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Hey Marie,
No one is niave. The fact is, the contest has gone to a place it DID NOT have to go. It has taken on themes it DID NOT have to take.....the list is long. But one thing to keep in mind, the things that have been done and said, SHOULD NEVER be directed at another MEMBER of the same damn party. It doesn't matter what the party is. You don't stab your brother! And, that is what has happened thus far....

The people outside of the campaign, well they are just being passionate about their chosen candidate. Of course some people are stupid and shouldn't be voting as they go on blind loyalty and illogical reasoning but the rest are just passionate.

My point, niave is not at the root of this, being overly ambitious and feeling entitled to something is....

Brad

is this country so naive to think that if you ran a white woman and a black man you would not have controversy they were gonna hold hands and hug no its a campaign they are going to come out slugging like all campaigns do if not why run at all if you cannot put up a fight you must have tha spirit to run a country unless this was a beauty contest.

It is about time a Democratic leader stood up and said this. Where are the others? Seems to me they are too afraid to speak for fear of offending the candidates or are too wrapped up in supporting their candidate that they cannot (or refuse to) see what this has done to the party. Or, until recent events, they viewed the rancor that was developing as just normal politics. It is not and was not ever since Bill opened his mouth during the South Carolina primary. More Democratic leaders need to speak up because right now the tone of the current campaign is driving Independents like myself to McCain (as much as I dread the Republicans!)

How can I trust someone who won't reveal their tax return, earmark record (yes Obama revealed his yesterday), the "experience" they've obtain as a first lady???

How can i trust someone who seems to have multiple personalities???

How can I trust someone who has a shady past??? etc Juanita Broaddrick

I believe at this point, Obama should be the nominee. Blue states will remain "blue" states. The question is, can we turn several red and purple states into blue states??? Yes. Obama has demonstrated leadership, unitification, and strength. By prolonging this process, voters are beginning to take the candidancy personal. If a nominee is not chosen NOW, no matter who recieves the nomination, they will not get the supporters of the other candidate. I believe if Obama choses Edward, he will gain majority of Hillary supporters. If Hillary is the candidate, she will LOSE the black, young, and independent voters. This would be fatal.

to all obama supporters,before you extole your guy any more and knock hillary i strongly suggest that you watch rev. wrights various sermons especially the ones where he GD's america and the other where he says we are a terrorist nation.you can say well he is just a adviser and other candidates spiritual advisers have said horrible things.THIS IS NOT THE SAME as obama has sat in those pews for 20 years every sunday and contibutes about $2000.00 a month to his church.i for one if i heard such hate and racist speech coming from my minister would get up and not return.by staying in his church and continuing to contribute money to the church he gives tacit approval to rev wrights statements.if you obama supporters think he is electable after this in novemeber then i beleive you dont know the american public.WE WILL NEVER vote for someone with such antiamerican ties and if you think the republicans wont play thease statements daily then you have a short memory.

What is hurting the party is Obama's constant use of the race card. I do not have any doubts that he would not be standing here if he were not BLACK. Frankly, he has been given a free pass and cannot be questioned even about his relationship to Rev. Wright, Rezko, etc.

I'm sicker after I learn all the stuff about this guy

Obama's campaign ran a terrific race when they peeled away the AA votes from Hillary with the 4 page memo stating the ways to race bait the Clintons. Then, the MSM fell in love with Obama and the Clintons could not say anything without being labeled racists. This all reminds me of the Bush campaigns. Rove and Bush were great at campaigns but are horrible at governing. Obama will probably be the nominee but the Democrats are finished. The DNC, along with the MSM and the stupid people of this country who fell for this BS, did it again!

Sen. Obama's message includes the need for using good judgement. He is always touting the fact that his having been against the war in Iraq from day one as being an example of having good judgement. Yet for 20 years Sen. Obama has been sitting in the pew of his church listening to the vile anti-American hate speech by his pastor, and very close friend, the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. Do your homework people. Check the Internet for some of the excerpts of the Rev. Dr. Wright's sermons. There is very little, if any, difference from his sermons and those of Louis Farrakhan. That is not surprising since the Rev. Dr. Wright is a long time supporter of Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam. It is difficult for me to imagine how an individual could remain at a church for so long if one didn't BELIEVE in the message of his pastor. And if he doesn't believe in this anti-American hate speech, then is that not an example of extremely poor judgement? Wake up America! A vote for Sen. Obama may end up being a vote for everything Louis Farrakhan believes in (in spite of Sen. Obama's announced rejection of Louis Farrakhan).

