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The problem is that religion is much too often used to divide and build hate, and this is misuse and abuse. People should not tolerate it. Falwell also blames the US for AIDS and various preachers have blamed 9/11 on the presence of homosexuals in America, abortion, etc. etc.

Every now and then the Left and the Right reach back so far in their confused logic that they end up holding hands. This is one of those times and can ultimately help both the Right and the Left to wake up by showing all of us how important it is that religion completely avoid slander.

Gandhi advocates separating the person from their deeds and views all people as fundamentally oriented toward goodness. He also advocates a stance of complete personal responsibilty toward the happiness of others—all others. This is a stance that can work. He based his efforts for justice entirely on it. Every time this is used truly great results occur. It's just extremely difficult to sustain.

It is easier to hurl a mountain into aeons of dust than it is to achieve a transformation of the human heart. Nonetheless this transformation is what we must accomplish. And we must do it ourselves—not by relying on demagogue leaders, elected or otherwise.

Judgment is one degree removed from the 5 senses—a necessary aspect of life but often over-trusted, particarly when aimed toward other human beings. Analytical ability and spiritual awareness are more valuable. And even more valuable yet is a sincere desire for, and actions taken on behalf of, the happiness of others.

The problem is that religion is much too often used to divide and build hate, and this is misuse and abuse. People should not tolerate it. Falwell also blames the US for AIDS and various preachers have blamed 9/11 on the presence of homosexuals in America, abortion, etc. etc.

Every now and then the Left and the Right reach back so far in their confused logic that they end up holding hands. This is one of those times and can ultimately help both the Right and the Left to wake up by showing all of us how important it is that religion completely avoid slander.

Gandhi advocates separating the person from their deeds and views all people as fundamentally oriented toward goodness. He also advocates a stance of complete personal responsibilty toward the happiness of others—all others. This is a stance that can work. He based his efforts for justice entirely on it. Every time this is used truly great results occur. It's just extremely difficult to sustain.

It is easier to hurl a mountain into aeons of dust than it is to achieve a transformation of the human heart. Nonetheless this transformation is what we must accomplish. And we must do it ourselves—not by relying on demagogue leaders, elected or otherwise.

Judgment is one degree removed from the 5 senses—a necessary aspect of life but often over-trusted, particarly when aimed toward other human beings. Analytical ability and spiritual awareness are more valuable. And even more valuable yet is a sincere desire for, and actions taken on behalf of, the happiness of others.

Where is Condoleeza Rice?

Can we agree the reason behind Obama taking the subject of race and developed it into a mayor speech was because he got caught? Otherwise this great speech would never occurred. He first denied knowing of Wright's rhetoric. When he got caught then he gave this speech, but really, what else could he do? But that’s fine; all politicians lie. What I object about Obama is that he allowed his daughters to witness Wright's demagogue thus perpetuating the cycle, diminishing the very post-racial America he is trying to achieve. That is a huge lack of judgment.

The media give out information and the people have the right to accept or reject that information.

THANKS FOR REALITY T.V. THE PEOPLE KNOW THE THOUGHTS OF THE MEDIA.

What sheep the American public are! Do you actually think that these are new revelations? Clinton has been waiting to release these tapes to the media and used Ferraro to give her an excuse to release them. Why do you think she will not release her tax returns? When the media finds out she took millions in kickbacks then you will swing back to Obama's camp. Media controls everything judgment you make. Sheep!

If he doesn’t know what Wright believed and stands for the last 20 years, then he is a dumb head and can’t qualify to be an US President. If he knows and ignores it, then he is one of the anti Americans and live in United State and has very HIGH POWER unfortunately. Either case, he should drop the race and quit the Senate. No matter what he says and explains today, it was 20 years late.

