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I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues

March 27, 2008 12:47 PM

The Washington Times this morning asked if Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and Elton John, who is set to perform at an April 9 fundraiser for her at Radio City Music Hall in New York, would be breaking any laws since John, a British foreign national, is in a way raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for her campaign.

The Federal Election Campaign Act "prohibits any foreign national from contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly. It is also unlawful to help foreign nationals violate that ban or to solicit, receive or accept contributions or donations from them. Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to fines and/or imprisonment."

The questions: was John contributing "indirectly" to Clinton's campaign? Was Clinton soliciting contributions or donations from John?

The answers, apparently: No and no.

On its website the Clinton campaign says that since 1987, the Federal Elections Commission "has consistently held that foreign nationals may volunteer their time for campaigns on an uncompensated basis. Elton John is simply volunteering his uncompensated time to appear at the concert. This appearance is consistent with past FEC rulings."

The campaign also quotes FEC spokesman Bob Biersack saying, "I did not intend to convey in my conversation with the Washington Times reporter that there is anything unlawful about Elton John performing in a concert to raise money for a U.S. presidential candidate. The Advisory Opinion 2004-26 is clear in the circumstances of the request that foreign nationals may volunteer and may even solicit contributions from non-foreign nationals, provided they are not soliciting other foreign nationals."

Can you feel the love tonight?

- jpt

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I think the people who are commenting on the wright issue are just clutching for straws. There is no guilt there its just guilt by association.

The guys accusing this are the same guys who accused barack as a muslim. Now they say he is a christian and a racist. All this tells me that somehow they want to point their fingers at barack.

The only reason for them to do this is because they are uncomfortable with a black. Look at it yourself anybody with half a brain can say that these things are a stretch.


Posted by: dheep | Mar 28, 2008 6:40:50 AM

IF Obama ends up being the Democratic nominee, the Republicans are going to quickly chew him up and spit him out. All they need to do is what the media appears to be holding back on for now...that is look closely at exactly where he was when Jeremiah Wright was spewing his hateful sermons. Quite conveniently, he claims he wasn't "in church" on those days, but that seems highly unlikely as Wright gave many such sermons and he was Obama's pastor for 20 years.

IF he ends up being the Democratic nominee, Obama will lose to McCain and we'll get 100 more years of the Iraq war.

Posted by: SG | Mar 27, 2008 11:23:33 PM

So who's paying for Elton John's airfare and accommodations? Just curious.

Posted by: Tom J | Mar 27, 2008 10:41:21 PM

Hey, Jay, the pot should not be calling the kettle black. Obama extremists would do the same thing if Hillary becomes the nominee -- that is, they would switch parties or refuse to vote in the general election altogether. That is the trouble with the current situation in the Democratic party. Each side is very much for their candidate and this can only help the Republicans.

Posted by: sam | Mar 27, 2008 9:38:50 PM

Well not surprising as Elton John is English, and in that country they're about 10 decades behind us in almost everything, so the idea of a powerful Black person is still very alien to the British...

Hil-LIAR-y has already set the timer on her campaign, and its set to explode. It's MATHS and now a matter of time!

So all you Clintonites start preparing for your futures more vigorously, hold he college fund for your 10 yrold, cos they won't be needing it where they're going! Our next President will be McCain according to 34% of Clinton extremist.

I have been supporting Obama since he began his journey, and i hold my reasons for doing so. But I would first offer my soul then vote for what would be another 4 years of a Bush administration.

My Mother who we both have been members of the same party for over 15years is a Clinton extremist. In her own words, she would rather 'vote for what she has fought against for the last decade then see a Black man hold the highest position of power in the land'. My mother is not a racist but rather she is uncomfortable with the situation and will switch parties if Obama is elected.

All you extremist fanatical Clintonites should be ashamed to attempt to sing our great National anthem.

We need to stop this NOW and get the Democratic party's common views & values that unites us all.. More importantly WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT OUR PARTIES SAKE, FOR OUR COUNTRYS SAKE, FOR THE WORLD'S SAKE.

IT IS TIME FOR THE CLINTON FAMILY EGO TO STEP ASIDE ONCE AND FOR ALL, AND STOP BESIEGING OUR GREAT AMERICAN DEMOCRACY!!

THE CLINTONS MUST LEARN TO BE GRACIOUS IN DEFEAT AND LOSE WITH SOME INTEGRITY STILL LEFT IN TACT, WHILE YOU HAVE THE CHANCE. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT HER DIVINE RIGHT, AND NEVER HAS BEEN!!!