Former Democrat,

Thank you for an intelligent and well written analysis of the situation.

Mary_DC,
The Maryland political crowd worries me, because historically they've been willing to sacrifrice the public's interests to line their own pockets. At least that's what I've been able to tell from the news stories over the last few decades, and plenty of scandals in the dust. Frankly, I hade never attributed such behavior to OBAMA, but now I'm starting to get worried, particularly because the REZKO relationship looks to be of that same ilk. What do you think?

Agreed with WestCoastMessenger; thats the same machine that worked behind doors since Obamas arrival to launch his candidacy, the same machine led by Kennedy, Daschle, Kerry, Hoyer and others long time Washington insiders. The same insiders that were responsible for the latest Democratic defeats and the same leadership that has failed us all lately since they took the majority in Congress. All they are jumping in the bandwagon of CHANGE knowing they will do nothing to change. That machine is the one that resented Bill Clinton leadership, derailed Dean and Edwards runs efforts and will do anything to destroy Hillary.

"SJ",
I read most of the posts here and yours really stood out - the fact that we are having this struggle because OBAMA was not sufficiently screened and vetted before being set loose in a national campaign. Yes, the guy is a great speaker, and there is where it stops. I've seen Presidents, I've known Presidents, Presidents have been friends of mine, and "SJ", he's no President.

LOOKS LIKE the Baltimore crowd, including Steny Hoyer and Nancy Pelosi (former Baltimore resident) are teaming up like a pack of lions to advance their man's cause, under the guise of DEMOCRATIC leadership. The congressional approval rating is abysmal, these "leaders" have never stood up to George Bush and we're supposed to listen to them? The only leadership I see in the DEMOCRATIC party right now is HILLARY CLINTON herself, who first and foremost is responsive to the voters' interests, whether it is the disenfranchised FLORIDA and MICHIGAN voter, or any place in America by God, because AMERICA is a DEMOCRACTIC nation, indeed. Let's get the game on and let the gallery continue to rattle their sabers on the sideline.

Dogsolider: Glad to see they let you out of the box! It looks like Obama has started up those race reeducation camps and my girl Hillary was taken captive. Looks like they broke her and forced to to make all of these apologies from Ferraro to would you beleive it even apologized for Bush's failure to help Katrina victims. Well at least we know John and Hillary held out as long as they could but the media torture was too much to handle. We can forgive them because unlike Obama we know that they have always been pround of america!

iT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE PUBLIC OFFICES HELD BY THOSE WHO CARED ABOUT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN.
HOWEVER THE AVERAGE AMERICAN DOES NOT DESERVE TO HAVE THE GOVERNMENT CARE ABOUT THEM.
RUN FOR OFFICE AND GET IN WITH LESS THAN 25 PERCENT OF VOTERS VOTING.
THEN ALONG COMES THE DEMOCRATS WITH ONE CANIDATE ENDORSED BY THE ESTABLISHED PARTY LEADERS.
THE OTHER CANIDATE IS ENDORSED BY WANT TO BE PARTY LEADERS WILLING TO SACRIFICE THE ESTABLISHED LEADERS.
DISTRACTION IS ALL IT IS.
ALL POSITIVE, AND NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR DAILY LIVES IS RESULT OF CONGRESS ACTIONS OR LACK OF.
IF YOUR A DEMOCRATE UNDER 40 VOTE OBAMA AND YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.
IF YOUR OVER 40 VOTE HILLARY BECAUSE IF YOU DONT YOU WONT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.
AMERICA NEEDS THE NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY OBAMA REPRESENTS, NOT SO MUCH A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT.

Absolutely ridiculous to think that Edwards will endorse Obama, why? after Obama campaign strategist was spinning and bashing Edwards campaign and while Obama himself was snobbing Edwards and mocking his campaign? The Obama campaign is the one that have used the race card from the beginning, they are using it as the Teflon to crash any criticism. Axlerod succeeded in labeling Edwards as the "white man" and successfully twisted Clinton comments to presented him as a racist, which is a total crazy to think that. It worked with Edwards and now with Hillary; but it won't work in the general election, Obama's ambitions and cockiness are beyond imagination and he will do anything to try to win, he was preparing this way before going to Washington.
I have been an Edwards supporter and definately will not vote for Obama, ever!

