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Hillary's Foreign Policy Memories
March 18, 2008 5:38 PM
She visited more than 80 counties as First Lady, so it's only natural that she'd confuse some facts here and there. Some of those facts have come under the microscope as of late -- as with her sniper-threatened landing in Bosnia, which comedian Sinbad has questioned.
Today Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, at an event with former Ambassador Joe Wilson, said, "I'm delighted to be here with Ambassador Wilson. He and I did travel together to Africa and, sort of, paved the way for the president's trip the following year, which was historic."
That Africa trip was in March 1997.
Wilson didn't start as Senior Director for African Affairs at the NSC until later that year.
Is it possible Clinton was confusing Wilson with Susan Rice, Wilson's predecessor, who did go with her on that trip?
Rice says yes.
"Actually, Senator Clinton may not recall this, but Joe Wilson did not start at the NSC until some months after her trip to Africa in 1997," Rice says in an email. "I was the senior NSC staffer who accompanied her on that trip."
Not a big deal.
Except for two reasons.
1) Rice is a senior adviser to Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, and has been harshly critical of the way Clinton has described her foreign policy bona fides, saying the former First Lady has exaggerated them considerably. (Neutral arbiters, such as Factcheck.org, agree.)
2) In hyping her foreign policy experience, Clinton's memories have run against those of other participants.
- jpt
UPDATE: Let me make clear: the trip Hillary Clinton made which "paved the way" for Bill Clinton's historic trip to Africa was in 1997. Bill Clinton's historic trip was in 1998.
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The 3am Foreign Policy Crisis Call
There was a call to the White House, and perhaps, in the dead of the night, April 1994. And Hillary, I would think from what she now says of her involvement, took the call. There was a nightmarish crisis; children were being dragged from their homes and schools and hacked to death, to be almost one million murders of innocents in 100 days. Hillary discussed the crisis with Bill, as he now admits. They kept the call to themselves and did not allow the utterance of the word "genocide". Was there a twinge of conscience? Hillary had the ear of the media and could have announced to the world community, in her clear voice, that genocide was raging in Rwanda. Does it take a village? It did not at 3am. In effect, she hung up the phone, turned off the light, closed her eyes; and as if having been awakened from a bad dream best forgotten, went back to sleep.
Posted by: Phil | Mar 23, 2008 11:41:36 AM
In fact, Ambassador Wilson, was a career diplomat of the kind one well knows. Good (Republican) family, average grade 'c' at University of California, Santa Barbara, majors in history volleyball and windsurfing, not quite bright enough to go into banking, the law, or politics so embarks on a socially acceptable diplomatic career - which is mainly a case of dead men's shoes - plucked from the obscurity of being US Ambassador to Gabon (where ? Sub-Saharan West Africa) by Bill Clinton. Under Bush DCM in Baghdad and thereafter Plamegate. Unsurprisingly now a Clinton supporter (next best thing for a disillusioned Republican) and has written questioning Obama's experience to be C-in-C.
Unsurprisingly, as DCM in Baghdad, Wilson had some responsibility for the faulty intelligence coming out of Iraq, but then, with their diplomats locked in the world of the Embassy compounds, US Missions are generally the last to know about anything affecting their host countries.
Posted by: M.A. Fleming | Mar 23, 2008 9:48:50 AM
The Irish called her claims at peacemaking as "silly". Only her campaign has backed her up on her stories. I most object to the Clinton subtle campaigning for McCain and that Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter are pulling for Hillary. They know she could never win the general election. Bill Richardson is protecting the party and the country with his endorsement of Obama.
Posted by: Maria | Mar 23, 2008 1:49:01 AM
Hillary appears to be a pathological liar who has betrayed her own party. Her White records reflect little experience and she is dragging the party down to get her way. A pity it took a woman to divide the Democrats.
Posted by: Suzanne | Mar 23, 2008 1:41:46 AM
It is time for Hillary to drop out of the race. She cannot and will not win. Continuing to stay in the race at this point just damages the chances for a democratic win in November. It was a great race, but it's over. Hillary should save a shred of self respect and drop out now.