OBAMA'08

Posted by: Jay McMahon | Mar 27, 2008 9:15:16 PM

Joe joe joe! tz,tz. Would of what? That's "would've" thought as in would have thought. Don't mention it

Posted by: ruthmatters | Mar 27, 2008 6:45:11 PM

LOL that's funny Cory! I wish I would of thought of that.

Posted by: Joe | Mar 27, 2008 6:37:14 PM

jj That's what i thought. You haven't a clue. My point is that why America has to be taking the all the blame for a practice that has been practiced for centuries even before it was discovered.Not that slavery in our country wasn't wrong. it was. but It is just that Obama wanted to make it seem that America is the initiater. so I wanted to clarify that he mispoke. You are asking me what am I talking about?

Posted by: ruthmatters | Mar 27, 2008 6:20:19 PM

jj That's what

Posted by: ruthmatters | Mar 27, 2008 6:16:23 PM

There is no kool-aid here. Its suspect and Joe is right. More questions need to be answered and hopefully the investigation will provide answers.

Posted by: JJ | Mar 27, 2008 6:10:48 PM

MICHELE OBAMA'S MILITANT RACISM REVEALED

In her senior thesis at Princeton, Michele Obama, the wife of Obama stated that America was a nation founded on "crime and hatred". Moreover, she stated that whites in America were "ineradicably racist".
The 1985 thesis, titled "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community" was written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.

Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to "Whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first..." However, it was reported by a fellow black classmate, "If those "Whites at Princeton" really saw Michelle as one who always would "be Black first," it seems that she gave them that impression".

Most alarming is Michele Obama's use of the terms "separationist" and "integrationist" when describing the views of black people.

Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a "separationist" view of race.

"By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desperation of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an integrationist who is ignorant to their plight."

Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to her "further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant."

Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.

Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America, but she elevates black over white in her world.

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 6:08:02 PM

Salty? Why? What matters is votes, and the last time I checked this wasn't over. So unless you are some kind of clairvoyant, stop with the percentages.

Posted by: JJ | Mar 27, 2008 6:07:38 PM

To JJ
The Canadian government is not in Toronto its in Qttawa. Keep driving that Obama Kool-Aid and everything will be OK.

Posted by: freedom20082009 | Mar 27, 2008 6:06:16 PM

Once agian Mary is right who does care who leaked it? I think NAAFTA is an issue both have to adress. I think Obama said that to the Canadians so he doesn't alienate them. But the thing is if Bill did leak that what would he leak when he gets back in the white house? That isn't a very cool way of handling things. Any way we shouldn't vote for Hillary. Change the constitution and get Bill back! LOL!!!

Bill Clinton pres. Barack v.p. 08!!!!

Posted by: Joe | Mar 27, 2008 6:05:37 PM

It matters who leaked it if that person was coerced by Bill Clinton, who happened to have flown to Toronto for a day before this whole thing came out. That's the curious part. The facts on this subject are entirely misconstrued. He never met with them, it was his advisor and the reporter that asked him asked him if he had a meeting and he said no. The only meeting was 4 weeks prior. The media made this whole story and a lot truly believe it was Bill Clinton who is responsible.

Posted by: JJ | Mar 27, 2008 6:05:09 PM

jj...Are you salty that Hillary has majority of Hispanics, all Jews, all Asians, majority of woman & 20% African Americans???? I think you are.. Dont hate the player, hate the game. If you can't handle the truth then leave..

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 6:03:44 PM

JJ..Who cares who leaked it..The truth came out about Obama's dirty tricks of Nafta.

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 5:57:32 PM

Mary, I have an exercise for you. Take out the word "BLACK" in what you wrote and replace it with "WOMEN" - how does that sound? Any different?

Posted by: JJ | Mar 27, 2008 5:56:15 PM

Um yeah. Ruth. What on earth are you talking about? You need to take a step back, relax and re evaluate your media consumption.

Posted by: JJ | Mar 27, 2008 5:54:21 PM

GUESS WHAT PEOPLE! THIS IS NOW BEING REVEILED!
Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.
Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America, but she elevates black over white in her world.
Here is another passage that is uncomfortable and ominous in meaning:

"There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost. "
What is Michelle Obama planning to do with her future resources if she's first lady that will elevate black over white in America?

I'M SCARED OF HER!


Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 5:53:56 PM

You should know Mary, The Canadian government announced today that they will be sharing with us the findings of their investigation into the NAFTA "leak." I guess we'll see if Bill had anything to do with the "leak" since he flew up to Toronto that weekend. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Posted by: JJ | Mar 27, 2008 5:50:12 PM

I mean, she's already lied SO MANY TIMES, to believe something that comes from her at this point would be foolish, don't you think?

