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More on those Clinton Fat Cats

March 27, 2008 10:43 AM

The 20 Clinton-backing fat cats who vaguely threatened House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to change her tune on superdelegates lest their purses and pocketbooks slam shut have contributed almost "$24 million to Democratic candidates and committees over the last 10 years," according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.

They've donated almost $554,000 to Sen. Hillary Clinton's Senate and presidential campaigns and her leadership PAC -- compared to less than a tenth of that, $52,200, for Sen. Barack Obama.

"To borrow from an investment firm's old ad campaign," says the Center, "when big donors talk, politicians listen."

Also: John Aravosis at Americablog says just under a third of these donors had Lincoln Bedroom overnights. (Perhaps more.)

- jpt

UPDATE:  ABC News' Political Director David Chalian reports that a Democratic operative unaffiliated with either campaign and familiar with the reaction to the letter among Members of Congress says, "Members of Congress - who are superdelegates - make up the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee" or DCCC from which the donors seemed to be threatening to withhold funds.

"Threatening the DCCC is equal to threatening the superdelegates Sen. Hillary Clinton's trying to court. The Clinton donor letter will just push undeclared superdelegates in Congress leaning toward Obama to endorse him sooner.  It also reinforces the narrative that she'll destroy the party to win."

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EVERYONE! Can you set aside emotion for even a few moments to find out what is true vs what is hype or even 100% false, and make your decisions on facts? Opinion is one thing, but there are dozens and dozens of out right ERRORS in these posts. If you want FACTS go to factcheck.org regarding any issues regarding either candidate. I for one want to make my decision based on REAL information.

For those who threaten to vote for McCain, make a list TODAY of all the predictable things that will happen if he were President--regarding war (Bomb Iran?), the economy (he doesn't know much about that, he said), jobs, global warming, health care (forget any progress there). I live in Arizona; I am sitting in my office right now, one block away from McCain's office. While I respect his POW experience, he is a HOTHEAD. There is video footage of him getting into a FIGHT on the Senate floor. Did you see the clip of him losing his temper and getting into the face of a woman reporter who was simply asking him a question he avoided answering? She was speaking in a very calm, measured voice, but she was persistent.

MAKE THE LIST TODAY OF WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT WITH A MCCAIN PRESIDENCY, and set it aside, pull it out in November. Ask yourself then, "Do I want responsibility for voting this person into office?" A man who will keep us at war (do you have draft-age sons, daughters, nieces, nephews, friends?) I DO, and I don't want to lose my loved ones in a war over greed and oil. What about your friends and relatives who have suffered without healthcare or poor coverage, what about your friends, neighbors, and family members who have lost their jobs; and don't forget that McCain has flip flopped his position on torture? When he came out against torture and water-boarding just weeks ago, I called his office and thanked him. My Dad was a Japanese POW and was tortured in WWII. NOW McCain says TORTURE IS OK.

CALM DOWN, THINK, BE RESPONSIBLE. WE CAN'T CONTROL THE FOOLISH REMARKS OF THE CANDIDATES, BUT YOU CAN CONTROL YOURSELF AND BECOME A VOICE OF REASON. WHEN YOU SPEW VENOM, YOU REPRESENT THE CANDIDATE YOU ARE CHAMPIONING.

Posted by: Linda Baugh | Mar 28, 2008 3:52:52 PM

And Bernard Schwartz is on the threat letter to Pelosi (who by the way, I can't stand). Do these people have any honor at all?

Posted by: Mara | Mar 27, 2008 8:22:27 PM

Melissa, You're right. I donate when I can, and I sure haven't bought anything. But I'm not Bernard Schwartz, who has been given trade access to the Chinese through a trip with Ron Brown and the Clitnon Administration, made millions, was convicted of selling missile secrets to the Chinese and had to pay a $14M fine, and the Clintons STILL accept money from him. Not everyone can be bought. That doesn't hold true for the Clintons and their co-presidencies.

Posted by: Mara | Mar 27, 2008 8:20:31 PM

donating money is not the same as "buying" someone!! is it??

Posted by: melissa | Mar 27, 2008 7:30:07 PM

baby you can do it take your time, do it right, we can do it ba-beh....do it to-night...take your tiiiiiiiiiiimeeeeeee.....

Delusional Hillary's been listening to the wrong voices in her head again. Did I mention Clarence Avant ("Take Your Time" byb the S.O.S. Band) is in that group of 20. And Hillary, your campaign is too late to save.