IF OBAMA DISAGREES WITH REV. WRIGHT'S TEACHINGS OF HATRED, WHY DIDN'T HE CHANGE CHURCHES TEN YEARS AGO? He keeps talking about CHANGE! Why has he chosen to remain in this church for the past 20 years? Isn’t it racist to belong to a black racist, anti-Semitic church, whose pastor, Jeremiah Wright, and its advocate, Louis Farrakhan, spew anti-White, anti-Jewish, anti-Hispanic, anti-Asian and anti-American rhetoric? Obama is dividing the Democratic Party and the citizens of America. Is he a wolf in sheep’s clothing?

Hilary Clinton has no dignity left. She has been Monica Lewinskied once too often.

Her cheating husband has repeatedly robbed Hilary of all dignity with many public humiliations with the 'other women'.
So now Hilary Clinton is being allowed to take out her pain on the Democratic Party and the nation.

If the witch can't win, then she will make an evil effort to see Americans 'enjoying' McBush III by wrecking the Dems.
In this way, ALL Americans can feel/share Hilary's years of husband-inflicted marital pain.

And what's worse is that the silly super delegates refuse to use their votes to drive a stake in the hear of Hilary's costly campaign!

Nothing new. Rockefeller and Reagan fought for control of the GOP. The Democrat party is at a similar crossroad. Do we nominate a far leftwing peacenik, America hating liberal like Obama or a moderate realist like CLINTON?

I have not seen too many real supporters of Obama here. Most of his "supporters" simply hate the Clintons or are the anti-war peaceniks blame America first crowd (Kunich types)

If the party is split so what? I will vote for McCain if Obama is on the ballot.

Obama has given money to Jay Rockerfellers campaign!

It is interesting that the attacks have been coming from the Clintons from day one; yet Obama's name gets prime billing with this cheap reporting? LOL

First they accuse Obama of being 'soft' when he normally brush aside the childish, time-wasting and menopausal/schizophrenic (one day 'sweet', another day 'sour', another day psycho) attacks from the Clintons.
Then when Obama rightly takes police action against the wrongdoing Clintons, it is called an 'attack'?

It is THE INDIVIDUAL WHO DRAWS FIRST BLOOD that is the 'attacker'!
Those who respond with the 'rule of law' are taking POLICE ACTIONS, and rightly so!

Posted by: Truth,

You are absolutely correct. However, you left out the fact that there is NOTHING the Democratic party can do to win come November. There will be no Dem. victory. Mark my words, the long race will kill any chances of a win. I hope the dummies of Texas and Ohio are happy.

One of them really doesn’t have a chance. and is counting on the supers being bribed and bullied and pulling off a last minute win. I got news for you if that happens you’re going to have an other Republican in the oval office for an other 4 years. Stop all this bull crap and backing a someone who is a dead horse and won’t admit it because they were suppose to win and of coarse they are the same gender

YOU ARE DISTROYING THE PARTY!!!
YOU ARE DISTROYING THE PARTY!!!
YOU ARE DISTROYING THE PARTY!!!

Losing Hilary Clinton is still in the campaign (and we all know why); yet the congresswoman mindlessly claimed to the effect, "Obama wouldn't be where he's at if he white man .... OR A WOMAN"!

Isn't Hilary Clinton A WOMAN? lol
And isn't Hilary Clinton the loser and very much in the same spot as Barack Obama, and getting as much media coverage as Obama?

There is no way that an American OF ANY ETHNIC GROUP OR GENDER could not have ran a similar grassroots campaign as Barack Obama.

Only, most US (master-servant) politicians rather run a 'top down' campaign, where they treat the voters as extras in their campaign.
So to draw attention to pigmentation and gender and ignore Obama's astuteness is ignorant and plain racist.

It is amazing that too many Americans are not bright enough to appreciate what a Harvard Law Degree and a university professor of Constitutional Law says about the intellect and capacity of one with such a lofty status.

When brains get old, they don't work as well.