Posted by: JJ | Mar 27, 2008 5:47:36 PM

Unlike Obama, Hillary Campaign Never Contacted Canadian Government About NAFTA

CTV reported that a senior member of Obama’s campaign called the Canadian embassy, reassuring officials that Obama’s talk on NAFTA was just campaign rhetoric.

Obama campaign refused to confirm or deny the initial report. Obama and his campaign made a series of false denials about its communication with the Canadian government about NAFTA. A memo from the Canadian government established that the Obama campaign did have a meeting, making assurances contrary to what Obama has told voters.

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 5:46:36 PM

Oh yea Mary, Elton John makes crappy music. LOL, take it easy we are on the same side you know. NO WAR NO Mccain!

Posted by: Joe | Mar 27, 2008 5:42:09 PM

JJ.. Obama knows that if he focused on his experience, he'd get questions about the shortcomings in his record and the efforts he has made to embellish it.

He'd have to deal with the fallout from this week's Washington Post report on his gross exaggeration of his role on immigration reform and housing policy.

He would have to explain why the New York Times reported that he claims credit for passing nuclear leak legislation that never got out of committee.

He'd have to confront reports from FactCheck.org and other independent organizations that say his claims of providing a universal health care plan are based on selective, embellished and out-of-context quotes from newspapers.

He'd have to discuss the LA Times story that reported on how his fellow organizers say he took too much credit for his community organizing efforts.

He'd have to explain why he regularly claims he was a law professor when in fact he held no such title.

Obama seems to think disingenuous attacks on Hillary will address the concerns voters have about his record and readiness to be the Commander-in-Chief and the steward of our economy.
They won't.

In the end, Obama's words cannot erase Hillary's 35-year record of action because when all is said and done, words aren't action. They are just words.

All facts babyyyyy

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 5:36:35 PM

I guess the documents from her first lady papers that prove she held NAFTA meetings, events and the like in support of NAFTA, those don't matter. Or the interviews with the woman who were AT THE DINNER where she gave a speech IN SUPPORT OF NAFTA, that doesn't matter. But, friend and associate Gergin, who the media has been after to fess up to his protective lie says she was opposed in "private." Once again mary, you miss the mark.

Posted by: JJ | Mar 27, 2008 5:33:42 PM

Fact Check: Organizer of NAFTA Meeting Said Hillary Was A NAFTA CRITIC!

The Obama campaign is claiming that the fact that Hillary attended a meeting on the subject of NAFTA organized by David Gergen is proof that she was a champion of NAFTA.

Here's what David Gergen said about Hillary's views on NAFTA:

I was actually there in the Clinton White House during the NAFTA fight and I must tell you Hillary Clinton was extremely unenthusiastic about NAFTA. And I think that’s putting it mildly. I’m not sure she objected to all the provisions of it but she just didn’t see why her husband and that White House had to go and do that fight. She was very unhappy about it and wanted to move on to health care. So I do think there’s some justification for her camp saying, you know, she’s never been a great backer for NAFTA." [David Gergen, Anderson Cooper 360, 2/25/08]

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 5:30:07 PM

Lou, you take the question of whether Elton is a has-been, which has nothing to do with music in general or race, and use it in a racial tirade. You have to be a Republican for whom McCain is far too liberal.

Posted by: DennisNC | Mar 27, 2008 5:30:07 PM

Oh Mary, here we go again. Cutting and pasting things doesn't do anything if you don't understand what the words mean. There is a lot of media out there and if you can't understand what the words even mean (not what they imply), you will continue to be uninformed. Curious though, if you're willing Mary, what do you make of the lying issue this week? Do you think its important for our next president to be truthful? There was video. What you have on Obama, is all implications and innuendo.

Posted by: JJ | Mar 27, 2008 5:29:46 PM

Oh Mary.....so sad. I feel bad for the day you realize the truth about HRC. Its sad, because you are trying so hard to help her. If she only appreciated you....

Posted by: JJ | Mar 27, 2008 5:20:49 PM

The only way Barack Obama can win the nomination is by disenfranchising 5 million voters in Florida and Michigan, and then stopping the process before Pennsylvania, Indiana, and the others have their primaries. That's not exactly gently politics.
I understand Hilary Clinton's positive numbers are down. I don't think that's Obama's fault except maybe seconhand; the press has been pillorying Hillary for weeks and is getting more nasty every day. I don't think voters are concerned that the contest is not over but the 'pundits' (not really) are getting more and more irrational.

