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Michigan to Hold a Caucus?

March 06, 2008 9:39 AM

Michigan Elections News reports that Wolverine State "Democratic officials say they have about 10 days to agree on whether to conduct a party-run caucus for as many as a million voters some time after mid-May.

Delegates selected through a Michigan 'do-over' would count, unlike the results of the Jan. 15 presidential primary that violated national party rules."

- jpt

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Maybe next time Michigan and Florida should play by the rules.

Posted by: cordelia525 | Mar 6, 2008 11:20:33 AM

Eleven22 and others, actually the first occurrence of the caucus format for political purposes goes back to at least 1724. And the political parties have used the caucus format for determining their nominee for president since 1800. Primaries are a "recent" format. Caucuses may be archaic, but the tradition is deeply rooted and they won't be going away any time soon.

Posted by: James Danley | Mar 6, 2008 11:15:22 AM

a) how do you hold a caucus for 1 million people. LAst I heard the DNC was offereing about one caucus site a county.

b) If less people vote than last time, almost certain, Texas caucuses are at about 50% of the primary, they have still disenfranchised people.

Caucuses are about PArty dihards getting together to decide motions for convention, not about a million people picking between two names. To have a caucus for this is absurd.

A mail in vote, paid for by the party, makes more sense.

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 6, 2008 11:09:21 AM

I think everyone should back off a minute. This is a matter for MI to decide (other states were already able to determine their own fates). Caucuses are a legitimate and acceptable forum and waaaay cheaper than a primary and easier to organize for the state party. MI faces a tough challenge in that the only major candidate on ballot was Clinton and uncommitted got a lot of votes. The DNC could never seat such results, so the only "fair" option would be the 50-50 split and allowing the delegates to be seated. If there is no re-vote (or caucus), then the 50-50 split is the only option Pelosi is willing to allow. If the Clinton camp cannot organize for one tremendously important caucus, then something is terribly wrong there. It's a fair fight, let the MI voters decide their own fate.

Posted by: Kevin | Mar 6, 2008 11:05:23 AM

Okay folks, stopping drinking the Clinton Koolaid about caucuses. Some states that have caucuses, Maine for example, allow absentee balloting for those that cannot physically attend. Why wouldn't that be fair?

Posted by: Mike in Iowa | Mar 6, 2008 10:56:12 AM

Caucus itself is not a fair process, Dem should stop it. Only the Dem registered voters can vote in Dem primary because in general election you can vote for one and only one candidate either he/she is Republican or Democrat. In Caucus people can cross the party line voting for someone they don’t like to beat the candidate who will be their strong opponent in general election. I doubt that all the independent voters who claim voting for Mr. Obama will continue supporting him in November 04.

Posted by: stock_craft | Mar 6, 2008 10:49:08 AM

caucasing is unconstitutional it should be removed from all states!

Posted by: eleven22 | Mar 6, 2008 10:42:14 AM

Francis I really want to believe that this is really all Obama wants, all he wants to say is he won over a Clinton and nothing more, as to where this will get him in life I have no idea maybe he knows.

If he cannot win FL in a GE and this mess in FL will have a trickle down effect among Democrats so am not sure exactly where he will win after this, all he seems to be doing is cutting a path for a every easy win for McCain.

Posted by: SJ | Mar 6, 2008 10:28:02 AM

The Black Knight in Shining Armor was
double checked by the Queen by toppling
down his Two Ivory Towers in Ohio and Texas. He wants to continue playing believing that he crashed her in 12
battle grounds.

Senator Obama has nothing to lose. If he wins the nomination or not, he comes out
the winner in his landmark rivalry against the Clintons.

However, in the ultimate end, his is his name to be remembered. Powerless. A symbol of symbols with the vibrancy of a dead coconut tree. Fra

Posted by: Francis Magno | Mar 6, 2008 10:23:29 AM

Florida has said that they will take the name of the Dem nominee off the ballot in Nov if their delegates arent seated! Ouch.

Caucuses are undemocratic and have massive barriers to participation. They are also so that party members can discuss other issues and platforms and resolutions to put forward at convention.

To select between two names with a caucus, essentially a meeting,is absurd.


If this is a caucus only in anme and absentee ballots can count and people can vote over a reasonable time frame and its just a caucus because the aprty pays for it. Fine.

If its the undemocratic nightmare we saw in Texas no way!!! HOw does someone with disabilities or the elderly or someone with children or someone who has to work spend FOur hours- yes four hours waiting before the caucuses began, make a democratic process.

This is third world garbage. Not democracy!

NO CAUCUS!!!

Posted by: s.b. | Mar 6, 2008 10:20:31 AM

"I want the next president to be a Republican, he said, but "I'm the governor for all the people in Florida."

Honestly I have to admire this man, this Republican governor in FL is sure making some of the democrats and the DNC look rather classless.

As a republican he is interested in all the people of FL that their votes are recognized and that is how it should be, Dean should be ashamed, and am very sure democrats will not forget this.

Posted by: SJ | Mar 6, 2008 10:19:53 AM

Meant to say Hillary can carry Ohio and California in the general election and lost the remaining 43 states. Too bad, you don't win election that way. You cant get the electoria votes needed that way.

Posted by: james | Mar 6, 2008 10:14:36 AM

That is why Hillary cannot win the general election. All her remarks about caucus states , red states will come back to hunt her should she be the nominee. How can Ohio and California, illinois, Misouri be the only states that will decide the general election.

Posted by: james | Mar 6, 2008 10:13:00 AM

Hell no ! Yet another way to REALLY stir up the American people.

Posted by: catherine in nm | Mar 6, 2008 10:09:20 AM

This thing is really a mess and maybe Dean does not really care about this election but if he does not sort out this they will lose FL.

I really don't understand if the so want a Democrat in the WH why are they not finding some way to solve this issue, even if Obama get nominated they they really feel that after leaving out FL these voters will run to the poll to give Obama their vote?

Obama his self is even dumber than I taught he is putting his self in a position where FL voters will turn against him in the GE, maybe all he wants to do is win the nomination to prove that he can beat Hillary, when it comes to the GE he does not really care who wins.

Posted by: SJ | Mar 6, 2008 9:56:47 AM

That seems to be designed to play into Hillary's competitors hands, since she won there once already, especially given that it is more difficult for may voters to participate in a caucus. There's no reason that a primary cannot happen, the state does primaries all the time and can couple it with levies or other issues.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 6, 2008 9:50:30 AM

This will work well in favour of Obama. Michigan is a heavily populated African-Americans. They have got a lot of delegates. To make the matter even worse, it will be caucussing! which as it has shown earlier, does not work in favour of Hillary at all.

Posted by: Peace | Mar 6, 2008 9:48:12 AM

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