Losing Hilary Clinton is still in the campaign (and we all know why); yet the congresswoman mindlessly claimed to the effect, "Obama wouldn't be where he's at if he white man .... OR A WOMAN"!

Isn't Hilary Clinton A WOMAN? lol
And isn't Hilary Clinton the loser and very much in the same spot as Barack Obama, and getting as much media coverage as Obama?

There is no way that an American OF ANY ETHNIC GROUP OR GENDER could not have ran a similar grassroots campaign as Barack Obama.

Only, most US (master-servant) politicians rather run a 'top down' campaign, where they treat the voters as extras in their campaign.
So to draw attention to pigmentation and gender and ignore Obama's astuteness is ignorant and plain racist.

It is amazing that too many Americans are not bright enough to appreciate what a Harvard Law Degree and a university professor of Constitutional Law says about the intellect and capacity of one with such a lofty status.

When brains get old, they don't work as well.

Obama and Clinton Attacks Hurting the Party nope I would not say so, what is hurting the party is that they did not screen Obama well enough so they are going to pay the price for that.

Taking a unknown candidate with a radical pastor and very questionable associates is fodder for the Republicans, "God dam America' is not going to be forgotten anytime soon, maybe what the DNC needs to do is spend some time looking at the blogs and see exactly what is being said.

Ugh..too many OBamabots here demanding Hillary's head on a platter and she needs to quit immediately...lol
Why should she? Obama cannot secure the nomination without the super delegates either. So why should she throw it in when over 5 million people plus Florida and Michigan have not yet voted.
What a bunch of whiners and spoil sports. No one was calling for Obama to drop out when Hillary was 200 delegates ahead. Relax, it is going all the way to convention, so get used to it.
If Obama is so weak that Hillary can stop him from becoming the nominee, imagine what the republicans will do to this neophyte. He won't stand a chance in the general election. Of course when he loses in a landslide, no problem. We can all blame that mean old nasty witch Hillary for everything.

Mara-I take no offense. I suppose things will go on like they are until we the people demand differently. That time has not yet arrived and I do not see a time when we can say to heck with Hillary, to heck with Obama, and to heck with McCain. Then we'll get their attention and perhaps they'll actually speak to the issues that matter for us all. Only then do we actually know who can deal with the real issues we face. Until then good luck.

So, Obama decides to show up (for once) to assume his obligations to voters and the American people, and we are supposed to be impressed?

Oh, yeah, professed Obama supporter and Clinton hater Chris Dodd decides to place Obama's name on a bill with his to make it look like either of them has spent sufficient time at their day jobs?

Sorry, I need a bit more that patronage for what we pay these people for their lack of a work ethic.

Looks like Michigan may get the vote on the third.

Two Democratic Senators and one Republican who have forgotten their respective responsibilties to constituents and the United States as a whole. They finally decide to show up for their elected positions, or "day jobs" as unbiased media notes.

Would it be too much to ask that Senators Clinton, McCain, and Obama try to author, co-sponsor, or even support an effort currently underway by those who condemn the Air Force award of a government contract to build supertanker aircraft to a foreign business currently being sued by the United States government?

Instead, the "Big Three" are busy trying to slam dunk their opponents, pander to potential support, beg for finances, or defend themselves against attacks by fellow Senators and their political campaigns.

What is wrong with this picture? Or, have Americans forgotten that they can hold politicians responsible for their failures?

The sad news for Dems party: Dems party has been divided and splitted into half...

Simply true: a divided dems will be a defeated dems...

Two sides really need to calm down and look for what is the best for the dems to win in Nov not just for him/her-self (or the ones behind...)..

One candidate has been potrayed as "empty suit/Liar" and the other as "old political woman/Liar"....

Those personal and negative attacks only benefit McCain...

As Lou Dobbs accurately put it this evening, the Democratic Party is in disarray.

Caucuses, liberal and far left candidates, disenfranchised voters, scandal, race baiting, and a host of other infirmities.

The Democrats continue to find new and innovative ways to lose, again.

Dog Soldier, I did not look at what you said with enough care - and I apologize. I was wrong. I agree - I don't think any candidate knows the way out. I wish they did. I believe wishing that we could all go back to the 90s is the real fairy tale of this campaign season.

