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More on those Clinton Fat Cats
March 27, 2008 10:43 AM
The 20 Clinton-backing fat cats who vaguely threatened House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to change her tune on superdelegates lest their purses and pocketbooks slam shut have contributed almost "$24 million to Democratic candidates and committees over the last 10 years," according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.
They've donated almost $554,000 to Sen. Hillary Clinton's Senate and presidential campaigns and her leadership PAC -- compared to less than a tenth of that, $52,200, for Sen. Barack Obama.
"To borrow from an investment firm's old ad campaign," says the Center, "when big donors talk, politicians listen."
Also: John Aravosis at Americablog says just under a third of these donors had Lincoln Bedroom overnights. (Perhaps more.)
- jpt
UPDATE: ABC News' Political Director David Chalian reports that a Democratic operative unaffiliated with either campaign and familiar with the reaction to the letter among Members of Congress says, "Members of Congress - who are superdelegates - make up the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee" or DCCC from which the donors seemed to be threatening to withhold funds.
"Threatening the DCCC is equal to threatening the superdelegates Sen. Hillary Clinton's trying to court. The Clinton donor letter will just push undeclared superdelegates in Congress leaning toward Obama to endorse him sooner. It also reinforces the narrative that she'll destroy the party to win."
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EVERYONE! Can you set aside emotion for even a few moments to find out what is true vs what is hype or even 100% false, and make your decisions on facts? Opinion is one thing, but there are dozens and dozens of out right ERRORS in these posts. If you want FACTS go to factcheck.org regarding any issues regarding either candidate. I for one want to make my decision based on REAL information.
For those who threaten to vote for McCain, make a list TODAY of all the predictable things that will happen if he were President--regarding war (Bomb Iran?), the economy (he doesn't know much about that, he said), jobs, global warming, health care (forget any progress there). I live in Arizona; I am sitting in my office right now, one block away from McCain's office. While I respect his POW experience, he is a HOTHEAD. There is video footage of him getting into a FIGHT on the Senate floor. Did you see the clip of him losing his temper and getting into the face of a woman reporter who was simply asking him a question he avoided answering? She was speaking in a very calm, measured voice, but she was persistent.
MAKE THE LIST TODAY OF WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT WITH A MCCAIN PRESIDENCY, and set it aside, pull it out in November. Ask yourself then, "Do I want responsibility for voting this person into office?" A man who will keep us at war (do you have draft-age sons, daughters, nieces, nephews, friends?) I DO, and I don't want to lose my loved ones in a war over greed and oil. What about your friends and relatives who have suffered without healthcare or poor coverage, what about your friends, neighbors, and family members who have lost their jobs; and don't forget that McCain has flip flopped his position on torture? When he came out against torture and water-boarding just weeks ago, I called his office and thanked him. My Dad was a Japanese POW and was tortured in WWII. NOW McCain says TORTURE IS OK.
CALM DOWN, THINK, BE RESPONSIBLE. WE CAN'T CONTROL THE FOOLISH REMARKS OF THE CANDIDATES, BUT YOU CAN CONTROL YOURSELF AND BECOME A VOICE OF REASON. WHEN YOU SPEW VENOM, YOU REPRESENT THE CANDIDATE YOU ARE CHAMPIONING.
Posted by: Linda Baugh | Mar 28, 2008 3:52:52 PM
And Bernard Schwartz is on the threat letter to Pelosi (who by the way, I can't stand). Do these people have any honor at all?
Posted by: Mara | Mar 27, 2008 8:22:27 PM
Melissa, You're right. I donate when I can, and I sure haven't bought anything. But I'm not Bernard Schwartz, who has been given trade access to the Chinese through a trip with Ron Brown and the Clitnon Administration, made millions, was convicted of selling missile secrets to the Chinese and had to pay a $14M fine, and the Clintons STILL accept money from him. Not everyone can be bought. That doesn't hold true for the Clintons and their co-presidencies.
Posted by: Mara | Mar 27, 2008 8:20:31 PM
donating money is not the same as "buying" someone!! is it??