For all those talking about it all starting in Iowa and people spoke in Iowa about wanting Obama - Well, that was BEFORE they knew about his friendship with Mr. Wright. I've spoken to tons of people who want their votes back. Obama is a liar and a politician just trying to spin his racist radical beliefs to win the nomination/presidency. I don't feel like I even want to watch his upcoming speech. I cannot believe him anymore. He is tarnished in my book. I can forgive him but that does not mean I will vote for him to hold the highest power in the world.

Everything is falling into place now, his not wearing the Flag, not pledging alliegence, his wife's comment about not being proud of America!

Obama needs to drop out NOW!! not give another lying speech!! Everybody knows what racism is, it seems that he does not! since he says he did not realize Wright's comment were that. So Obama do not preach to us!!

The mask has been removed!

If he doesn’t know what Wright believes and stands for the last 20 years, then he is a dumb head and can’t qualify to be an US President. If he know and ignore it, then he is one of the anti Americans and live in United State unfortunately. Either case, he should drop the race and quit the Senate.

Geraldine Ferraro is right. She should feel vindicated.

Barack OBAMA is a big fraud, and those who voted for him were duped by his sweet (but empty) words.

and for those people who say this isnt about race, why do you thing Oprah went out of her way to promote his candidacy? and why do you think 90% of black vote for him?

Wake up America. You might have a Manchurian candidate for a President. He'd be worse than W.

United States of America...is that how BHO plans to honor support her, by not wearing a flag, or covering his heart during the Star Spangled Banner?
If you want to throw mud, like everyone seems so eager to do with Hillary from her past, lets go to BHO,s history with drugs and alchol.
To all, seen the polls ot of Pennsylvania today? Hillary is on a role, and is a solid win over Mccain.
Lastly, get out your bibles and sunday best, I am sure BHO will be turning his speech into a chorus of "amens" in the audience...hand picked audience.

I find it very fascinating that the video clips of the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Jr. have generated such a huge discussion all over the Internet. Here is one individual preaching before his congregation of 8,000 to 10,000 members. Yet where is the discussion of the hundreds if not thousands of professors in our universities and colleges that spread similar hate-speech in their classrooms all across America?

JoAnna, I certainly appreciate and understand your viewpoint. There is one area, however, in which there seems to be a bit of a disconnect. This is not a criticism. I am just curious. You wrote: "Not one person has ever been able to answer my question as to how Obama is going to pay for any of his ideas,..." Yet you support Sen. Clinton who once stated (I believe it was in October 2007): "I have a million ideas. The country can't afford them all."

DCVoter, Catherine and all Hillary lovers, this is not Obama's position, this is not Obama's idea and this is not Obama's view of race and the world. Obama will win the primaries and win the White House. Hilary has no idea about economy or national security, she is divisive and old politics. From inevitable to underdog, she has gone down in history as the most incompetant candidate in terms of management style. Where are the tax returns?????????????

IS HILLARY PERFECT? NO
IS OBAMA PERFECT? NO
IS McCAIN PERFECT? NO

Economic change
Jobs prosperity
Trade talks
End this war
Gas
Oil

What is real reporting? Is this a way to control others?

Who is Stanley Dunham?
Who is Madelyn Dunham?

What is white and what is black?

What is human?

What is the family resemblance?

Will third culture people help to bring about economic change? (not third world)
Most third culture people are ready for the jobs of the future are you?

Can third culture People put an end to this war?

In the eighteen hundreds and before no one could justify racism.

No one Can justify racism today.

This is not about white or black. This is about human needs of America.

People in Iowa voted against the past.
We are a United States of America.

READY FOR CHANGE

Obama's speech is happening because of one thing only - the truth about his pastor and his church, the truth that Obama has been trying to suppress since before the campaign started, has been exposed. Thankfully, some real reporting has started and his free pass days are over. His speech, just as his panicked rush of interviews last Friday, is a reaction to his failed attempt to keep the ugly racist and anti-American underbelly of people who he has been extremely close to for over 20 years (8,000 church members go a long way in a state senatorial district election) under wraps has failed. If the speech was so important, why did it take days of playing his pastor's hateful rants on TV to get him to give it? It's political desperation as he sees his image begin to crumble as he finds himself running against two strong candidates who never give up and are unwavering in their love for country and disdain for racism. His candidacy is based on transcending these race issues and on being different and transparent. Yet he has attempted to hide this from us and has (badly) attempted to brush it away as and then to talk his way out of it. He's failed us and himself at every turn.

