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House Democratic Leader: Obama and Clinton Attacks Hurting the Party

March 13, 2008 5:09 PM

As any avid viewer of The Wire knows, House Majority Leader Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Maryland, is an able and important politician.

As such, when he speaks he tends to speak carefully.

George Stephanopoulos, who's anchoring World News tonight, forwards me this interview  Hoyer did with the Washington Post's Chris Cillliza, in which Hoyer seems to be sounding the alarm about the ugly gender and racial politics in the Democratic contest.

Betwixt and between the artful diction, it seems to me, is the sound of an alarm.

"When they attack one another its not just an attack on the other candidate, it is taken by women or by African-Americans in a more personal sense," Hoyer says. "To that extent I think a continued clash between the 2 candidates, which is inevitable in any campaign, is not particularly helpful."

When a major Dem says something like that on-camera, it's pretty serious business.

We're taking a look at race and the race tonight on World News.

- jpt

* UPDATE: This was originally titled "House Democratic Leader: Obama and Clinton Attacks Destroying the Party," which I said right off the bat was an overstatement. Some readers, including at least one with Hoyer's office, protested that the headline was misleading (even though I said it was an overstatement.) Whatever, I changed it.

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Hey Marie,
No one is niave. The fact is, the contest has gone to a place it DID NOT have to go. It has taken on themes it DID NOT have to take.....the list is long. But one thing to keep in mind, the things that have been done and said, SHOULD NEVER be directed at another MEMBER of the same damn party. It doesn't matter what the party is. You don't stab your brother! And, that is what has happened thus far....

The people outside of the campaign, well they are just being passionate about their chosen candidate. Of course some people are stupid and shouldn't be voting as they go on blind loyalty and illogical reasoning but the rest are just passionate.

My point, niave is not at the root of this, being overly ambitious and feeling entitled to something is....


Brad

Posted by: Brad | Mar 14, 2008 8:22:53 PM

is this country so naive to think that if you ran a white woman and a black man you would not have controversy they were gonna hold hands and hug no its a campaign they are going to come out slugging like all campaigns do if not why run at all if you cannot put up a fight you must have tha spirit to run a country unless this was a beauty contest.

Posted by: marie | Mar 14, 2008 3:31:34 PM

It is about time a Democratic leader stood up and said this. Where are the others? Seems to me they are too afraid to speak for fear of offending the candidates or are too wrapped up in supporting their candidate that they cannot (or refuse to) see what this has done to the party. Or, until recent events, they viewed the rancor that was developing as just normal politics. It is not and was not ever since Bill opened his mouth during the South Carolina primary. More Democratic leaders need to speak up because right now the tone of the current campaign is driving Independents like myself to McCain (as much as I dread the Republicans!)

Posted by: John | Mar 14, 2008 9:51:12 AM

How can I trust someone who won't reveal their tax return, earmark record (yes Obama revealed his yesterday), the "experience" they've obtain as a first lady???

How can i trust someone who seems to have multiple personalities???

How can I trust someone who has a shady past??? etc Juanita Broaddrick


I believe at this point, Obama should be the nominee. Blue states will remain "blue" states. The question is, can we turn several red and purple states into blue states??? Yes. Obama has demonstrated leadership, unitification, and strength. By prolonging this process, voters are beginning to take the candidancy personal. If a nominee is not chosen NOW, no matter who recieves the nomination, they will not get the supporters of the other candidate. I believe if Obama choses Edward, he will gain majority of Hillary supporters. If Hillary is the candidate, she will LOSE the black, young, and independent voters. This would be fatal.

Posted by: Vanessa | Mar 14, 2008 9:28:11 AM

to all obama supporters,before you extole your guy any more and knock hillary i strongly suggest that you watch rev. wrights various sermons especially the ones where he GD's america and the other where he says we are a terrorist nation.you can say well he is just a adviser and other candidates spiritual advisers have said horrible things.THIS IS NOT THE SAME as obama has sat in those pews for 20 years every sunday and contibutes about $2000.00 a month to his church.i for one if i heard such hate and racist speech coming from my minister would get up and not return.by staying in his church and continuing to contribute money to the church he gives tacit approval to rev wrights statements.if you obama supporters think he is electable after this in novemeber then i beleive you dont know the american public.WE WILL NEVER vote for someone with such antiamerican ties and if you think the republicans wont play thease statements daily then you have a short memory.