But I stand by what I said about John McCain and the lack of coverage by the mainstream media. We don't know where he stands (except on foreign policy) because it is in the best interests of the Republican party that we don't know. I loved John McCain - but he's been replaced by a Bush-clone. And as a deeply patriotic and concerned American, I would like the American press corps to start reporting on all three candidiates and tell us what McCain plans to do for America. Here. Not in the middle East. If the press is going to focus on religious issues - I'd like to hear a lot more about the preacher men standing behind John McCain in every major Red State and what he means when he calls a man like Rev. Parsley his "spiritual advisor."

I just want to thank the media for giving someone like Sen. McCain a better chance of winning the White House. Everyone knows we need a Democrat to clean up after Bush, but instead of discussing issues that affect the ordinary American, all we talk about is religion, race, gender and call people names. The media has messed up our party and no one can see what's happening until McCain wins in November. I'm in tears because we've suffered enough. Let's nominate a Democrat and fix our country, please.

I strongly disagree. What's hurting the Democratic party, are leaders who are constantly sounding like Chicken Little, so they can exploit the situation for personal gain. They are only trying to grab headlines for themselves. Stoyer should be trying to end the war, make Rove and Bush advisers testify about the federal attorney firings, impeach Bush and Cheney, end illegal wiretaps, and etc. In short, Pelosi and Stoyer should stay out of the election, and get to work.

Mara-Unfortunately I have looked at the America of today. Oil $110 and change which will affect every facet of our lives. Gold topped $1000 an ounce. Home owners losing homes by hundreds of thousands. The low dollar and dropping, and on and on. I've tried and tried on these blogs to make others talk about this and other problems but it seems we want to scream at each other more. To tell the truth I don't even know how Obama, or Hillary, or McCain plan to address this issues in an in depth manner at all. None of us do.

Dogsoldier...I said Hillary's campaign and that would include the Bill Clinton's remarks: Fairy tale, Jesse Jackson. And the Gerry Ferraro statement. You know the ones Hillary's been apologizing for.

Why doesn't the DNC kindly tell Clinton something she doesn't like to hear, you have lost, your behind in delegates and popular vote, you cannot win, unless you bribe all the superdelegates to vote your way. Which she would in a heartbeat. The exact reason so many people want Clinton out is because they are sick to death of Hill, Bill & Bush.
We don't want or need another Bush presidency, our country is collapsing and him and his neocon policies are the cause. Hillary or McCain is just more Bush.
Get some Kahonas Dean and tell the lady to LEAVE already.

Janet-I have to call you on Hillary Clinton race baiting. Please submit your proof and your sources to back up your claim.

Obama will not win in November. What makes him so electable"? He has NOTHING over Hillary.

Right now he has something over the Clintons. He has gone toe to toe with the most powerful, entrenched, political machine of the last 20 years, and is defeating it!

And if he wins the nomination, as it appears he is most likely to, he will have defeated them completely. If that's "nothing," what does that say about the Clintons?

Dog Soldier: Have you looked at the state of our country lately? At our economcy? At the deficit? At our relationships with allies that were decades long? At the chances that our kids will have as good a life as we have had? This is what a Bush has done in seven years, and Bush rode into office on the back of a press corps that focused on trivia, fly-by night issues, scoops, slander and trash instead of issues. The Democrats can't run a campaign? The Republicans can't run a country, but you wouldn't know it by readins any major American paper.

Anyone happen to know what John McCain believes in? No. I didn't think so. Anyone know who his advisors are? No. I didn't think so. Anyone know how he's planning to raise his money? No. Didn't think so. The press has been too busy trying to beat Matt Drudge to the scoop and playing cards with John McCain that they haven't bothered to ask.

There have been some gaffs in this campaign - and there are going to be more. But none of them compare to the apathy and self-indulgence of the press corps. The American press corps used to be something we believed in - they brought us the truth - whether we wanted it or not. Now we get headlines about prostitutes and hoopla about a Chicago preacher. Anybody notice that Hillary held a Washington meeting today with her top donors - and said that the super delegates were the key to the election? No? Didn't think so. It wasn't reported. Remember that quaint concept, democracy?