He's just another highly ambitious politician who's quite good at reading a scripted speech. No doubt, some adoring admirers will be bamboozled by yet another speech from the speech candidate.

Let's see him answer questions.

I listened to Rev. Dr. Calvin Butts, III an Abyssinian Baptist minister say that when referring to Obama’s minister that "black people know how to decipher between radical rhetoric and what is practical application of love from God to everybody." Now, I have been a Christian a lot of years and I have never heard a white or a black minister and I have been to many black church’s...I have never heard any of them ever spew out hatred towards white people or America.
Church is supposed to not have you feel sorry for yourself, or get you angry about past hurts, and it is not about anything other than "who Jesus is and how we need to make Him our point of reference as to how we need to behave."
Yet the blacks are saying that it is a black thing and they talk like that because we made them slaves at one time. Well I have been to many synagogues and worshipped with Jews and they were far more persecuted than blacks were, not to minimize what blacks went through, only that I never heard any Jews spewing hatred about anything, only worship towards God.
Now, the blacks are trying to justify the racist behavior of who Obamas pastor and friend really is. Before this came out about his pastor he praised him. Now I don't believe for one minute that Obama never knew of or heard him talk like this...which means he agrees with it or he would have stopped going there a long time ago and not just when he got political heat from it. He only stopped going when it became a problem for his campaign. Now, obama denies knowing anything only he lied. Because he said on national television that his pastor had told him that it might become a problem for him if he did not distance himself from his pastor some day and obama agreed with him.
I told you all along. He is a con artist. I am tired of blacks making excuses and lying for him just so he will get elected because he is black. If Hillary had gone to a church that talked about whites getting beaten up by blacks or blacks being the leading cause of murders and that is why so many blacks are in jail, she would have been called a racist. See there is a double standard that blacks have set up. We can't call them hoes, but they can call themselves that. We can't say anything that they think is a racist remark but they can call us crackers or talk about how we oppressed them. I for one am sick of it. I have always defended blacks, loved them, hung out with them, but I am sick now of the double standard they are imposing on whites.
I tell you this that if Hillary does not win the nomination with the vote so close than the Democratic party will be broken. The Democrats will loose many voters. Hillary will take Obama on as Vice President, but he won't do the same for her. There will be too many hurt feelings. In spite of what has taken place recently, if Obama does win, I will no longer be a Democrat either.
Not one person has ever been able to answer my question as to how Obama is going to pay for any of his ideas, or what plans he will implement to bring about his plans.
For someone who says he wants to bring about change and unite the parties together, well, he has done nothing but pull everyone a part. First telling everyone in Congress that they are the old way of doing things and that they need to leave is not exactly bringing people together. Talk is cheap!! The bible says you will know the tree by its fruit. Look at obamas fruit...who he hangs out with, who he worships with, it is the opposite of what he says. He is double minded, and a double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

Racism has been spoken in pastors sermons to several Presidents, President hopeful, Congress and Senators for years. Racism has been around before the eighteen hundreds. It still exist today. Anyone can change from racism of the eighteen hundreds. Racism doesn't have a skin color. Little girls burned outside a church in Alabama because of racism. Today civil rights is not accepted in some churches because of racism.

People are ready for change, regardless of anger, and racism.

IOWA VOTED FOR CHANGE

EXCELLENT JUDGMENT

We do not have the power to change others. We have the power to control what we say about others.
Americans need economic Change.
America need to produce job prosperity.
America need to improve trade agreements.
Good judgment did not say yes to this war.

America is for change.

