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Howard Dean 2004: The Medals Matter

March 28, 2008 9:32 PM

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., launches a biography tour next week, which looks to tell the American people about his days as a POW in Vietnam, at least based on his new TV ad (watch HERE) introduced today in New Mexico.

In response, Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean issued a statement, saying, “John McCain can try to reintroduce himself to the country, but he can’t change the fact that he cast aside his principles to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with President Bush the last seven years. While we honor McCain’s military service, the fact is Americans want a real leader who offers real solutions, not a blatant opportunist who doesn’t understand the economy and is promising to keep our troops in Iraq for 100 years.”

The Republican Party has seized upon the term "blatant opportunist" to suggest that Dean is implying McCain is an opportunist for including his POW information in his TV ad.

RNC Deputy Chairman Frank Donatelli said, “Howard Dean owes John McCain an immediate apology and both Sens. Clinton and Obama should unequivocally denounce this disgraceful attack."

That's all noise. What's more interesting are the Dean quotes from 2004 that may come back to haunt him this year.

"The real issue is this," Dean said in March 2004, when endorsing formal rival Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., "Who would you rather have in charge of the defense of the United States of America, a group of people who never served a day overseas in their life, or a guy who served his country honorably and has three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star on the battlefields of Vietnam?"

McCain, by the way, has been awarded the Silver Star, the Legion of Merit, two Bronze Star Medals, a Purple Heart and the Distinguished Flying Cross.

- jpt

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Dean is The Parrrot in Chief of the Democratic Party and when he uttered his talking points the Benevolent Press and the 1/3 of the Democratic Party who he controlled just bow down,in awe, and obey.Of course that is my opinion.

Posted by: MFB | Aug 7, 2008 10:59:17 PM

Now is the time for Hillary Clinton to step down, leave the scene. She should be above such statements and thought. I urge you to do whatever it takes other than assassination to get her out of the race. She is damaging the democratic party and does not deserve to be the President of the United States of America.
She must go and go now.

Posted by: Deborah Jophnson | May 23, 2008 11:03:21 PM

The DNC only seems to be concerned about the balck and youth voters and does not care if they disenfranchise the older female supporters of Hillary Clinton. Believe me, we will not vote Democratic if you deny Hillary the candidacy for Novemeber. Hillary is the best qualified and most capable to win and do good things for this country. She should run as an Independant if you deny her the candidacy. The youth vote and black vote is not able to close the deal for Obama in even the primaries - they won't get him elected in November. Women got the previous Democratic presidents elcted to the white house. You need to voice concern over losing the female voters. We have said we will not vote for Obama in a large percentage.

Posted by: this election counts | May 2, 2008 10:14:49 AM

The idiot republican voters had a chance to vote for a candidate who knew more about what the country needed than all the other mannequins combined.

McCain voters need an education.

Posted by: knot2hazy | Mar 31, 2008 5:46:23 PM

Howard Dean, while not perfect, is exactly where the Democratic party, and the nation need to be going. Results speak for themselves... Who took back congress, who gained seats in the oppositions 'Red' States, and under which DNC leadership was this? The 50-state strategy is working...

Posted by: triax | Mar 31, 2008 11:49:49 AM

It will be interesting to see the Democrats run from their 2004 assertations about Kerry now that both of their candidates are a couple of priveledged Ivy Leaguers who never spent a day in harms way.

My guess is over the next 8 months many more quotes about Kerry being more fit to lead because of his service will pop up, and not in a flattering way for HRC or Obama.

Posted by: Crazy Politico | Mar 31, 2008 7:10:07 AM

DogSoldier writes: "The difference between McCain and Kerry is that McCain actually deserved his medals".
Actually, if you read McCain's Silver Star citation, I don't know how you can possibly support that concusion. How can you make propaganda broadcasts (almost 3 dozen), on the one hand, and then be awarded a medal for resisting attempts to make propaganda statements??
Deserved?? How can that be?

Posted by: mikeusmc | Mar 30, 2008 3:18:28 PM

Sorry, I meant products instead of profits.

Posted by: James Danley | Mar 30, 2008 3:18:13 PM

Thinking, because no one will have ANYTHING witheld from their paychecks! And as I mentioned before, the elimination of the multiple hidden taxes that are currently passed on to consumers will result in lower prices . And some products will see a drop below the 23%, so there will actually be a net gain for those profits.