From Day One Obama has tried to focus on issues and the Clinton campaign has tried to create a 3 ring circus atmosphere to distract the voters from realizing that Hillary has the same or less experience than Obama. Her campaign has tried everything: false emails about religion and patriotism, race-baiting, mocking Obama supporters, ludicrous "Shame on you" speeches, misleading photographs...the list goes on and on. If this were a race between John Edwards and Obama there would have been none of this ridiculousnous. I place the blame squarely with Hillary Clinton and her campaign.

Maybe it shows that Obama is such a good, strong and qualified candidate that doing what Clinton's been doing is her only option.

Former democrat,

I respectfully disagree...and ...

uh, I can't even go there anymore with people on both sides who make stuff up.

You all did see that Sen. Clinton is also having issues with Michigan doing a revote...so, Yes she is trying to get Florida residents votes to count...and she would like Michigan to count in a fashion that is not unfair to her
or just let them count as is. you know the ones she was the only one on the ballot.

Obama is hesitant on ways in Florida...

No matter what happens I think whoever wins if they end up doing something simpler than what everybody wants...the candidate is going to have to go to Florida and Michigan and listen to the people there...and show they got dissed.

The bigger issue is the numbers dropping (and that was last week numbers) against McCain. All the negative attacks are bringing both candidates down already... can't wait to see the numbers from this week...oy.

Actually, I think that his concern is not so much for the presidential race as much as for Dem White Male politicians that will face either an angry black or an unhappy female electorate. They may or may not take it out on HRC or BHO, BUT white males may be "in season" this year, since someone's gotta be blamed.

I think this shows just how many racial divides we have in this country. It would be a pity if one or both of the candidates were intentionally exploiting the race issue to give them an advantage. Hard to think that Hillary Clinton is not. Perhaps she has just been in politics too long and fought too many battles to really be aware of the effect that these antics have not only on the democratic party but the whole country.

Westcoast messenger

Hillary didn't think much about making all these votes count back when she was in NH or when she signed an agreement saying they should not count.

This is part of the reason people that don't like her ...don't like her...

Now that she is in the situation where she needs there delegates for herself...it is important and she plays it as if she is fighting for THEM.

C'mon that is just kind of creepy crawly don't you think? Seriously...

The focus on race and gender and other non-issues is precisely designed to stay AWAY from the bare facts of the contest in 2008. And that benefits Obama.

The bare facts are that Obama is an inexperienced, not-very-accomplished junior Senator with a left-liberal track record and an association through his life with leftists and radicals as mentors, advisors and allies. As such, the Clinton camp is right to suggest he may not be electable.

Obama is very liberal on many issues, from abortion (against protecting even ‘born alive’ infants), immigration (for drivers licenses for illegals, for amnesty and chain migration), gays (for gays in military openly serving), judges (approving of judicial activists), taxes (approves higher taxes by repealing current tax cuts), spending (huge spending promises), Israel (anti-Israel advisors who say we should talk to Hamas), Iraq (withdraw now), etc. Down-the-line doctrinaire Liberal. National journal rated him the most liberal senator in the US Senate.

Some like the guy with a record more liberal than Ted Kennedy, but most Americans will not. Obama's magic has been to appear to progressives as a progressive while appearing to others as not. One day, someone will get disappointed.

Obama is a man of the left, who is using political skill to run more centrist and is using he race card to foil attempts to expose the difference between his rhetoric and his reality. That skill though does not make him any less an empty suit. That real story will not be told so long as the non-story of race and gender dominates the media echo chamber.

Obama needs the non-story, he needs to attack critics (like Ferraro) as "racist" (even when it is unfair, as it was against her), so that the real issues of his inexperience, his left-liberal positions, and troubling associations are not really discussed.

Hillary was only interested in making sure ALL the votes counted when she fell behind on delegats. Then is when it became important. Whe she thought her nomination was inevitable, she didn't give a rip about Florida or Michigan voters. That is why she signed the pledge. It was only AFTER she got repeatedly beaten that she decided the voters "needed" to be heard. Her worries about disenfranchised voters are as fake as her worries about the poor and downtrodden. Why don't you paid bloggers give it a rest for a while?

I mean democrats must ask themselves at some point in time if we can't even run an efficient primary for ourselves why should Americans trust us to run an entire country? Does anyone think, including Hoyer, that republicans are not going to point this out in the general?

