDRO

Good. I stopped hearing Obama use the word "judgment". Now, we have to prove that he has no credibility because he said he never heard those statements. But, he did hear some in 2007 per his NYT interview.

So, Obama has zero credibility like the liberal media so-called pundits.

I think that black voters believe that if Obama is elected it'll be like they've won the lottery. Boy are they in for a rude awakening. The people that work for a living can't afford to pay any more taxes.

20 years of hate Obama. Why?

What About...Hillary's pastor who was just convicted of molesting a 7-year old girl? Can Hillary comment on her choice of pastor?

Ok Hillary, how come you have not left your husband of over 20years for an affair in the white house and Obama must leave his pastor for a few lousy words...come on...I know you rebuke the behavior, but wont rebuke the person...seems like exactly what Obama did...he did not accept the words but he still kept faithful to his pastor...Careful now the whole world is watching your lying and deceit..

The black democrats I know, both activists and rank-and-file, are completely disgusted with Clinton. They're all saying she's crossed a line.

Interestingly, Clinton has active surrogates on her payroll who are not only members of Trinity United Church of Christ, but also call Reverend Wright their pastor. We'll see what they have to say about this. One campaigns frequently for Clinton - Rev. Marcia Dyson. Also, Clinton's campaign manager, Shiela Jackson Lee, attends and is a member of a church where Black Liberation Theology is preached every Sunday--Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church in Houston Texas. Rev Wright has preached at Wheeler Ave. Baptist Church often over the past 20 years.

But of course, Clinton hypocrisy is not really news, is it?

Way to go Hillary...if Obama won't answer the questions than I applaud you for finally taking a stand. He's had weeks to do it. Don't say anything and the stupid americans will forget about it. Or better yet run away for a few days. Wrong were Smarter and Proud Americans.

ISN'T IT CONVENIENT FOR HIM TO TRY TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM THE REV. NOW? WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS? HE IS A LIAR. WAIT UNTIL EVIDENCE OF OBAMA'S PRESENCE AT HIS SERMONS APPEARS ON VIDEOTAPE OR IS DOCUMENTED IN WRITING FOR EXAMPLE, BY TITHING.

John said: Nice try Dennis - I wouldn't bother to waste my time putting your name on a post - you're a typical Obama loving lying cheat. You put it out there and blamed me - get a freaking life. What's that Govt. job you got? Still freeloading off the govt because you can't cut in the private sector. Oh that's right if you're a minority you've got a job for life in the government. Go to the private sector and let's see how you cut it. Stop living off the dole and get a real job.

You get some shoes, and an education than talk to me. Freeloading huh? I'll remember that when that private sector job goes under, lays you off, and takes away your pension, gives you an ataboy and a foot in the rear end.

That is why I got smart and I don't work in the private sector anymore. I don't worry about getting outsourced or laid off dummy. So I guess a "freeloader" as you put it is in better shape than you.

Also I have a Bachelors in Business Management, a Telecom background, and military experience so I could go private sector if I chose too. I got smart and choose not to be there. I have options and get private sector offers all the time. I took advantage of the opportunities that were before me. What do you have? Did you serve your country? You still haven't answered that coward! And you still never answered about where I was complaining because I went to the military. That's because you can't find it!!!

And stop hatin' because you don't have a government job. You sound jealous when you say stuff like "Oh that's right if you're a minority you've got a job for life in the government." Yep sure do and proud of it!!!

The Demon is a liar!!

Obama takes a "legal" bribe. Obama is a self serving, full of himself, dirty politician. Why is racist Michelle Obama still in Chicago working? Well, how about this... He get's elected Senator and magically her salary doubles for the exact same job! Somebody really wanted a Senator's wife on the payroll. A bribe right under the noses of the public. Who says public service doesn't pay! Rezco money, bribes, money from crap books. So much for serving your country - how about getting rich off the back of the middle class. Freaking lying, cheating Obama.

HRC is without a doubt trying divert attention from her mistake.
But let's be very honest here and cut through all the political BS: Why has Obama not left this Church? Or better, why was he a member for 20 years?
He claimed Wright was leaving and so he can stay, but given the new pastor's recent Easter sermon, it seems the new guy is of the same mindset as Wright.