Now as for homes being a luxury item, I consider the multi-million dollar homes as being a luxury. I would also consider any car over $60,000 as being a luxury.

Posted by: James Danley | Mar 30, 2008 3:15:37 PM

In the Winter of 2002 – 2003, a killing wind swept Arizona. It swept over the rugged red mountains, across the mesquite-dotted deserts and through the canyons and washes seeking out its victims.

It swept down the echoing corridors of nursing homes and into poor trailer-houses, senior apartment complexes and assisted living facilities. Its victims were the elderly poor, who, if they did not lose their lives in its wake, were robbed of the Medicaid Title 19 services that enabled them to face each day. Everything that Medicaid could supply them was cut short or completely lost. Fragile human dignity fell and shattered as the poor elderly literally begged for assistance.

A fierce wind that no one could hear blew in from the NCFE bankruptcy, taking in its wake 131 – 181 million dollars of Arizona Medicaid money – money invested in NCFE through the Local Government Investment Pools (LGIP) without the knowledge or consent of the Arizona taxpayers.

No one can hear the cries of the elderly who are still in the grip of the death-wind. Does John McCain know? Of course he does. The question is…does he care? That answer is no – he is only afraid that the rest of the world will find out what happened out here. The crimes have been committed by state and local Arizona governments, and the secret of those crimes has been effectively kept.

Posted by: Mary A. Wilson | Mar 30, 2008 3:12:36 PM

Hmm ....seems my post was deleted.
Let's try again. without a link maybe.

Characteristic Number
(thousands) Median
income
All households 116,011 48,201
Type of household
Family households 78,425 59,894
Married-couple families 58,945 69,716
Female householder, no
husband present 14,416 31,818
Male householder, no
wife present 5,063 47,078
Nonfamily households 37,587 29,083
Female householder 20,249 23,876
Male householder 17,338 35,614
Race and Hispanic origin of householder
White 94,705 50,673
Non-Hispanic 82,675 52,423
Black 14,354 31,969
Asian and Pacific Islander 4,454 64,238
Hispanic origin1 12,973 37,781
Age of householder
15–24 6,662 30,937
25–34 19,435 49,614
35–44 22,779 60,405
45–54 24,140 64,874
55–64 19,266 54,592
65 and over 23,729 27,798
Nativity of the householder
Native 100,603 49,074
Foreign born 15,408 43,943
Naturalized citizen 7,210 51,440
Not a citizen 8,198 39,497
Region
Northeast 21,261 52,057
Midwest 26,508 47,836
South 42,587 43,884
West 25,656 52,249


First number is number of Households second is number is Median Income.

Now tell me how that lower 50% ( $48,202 a yaer and below)can afford a 23% increase on everything they buy.

Posted by: Thinking | Mar 30, 2008 11:36:12 AM

Typo there that is supposed to be $48,000 a year median income.

Posted by: Thinking | Mar 30, 2008 11:18:36 AM

James Danely wrote:

I prefer Alan Keyes suggestion of duty free stores. Stores that carry everything without frills. You would even be able to buy large ticket items such as appliances and even cars (probably only hybrid and electric).

Now then, luxury items WILL be taxed the 23%. When you buy a home, you will pay the 23% federal sales tax. When you buy a car, you will pay the 23% federal sales tax.

You make me laugh! A home a luxury Item?

Duty Free store, Large Ticket Items?

See what I mean?

I 23% increase on Homes, 23% increase on cars. Luxury Items? I don't neede a home or a car?

What is a large ticket item? A large boat, $20,000 home entertainment Center,
Humvee?

Give it a rest, I can see through this rubbish with my eyes closed.

Posted by: Thinking | Mar 30, 2008 11:05:46 AM

Talk about fair? Right now the top 5% of wage earners account for 36% of the national income. But they pay 60% of the total taxes paid. The top 25% of wage earners pay 86% of the total taxes paid; and the top 50% of wage earners pay 97% of the total taxes paid. That means the bottom 50% of the wage earners pay only 3% of the total taxes paid.