Posted by: melissa | Mar 27, 2008 7:30:07 PM
baby you can do it take your time, do it right, we can do it ba-beh....do it to-night...take your tiiiiiiiiiiimeeeeeee.....
Delusional Hillary's been listening to the wrong voices in her head again. Did I mention Clarence Avant ("Take Your Time" byb the S.O.S. Band) is in that group of 20. And Hillary, your campaign is too late to save.
Posted by: kravitz | Mar 27, 2008 6:21:02 PM
Marilyn Cazon writes:
"The one that came up with the "change" concept was John Edwards."
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And Edwards is still the one whose actions align with his words. He's also the only one of the candidates who pledged to end "official" surveillance of civilians, who make up the vast majority of the lowly voters.
The Democrats are going to have to overturn the "leadership", and stop their ears to the Obama-pushers in the media, and NOMINATE John Edwards -- or, long about the summer of '09, reap the whirlwind.
Posted by: Navarro | Mar 27, 2008 6:01:16 PM
Navarro: First, back up what you're saying with facts. I mean a quote from a respected media source which proves that "Obama got his start by double-crossing his female mentor."
Second, I don't see Obama's fundraising as a scam and neither do over a million other Americans. I see it as a change - for the better. Grass-roots fundraising is not going away, it's going to grow stronger, and the power and influence of the billionaires who the Clintons have conveniently befriended are going to lessen.
And there is no insult, no lies, no slander, no quote from some extreme right-wing blog that is going to convince me that the 20 millionaires and billionaires who wrote that letter were doing the right thing. They represent the Clinton campaign - everything that is wrong about the Clinton campaign. They expect something out of it - and boy, Bernard Schwartz sure did - a chance to sell missile secrets to the Chinese (NYT, 2002). They are trying to buy this election and it is wrong. What they are going to wind up with is another Republican president - and years of war. Except they won't be hurt, will they? It's regular people who will be hurt - and lose jobs and health care and watch their children die.
Posted by: Mara | Mar 27, 2008 5:59:07 PM
Calls for either candidate to drop out of the race are premature. There are still 10 contests coming up - millions of voters deserve to be heard. Why would the Democratic Party ever want to disenfranchise voters?
It's possible that a faction within the DNC don't want their boy Obama bruised and limping into Denver but isn't the Primary season when we get the chance to kick the tires?
Posted by: s valenti | Mar 27, 2008 5:37:02 PM
To whoever said that Hillary coined the concept of "change" as her campaign motif and that Obama later copied it from her, you are mistaken. The one that came up with the "change" concept was John Edwards. When it became obvious that young voters responded, Obama followed suit and then (3rd in line) came Hillary. But it did not work for her because she is about a lot of things, but change is not one of them. Hillary has always based her campaign in "experience," although she has very little of that too, unless you count her imaginary life in Ireland and Bosnia. In any case, it seems that not even Hillary's $24 million donors can effect the kind of change Hillary is now looking for.
Posted by: Marilyn Cazon | Mar 27, 2008 5:34:06 PM
To whoever said that Hillary coined the concept of "change" as her campaign motif and that Obama later copied it from her, you are mistaken. The one that came up with the "change" concept was John Edwards. When it became obvious that young voters responded, Obama followed suit and then (3rd in line) came Hillary. But it did not work for her because she is about a lot of things, but change is not one of them. Hillary has always based her campaign in "experience," although she has very little of that too, unless you count her imaginary life in Ireland and Bosnia. In any case, it seems that not even Hillary's $24 million donors can effect the kind of change Hillary is now looking for.
Posted by: Marilyn Cazon | Mar 27, 2008 5:31:46 PM
Mara writes:
"... 90 percent of those transactions coming from people who donated $100 or less, and 40 percent from donors who gave $25 or less."
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That over-privileged Obama's included the poor and near-poor in his scam is supposed to make anybody like him BETTER?
This guy got his start by double-crossing his female mentor, then disqualifying all the other candidates for the Illinois Senate seat. That he's now able to scam at a higher level is not a reason he should be president.