So I ask a very simple question: Why did Obama stay in this church for 20 years, and why is he still in it to this day?

This woman is not only getting desperate but she is also looking like she is getting desperate.

Do we want a president who will betray this lack of self confidence?

Moreover, do we want a Democratic Party whose registered voters and hard working campaigners are, in the end, betrayed by super-delegates in favor of the Clintons who are superior only in their own imaginations?

BTW – Where are her tax returns?

Angel said: I agree with Hillary Clinton, I can not seat with my son for 20 minutes (no 20 years) listening to so much hatred and anti-USA propaganda even offending the families of the innocent victims of the 9/11 attack.

You have ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF of what sermons Obama listened to and you have ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF he's a racist and you have ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF that he thinks like this in any way.

You do have PROOF that he denounced those remarks and you do have PROOF Hillary lied about being shot at more than once and you do have PROOF that she has stretched the truth about her foreign policy experience and healthcare reform

But teach your son how to lie continuosly and be a dirty, backstabbing sellout. Those are great qualities that I want in a leader Angel.

Hillary Hits Obama on Rev. Wright
The headline is misleading. Hillary was asked a direct question. She answered from her point of view. The media needs to stop with the overblown and misleading headlines. Stick to the facts, please.

Americans were outraged at rev. wrights
hate statement "God Damn America" That he had the nerve to condemn this nation.
preach that and teach it in a church.

Obama brought the race card in and played it. Making wrights hate statement a racial issue.

Which should scare everyone.

How and why did Obama make a hate into racial?

Which should scare you more is many Americans were sucked in by obama on it.

It was a justifiable reaction to someone God damning your country, no matter who it was, or what color he was.
Every American should of been outraged.

Unless Obama wanted us to know All Blacks hate America and that is ok.

I think obama is a confused man.

Shame his black dad ran out on him. His white mother did not want to raise him. That his White Grandparents gave him the best they could while raising him.

We can't use excuse for our lives or actions. If you do, you need counseling.

Time for all to grow up. Today is 2008.
racism is only in the hearts that hold it, and no where else.

Slavery was abolished, civil rights movement won. Laws are in place. everyone is equal.

Time to take responsibility for your own life. Time to stop making sorry excused for yourself.

Anyone preaching and teaching hate or racism should be charged with hate crimes.

Poor knows no color
Unemployment knows no color
Education knows no color

The Government is not at fault for your problems. The Government does not owe you jobs or food or homes or a college education. They can and do assist.

Mr Obama you said you wanted to unify, then make race and issue, then say your the only one who can unify. You sir are a Hypocrite, if there ever was one.

God Bless America

Love it or Leave it

Your only Allegiance is to America

Hillary/McCain ticket?

well, why not? She has joined forces with Swift Boat Veterns, FoxNews and ABCNews.
since she isn't going to get the Florida or Michigan vote, since she is behind in the count, AND now that she is AND has been LYING about Bosnia, she'll do anything to attempt to win, even if it means blowing up her own party.

Dean, take her to the wood shed!

Since I am a Democrat who do not want the party to wrap in the same veil of the "David Duke" GOP stigma, I am glad that Hillary Clinton, of all the party leaders, is the only one with courage to publicly face head-on the hatemongers.

Hillary Clinton was so courage to press Barack Obama on Farrakhan endorsement during the February debate, avoiding the Democrats an embarrassment in a general election of being painted the same way as the GOP' stigma.

I agree with Hillary Clinton, I can not seat with my son for 20 minutes (no 20 years) listening to so much hatred and anti-USA propaganda even offending the families of the innocent victims of the 9/11 attack.

Hillary Clinton is not alone, Rasmussen Polls found Fifty-six percent (56%) of Likely voters remain somewhat or very concerned about Obama’s relationship with Pastor Jeremiah Wright. That figure includes 72% of Republicans, 54% of unaffiliated voters, and 45% of Democrats. Just 36% of African-Americans are concerned along with 61% of Whites. Voters under 50 are less concerned than their elders."

John I know you're not throwing insults LOL!!!