Posted by: don tufts | Mar 14, 2008 9:22:01 AM

What is hurting the party is Obama's constant use of the race card. I do not have any doubts that he would not be standing here if he were not BLACK. Frankly, he has been given a free pass and cannot be questioned even about his relationship to Rev. Wright, Rezko, etc.

I'm sicker after I learn all the stuff about this guy

Posted by: Mike | Mar 14, 2008 8:58:47 AM

Obama's campaign ran a terrific race when they peeled away the AA votes from Hillary with the 4 page memo stating the ways to race bait the Clintons. Then, the MSM fell in love with Obama and the Clintons could not say anything without being labeled racists. This all reminds me of the Bush campaigns. Rove and Bush were great at campaigns but are horrible at governing. Obama will probably be the nominee but the Democrats are finished. The DNC, along with the MSM and the stupid people of this country who fell for this BS, did it again!

Posted by: tiffany | Mar 14, 2008 8:43:14 AM

Sen. Obama's message includes the need for using good judgement. He is always touting the fact that his having been against the war in Iraq from day one as being an example of having good judgement. Yet for 20 years Sen. Obama has been sitting in the pew of his church listening to the vile anti-American hate speech by his pastor, and very close friend, the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. Do your homework people. Check the Internet for some of the excerpts of the Rev. Dr. Wright's sermons. There is very little, if any, difference from his sermons and those of Louis Farrakhan. That is not surprising since the Rev. Dr. Wright is a long time supporter of Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam. It is difficult for me to imagine how an individual could remain at a church for so long if one didn't BELIEVE in the message of his pastor. And if he doesn't believe in this anti-American hate speech, then is that not an example of extremely poor judgement? Wake up America! A vote for Sen. Obama may end up being a vote for everything Louis Farrakhan believes in (in spite of Sen. Obama's announced rejection of Louis Farrakhan).

Posted by: James Danley | Mar 14, 2008 3:28:15 AM

Former Democrat,

Thank you for an intelligent and well written analysis of the situation.

Posted by: SuziQ | Mar 14, 2008 1:46:55 AM

Mary_DC,
The Maryland political crowd worries me, because historically they've been willing to sacrifrice the public's interests to line their own pockets. At least that's what I've been able to tell from the news stories over the last few decades, and plenty of scandals in the dust. Frankly, I hade never attributed such behavior to OBAMA, but now I'm starting to get worried, particularly because the REZKO relationship looks to be of that same ilk. What do you think?

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 13, 2008 11:42:04 PM

Agreed with WestCoastMessenger; thats the same machine that worked behind doors since Obamas arrival to launch his candidacy, the same machine led by Kennedy, Daschle, Kerry, Hoyer and others long time Washington insiders. The same insiders that were responsible for the latest Democratic defeats and the same leadership that has failed us all lately since they took the majority in Congress. All they are jumping in the bandwagon of CHANGE knowing they will do nothing to change. That machine is the one that resented Bill Clinton leadership, derailed Dean and Edwards runs efforts and will do anything to destroy Hillary.

Posted by: Mary_DC | Mar 13, 2008 11:35:39 PM

"SJ",
I read most of the posts here and yours really stood out - the fact that we are having this struggle because OBAMA was not sufficiently screened and vetted before being set loose in a national campaign. Yes, the guy is a great speaker, and there is where it stops. I've seen Presidents, I've known Presidents, Presidents have been friends of mine, and "SJ", he's no President.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 13, 2008 11:27:44 PM

LOOKS LIKE the Baltimore crowd, including Steny Hoyer and Nancy Pelosi (former Baltimore resident) are teaming up like a pack of lions to advance their man's cause, under the guise of DEMOCRATIC leadership. The congressional approval rating is abysmal, these "leaders" have never stood up to George Bush and we're supposed to listen to them? The only leadership I see in the DEMOCRATIC party right now is HILLARY CLINTON herself, who first and foremost is responsive to the voters' interests, whether it is the disenfranchised FLORIDA and MICHIGAN voter, or any place in America by God, because AMERICA is a DEMOCRACTIC nation, indeed. Let's get the game on and let the gallery continue to rattle their sabers on the sideline.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 13, 2008 11:19:57 PM

Dogsolider: Glad to see they let you out of the box! It looks like Obama has started up those race reeducation camps and my girl Hillary was taken captive. Looks like they broke her and forced to to make all of these apologies from Ferraro to would you beleive it even apologized for Bush's failure to help Katrina victims. Well at least we know John and Hillary held out as long as they could but the media torture was too much to handle. We can forgive them because unlike Obama we know that they have always been pround of america!