What gender attacks? For disclosure purposes, I will admit I'm an Obama supporter, but Obama's campaigned has not made any sexist attacks on Clinton. One can certainly argue, correctly in my view, that the MSM has been particularly sexist in their coverage of Hillary. It's not fair, however, for Hoyer to say that the "racial and gender attacks", when the Obama campaign has leveled no gender-based attacks.

Hoyer has a point. Nevertheless, I do believe it is the DNC itself who is responsible for this horror of super delegates, Texas two step, losing FL and MI to republicans even before the general, an unwieldy delegate sharing system seemingly designed to bleed the democrats dry of funds, and a terrible ad hoc way of deciding who can vote early and the punishing some states and allowing others to vote early. The democrats have no one to blame but themselves for this mess.

Look the race is close and all voters need to have their say. Democrats need to be able to amke contrasts. This is nothing compared to what the republicans will dish out.

To be fair, I think it is the main stream media that is reponsible for most of the bias against Clinton that is causing resentment among women and even blacks.

But if you can't take the heat etc. etc. It has to be allowed to play out, especially when one of the candidates has not been vetted appropriately by the press.

Obama will not win in November. What makes him so electable"? He has NOTHING over Hillary. She will be better against McCain in November.

I agree. But it seems to me that it's the Hillary campaign that's attacking the most. She basically told reporter McCain is ready to be Commander and Chief. This will be a hard argument if either wins the nominee. McCain will play the tape over if he's against her and he will have the same argument against Obama.

Here’s a passage from the story in the Chicago Tribune about Obama.
Obama knows his way around a ballot Some say his ability to play political hardball goes back to his first campaign
By David Jackson and Ray Long | Tribune staff reporters
April 3, 2007

A close examination of Obama's first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it.
"Why say you're for a new tomorrow, then do old-style Chicago politics to remove legitimate candidates?" Askia said. "He talks about honor and democracy, but what honor is there in getting rid of every other candidate so you can run scot-free? Why not let the people decide?"
In a recent interview, Obama granted that "there's a legitimate argument to be made that you shouldn't create barriers to people getting on the ballot."
But the unsparing legal tactics were justified, he said, by obvious flaws in his opponents' signature sheets. "To my mind, we were just abiding by the rules that had been set up," Obama recalled. (Whatever it takes, right Obama? No wonder you and your supporters say it so much. Too much protest is always suspicious.....)

The DEMOCRATIC process is destroying the party. This is typically a statement that somebody throws out when their candidate is in the lead and at risk for slippage. It is a transparent attempt at gamesmanship. Let the games go on. Democrats must count the Florida vote. Why don't we ever want to count Florida? HILLARY CLINTON is the only candidate that wants to make sure ALL DEMOCRATS are included!!!

This is a preview of what still is to come. All indicators tell us that the DNC will go for Obama, winner of the primary season and most electable candidate, the one to revive the party by bringing in masses of new, young and enthusiastic members.

But when they do so, Mrs. Clinton will explode in a rage of revenge and scorched earth strategies. The DNC is praying that SOMEBODY can convince her to bow out before Denver. They're talking to Bill about that daily. But those who know Hillary tell us that the LAST thing she wants is failing where Bill succeeded. The competition with her own husband (who humiliated her) is the real one for Hillary; amazingly enough - while many of her supporters understand is - the MSM has been very quiet about it. Jake, your turn.

where is the DNC, you ask? They have managed to create the "proportional delegates" gridlock; the supedelegates-who-can-overrule the voters preference debacle; and the let's-alienate-everyone in Florida and Michigan so they will either stay home or vote Republican in November disaster.

Are you SURE you want them to get involved in this issue too ?

It didn't sound to me like the comments were as dramatic as you are portraying in your title to this post. They were very measured comments. Your title is misleading.

That's why it's important for senior democrats to sit these two candidates down soon and lay out the various scenarios. Make them understand that they need to come together. I'm concerned that factions within the party will not be able to come together -regardless of their preferred candidates pleas to do so. I'm concerned that as a life long democrat -
I may not be able to support a candidate other than Clinton. I understand that many Obama supporters feel the same way. The real prize as I see it is winning the November election. Other candidates have come together even though their personalities didn't mesh. I'm confident that these two are grown ups who can put their egos aside. This shouldn't be allowed to go on much longer.