Posted by: Navarro | Mar 27, 2008 5:21:14 PM
Politics is a dirty business. To play, you better be damn good. I remember another president that want to change washington: Jimmy Carter. I remember another president who wanted to bring hope and change to Washington: George Bush.
Barack Obama is living in a fantasty fueled by a clever marketing plan. He ripped off Hillary Clinton agenda, her platform and even "change". That was her line when the campagin began. The story her is vendetta politics. Not the candidates. Hillary CLinton is having to pay for her husbands sins.
David Axelrod and all the other democracy party haters of Bill Clinton's are going to see this happen. That's the story the media is not reporting.
Axelrod and the boys, knew to beat the Clinton is was going to take another another appealing black man. Since half the democratic party is made up of blacks. Bill Clinton base was blacks.
In with the spin, the marketing, then branding of Barack Obama. One thing went wrong... the race went on to long, now people are starting to see beyond the hipe. That why Hillary Clinton is still in the race, people are having buyers remorse about Barack Obama.
Posted by: Insider | Mar 27, 2008 4:44:19 PM
So what Rick, Oprah Winfrey in under questioning by by Congress for the amount of stock she is purchasing into other media company. The laws is trying to be amended, guess whos name is on that bill, you got it Barrack Obama.
Posted by: Sherry | Mar 27, 2008 4:23:15 PM
Don't Call Me a Lobbyist!
Even though my name is Chris Korge and Alex Penelas is my best buddy and all the commissioners are indebted to me and I guarantee you'll get that fat county contract
By Jim DeFede
SHOW YOUR TAXES CLINTONS ALL 8 YEARS!!
Posted by: Rick | Mar 27, 2008 3:59:55 PM
The people buying the clintons.. Checkout there history with the clintons!!! SHOW YOUR TAXES CLINTONS ALL 8 YEARS!!!!
Marc Aronchick
Clarence Avant
Susie Tompkins Buell
Sim Farar
Robert L. Johnson
Chris Korge
Marc and Cathy Lasry
Hassan Nemazee
Alan and Susan Patricof
JB Pritzker
Amy Rao
Lynn Forester de Rothschild
Haim Saban
Bernard Schwartz
Stanley S. Shuman
Jay and Tracy Snyder
Maureen White and Steven Rattner
Posted by: Rick | Mar 27, 2008 3:55:26 PM
PRESIDENT CLINTON NAMES SIM FARAR AS U.S. REPRESENTATIVE TO THE FIFTY-FOURTH SESSION OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE UNITED NATIONS
The President today announced his intent to nominate Sim Farar to serve as United States Representative to the Fifty-fourth session of the General Assembly of the United Nations.
All these donars are bought and paid for buy Clinton.. You see what lobbying does!!! Look them all up!!!!
Posted by: Rick | Mar 27, 2008 3:47:33 PM
One more stupid comment like being shot at in Bosnia and Hillary is toast.
Posted by: george | Mar 27, 2008 3:42:56 PM
to Joe:
And what would you call the cabal of evangelical television ministers with a long history of damning America who have direct access to the White House now?
Posted by: Kevin | Mar 27, 2008 3:41:56 PM
clarence avant key roles in President Clinton's presidential campaigns and currently serves as Resident Jamaican Trade Counsel....HMMMM More and better appointments!!!!
SHOW YOUR TAXES CLINTONS ALL 8 YEARS
Posted by: Rick | Mar 27, 2008 3:40:24 PM
Anyone who thinks that Hillary cares about them, their children, their families or this country hasn't been paying attention. This is all about winning for Hillary. Winning a job she thought was hers. She wants to win by any mans necessary. We are gong to be bombarded with Rev. wright so we won't pay attention to her Bosnia lies, her NAFTA lies, her Ireland Peace Treaty lies, on and on and on. Now they are Blackmailing and threatening their donars making them write to Nancy Pelosi. Or I just we are just supposed to believe that all these fat cats had this idea all at once on their own, yea right. The Clintons are poison for the Democratic Party!
Posted by: julescator | Mar 27, 2008 3:38:13 PM
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