(Kyle-Anne Shiver is a contributor to American Thinkers)

"Senator Obama's insistence that he shouldn't be held accountable for a 20-year, close association with Jeremiah Wright because he was never actually there to hear a single snippet of anti-American, racist diatribe is beginning to look a lot like all those "present" votes in the Illinois legislature. He seems to be saying he wants to have his cake and eat it too. And all I can say is if Barack Obama can't stand the heat of personal scrutiny, he really ought to do us all a favor and get out of the kitchen."

Every Dem should read, doesn't matter which camp you come from.

The way some Obama supporters feeling deceived about their leader credibility reminds Forrest Gump movie.

Forrest Gump: My momma always said, "Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."

Drill Sergeant: "Gump! What's your sole purpose in this army?"

Forrest Gump: "To do whatever you tell me, drill sergeant! "

Drill Sergeant: "God da** it, Gump! You're a god da** genius! This is the most outstanding answer I have ever heard.".

Are his supporters going to be happy with Obama Just telling them what they want to hear?

Guilt by association? ABSOLUTELY! We are taught endlessly not to run with the wrong crowd.

So we have Obama who chose to be closely aligned with a screaming, anti-American bigot preacher for 20+ years, and Hillary who never had enough sense to get rid of a cheating, lying, criminal husband. The dems have really frosted the political cookie for us this time. Are these the best decision-makers they have to offer?

I supported Obama before it was popular to. I felt hope for the first time in years. I felt the "change wave" crossing the nation and I was elated.

Now I feel so angry and let down. One reason why I liked Obama is that he seemd above the "fray." I never believed he would be caught is such a HUGE lie.

I will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination and I pray now that Hillary does, but I don't think she can.

Obama is a liar. He raised his children around Wright and his church. I can't imagine raising children where they could be influenced by such an evil, hateful man who hates our country. I don't know how Obama can look at the cameras and say that he was ignorant for 20 YEARS. If he is that dumb, I don't want him to be my President anyway because he can't read people or their motives. Either way, he has lost my passionate support. I am the "other" half of his race that he never talks about.

Now I truly believe that Obama must be a racist on some level, if not a huge level.

I was tearing when Speaker Pelosi ascendent to her speakership but she's also same at any politician does. She should be backing Hillary for making history and proud instead fooling around might be losing her Majority because alot of RedStates (small) none blue color for Dem voted for Obama. That is really Pissed me.

Notice To Obama's supporter in RED State GOD DAMN AMERICA will come and GET YOUR JOB

WatchOut those SuperD in Red State or District who backed Obama, Mr Wright will come and haunt You ALIVE.

I AM STILL CONFUSED???????

So, it's okay to accept what Rev. Wright has said because of all the turmoil and racial injustice that he has had to live through?

So, is it okay for me to start screaming racial slurs because of the rape, robbery, car-jacking, purse snataching and murder that my family and friends have been through at the hands of young black men? Okay! I mean, if that is now socially acceptable!!!

When the reporters interviewed members of the congregation of Obama's church they were ACCEPTING of his racial, anti-white, anti-American statements. How can Obama still justify being a member of this church? HE CAN'T!!!
That's the CRUX of it! He (Obama), Wright and the members of this church are pissed that "whitey" feels like they can tell him what to do!!!
REVERSE THIS SITUATION: Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be marching, boycotting and calling upon the black community to do more than just boycott Wal-Mart.
I DON'T CARE IF THESE WERE JUST BLURBS OF HIS SERMON---HE STILL SAID THEM!!!

Racism has been around before the eighteen hundreds.
What is the History of racism in the Church?
What is the History of racism In our American Government?
Who is G. Wallace ? Our American government is not responsible for G. Wallace, however, we can learn form his experience.
Some people hate people for no reason.
America had racism in the past.
America has racism in the present.
We have the power to change racism in the future.

IOWA VOTED FOR CHANGE

EXCELLENT JUDGMENT AGAIN

No person has ownership to words of change.