Posted by: kravitz | Mar 27, 2008 6:21:02 PM

Marilyn Cazon writes:
"The one that came up with the "change" concept was John Edwards."
-----
And Edwards is still the one whose actions align with his words. He's also the only one of the candidates who pledged to end "official" surveillance of civilians, who make up the vast majority of the lowly voters.

The Democrats are going to have to overturn the "leadership", and stop their ears to the Obama-pushers in the media, and NOMINATE John Edwards -- or, long about the summer of '09, reap the whirlwind.

Posted by: Navarro | Mar 27, 2008 6:01:16 PM

Navarro: First, back up what you're saying with facts. I mean a quote from a respected media source which proves that "Obama got his start by double-crossing his female mentor."

Second, I don't see Obama's fundraising as a scam and neither do over a million other Americans. I see it as a change - for the better. Grass-roots fundraising is not going away, it's going to grow stronger, and the power and influence of the billionaires who the Clintons have conveniently befriended are going to lessen.

And there is no insult, no lies, no slander, no quote from some extreme right-wing blog that is going to convince me that the 20 millionaires and billionaires who wrote that letter were doing the right thing. They represent the Clinton campaign - everything that is wrong about the Clinton campaign. They expect something out of it - and boy, Bernard Schwartz sure did - a chance to sell missile secrets to the Chinese (NYT, 2002). They are trying to buy this election and it is wrong. What they are going to wind up with is another Republican president - and years of war. Except they won't be hurt, will they? It's regular people who will be hurt - and lose jobs and health care and watch their children die.

Posted by: Mara | Mar 27, 2008 5:59:07 PM

Calls for either candidate to drop out of the race are premature. There are still 10 contests coming up - millions of voters deserve to be heard. Why would the Democratic Party ever want to disenfranchise voters?

It's possible that a faction within the DNC don't want their boy Obama bruised and limping into Denver but isn't the Primary season when we get the chance to kick the tires?

Posted by: s valenti | Mar 27, 2008 5:37:02 PM

To whoever said that Hillary coined the concept of "change" as her campaign motif and that Obama later copied it from her, you are mistaken. The one that came up with the "change" concept was John Edwards. When it became obvious that young voters responded, Obama followed suit and then (3rd in line) came Hillary. But it did not work for her because she is about a lot of things, but change is not one of them. Hillary has always based her campaign in "experience," although she has very little of that too, unless you count her imaginary life in Ireland and Bosnia. In any case, it seems that not even Hillary's $24 million donors can effect the kind of change Hillary is now looking for.

Posted by: Marilyn Cazon | Mar 27, 2008 5:34:06 PM

To whoever said that Hillary coined the concept of "change" as her campaign motif and that Obama later copied it from her, you are mistaken. The one that came up with the "change" concept was John Edwards. When it became obvious that young voters responded, Obama followed suit and then (3rd in line) came Hillary. But it did not work for her because she is about a lot of things, but change is not one of them. Hillary has always based her campaign in "experience," although she has very little of that too, unless you count her imaginary life in Ireland and Bosnia. In any case, it seems that not even Hillary's $24 million donors can effect the kind of change Hillary is now looking for.

Posted by: Marilyn Cazon | Mar 27, 2008 5:31:46 PM

Mara writes:
"... 90 percent of those transactions coming from people who donated $100 or less, and 40 percent from donors who gave $25 or less."
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That over-privileged Obama's included the poor and near-poor in his scam is supposed to make anybody like him BETTER?

This guy got his start by double-crossing his female mentor, then disqualifying all the other candidates for the Illinois Senate seat. That he's now able to scam at a higher level is not a reason he should be president.

Posted by: Navarro | Mar 27, 2008 5:21:14 PM

Politics is a dirty business. To play, you better be damn good. I remember another president that want to change washington: Jimmy Carter. I remember another president who wanted to bring hope and change to Washington: George Bush.

Barack Obama is living in a fantasty fueled by a clever marketing plan. He ripped off Hillary Clinton agenda, her platform and even "change". That was her line when the campagin began. The story her is vendetta politics. Not the candidates. Hillary CLinton is having to pay for her husbands sins.

David Axelrod and all the other democracy party haters of Bill Clinton's are going to see this happen. That's the story the media is not reporting.

Axelrod and the boys, knew to beat the Clinton is was going to take another another appealing black man. Since half the democratic party is made up of blacks. Bill Clinton base was blacks.

In with the spin, the marketing, then branding of Barack Obama. One thing went wrong... the race went on to long, now people are starting to see beyond the hipe. That why Hillary Clinton is still in the race, people are having buyers remorse about Barack Obama.