Posted by: chouwalker | Mar 23, 2008 12:26:22 AM
If Hillary is counting her time in the White House as experience, then can't Chelsea also claim she has 8 years of experience too?
Plus, Chelsea accompanied Hillary on a lot of the international trips..so perhaps Chelsea can also claim she helped broker peace in Ireland and dodged ficticious bullets in Bosnia!
Posted by: Greg | Mar 22, 2008 6:48:34 PM
Why is everyone in shock to finally realize the truth, it's very simple The Clintons are liars and will do or say ANYTHING to get into the white. Even destroy their own party. I only wish that the blacked out pages could come to light. Even with the blacked out pages, she's still being caught in lie after lie. If you truely believe that she has all of this experience then the next time you need surgery, let your surgeon's wife operate on you!
Posted by: Sulli | Mar 22, 2008 6:19:10 PM
She was First Lady during the Rwandan genocide and she never spoke up. I don't remember her even giving a press conference expressing concern at the catastrophic loss of life. If she was so important to American foreign policy, what was her role in Rwanda? Bill Clinton said he was sorry. She is claiming a significant role in great decisions so what was her role in this one?
Posted by: Karen | Mar 22, 2008 5:01:20 PM
Clinton lies coming to roost. It's unbelievable that some of her supporters are actually trying to defend these gratuitous misrepresentations of hers. I repeat that as someone who used to be a devoted supporter of the Clintons, this kind of thing has turned me off completely.
Posted by: Sarah | Mar 22, 2008 2:36:08 PM
I have to admit I am truly enjoying watching Dems doing it to Dems. The Clintons could do not wrong (and could do any babes he wanted) with Dems blessings, but now that the fight is internal, it is just a beautiful thing to watch.
It is sort of like the case where you see a family with a pedophile in it and the family protects the creep....then he molests one of the family members kids and all hell breaks lose. Operation Chaos!
Posted by: Mogo | Mar 22, 2008 6:56:48 AM
Yikes, can Hillary please re-read her own biography and/or the 11,000 pages of her First Lady schedules? Better to be accurate and modest than to exaggerate and seem foolish. Does she want to be remembered as the self-hyped candidate, "All words, no action..." hmmm... yikes.
btw - can the media please move to the question of how we are all going to survive economically in the next few years? that's the real question that keeps all of us up at night.
Posted by: Clara | Mar 21, 2008 7:21:21 PM
There is no Hillary '08. It is statistically over and I, for one, couldn't be happier about it. She has decided that it will be her or McCain and Bill is right there with her. That displays neither the prudence nor sacrifice of true patriotism. Her outright lies, exaggerations and suggestive hedging (yeah, she wasn't sure Obama was Christian), are unacceptable to most voters. If the Clinton apologists among you would put as much time into researching the FACTS about Obama as you do defending the miscalculated mess that the Clinton campaign has become, you might feel a hell of a lot better on inauguration day.
Posted by: Steeves | Mar 21, 2008 5:57:39 PM
Since when is being First Lady hard work? She had NO National Security Clearance, was not briefed on Cabinet meeting, and had no significant responsibilities in the administration (except for the health care fiasco... we know how that ended up). Her so called "experience" is a sham. Barack has more years of elected office. I'd say she's the least qualified...
Posted by: Fra | Mar 21, 2008 5:06:10 PM
gtt
If you are going to hold her sitting on the Board at WalMart against her, I am sure you know that Obama's wife worked for the largest one of the largest WalMart distributors, Treehouse, right?
As for McCain, he is in the bag with any corporation that will have him.
Hillary always has to take twice the heat and work twice as hard, just look at her utterly exhaustive schedule as First Lady!
Posted by: PaseoDelMar | Mar 21, 2008 12:15:24 PM
Yes, Senator Clinton has experience, but to what end ? And more importantly, with which group? Clinton is not the progress leader that we need. She cut her teeth with the WalMart Bd of Directors and the DLC. She is republican lite, which explains why she was a Goldwater Girl while in college !