Posted by: James Danley | Mar 30, 2008 10:57:11 AM

To clarify, duty free stores would be exempt from the 23% federal sales tax.

Posted by: James Danley | Mar 30, 2008 10:47:30 AM

Thinking, you should read up on the fair tax proposal. Part of the current proposal is for everyone to receive a check as a reimbursement to make a similar adjustment that the current tax law has where no one pays tax on the first $7,500 of income.

I, personally, don't like that idea because it is extremely costly to keep sending checks out to everyone. I prefer Alan Keyes suggestion of duty free stores. Stores that carry everything without frills. You would even be able to buy large ticket items such as appliances and even cars (probably only hybrid and electric).

Now then, luxury items WILL be taxed the 23%. When you buy a home, you will pay the 23% federal sales tax. When you buy a car, you will pay the 23% federal sales tax.

And prices will come down. That's because corporations and some small businesses currently tack on what they have to pay accountants for determining what they owe in taxes. Corporations pay, nationally, tens of billions of dollars annually, just trying to determine tax loop holes and what they owe. It is this area that has drastically hurt our economy. Companies, like Enron, tried to skirt their tax obligations by cooking the books. And in doing so, caused great harm to their employees, share holders and the overall economy. Eliminating an incentive for cooking the books will also keep the money here in American banks.

Finally, industries that are currently not paying their fair share in taxes (i.e. criminal activities such as prostitution and drug dealers) will pay their share under the fair tax. That will be a huge increase in general revenues.

Posted by: James Danley | Mar 30, 2008 10:46:09 AM

Obama lies everyday, and the press lets him do it. They adore him. He lied about what McCain said about 100 years in Iraq, and lied about Hillary said about NAFTA. Much like the late night comedians, who have yet to make one joke disparaging Barack Obama while brutally mocking and insulting Hillary and McCain nightly, our press had decided an affirmative action policy of preferential treatment towards Barack Obama. It is incredibly un-American the bias shown by the white guilt liberal media. They let Obama off for his seeking out militant black leaders to get elected as an "exceptional speech on race". No, it was a detour and distraction, and the media ate it up hook, line and sinker.

Posted by: Karen | Mar 30, 2008 10:43:40 AM

Mark,

It's not a single quote, it is not even many quotes taken out of context over some political campaign that we are talking about.

It is a Republican Philosophy, and the results of, or consequences of such a philosophy.

It is not a single issue, it is a multiplicity of issues, it is a general direction, it is a view of where we are going or where we should be going. It is about the results of the last 8 years.

It is not even about a single person, be it McCain, Obama, or Hillary, but what they represent, and who best can promote the ideals that the party represents.

The Republicans just don't get it.

Posted by: Thinking | Mar 30, 2008 10:31:47 AM

When someone says something as blatantly dishonest as the Dems are about the 100 years thing the media would NORMALLY call that person out.

Why not now? Why the kid gloves when Dems lie? You only need to listen to the whole quote where McCain said 100 years if....noone was being killed or hurt.

Jake, you are a good reporter. Just call a spade a spade.

Posted by: Mark | Mar 30, 2008 10:20:28 AM

Consumption Tax ( fair tax as you call it), as everyone knows is not fair, but in fact taxes a greater percentage of income of the less fortunate. That is if I make less I pay a greater percentage of what I make to the government. How is that fair? This is not even mentioning all those luxury items that the industry will say they van not sell with ( What's the number 23% Sales tax on it), so they will in the end be excluded.


And once again Industry, those who rcv the greatest benefit from our nation, will pay nothing. Yes nothing, well I guess they pay enough in lobbying to get what they want

Fair! While I pay 23% of my income, I do not know about you but, but I spend overtime just about all I make, while those who are well off deriving the most of the country, pay less on a percentage bases. Allowing them to put more into those Companies paying nothing, gaining more income, to buy better Health care, higher end product excluded product. I do not think so.

Raise my taxes, lift the limit, switch to price indexing. I am not sold on the privatization. That is a buch of baloney perpetuated by Bush and the Republican Party. Someplace in there is a profit for industry at a cost to the public sector.

We seen the how well privatzation has worked in FEMA,and IRAQ.

Posted by: Thinking | Mar 30, 2008 9:47:42 AM

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