Posted by: Insider | Mar 27, 2008 4:44:19 PM

So what Rick, Oprah Winfrey in under questioning by by Congress for the amount of stock she is purchasing into other media company. The laws is trying to be amended, guess whos name is on that bill, you got it Barrack Obama.

Posted by: Sherry | Mar 27, 2008 4:23:15 PM

Don't Call Me a Lobbyist!
Even though my name is Chris Korge and Alex Penelas is my best buddy and all the commissioners are indebted to me and I guarantee you'll get that fat county contract
By Jim DeFede


SHOW YOUR TAXES CLINTONS ALL 8 YEARS!!

Posted by: Rick | Mar 27, 2008 3:59:55 PM

The people buying the clintons.. Checkout there history with the clintons!!! SHOW YOUR TAXES CLINTONS ALL 8 YEARS!!!!

Marc Aronchick
Clarence Avant
Susie Tompkins Buell
Sim Farar
Robert L. Johnson
Chris Korge
Marc and Cathy Lasry
Hassan Nemazee
Alan and Susan Patricof
JB Pritzker
Amy Rao
Lynn Forester de Rothschild
Haim Saban
Bernard Schwartz
Stanley S. Shuman
Jay and Tracy Snyder
Maureen White and Steven Rattner

Posted by: Rick | Mar 27, 2008 3:55:26 PM

PRESIDENT CLINTON NAMES SIM FARAR AS U.S. REPRESENTATIVE TO THE FIFTY-FOURTH SESSION OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE UNITED NATIONS

The President today announced his intent to nominate Sim Farar to serve as United States Representative to the Fifty-fourth session of the General Assembly of the United Nations.

All these donars are bought and paid for buy Clinton.. You see what lobbying does!!! Look them all up!!!!

Posted by: Rick | Mar 27, 2008 3:47:33 PM

One more stupid comment like being shot at in Bosnia and Hillary is toast.

Posted by: george | Mar 27, 2008 3:42:56 PM

to Joe:

And what would you call the cabal of evangelical television ministers with a long history of damning America who have direct access to the White House now?

Posted by: Kevin | Mar 27, 2008 3:41:56 PM

clarence avant key roles in President Clinton's presidential campaigns and currently serves as Resident Jamaican Trade Counsel....HMMMM More and better appointments!!!!

SHOW YOUR TAXES CLINTONS ALL 8 YEARS

Posted by: Rick | Mar 27, 2008 3:40:24 PM

Anyone who thinks that Hillary cares about them, their children, their families or this country hasn't been paying attention. This is all about winning for Hillary. Winning a job she thought was hers. She wants to win by any mans necessary. We are gong to be bombarded with Rev. wright so we won't pay attention to her Bosnia lies, her NAFTA lies, her Ireland Peace Treaty lies, on and on and on. Now they are Blackmailing and threatening their donars making them write to Nancy Pelosi. Or I just we are just supposed to believe that all these fat cats had this idea all at once on their own, yea right. The Clintons are poison for the Democratic Party!

Posted by: julescator | Mar 27, 2008 3:38:13 PM

I don't like McCain at all but I will never vote for Obama. I will protest against Obama if he is the nominee. He will make this country and this world just like the church he has attended for the past 20 years --hate filled. I know a lot of you Obama supporters would like that.

Posted by: sean | Mar 27, 2008 3:03:44 PM

Hillary is using every dispicable and crooked angle to try and undercut Senator Obama. Why in the world are these donors writing to Ms Pelosi with veiled but real threats? You can bet your bottom dollar they did not do this on their own, they were following Hillary and Bill's requests (orders, actually).

Hillary, Bill, and their campaign heads want to place themselves in the White House. Believe me, Hillary's "team" would become part of her administration. They have ALL run a horrible campaign: Infighting, loose tongues, poor money management, Bill suffers from Diarrhea of the mouth, and horrific political trash-and-burn tactics. Hillary keeps changing her persona; do Hillary's supporters know WHICH of the MANY Hillaries for whom they are voting?? Hillary also keeps changing her stance and she has lied and lied big time about Bosnia, AFTA, her experience, and much, much more. She thinks smaller states are unimportant and don't matter; she thinks caucus states are undemocratic and don't matter. She has belittled and insulted the voters from these states as NOT BEING REAL. She pledges to accept and abide with the DNC rules, (but only when things go her way; otherwise she wants the rules changed to benefit HER). In short, Hillary's tactics are really hard to stomach!