Posted by: russell | Mar 13, 2008 11:01:01 PM

iT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE PUBLIC OFFICES HELD BY THOSE WHO CARED ABOUT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN.
HOWEVER THE AVERAGE AMERICAN DOES NOT DESERVE TO HAVE THE GOVERNMENT CARE ABOUT THEM.
RUN FOR OFFICE AND GET IN WITH LESS THAN 25 PERCENT OF VOTERS VOTING.
THEN ALONG COMES THE DEMOCRATS WITH ONE CANIDATE ENDORSED BY THE ESTABLISHED PARTY LEADERS.
THE OTHER CANIDATE IS ENDORSED BY WANT TO BE PARTY LEADERS WILLING TO SACRIFICE THE ESTABLISHED LEADERS.
DISTRACTION IS ALL IT IS.
ALL POSITIVE, AND NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR DAILY LIVES IS RESULT OF CONGRESS ACTIONS OR LACK OF.
IF YOUR A DEMOCRATE UNDER 40 VOTE OBAMA AND YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.
IF YOUR OVER 40 VOTE HILLARY BECAUSE IF YOU DONT YOU WONT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.
AMERICA NEEDS THE NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY OBAMA REPRESENTS, NOT SO MUCH A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT.

Posted by: DAN | Mar 13, 2008 10:51:29 PM

Absolutely ridiculous to think that Edwards will endorse Obama, why? after Obama campaign strategist was spinning and bashing Edwards campaign and while Obama himself was snobbing Edwards and mocking his campaign? The Obama campaign is the one that have used the race card from the beginning, they are using it as the Teflon to crash any criticism. Axlerod succeeded in labeling Edwards as the "white man" and successfully twisted Clinton comments to presented him as a racist, which is a total crazy to think that. It worked with Edwards and now with Hillary; but it won't work in the general election, Obama's ambitions and cockiness are beyond imagination and he will do anything to try to win, he was preparing this way before going to Washington.
I have been an Edwards supporter and definately will not vote for Obama, ever!

Posted by: Tony_Chicago | Mar 13, 2008 10:41:21 PM

IF OBAMA DISAGREES WITH REV. WRIGHT'S TEACHINGS OF HATRED, WHY DIDN'T HE CHANGE CHURCHES TEN YEARS AGO? He keeps talking about CHANGE! Why has he chosen to remain in this church for the past 20 years? Isn’t it racist to belong to a black racist, anti-Semitic church, whose pastor, Jeremiah Wright, and its advocate, Louis Farrakhan, spew anti-White, anti-Jewish, anti-Hispanic, anti-Asian and anti-American rhetoric? Obama is dividing the Democratic Party and the citizens of America. Is he a wolf in sheep’s clothing?

Posted by: PROUDAMERICAN2008 | Mar 13, 2008 10:33:05 PM

Hilary Clinton has no dignity left. She has been Monica Lewinskied once too often.

Her cheating husband has repeatedly robbed Hilary of all dignity with many public humiliations with the 'other women'.
So now Hilary Clinton is being allowed to take out her pain on the Democratic Party and the nation.

If the witch can't win, then she will make an evil effort to see Americans 'enjoying' McBush III by wrecking the Dems.
In this way, ALL Americans can feel/share Hilary's years of husband-inflicted marital pain.

And what's worse is that the silly super delegates refuse to use their votes to drive a stake in the hear of Hilary's costly campaign!

Posted by: New Yorker | Mar 13, 2008 10:32:34 PM

Nothing new. Rockefeller and Reagan fought for control of the GOP. The Democrat party is at a similar crossroad. Do we nominate a far leftwing peacenik, America hating liberal like Obama or a moderate realist like CLINTON?

I have not seen too many real supporters of Obama here. Most of his "supporters" simply hate the Clintons or are the anti-war peaceniks blame America first crowd (Kunich types)

If the party is split so what? I will vote for McCain if Obama is on the ballot.

Posted by: geevill | Mar 13, 2008 10:31:23 PM

Obama has given money to Jay Rockerfellers campaign!

Posted by: russell | Mar 13, 2008 10:30:04 PM

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