Posted by: Adele Loessberg | Mar 27, 2008 5:20:23 PM

Thanks for answering my question. Is there some limk between NAFTA and Clintons role as a Wal Mart board member? Also why would a person who is for the working class keep unions out of the Nations biggest employer? Its funny to me that after NAFTA has been alowed to run free most of the companies Clinton has ties to are doing so well and all our manufacturing jobs are going to China.Bush likes this as well cause they are his friends too. Also any one who calls me a traitor for supporting Obama e mail me we'll meet up and we'll have a good fist fight. Don't insult anyone like that.

Posted by: Joe | Mar 27, 2008 5:19:52 PM

I have to clarify the listings of Obama's $$ "support from sub prime companies" that people without any sense are parroting from the Clinton campaign: Each company amount is a compilation of donors of EMPLOYEES THAT WORK AT THE COMPANY, not the company itself. HRC knows this, but hey, why not get the parrots to believe this too?

Posted by: JJ | Mar 27, 2008 5:18:57 PM

Florida and Michigan
The Obama campaign is misleading voters about Hillary's position on Florida and Michigan:

The Michigan and Florida primaries. Back when it suited her political purposes she said the Michigan primary “didn’t count for anything” and that she wasn’t leaving her name on the ballot to try to legitimize the results. But now that she desperately needs more votes, she’s doing just that. And despite her pledge not campaign in either state, she held two campaign events in Florida.
In the interview that the Obama campaign cites, Hillary made it clear that Michigan was essential for the Democrats chances in the fall and that's why she left her name on the ballot:

I did not believe it was fair to just say goodbye Michigan and not take into account the fact that we're going to have to win Michigan if we're going to be in the White House in January 2009.

Hillary actually abided by the rules not to campaign before the primary concluded, unlike Sen. Obama who ran advertising in Florida.

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 5:07:44 PM

Obama supporters in both the FL. and MI. legislatures "BLOCKED" votes on re-votes.

In Mi. they actually stalled action until recess.

Posted by: MC | Mar 27, 2008 5:06:46 PM

Fact Check: Sen. Obama Accepts Over $1 Million From Subprime Lending Industry
3/24/2008 3:14:24 PM

The Obama campaign’s response to the comprehensive plan Hillary laid out to address the housing crisis was not to discuss their disagreement with her proposal but to assert that Hillary has received contributions from subprime loan companies.

Considering that Sen. Obama has received $1.18 million from subprime lenders and has taken more campaign contributions from the top ten issuers of subprime loans, that attack rings hollow as just words. Sen. Obama has a record of talking about standing up to special interests and then caving to their demands. Hillary has a 35-year record of standing up to special interests and delivering results.

Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans. [cq.com]

Obama received $266,907 from Lehman. [Cq.com]

Obama received $5395 from GMAC. [Cq.com]

Obama received $150,850 from CS First Boston. [Cq.com]

Obama received $11,250 from Countrywide. [Cq.com]

Obama received $9052 from Washington Mutual. [Cq.com]

Obama received $161,850 from Citigroup. [Cq.com]

Obama received $4600 from CBASS. [Cq.com]

Obama received $170,050 from Morgan Stanley. [Cq.com]

Obama received $1150 from Centex. [Cq.com]

Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. [Cq.com]

Sen. Obama has taken more money from the top 10 issuers of subprime loans than Hillary. Sen. Obama has received $434,420 from the top 10 issuers of subprime loans. Hillary has received $364,950. [Cq.com; USA Today]

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 5:05:05 PM

ddn, Being an American might mean giging a friend a hand when she needs it. Or help the cuase you believe in. That is what Elton is doing.

Posted by: ken | Mar 27, 2008 5:03:54 PM

You know, Hillary, you might want to contact the Democratic Nat'l Committee and get a list of their rules before doing stupid things.

Posted by: dgfiit | Mar 27, 2008 5:03:45 PM

Cindy...It hurts when the truth comes out about your Oboma huh?? I can't wait if he is the nomonee, that he gets slammed by the Republicans!

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 5:03:31 PM

The DNC in 2007 striped FL and MI of its 2008 delegates. It is an indictment of our educational system that so many people cannot understand such a simple statement made in the English language.

Posted by: DennisNC | Mar 27, 2008 5:03:03 PM

cindy said ---shalabalaboo...actually, I am a Republican, and I see Obama as the only candidate for change...so I won't vote at all if Hillay gets the nomination. The first time in my adult life( I am 60 years old)...

Either you are lying, Cindy or you voted for DUBYA twice. Which is it?