Someone earlier stated Senator Obama could not take what Senator McCain may hit him with in the General Election. To that person and others of the same ilk, I say: Senator Obama has definitely withstood the Clintons' dirty politicking and has risen above them. We have this young senator from Illinois (David) who takes on "THE CLINTON MACHINE" (Goliath) and he brings them down several notches. I would say that is one of the many good reasons to make him our President!! Senator Obama has proven himself as a man of great strength, good character, integrity, honesty, superb leadership and managerial skills (Note how smoothly his campaign has been run), a great manager of his campaign funds, and definitely a wonderful uniter---it is SOLELY because of Senator Obama's (and his campaign's) great efforts and hard work that we are seeing voters going to the polls and the caucuses in such huge and record numbers! I would say he has already succeeded in uniting the Democrat Party!

It is sad to see his efforts and hard work in unting the party being torn apart by Hillary, Bill, and their campaign, and their filthy and dishonest political tactics. Hillary and her gang are destroying the Democrat Party; they have placed THEMSELVES above the states, the voters, the party, and the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The United States got rid of Saddam, the dictator in Iraq. Now Hillary is employing the same dictatorship methods, treating our country and its citizens like Saddam himself treated the Iraqis. "If we cannot win democratically, by golly, I will force myself into the Office of the Presidency, no matter how many dead and injured we leave behind!!" Very, very sad, indeed!

Posted by: NinaK | Mar 27, 2008 3:00:34 PM

Hillary is using every dispicable angle to try and undercut Senator Obama. Why in the world are these donors writing to Ms Pelosi with veiled but real threats? You can bet your bottom dollar they did not do this on their own, they were following Hillary and Bill's requests (orders, actually).

Hillary, Bill, and their campaign heads want to place themselves in the White House. Believe me, Hillary's "team" would become part of her administration. They have ALL run a horrible campaign: Infighting, loose tongues, poor money management, Bill suffers from Diarrhea of the mouth, dispicable political trash-and-burn tactics. Hillary keeps changing her persona; do Hillary's supporters know WHICH of the MANY Hillaries for whom they are voting?? Hillary also keeps changing her stance and she has lied big time about Bosnia, AFTA, her experience, and much, much more. She thinks smaller states are unimportant and don't matter; she thinks caucus states are undemocratic and don't matter. She has belittled and insulted the voters from these states as NOT BEING REAL. In short, Hillary's tactics are really hard to stomach!

Someone earlier stated Senator Obama could not take what Senator McCain may hit him with in the General Election. To that person and others of the same ilk, I say: Senator has definitely withstood the Clintons' dirty politicking and has risen above them. We have this young senator from Illinois (David) who takes on "THE CLINTON MACHINE" (Goliath) and he brings them down several notches. I would say that is one of many good reasons to make him our President!! Senator Obama has proven himself as a man of great strength, good character, integrity, honesty, superb leadership and managerial skills (Note how smoothly his campaign has been run), a great manager of his campaign funds, definitely a wonderful uniter---it is SOLELY because of Senator Obamas great efforts and hard work that we are seeing voters going to the polls and the caucuses in such huge numbers! I would say he has already succeeded in uniting the Democrat Party!

It is sad to see his efforts and hard work in unting the party being torn apart by Hillary, Bill, and their campaign and their filthy and dishonest political tactics. Hillary and her gang are destroying the Democrat Party; they have placed THEMSELVES above the states, the voters, the party, and the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The United States got rid of Saddam, the dictator in Iraq. Now Hillary is employing the same dictator methods, treating our country and its citizens like Saddam himself treated the Iraqis. "If we cannot do it democratically, by golly, I will force myself into the Office of the Presidency, no matter how many dead and injured we leave behind!!" Very, very sad, indeed!

Posted by: NinaK | Mar 27, 2008 2:42:58 PM

It is absolutely unbelievable how the Clintons have convinced their followers that Obama is a liar, that he was the one who started the negative campaign, that Obama is a Muslim, that Obama should be held accountable for the Michigan legislature unwillingness to agree on a revote!! All you need to do is to listen to the news and read a bit of history if you were not an adult during the 90s.

How can you let a candidate think for you? Yes, Obama has a lot of shortcomings and yes more will surface about him in the next few months, but how could you possible ignore the history of the Clintons! What a state of denial!

They both have problem areas; they're human. But just don't deny your candidate's shortcomings by attacking the other. At least, acknolwedge that while talking about one or another candidate unfair game, you are being much more unfair by not being balanced.

It strikes me that Clinton's supporters are fanatics too and of the worse kind. Have you noticed how many of them write blogs all in CAPS, just to convey anger?