Stop sleeping with your cousin and your mom and go and buy your first pair of shoes so you can stop walkin' around barefoot please. Also it must get awful lonely in the 8th grade not being able to hold a conversation with 13 years olds when you're 33.

Hillary obviously suffers from delusions of grandeur if she thinks voters will reward her for stealing the nomination. Either she thinks that or she's in the TWYLIGHT ZONE. The Clinton News Network (CNN) is feeding into her delusions by sweeping the Bosnia lie under the rug while helping her to change the subject back to Pastor Wright. They keep reporting that the people will get behind her once she sucessfully steals the nomination. Can you say Independent? Can you say Ralph Nader? Can you say Cynthia McCkinney? Actually, history will definately be made this year. This could be your year Ralph Nader.

Hillary obviously suffers from delusions of grandeur if she thinks voters will reward her for stealing the nomination. Either she thinks that or she's in the TWYLIGHT ZONE. The Clinton News Network (CNN) is feeding into her delusions by sweeping the Bosnia lie under the rug while helping her to change the subject back to Pastor Wright. They keep reporting that the people will get behind her once she sucessfully steals the nomination. Can you say Independent? Can you say Ralph Nader? Can you say Cynthia McCkinney? Actually, history will definately be made this year. This could be your year Ralph Nader.

John you are a sorry piece of crap!! Don't post my name to post I didn't write. Post your own sorry name to your post coward.

Also stupid I sign my name Dennis in Orlando, FL not Dennis

Not so fast Hillary Clinton. You can't change the subject from your big fat lie about Bosnia by invoking Pastor Wright back into the mix. But since you did take it there, how about mentioning the FACT that you and Bill did invite Pastor Wright to a prayer breakfast at the White House, in which Bill solicited his council the day after the MONICA LEWINSKY story broke. Bill took pictures with Pastor Wright and thanked him for everything. A lie is a lie Hillary. Why can't you just admit you lied and apologize. You prefer to insult the intellegence of your constituents by lying and creating a nicer sounding phrase for your lie such as "I mispoke." Young children are watching you as well as the world. Is this really the message you want to send them? You're saying that you have to lie, cheat and steal to get what you want. Is this the legacy you want to leave any grand children you may have. Now mother's all over the world will have to explain to their children that you don't lie and then say "oh, excuse me, I mispoke." Most Americans are smarter than that!

"We have to encourage people to, at once, remember the past but also be open to a different future." - Rebecca Walker

Unfortunately, from reading the posts on this site, I can clearly see that the baton will need to be passed to another generation of Americans, perhaps one several decades down the line. I have confidence that America will fulfill it's destiny and become the embodiment of its' ideals. Unfortunately, it appears that will only happen in the lifetimes of our heirs, after many of us have passed from this Earth.

"History is not false"

Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution...and I quote "three-fifths of all other person" - a reference to the counting of America's slaves as 3/5 of a human being, in terms of the apportionment of the representatives of Congress.

Excerpt from the Declaration of Independence...and I quote, "He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us" (slave revolts) "and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages"

America the beautiful...

"History is not false"

George Washington, the father of this great country, owned 317 slaves at the time of his death. Please erect another statue of this man!

America the beautiful

"History is not false"

I might not have worded it quite the same way...

However, "History is not false"

and another thing John - Most of what you say is correct.

Dennis, you are correct, my fellow American. Thank you for your service to this country. You are a true patriot.

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, the rest of the Founding Fathers....If these men tried to campaign for the Presidency today, they would be run off stage. Alexander Hamilton called Jefferson a "contemptible hypocrite"....He was correct.

"History is not false"

Dennis - I applaud those that serve because they believe in this country. I don't respect those that serve because as Obama-loving John Kerry said you couldn't do anything else with your life. You got some nerve serving in uniform then complaining about it. How'd the military get so desparate to let you in. Kudos to those that serve with pride and patriotism!!! Nothing to the self-serving complainers like you Dennis.

Akinyele another thing that cracks me up, especially with these conservative republicans and Clinton supporters, is how they question Obama's patriotism when none of them have served this country in the military.