Posted by: MC | Mar 27, 2008 5:00:23 PM

Sen. Obama has not released any records from his time in the state senate:

Obama: ‘I don't have, I don't maintain a file of eight years of work in the state Senate because I didn't have the resources available to maintain those kinds of records.’ He added, ‘It could have been thrown out. I haven't been in the state Senate now for quite some time.’ [CBS, 11/14/07]
Obama: 'I had one staff person that was what was allocated. I don't have archivists in the state Senate. I don't have the Barack Obama state Senate library available to me, so we had a bunch of file cabinets. I do not have a whole bunch of records from those years.' [Chicago Sun Times, 11/10/07]
Sen. Obama touts his new decision to disclose his U.S. Senate earmarks but he refuses to release all earmarks from his time in the state senate:

Obama has been silent on non-federal earmarks he secured while serving in State Senate. “Sen. Barack Obama is open about the pet projects he's tucked into federal legislation, but it's a different story when it comes to the extra spending he added to state budgets while serving in the Illinois Legislature…. When Obama served in the state Legislature, from 1997 until late 2004, it was routine for money to be added to the annual budget for lawmakers to dole out. In most years, this was done without any public record of which legislator was sponsoring which grant, leaving no way to tell how Obama used his share of the money. [AP, 3/13/08]
Sen. Obama will not release the name of the broker who managed his controversial 'semi-blind' trust:

Obama refuses to name the UBS broker that purchased the stocks in his 'quasi-blind' trust. "Obama had about $100,000 he wanted to invest in 2005. The money was a portion of the $1.2 million he got from a book contract. He said Wednesday he decided the $100,000 could be put into something "more high risk" and asked a friend to recommend a stock broker. That friend was donor George W. Haywood, who held what the New York Times called "major" positions in the two stocks Obama ended up owning, Skyterra and AVI BioPharma…. Obama declined to name the UBS broker." [Sweet column, Chicago Sun-Times, 3/8/07]
Sen. Obama will not disclose what cases he worked on that involved Tony Rezko or his companies:

Obama campaign has not released which cases Obama worked on involving Rezko/Rezmar. "Asked what Rezko cases Obama worked on, Miner (a firm partner) told the Sun-Times, 'We’ll put together a list of the cases he worked on involving Rezko/Rezmar in the next day or two.' That was March 13 [2007]. He never provided the information." [Chicago Sun-Times, 4/23/07]

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 5:00:20 PM

Thanks BC! I think that those people who speak against a revote are idiots. It's not just the collective we have to think of, but of the individual who will be turned off by not rvoting. they argue MI and FL broke the rules. Is that the fault of the individual voter, did they have a choice. I hope that Howard Dean and Pelosi knows this.

Posted by: ken | Mar 27, 2008 4:59:48 PM

At the end of the day, I bet you all Clintons will say ELton John is an American....

Posted by: ddn | Mar 27, 2008 4:59:18 PM

Kay: Those Democrats who would vote for McCain rather than Obama should volunteer for the military so they can sustain our troop levels in Iraq for the next 100 years. But before they go, they should just write a big fat check to a corrupt CEO of their choice

Posted by: Mokopane | Mar 27, 2008 4:58:31 PM

Those Democrats who would vote for McCain rather than Obama should volunteer for the military so they can sustain our troop levels in Iraq for the next 100 years. But before they go, they should just write a big fat check to a corrupt CEO of their choice.

Posted by: Mokopane | Mar 27, 2008 4:57:38 PM

To Cindy:

Stop drinking the Obama koolaide. Obama, Edwards and Richardson withdrew to undercut the validity of the primary in MI

They were not asked or required to do so by the DNC.

They tried the same trick in Florida but state law prohibited this trick.

Posted by: libby | Mar 27, 2008 4:57:29 PM

mary...give it up...Mi and Fl are over...hopefully they can get seated at the convention because I believe, as Obama that their delegates should be counted

Posted by: cindy | Mar 27, 2008 4:56:44 PM

You all know that if Obama is nominated, 28% of Hillary's supporters will vote for John McCain and only 19% of the votes McCain will get from Obama people if Hillary won. Do the math! More people dislike Obama than he can imagine!Let me pledge that, If Obama ever get nominated, I will make sure that my family and all my friends will never come out and vote for him. We have a group of 45 people in Dallas went out to vote for Hillary in March 4 and we are proud of it!

Posted by: Kay, Dallas | Mar 27, 2008 4:56:06 PM

First, the Obama campaign has repeatedly said that it would comply with DNC rules and DNC Rule 2.E prohibits cross-over voting. The draft legislation does not permit anyone who voted in Michigan’s Republican primary in January to now vote in the Democratic primary. Senator Obama has said that this is a key reason why he cannot support the legislation but that provision must be in the bill in order to comply with the DNC rules. So while Senator Obama’s campaign says he will follow the rules, he wants one of them to be ignored.