Thanks to the blogger who posted on the civil suit against the Clintons for campaign fraud in LA County. Not much press coverage on that one. I checked it out and he's right. Filed in 2003 it's still pending trial, now scheduled for April 25th.

Posted by: SVO | Mar 27, 2008 2:38:14 PM


Geevil said: "A Clinton /Obama ticket can't be beat and I hope Obama realizes that."

I certainly think a Clinton/Obama ticket could be pretty strong, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that without Obama, she doesn't fare so well. So why not just lose the losing part of the ticket, especially when he already polls so well on his own?

Whereas, based on recently released opinion polls, I doubt an Obama/Clinton ticket would help him at all. How did she manage to make such a bad negativity rating even worse?

Still, I find it funny that supporters of the 2nd place candidate try to come up with rational arguments to say why she should be 1st and the 1st place 2nd.

I remember in 200 when somebody asked Al Gore if he wished Ralph Nader would drop out of the race, he responded with a laugh and said, "Actually, I wish George Bush would!" To me, this is that same kind of wish... at least in Al Gore's case he knew it was a joke.

Posted by: patrick | Mar 27, 2008 2:23:00 PM

The super-delegates are supposed to do what is best for the party. The Clintons think they are the party, the elections have proved them wrong. They are the ones with "experience" but were caught unprepared after Super-Tuesday. Excuses, excuses just like Bush they want us to listen to fairy tails. People like Tony who have no knowledge since he repeats the lies of the Clintons.
Tony's thinking: if the fat cats contribute to the party they should own it. That is fascist thinking, that makes you a Republican.

Posted by: gator-ron | Mar 27, 2008 2:19:59 PM

The fact is it was a war zone the news cast even said it was risky for the first lady

Posted by: Bishop | Mar 27, 2008 2:19:03 PM

Obama has a lot of little supporters as does clinton and like Clinton he gets 90 % from big supporters MSNBC did a whole hour on a friday night where was everyone on spring break or partying some place.

Posted by: Bishop | Mar 27, 2008 2:16:43 PM

the rest of your can act in accordance with your hatred and your pride.....I will always act for the love and protection of my family

Posted by: chris | Mar 27, 2008 2:16:18 PM

Clinton will send all those that support Obama to Gitmo!

She loves this nation and will not allow unpatriotic people to live in it.

Posted by: J | Mar 27, 2008 2:15:05 PM

because I love my son and want what is best for him, I am supporting Senator Clinton because she is capable of achieving that which is in his best interests as well as the best interests of all our children, our troops and America....additionally, she is the only one who can win in November.....my child does not need mccain in the white house and neither does yours.....Senator Clinton for President....she will be successful in her campaign for the White House, and she will be successful in her campaign for a better future for America

Posted by: chris | Mar 27, 2008 2:14:56 PM

Everyone knows that both Obama and CLinton can not win without the supers

Posted by: Bishop | Mar 27, 2008 2:08:27 PM

roger - Sorry to burst your bubble but that is not a lie. You are voting for Obama and you do not know this. What else do you not know. Voting blind - Figures. Google and find the truth.

Posted by: freedom20082009 | Mar 27, 2008 2:07:14 PM

I am having a hard time stopping laughing. how people can insist obama gets his way and no revote in Michigan or Florida because that is the democratic party rule laid out before the nomination. But,they don't want to play by the rules when it comes to the longer standing rule on super delegates. Gimme a break all you well educated sincere party of the people members.I may die laughing here.

Posted by: Beau | Mar 27, 2008 2:06:57 PM

Poor and Unemployed, that is not true. They do remove posts that are disrespectful, regardless of the slant, and the responses to those posts. I expect they will remove this one fairly quickly, too. LOL.

Posted by: Jill | Mar 27, 2008 2:06:04 PM

That was funny!!!! Fool agains!!!! LOL!! I like that!!!

Clinton SHOW YOUR TAXES ALL 8 YEARS!!! YOU "FOOLAGAINS" !!!LOL!!!

Posted by: Sherry | Mar 27, 2008 2:05:26 PM

obamakerry followers have consistently shown that the only way they know how to support obamakerry is to harmlessly attack Senator Clinton.....I wonder why they are unable to actually argue FOR obamakerry instead of against his opponent?

Posted by: chris | Mar 27, 2008 2:04:57 PM

Clinton supporters have completely lost it. They have let emotion for their candidate cloud rational thought. Keep threatining the party. Keep campaigning negatively. Who cares if the Democratic party is in jeapordy. As long as Clinton has a 2% chance, let's destroy the party. Pathetic excuse for Democrats.

