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March 05, 2008 9:24 PM
Do you remember last Fall when Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, seemed to dis Mississippi?
The Obama campaign does.
What better evidence could you have that Clinton never thought this thing would go this long -- and that she would never, ever in her life have to campaign in Mississippi?
- jpt
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I love it when Clinton supporters say "So what about 'X' scandal??", everyone knows about it, it's all old news nothing new to report.
Oh, I see, so since the bad stuff is 'old', it doesn't matter any more. It's as if it just disappeared into the ether. Nothing to see here nope nope. It's like she's a *totally* different type of person now!
I'm really *REALLY* hoping Obama just sticks to questions about her claim of foreign policy roles in the White House, as well as if she read the WMD report when she voted for Iraq. You can confront someone and keep it clean.
If only Hillary tears at the party, the damage can be excised and repaired. If two start ripping at it, Democrats are toast.
Posted by: Decider | Mar 6, 2008 9:00:21 PM
MI
You want experience - you're stuck with McCain.
Hillary ain't got the kinda experience you are looking for.
She's have the political experience, i.e., how to kneecap an opponent. She knows the black arts just fine. Example: See NAFTAgate.
But as to actual experience she don't have any more than the other guy.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | Mar 6, 2008 1:49:09 PM
Plagiarism? Really? Let's not go there. What about the Harry & Louise ad that Obama plagiarized from the Republicans? What about Deval Patrick's speech that Obama also plagiarized?
I have no doubt that Obama can inspire. But I wish he waited a few more years before running for the highest office so voters can gauge his competency. These are difficult times, 2 ongoing wars, a dwindling economy, a sagging reputation from the rest of the world... it's a leap of faith for voters to just take his word (or speeches). Look what happened last time people voted for someone inexperienced... he did provide CHANGE, but it was change for the worse. Besides Bush, people should look at Deval Patrick as an example.
Posted by: MI | Mar 6, 2008 1:26:27 PM
I'll say it again: Hillary and those scandals are nothing new. She has been dragged through the mud yet time and time again she recovered. They've thrown everything at her and yet she's still standing. After everything she has gone through I don't think there's any scandal that you could throw at her that would make people think twice about voting for her. People still recognize the work she has done (Obama on the other hand only has his speech to try to carry him through). Obama on the other hand, who presents himself as squeaky clean, who has been put on a pedestal by his supporters, has nowhere to go but down once the Republicans are done with him. (And they can be vicious even to their own. Remember that rumor they spread about McCain having an illegitimate child? Swift boat on Kerry?)
I'd also be very interested to see how the debates between Obama & McCain play out.
Posted by: kate | Mar 6, 2008 12:21:10 PM
11-22 said "He will burn out like Mondale , who had simular results to Obama."
Wait a minute I thought she was running as Mondale this time. After all she plagarized the Mondale red phone ad.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | Mar 6, 2008 11:55:08 AM
I don't feel dissed by Obama. I'm just really sad that all of these people put all of this hate on the message boards. If you are trying to make him looked bad then you are doing a great job. i guess when its all said and done clinton and all of her supporters want need the black vote. It is just amazing to me it took a black man to try and unite a country and it is taking a white woman to divide. when it is all and said and done whether you are white or black we all have the same struggles.
Posted by: Sherelle Reid | Mar 6, 2008 11:51:28 AM
How can Mississippi even dare to open it's mouth having elected NO women EVER to Congress? To the Senate? As Governor? God Almighty! And Obami thinks he's going to gain ground "Attacking" Clinton with this? It's only going to call attention to Ole Miss's backwards (back woods?) ways!
Senator Clinton has a right to be shocked, and makes a good point that if they won't even give women a chance at basic levels, how could Miss. even relate to voting to a woman for President. Tell Obami to spend his time explaing his friendship and kick-back relationship to his pal REZKO.
Posted by: John Wayne | Mar 6, 2008 11:08:33 AM
I live in Texas,much of my family and friends are die hard republicans and did not bother to vote during the primary. Dems are dreaming if they for one minute think TX is going dem this year. It will never happen. get over it. The truth of the matter is that the Republicans don't have the problem the dems have, so they don't go out and vote. If u look at past years you can see the same trend.
Obama is dreaming , If he can't win the big dem states and 50% of Hillary supporters say they are voting for McCain if Obama Wins(which is what the polls are saying) Then I don't see Obama winning the national election.
He will burn out like Mondale , who had simular results to Obama.
Posted by: eleven22 | Mar 6, 2008 10:54:12 AM
robin, making things up now eh , what ever floats your boat. For the record, she has not been constantly putting down states. Obama fans are reaching far out there these days.
Posted by: eleven22 | Mar 6, 2008 10:48:27 AM
reading the comments of people from Obama church really make me doubting about the thing the media has been telling us all the time : well-educated? hmm, doesn't look so to me.
Posted by: nosense03 | Mar 6, 2008 10:35:27 AM
I could have sworn that the last Lt Gov, Amy Tuck was a woman.
My gosh Hillary wants to be the president and she constantly puts down states.