Second, the Obama campaign’s allies in Michigan organized an effort to get people in Michigan to vote for “uncommitted” in the Democratic primary, helping to bring the uncommitted share of vote to 40 percent. So the Obama camp can’t reasonably argue supporters participated in the GOP primary and didn’t vote in the Democratic contest.
False Excuse #4: Michigan Law Requires First-time Absentee Voters Must Vote In Person Before They Can Vote Absentee – Just Like in Illinois. The Obama camp will argue that they are at a disadvantage because a lot of their supporters are college students who vote absentee. But Michigan law says that a person voting absentee must cast a vote in person before they are eligible to vote absentee which will result in the exclusion of many Obama supporters, of whom many are first time voters. The Obama campaign should be familiar with that sort of system since it’s the rule in Illinois and we didn’t hear too much complaining in the run-up to February 5 primary there. More to the point, this rule will be in place in Michigan for the general election. So will the Obama campaign use this excuse to justify writing off Michigan in the general if Barack Obama is the nominee? We hope not.

The bottom line is that Michigan has all the problems and promise that we talk about in this country. Competing in Michigan sends a signal that Democrats care and understand the people there deserve the chance to make their voices heard and need someone in the White House who will hear their voices.

If Barack Obama doesn’t want to help make that happen, Hillary Clinton is ready to do so. We call on the Obama campaign to let the people of Michigan vote.

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 4:54:33 PM

To Cindy
The DNC never asked anyone to remove their nmaes from the Ballot so they all abided by the rules by either taking their name off or leaving it on.

Posted by: freedom20082009 | Mar 27, 2008 4:53:18 PM

labrat...I have mentioned nothing about the Clinton library or donations...you got the wrong person....

Posted by: cindy | Mar 27, 2008 4:52:21 PM

To miles1967
The only one that needs to leave America is Obama and his RACIST church.

Posted by: freedom20082009 | Mar 27, 2008 4:50:21 PM

freedon20082009...again they abided by the DCN rules.....

Posted by: cindy | Mar 27, 2008 4:49:49 PM

Myth: Hillary and Bill Clinton have control over which documents are released from the Clinton Library.

Fact: Under federal law, records at the Clinton Library are the property of the U.S. government—not Hillary or Bill Clinton. These records are in the custody and control of the National Archives.

As noted in the Washington Post, “Presidential papers can't be released at the snap of a finger”; so “[c]alling on the Clintons to release their papers makes for great campaign theater. But it’s theater that has no bearing on reality.” [Washington Post, 2/8/08; 3/1/08].

Myth: Hillary and Bill Clinton have control over when documents from the Clinton Library are made public.

Fact: The Archives released these schedules in response to a Freedom of Information Act request. The Archives processes those requests on a first come, first served basis, and is required by law to review every line of every page.

As the Archives itself has said: “‘We're releasing them tomorrow because they're ready tomorrow . . . It was as soon as we could get them out.’” [Washington Post, 3/18/08].

Myth: Hillary and Bill Clinton have delayed the release of her White House records by preventing their release from the Clinton Library.

Fact: Hillary and Bill Clinton do not decide when records can be released from the Clinton Library—the Archives does and has said so publicly on the record.

By law, before releasing any documents, the Archives must conduct a page-by-page, line-by-line review of every record to ensure that confidential, security, and personal privacy information is not improperly released.

The Archives has repeatedly stated that that this painstaking process is cumbersome and responsible for the bulk of the time it takes to review and release material. In this case, the Archives took approximately 6 months to complete its review of more than 11,000 pages. For his part, President Clinton's representative completed his review in less than 30 days -- weeks ahead of the time allotted for his review.

Myth: Hillary and Bill Clinton are responsible for the redactions in the White House schedules.

Fact: The Archives made the redactions. According to the Archives, the majority of the redactions in the schedules pertain to the privacy interests of third parties, including their social security numbers, telephone numbers, and home addresses. This information is withheld under federal law.

In fact, President Clinton asked the Archives, to the extent it could under applicable law, to release extensive material in those records that otherwise would have been excluded.

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 4:48:37 PM

mary...rules are rules...Fl and Mi created their own mess. Don't blame it on any candidate...

Posted by: cindy | Mar 27, 2008 4:48:31 PM

Mokopane:

Obama is a dirty politician.

And about NAFTA. His campaign's economic adviser did contact the Canadians not Hillary's campaign.


Obama tried to pin Hillary with it but the truth is that NO CONTACT WAS MADE BY HILLARY CAMPAIGN.