I'm gonna question some of their patriotism now. I served in the U.S. Army for 4 years. Most of these conservative radio talk show people have never served and are always talking about how long we should stay in Iraq. I have friends still in that are in Afghanistan and Iraq and I would like to see them come home.

It's no fun being away from your family especially during the Holidays or months or years. I spent all three Christmas' away from mine so I know about sacrifice so it's one thing if you've served your country. Maybe you have a lil' leeway, but if you haven't how can you be so patriotic and criticize someone else’s patriotism. You've got some nerve if you do.

I say this to all of you challenging Obama's and I might also point out Rev. Wright's patriotism because he was a U.S. Marine, either suit up and serve or shut up!!

Per Dennis in Orlando, FL (a true patriot):
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- GEORGE WASHINGTON (between 250-350 slaves)
- THOMAS JEFFERSON (about 200)
- JAMES MADISON (more than 100)
- JAMES MONROE (about 75)
- ANDREW JACKSON (fewer than 200)
- Martin Van Buren (one)
- William Henry Harrison (eleven)
- JOHN TYLER (about 70)
- JAMES POLK (about 25)
- ZACHARY TAYLOR (fewer than 150)
- Andrew Johnson (probably eight)
- Ulysses S. Grant (probably five)

These so-called great Americans patriots owned slaves.

So all you so-called patriots can quit with your questioning Obama's patriotism and calling him a racist!!!

Thank you, Dennis, my fellow American.

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"History is not false"

Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution...and I quote "three-fifths of all other person" - a reference to the counting of America's slaves as 3/5 of a human being, in terms of the apportionment of the representatives of Congress.

Excerpt from the Declaration of Independence...and I quote, "He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us" (slave revolts) "and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages"

America the beautiful...

"History is not false"

John - I find your comments divisive, but you're right.

Trying to divert attention from her lie.
we also have a choice about our spouse.

Not so fast Hillary Clinton. You can't change the subject from your big fat lie about Bosnia by invoking Pastor Wright back into the mix. But since you did take it there, how about mentioning the FACT that you and Bill did invite Pastor Wright to a prayer breakfast at the White House, in which Bill solicited his council the day after the MONICA LEWINSKY story broke. Bill took pictures with Pastor Wright and thanked him for everything. A lie is a lie Hillary. Why can't you just admit you lied and apologize. You prefer to insult the intellegence of your constituents by lying and creating a nicer sounding phrase for your lie such as "I mispoke." Young children are watching you as well as the world. Is this really the message you want to send them? You're saying that you have to lie, cheat and steal to get what you want. Is this the legacy you want to leave any grand children you may have. Now mother's all over the world will have to explain to their children that you don't lie and then say "oh, excuse me, I mispoke." Most Americans are smarter than that!

Poll: Obama way ahead in N.C.
21-point lead the largest so far
(Raleigh) News & Observer

Hillary Clinton in N.C. on Thursday
Barack Obama is way up in the latest Democratic tracking poll.

A survey by Public Policy Polling showed the presidential candidate with 55 percent to rival Hillary Clinton's 34 percent in North Carolina.

The results came after two high-profile speeches by Obama: One on Iraq in Fayetteville, and another in response to video of his minister, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, condemning America.

"This 21 point lead is the largest he has shown in any NC polling to date, and an indication that the Wright controversy isn't causing him any long term harm at least in this state," wrote pollster Tom Jensen on his blog.

The automated poll of 673 likely Democratic primary voters was conducted on March 24. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.8 percent. The Democratic polling firm is based in Raleigh.

In the March 17 poll, Obama led 44 to 43.

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I wish George Washington would have owned them all then we wouldn't be in this situation. If they love their mother Africa so much let them go back to that backwards waste of land. They're ungrateful.

Dennis in Orlando put the steroids down. Roid rage is a real danger get help immediately.

They have voted virtually the same, they have many of the same political stances. Everyone knows the differences in policy ideas are not so extremely Different. However she has the experience, the plans, and know how.
What is his plan, Change? That can mean anything. Change is open ended. Change is anyone but Bush. Please get over yourself. Cussing doesn't make you right it just shows you have no real basis for your ranting. Get out much?

Thomas Jefferson: "A comtemptible hypocrite" - Alexander Hamilton, January 16, 1800