Posted by: Demcratic SuperDelegate | Mar 27, 2008 2:04:12 PM

obamakerry acted like a deer in the headlights when he finally came under some scrutiny before the texas and ohio primaries and he subsequently lost 3 of 4 after winning the last 11......he has shown that his campaign will inevitably falter when such anti-American special interest groups target his candidacy for the White House

Posted by: chris | Mar 27, 2008 2:02:24 PM

DNC rules for the nominating process:
(1) a delegate hasn't won until they get 2,024 pledged delegates

So, if neither candidate reaches the 2,024 threshold by pledged delegates then neither candidate has won.

(2) the super delegates are to exercise their independent judgment as to the candidate they vote for.

One of them may be ahead, but he/she has not won. Further, the super delegates are not obligated, in any way, to vote for the candidate who is ahead in pledged delegates, popular vote or any other measure.

These are the DNC rules. ( NANCY PELOSI is NOT following her own Party RULES - Something really wrong here!)
The Superdelegates know the DNC rules and they know what they are expected to do. They do not need NANCY PELOSI to tell them how they should vote, she should stay out of it.

Posted by: freedom20082009 | Mar 27, 2008 2:02:04 PM

Hillary Clinton voted to support Bush's cowboy diplomacy that even McCain is backing away from now. Hillary is the zombie candidate. The walking dead.

Posted by: TrueBlue Democrat | Mar 27, 2008 2:00:38 PM

Clinton fat cats to Nancy Pelosi:
Stop telling the super-delegates to follow the will of the people and allow them to listen to the lies of the Clintons. We could not win at the polls so lets change the rules. With our money we are entitled to buy this nomination. The Democratic Party has not been in touch with the people for years. We need Obama so that the people have a say. This nomination has taught me much about the attitude of the rich in the Democratic party.

The Obama nomination means the people will be the Democratic Party.

Posted by: gator-ron | Mar 27, 2008 2:00:27 PM

Senator Clinton will thoroughly embarrass mccain in every debate they have, but more importantly, she will be able to survive the most vicious attacks from anti-American groups whose only goal is to keep the white house in republican hands.....after all, she's done it for over 14 years

Posted by: chris | Mar 27, 2008 2:00:24 PM

i genuinely feel sorry for obamakerry supporters because the emotional downfall you will experience when the obamakerry campaign ultimately, inevitably fails this year will be very trying

Posted by: chris | Mar 27, 2008 1:58:46 PM

Clinton defeat terror.... She can't even defeat her taxes!!!!!ALL 8 YEARS HILARY AND BILL ALL 8YEARS OF TAXES!!!!SHOW THEM

Posted by: Rick | Mar 27, 2008 1:58:37 PM

Senator Clinton is the ONLY candidate capable of establishing and leading an international coalition to defeat terrorism, thereby decreasing the risks and dangers that our soldiers face everyday and we face every time we travel abroad

Posted by: chris | Mar 27, 2008 1:57:05 PM

I don't think Hillary can beat McCain. Rebublicans and even some Dems hate her too much

Posted by: maryland | Mar 27, 2008 1:56:42 PM

Freedom20082009 You work for the clintons don't you? You dirty dirty racist..... CLINTONS SHOW YOUR TAXES ALL 8 YEARS

Posted by: SoCal | Mar 27, 2008 1:55:33 PM

Senator Clinton has not conceded this race because obamakerry has made sure that he will lose to mccain and the swift boat vets special interest groups.....America cannot afford to have mccain as the next President and that means America cannot afford to have obamakerry be the nominee

Posted by: chris | Mar 27, 2008 1:54:56 PM

I see the new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll has Hillary Clintons negatives at a career high 48%. So half the country views her negatively and somehow her supporters thinks she has a chance in a general election. Now that is some serious kool-aid drinking.

Posted by: Reality sucks | Mar 27, 2008 1:54:38 PM

The Earth is flat. HILLARY 08!

Posted by: Matt | Mar 27, 2008 1:53:59 PM

Why should the superdelegates vote for anyone but whom their constituents voted for?

Posted by: roger | Mar 27, 2008 1:53:46 PM

It pretty simple--It all depends on what your definition of "is" is and what your definition of "voter" is, "vote" is, "delegate" is, "won" is, "lead" is, "will of the people" is, "entitlement" is, and so on.

Posted by: dennis | Mar 27, 2008 1:51:35 PM

obamakerry manipulated the sensibilities of African-American voters by falsely and maliciously accusing Senator Clinton of somehow demeaning Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Posted by: chris | Mar 27, 2008 1:50:54 PM

Could somebody please post precisely who the 20 are?