Posted by: libby | Mar 27, 2008 4:48:03 PM

And if you thought that stuff was bad you ain't seen nothing yet. The Republicans have been giving Hillary a free pass and attacking Obama on nonsense because they know if, and I mean big IF, Hillary is the nominee there is much more of this garbage to come! Stay tuned Hillary fans...the show just getting started!!

Posted by: labrat | Mar 27, 2008 4:47:57 PM

cindy said ---shalabalaboo...actually, I am a Republican, and I see Obama as the only candidate for change...so I won't vote at all if Hillay gets the nomination. The first time in my adult life( I am 60 years old)...


So Cindy that means you must have voted for Bush 43 twice. Now all of a sudden "you are ready to save the world"!

Pardon my Scoff!

Posted by: MC | Mar 27, 2008 4:46:33 PM

labrat...Hillary is NOT Bill....

Posted by: cindy | Mar 27, 2008 4:46:01 PM

On February 8, 2008, Barack Obama stood in the aisle of his airplane and told reporters that he would be “fine” with a new primary in Michigan if it could be done in a way that gave him and Senator Clinton time to make their respective cases and the DNC signed off. Since then, such a plan has garnered broad support from top Michigan lawmakers and the DNC has given its blessing.

So Barack Obama is on board, right? Guess again. It turns out that his comments about being fine with a re-vote if the above conditions were met were just words. As yesterday’s headline in the Detroit Free-Press made clear, Senator Obama is the lone standout: “Michigan do-over depends on Obama's backing, Senate leaders say.”

False Excuse #1: Barack Obama Wasn’t on the Ballot. The Obama campaign argues that their candidate wasn’t on the January ballot because the Michigan primary wasn’t sanctioned by the DNC and they were trying to comply with the early state pledge. Let’s remember that the point of the early state pledge was to protect the role of the four states that held early nominating contests. Well the contests in those states were protected and the people in Iowa, South Carolina, New Hampshire and Nevada got a chance to vote. Keep in mind that nearly twice as many people voted in Michigan and Florida than voted in the four early states combined.

Senator Clinton signed the pledge and kept it. Senator Obama signed the pledge and kept it in Michigan. But in so doing, Senator Obama decided to go further and made a voluntary decision to remove his name from the Michigan ballot. That was his right but it was also his decision. As a result, he denied Michigan the opportunity to vote for a slate of candidates. There aren’t many second chances in life but Senator Obama has one now and should ask the people of Michigan for their vote. Why is he refusing to do so?

False Excuse #2: Obama Voters Participated in GOP Primary. The Obama camp will argue that their supporters voted in the GOP primary because Barack Obama wasn’t on the Democratic ballot. They argue that the legislation’s effort to comply with the DNC rules is unfair since the bill would prohibit people who voted in the 2008 GOP primary in Michigan from voting a second time in the Democratic contest.

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 4:45:37 PM

Tekrab...I agree with what you say, but don't jump from the frying pan into the fire...

Posted by: cindy | Mar 27, 2008 4:44:24 PM

So I am correct: In Dreams Of My Father Obama admits to be a racist against the white people and even didn't like the fact his mother was white. Is that why he called his grandmother a typical white women? Obama stayed with that church because he is as racial as his pastor. The white people should wake up and smell the coffee. Black people are going to vote for him only therefore why don't many of the white people have the sense to vote for their own. Can you imagine Wright in the white house along with Farrakhan. That's not the American way.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Mar 27, 2008 4:41:11 PM

Hillary has done and will do anything to get the nomination. perhaps Bill can solicit support from the Chinese. This woman is ruthless. She has never accomplished anything on her own. The only thing she accomplished during her husbands administration was too attack his victems and forgive his indiscretions. People from other nations should not be allwed to get involved in any way. If this woman gets the nomination, I will jump ship and vote for mcCain.

Posted by: Tekrab | Mar 27, 2008 4:40:16 PM

But before we go too far on what a wonderful president Bill was and what a great president Hillary would be...let's not forget these facts!!President Clinton cited executive privilege for his refusal to turn over documents to Congress related to his decision to offer clemency to members of the FALN terrorist group.
In October 2006, the group Judicial Watch filed a request with the U.S. Justice Department for an investigation, alleging that Hilliary had received $107,000 from the Edgar and Vonna Jo Gregory for the pardons, in the form of loans that were never repaid, as part of a quid pro quo scheme.
Marc Rich, a fugitive, was pardoned of tax evasion. Denise Rich, his former wife, had made substantial donations to the Clinton library and to Mrs. Clinton's senate campaign. Emails uncovered during the course of the investigation revealed that her final donation was provided a year before (guess who??) Scooter Libby requested that she approach Clinton for a pardon. According to Paul Volcker's independent investigation of Iraqi Oil-for-Food kickback schemes, Marc Rich was a middleman for several suspect Iraqi oil deals involving over 4 million barrels of oil.
Susan McDougal, who had already completed her sentence, was pardoned for her role in the Whitewater scandal; McDougal had served 18 months on contempt charges for refusing to testify about Clinton's role.