She will never get my vote.
Posted by: robin | Mar 6, 2008 10:33:25 AM
Republican dominated Mississippi does not have adequate diversity representation in its elected officials. I think most, if not all Mississippi Democrats would agree with that. Nice try, Jake, but we're not going to be offended by criticism of Republican administrations. Mississippi is at the bottom because it has been milked bone-dry by the likes of Haley Barbour.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 6, 2008 10:14:05 AM
vanchav you are kidding right? Less then 10% of the electorate showed up in the states. and why would the republicans come out to vote when we decides all ready who is our candidate. see we did not have racism like what Obama throws out, and crying like Hilary.
If there were Republicans that voted for Hilary in Texas, I think that is fair because your liberal press of yours was trying to control who the republicans voted for!
Also note the republicans in Texas have a normal Primary, not this 2 step deal allowing people to vote twice!
Posted by: spock | Mar 6, 2008 9:59:06 AM
vanchav, the point is, it's old news. Hillary with those scandals are nothing new, and yet people still voted for her. People are tired of them already. Obama on the other hand has barely been scratched. And the fact that he presents himself as Mr. Goody-two-shoes it would be a huge fall when a big scandal comes out. The Rezko trial has barely started and when every detail of his association with Obama becomes national news the Republicans will have more ammunition, plus the NAFTA fiasco was a really bad misstep. The fact that people think he's above everything, one little mistake would make people think twice when they suddenly realize that he's not all what he says he is. Couple that with his lack of experience then that's a really big problem for the voters.
Posted by: kate | Mar 6, 2008 9:52:58 AM
Kate said - So, bottomline: a Limbaugh endorsement for Hillary hurts her because undecided democrats will vote for Obama.
You may be right, but there still are those exit polls that suggest a lot of his losers were up to no good in TX. I'd hate to get associated with Ann Coulter, Limbaugh, Hannity and the other assorted lowlifes that have endorse Her.
At least Pennsylvania is a closed primary.
Posted by: HillarySpeaks4Me | Mar 6, 2008 9:52:12 AM
I find that argument about Obama winning the red states in November naive. One of the reasons the republican numbers are down is because they didn't have good choices. There was not one candidate who they really believed in, who they thought represented their values so a lot of them didn't bother to vote or were disillusioned. But I bet you come November these Republicans will be energized, there would be a lot of mudslinging between the two parties and republicans would realize the importance of retaining that white house. Do you really think that these red states will suddenly turn blue overnight? Politics have deep roots. If you have been a Republican and your party has always looked after your interests the only reason you turn your back on your party is if something very drastic happens to you and you realize that your party doesn't represent you anymore. Therefore I would have to conclude that come November those red states will remain red.
Posted by: kate | Mar 6, 2008 9:40:59 AM
Hillarys dirt is NOT all out there. Let me give you a few names the Republicans will capitolize on
Norman Hsu.
Peter Paul.
Mike Espy.
Frank Rich.
Craig Livingstone.
Paula Jones.
Linda Bloodworth Thomason.
Harry Thomason.
Ed Willey.
Cattle Futures.
Hugh Rodham.
Tony Rodham.
White... Water.
Vince Foster.
China-gate.
Travel-gate.
File-gate.
Right-wing conspiracy
Posted by: vanchav | Mar 6, 2008 9:32:06 AM
I think that's all mind games. A Limbaugh endorsement for a democrat is never a good thing and he knows that. Limbaugh endorsing Hillary would only hurt her and am sure it drove some domocrats who were on the fence to vote for Obama. And do you really think he's that powerful anyway for A LOT of people to listen to what he says? Perhaps some do, but only those who have plenty of time on their hands and would bother to waste their time to vote for a candidate they don't really like. The only reason people would do that is if it helps their agenda. I have a lot of Republican friends and all want Obama to win because they think he'll be easier to crush, unlike Hillary whose skeletons in the closet have already been paraded around and voters know about them already. Obama on the other hand is fresh meat and the Rezko deal plus the NAFTA blunder have already made them excited, and the Republicans haven't even started digging yet.
So, bottomline: a Limbaugh endorsement for Hillary hurts her because undecided democrats will vote for Obama. If indeed Limbaugh's audience listened to him I doubt there'd be a lot of these people who cared to vote for someone they absolutely hate to be in the white house.
Posted by: kate | Mar 6, 2008 9:24:52 AM
Here's the argument. The states Obama won ARE red states. But if you pay close attention, he had more voters then the Republican candidates. Chances are, we may win these states in the General Election. THE STATES CLINTON WON WILL VOTE DEMOCRATS ANYWAY...THE QUESTION IS, WHO CAN BRING NEW PEOPLE TO THE PARTY. THE ANSWER IS OBAMA. HE'S BROUGHT INDEP AND REPUB.
Posted by: vanchav | Mar 6, 2008 9:15:31 AM
It's not mean if it's true.
Maybe Mississippi needs to think about why it hasn't elected any women.
Posted by: s.b. | Mar 6, 2008 9:14:33 AM
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