C'mon Joe . Really. are you a typical Obama supporter? If it's not on Obama's website it doesn't exist? The names are in the original blog.

Posted by: geevill | Mar 27, 2008 1:50:11 PM

I agree the republicans are tying to outsmart the Dems., cast your vote for Hillary, she'll bring Obama along with her. It's not about black and white, iot's about right. A Clinton /Obama ticket can't be beat and I hope Obama realizes that.

Posted by: Rosie Crockett | Mar 27, 2008 1:49:53 PM

I agree the republicans are tying to outsmart the Dems., cast your vote for Hillary, she'll bring Obama along with her. It's not about black and white, iot's about right. A Clinton /Obama ticket can't be beat and I hope Obama realizes that.

Posted by: Rosie Crockett | Mar 27, 2008 1:49:46 PM

obamakerry supporters unable to see that only Senator Clinton will be the best President for our children, our troops and America.....like Tommy Lee Jones said in Men in Black: a person is smart. people are stupid.

Posted by: chris | Mar 27, 2008 1:49:05 PM

Who's acting scared about Obama losing. I think it's the other way around

Posted by: erin | Mar 27, 2008 1:47:57 PM

nader and obamakerry supporters have the same problem: unable to see a difference between two sides (Clinton and mccain).....such a failure of observation last time helped to elect a man whose incompetence led to the deaths of now over 4,000 American soldiers

Posted by: chris | Mar 27, 2008 1:46:56 PM

obamakerry is ripe for the attacking by swift boat vets part 2....only Senator Clinton can withstand their vicious campaign

Posted by: chris | Mar 27, 2008 1:45:00 PM

"ok here is a suggestion: If you don't like the way the the Democratic nomination is playing out, if you don't like the Super Delegate Rules, if your tired of the Clintons leave. Go join Nadar or the republicans or start your own party. Take Obama with you, too."

Hey, Beau: YOU are the one backing the loser! Checked the popular vote or delegate count lately?

Posted by: tom | Mar 27, 2008 1:44:53 PM

it is impossible for obama to win in November

Posted by: chris | Mar 27, 2008 1:43:43 PM

Im beginning to wonder where the $5Million Hillary loaned her campaign came from. Do you think she had that much cash lying around? Would like to see those tax returns and a financial statement.

Posted by: roger | Mar 27, 2008 1:41:18 PM

Yes, If everyone will stand up! Speak or type! Lets force the Clintons to show the last 8 years of there taxes! NOT JUST 2007!!! SHOW YOUR TAXES CLINTONS!!! THE LAST 8 YEARS!!!!

Posted by: Rick | Mar 27, 2008 1:36:14 PM

ok here is a suggestion: If you don't like the way the the Democratic nomination is playing out, if you don't like the Super Delegate Rules, if your tired of the Clintons leave. Go join Nadar or the republicans or start your own party. Take Obama with you, too.

Posted by: beau | Mar 27, 2008 1:33:46 PM

I was a clinton supporter back in the day. But there corruption and lies. Showed me. That they are too evil for this country. I can't believe people will vote and be fooled again! Bush you voted for him the first time. Okay I forgive you. But the second time. How dum can you be? Do not do it with these Clintons. They are evil. Like SoCal said. "SHOW YOUR TAXES! CLINTONS!! ALL OF THEM!! NOT JUST 2007!!!! ALL 8 YEARS!!!!

Posted by: Sherry | Mar 27, 2008 1:33:01 PM

She can take her super donors and put them where the sun doesn't shine. I'm a laidoff construction worker and I donated to Obama. $25 is all but I wanted him to have it. Let the small people have a say in this. An Obama-Bloomberg ticket would be nice also.

Posted by: JWG | Mar 27, 2008 1:31:33 PM

Im so confused. I wish Cher, Barbara Striesand and Geraldine Ferrara would get together and make a public service announcement about who the superdelegates should vote for. Maybe Gloria Stienem too. Then we would know for sure who should be leading this country.

Posted by: Dennis | Mar 27, 2008 1:26:55 PM

I wonder if they do only show 2007 taxes.. The Clintons that is!!

Posted by: Rick | Mar 27, 2008 1:25:35 PM

Nancy Pelosi is one of the reasons why some democrats would rather vote for McCain.

Posted by: Haha | Mar 27, 2008 1:25:27 PM

What? Shocker of all shockers. You mean Bill & Hillary will do anything to get elected? They are rightful heirs to the throne aren't they? How dare Barack Obama, or John McCain campaign against them? Seriously, does anyone doubt that Bill and Hillary are pathological liars? Look at the threats they made against all the women Bill was messing around with. You can bet those who wish to withhold their donations to the DNC are urged on by Bill and Hillary. Let them do it. It will only help Hillary's competition.