Posted by: labrat | Mar 27, 2008 4:40:13 PM

Now that Kris has given us an uplifting and intelligent remark from the world of gutter politics, let's once again play trivia:

Who proposed, one year and two days before Clinton, a commission to deal with the then looming, now horrific, home foreclosure crisis?

Who stood up to an issue regarding a pastor, but did not condone a spouse for desecrating the Oval Office with both an act of infidelity and a follow-up lie under oath.

Who has dealt with allegations regarding Rezko, but has clean hands regarding Peter Paul?

Who is willing to work with both allies and commanders on the ground to bring our troops home in a reasonable time frame, and not require an irresponsible 6 month withdrawal without consultation of the military?

Who has consistently opposed NAFTA, but then got fingered unfairly for the indiscretions of an opponent's campaign?

Who has released tax records and earmark requests, while the opponent makes excuses?

Who has an unsurmountable lead in pledged delegates, and even with potential losses in some upcoming states will still come out ahead?

The answer is Barack Obama.

Posted by: Mokopane | Mar 27, 2008 4:38:33 PM

To Cindy
All the s names were on the ballot in MI. Obama and Edwards took there names off the ballot and asked the voters to vote undecided. Please get your facts straght.

Posted by: freedom20082009 | Mar 27, 2008 4:38:16 PM

Good post freedom20082009 | Mar 27, 2008 4:10:44 PM

And now..... this election is his wrights, ultra liberal guilt cleansing backers revenge!

Check this out the media stil has much, much checking to do on Obama. The "stuff' flows out like lava, if they will just approach the volcano!

Did Barack Obama Violate the Illinois Governmental Ethics Act?--

Posted by: MC | Mar 27, 2008 4:38:02 PM

Obama on Iraq: Prior To Joining U.S. Senate
While running for senate in 2003, Sen. Obama acknowledged that he took his anti-war speech off his campaign website, calling it 'dated.' Specifically, State Senator Obama maintains that an October 2002 anti-war speech was removed from his campaign web site because “the speech was dated once the formal phase of the war was over, and my staff's desire to continually provide fresh news clips." [Black Commentator, 6/19/03]

Obama in July 2004: 'There’s not much of a difference between my position and George Bush’s position [on Iraq] at this stage.' In a meeting with Chicago Tribune reporters at the Democratic National Convention, Obama said, “On Iraq, on paper, there's not as much difference, I think, between the Bush administration and a Kerry administration as there would have been a year ago. […] There's not much of a difference between my position and George Bush's position at this stage. The difference, in my mind, is who's in a position to execute.” [Chicago Tribune, 07/27/04]

Obama on 2002 Iraq resolution vote: 'What would I have done? I don't know:' "When asked about Senators Kerry and Edwards' votes on the Iraq war, Obama said, "I'm not privy to Senate intelligence reports," Mr. Obama said. "What would I have done? I don't know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made." [New York Times, 07/26/04]

In September 2004, Obama says he ' would be willing to send more soldiers to Iraq.' [AP, 9/19/04]

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27, 2008 4:37:48 PM

They didn't say they couldn't put their names on the ballot.

Posted by: kelly | Mar 27, 2008 4:37:10 PM

Well said, Mokopane: "Those Democrats who would vote for McCain rather than Obama should volunteer for the military so they can sustain our troop levels in Iraq for the next 100 years. But before they go, they should just write a big fat check to a corrupt CEO of their choice."

Posted by: malthusian77 | Mar 27, 2008 4:36:18 PM

linda...check out some of Hillary's voting record...she voted to go to war. How much more screwed up can you get...

Posted by: cindy | Mar 27, 2008 4:34:36 PM

What ever happend to all those big rallies that Obama was having in stadiums?

Posted by: kelly | Mar 27, 2008 4:34:09 PM

I wonder how many americans are sorry that they have voted for Obama in their state primary.

Posted by: ken | Mar 27, 2008 4:32:45 PM

Joe...that is true, Obama wasn't on the ballot in MI. The DCC asked all the candidates not to campaign there or put their names in the ballot. Hillary bulked and decided a win would look good, even though she ran against no one...

Posted by: cindy | Mar 27, 2008 4:32:41 PM