Posted by: gtt | Mar 21, 2008 10:59:40 AM
This is the meanest blog on the internet and such a pity that is in this very important race to determine who will become the leader of the free world. One thing for sure, this Obama guy is not a patriot, or he would not have been sitting in that church listening to his preacher drum on and on denigrating our country.
Posted by: valerie | Mar 20, 2008 9:07:02 PM
Lauren, think about what you're saying, as there's no contradiction to the criticism of Hillary. She walked into the White House with no significant experience at any policy issues other than serving tea in Arkansas, and people rightly said she had no business running key policy intiatives, which she botched. (E.g., national health care.) The new schedules show she was given little substantive responsibility after that, and so she cannot know claim she has enough real experience from those years to trump Obama's many years in Illinois politics and community affairs.
By your logic, if I was criticized for deciding to do brain surgery (i.e., trying to do too much) but later tried to be selected as surgeon general of the United States but was turned down because I didn't have enough experience, people who argued that I shouldn't have the SG job are treating me unfairly. Face it -- she has not worked her way through the trenches and she has not had 3 a.m. crises.
Oh, and for you "Obama has a thin resume" types, compare his resume to Bill Clinton's in 1992. It's better. Go listen to his speech from yesterday, and see who has the force of intellectual will to comprehend real -- not politically manufactured -- issues in this country.
Posted by: Ursa MM | Mar 20, 2008 3:07:03 AM
This is classic - what they always do to Hillary.
As I recall quite clearly, when she was in the White House, she was always being accused of doing too much; of being too involved. She was criticized relentlessly for that, and there was pressure on her from outside political forces to do less - to be more of a traditional first lady.
Now that she is running for office, against a candidate who has had only 3 years national experience - all her years of national experience is being nit-picked and scrutinized, and she is being accused of not doing enough.
Hillary is always put between a rock and a hard place.
That is why I am so proud of her.
And CBS's "For the Record," did prove that Hillary has indeed had 35 years experience for all of you hard heads who don't want to learn the truth.
I actually find a lot of the Obama camps criticism absurd - they frame their arguments against Hillary as though nothing short of her having already been President, or a prominent policy maker in all her foreign and national experience would qualify her to be commander in chief.
When Barack has had none of this experience. It's absurd of them truly to question hers, when she actually has some, and their candidate has none.
The bottomline: She has had much more national and international policy discussions, exposure, and experience than Barack.
Sorry if you don't want to face reality.
Posted by: Lauren | Mar 19, 2008 10:43:45 PM
James Andre:
She never said it wasn't o.k to check her experience. She has a problem with the constant "nickpicking". As the P.M. hisself said about the part she played in Northern Ireland. He said that he spoke with obama and obama has stated understanding as to her experience. Mr. Ahern also said that HE doesn't understand our need to "nitpick" her experience. In other words unlike the 1990's we are looking foolish again to other countries and Heads of State. Non of which obama has EVER met. Not any.. not Canada not Mexico..NOONE ANY WHERE!!!
Hillary '08
Posted by: Brenda P. | Mar 19, 2008 9:16:34 PM
Thunder
Again another misstatement. She authorized the ability to go to war. But she gave a speech on the floor of the Senate that day (much like State Senator Obama not U.S. Senator obama ..who had no authority to vote that day..gave just a speech)and said that it was to be used as a last resort. She has since said, as have many Senators, a few that back obama that the intelligence that SEATED U.S SENATORS received was flawed and that she would take that vote back now. Also if she knew then what she and all America now knows she would have never given him the authority to go. As a last resort or otherwise!!
obama hisself has said that he was aligned with bush on his handling of the war in 2004, and that he wasn't sure how he would have voted had he had the secret intelligence and authority to vote at that time!!!
Words...just words!!!
Hillary '08
Posted by: Brenda P. | Mar 19, 2008 9:00:20 PM
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