Posted by: Jerry Rockwell | Mar 27, 2008 1:24:51 PM

Does anyone still think this woman is worthy to lead the country? Let me count the ways she isn't. 1) LYING about Bosnia, her representation of McDougal while at the Rose Law Firm, and her involvement in the firings of Travelgate (Evidently perjury runs in the family). 2) Agreeing to respect the party rules and discount Michigan and Florida- until she needed them - then reneging. 3) Standing by backers who THREATENED Pelosi and the DCCC. 4) Saying she'll try to flip the pledged delegates. 5) Failure to produce tax returns - and if and when she does so it will only be in response to immense public pressure. McCain and Obama have released everything going back for years.

Give me someone who offers transparent leadership, uninfluenced by big donors, PACs and lobbyists, who wants to streamline government and still look out for the little guy. Give me Obama, and if not him, then McCain. You couldn't get me to vote for HRC if you put a gun to my head.

Posted by: LKH | Mar 27, 2008 1:24:05 PM

Excuse me, I meant the super delegates are supposed to use independent JUDGEMENT. I need to proofread before I hurriedly click post!

Posted by: katrin | Mar 27, 2008 1:23:18 PM

I thought the super delegates were supposed to use independent rather than "the will of the people" as Pelosi put it. If you try to define the will of the people,delegate votes vs popular vote, it gets even murkier. I would sure like to read the actual words and context of this vaguely cited "vague threat" which has been so much been exploited by the media and the Obama camaign.

Posted by: katrina | Mar 27, 2008 1:19:55 PM

Like I said, I don't care about who HE is giving to.

The important numbers about Obama's coalition to me are...

$109 average donation amount to the Obama campaign.

1.4 million, perhaps 1.8 million, (still trying to verify) individuals who have donated to Obama. That's not donations, but individuals. I've donated 4 times, I'm merely one in 1.4 million.

Now that's some power. We the people kind of power.

Posted by: Jill | Mar 27, 2008 1:19:52 PM

Here in Ohio there are so many people struggling to really offer there family a sense of security by keeping their job and there houses, and have some kind of savings. Our schools are poor, not just because of lack of resources, but also because of lack of substance -kids are turned off by curriculums that don't help them make sense of there lives. People have been patriotically spending at bestbuy only to find out too late that their massive consumerism comes at a price. They are maxed out on credit cards and refinancing and are now being told not to pay debt with there Irs checks, but go spend money.

Meanwhile so many of us have outstanding medical bills and are a paycheck away from utter despair while the government is HELPING the big companies like in the mortgage crisis with billions in help for raping citizens with unfair loans and refusing to rewrite them.

If you'll on here want to be bitter, there is much to be bitter about. If you want to help, please return to the issues.

I voted for Obama in Ohio primary because he can both call on citizens to be responsible for bettering their lives and hold government and businesses responsible for their behavior. So he says -they all make promises.

I don't mind people differing by voting for someone else. However, what bothers me is that we allow media to keep all of us side tracked while conditions in this country for the average worker gets progressively worse.

Posted by: cman | Mar 27, 2008 1:18:07 PM

dogsoldier, I don't care who he's GIVING money to. I want to know who's buying HIM. And the answer is... it's the American people, at least 1.4 million (though I've heard 1.8 too but can't verify) of whom have given him on average about $100, some of them a few times, though most just once.

Get a grip.

Posted by: Jill | Mar 27, 2008 1:11:34 PM

Clintons invited Rev Wright to white house (if he is such a hate monger, then why invite him to white house?).
Bill sent airforce and navy seals to Haiti and almost caused an all out civil war when Jimmy Carter was there getting a peace deal signed.
Bill was more interested in attacking N. Korea instead of dialogue and peaceful resolution. He didn't care to give Carter permission to travel to N Korea for talks.

I haven't a single instance where Hillary congradulating Obama on any of his primary wins. I have seen many instance of Obama congradulating Hillary on her wins.

Afer insulting the African American folks, it took over two months before an apology was issued by the Clinton camp. Even that came only because of primary in Mississippi was approaching. I can't understand why people still support selfish liar Clintons.

Even Jimmy Carter said that Clintons will be your friend only when they need something from you. Carter is an old man doing charity work by building homes for the poor and delivering medicines to people in poverty and decease ridden parts deep in Africa. There is no reason for him to say anything untrue about Clinton. Even when Carter reveals the truth ab