Goodbye Obama!look all the ratings his falling. I'd like to meet Mr.Wright to personally thanks for the falling of Mr.Obama. Go Hillary!!!

It just amazes me how unrepented White America is. Why can't people acknowledge and accept the dark side of America, along with the good?

From what I've heard, Wright talks about the nuking of civilians in Japan. He talks about how America is controlled by rich whites. And he talks about how Hillary hasn't experienced what blacks have experienced. And Wright talks about the absolute injustice that's built into Americas criminal justice system.

Anyone who thought racism was dead in America, only needs to observe the reaction to Rev. Wright for a reality check.

Wright's comments to Obama only prove that, despite Obama's current protests of innocence, he was fully aware of Wright's penchance for saying inflammatory stuff. Obama will have to stop lying about not agreeing and supporting Wright's racist views for the last 20 years.

Oprah left Wrights church in the early 80's, after only two years. She knew Wright was poison, but Mr. smarty pants, Mr. wise judgment Obama stayed for TWENTY YEARS!!! Those who watch Obama speech on Tuesday, and are re-bamboozled by his deceiving words, have to be total zombies.

dk, LOVE the audacity of deceit title. would make a great website name.

Audacity of Deceit.

marie, excellent analysis, thanks! btw, to you and all the others who are interested in intelligent discourse, check out savagepolitics website (might want to write it down - they delete messages with this info pretty quickly). we have some lively conversations over there, plus there are some outstanding articles, on a wide range of subjects (mostly election at the moment, but other stuff too).

Stock_craft-Somehow I don't think the Obama supporters understand the true extent of the damage this has done to Obama. And by extension the democratic party should Obama go on to win based on previous delegates.

People do make mistake and most mistake can be corrected or it can correct itself but this one never and never can. I will never vote for Obama even if Dem has Obama/Clinton ticket and will consider 3 times before I cast Clinton/Obama ballot also.

Marie-Well, I guess we all better prepare ourselves for Obama's speech on race relations tomorrow. Yet, I find myself unable to believe him no matter what he may say. Twenty years of NOT speaking up before he is being forced to try and explain it all away is more troubling days later for me than when it first broke in the news. It only seems to grow stronger inside my mind. How about you?

Dogsoldier, you are so right!!

Let me post here a comment on the LaTimes blog; I found it very interesting:

This, too, is part of the script. Remember first that Gerry Ferraro is no racist. Never has been, never will be. She is a political pro (like Ted Kennedy) who sees Sen. Obama, for what he is. A very lucky young man with a spectacular way with words who has been "packaged" for this "moment,"starting with his being fed others legislation for his own as an Illinois Senator, his speech at the 2004 convention, and his support from Ted Kennedy. By his own admission, this "lucky winner" of the DNC first black man as president lottery, has been running for president as soon as he entered the U.S. Senate, running so hard that he can't even hold a subcommittee hearing. And he's lucky to be black because it gives him plenty of built in teflon ... the media is reluctant to dig and vet this candidate for fear of being called "racist." He has carried entire states with a solid black vote, taken "proportionally allocated delegates" with a solid black vote, and will have yet another "moment" at the DNC Convention in Denver, which is conveniently being run by a black evangelical preacher. Hollywood could not have done better. Scripted to perfection. If he hits a few snags, he gives explanations (in this case Wright/Rezko) on a Friday evening low news cycle and then gets up on Saturday to invoke RFK and cry out for unity. While you conveniently file Wright/Rezko away, you hear the sweet talkin' guy and your mind wanders. Hoodwinked. Bamboozled. Since our guy repeatedly, conveniently, missed all these nasty sermons, maybe he was given a "heads up" that the sermon was going to heat up and that he should be a no show. That explanation is as good as any other. Quick, time to invoke RFK again. He's been dead these 40 years and you can trash him too.

Posted by: Mandelay | March 16, 2008 at 05:29 PM

This is from a poster named Cindy. I agree with her.
Has racism been a terrible scar on this country's past? Of course. No one in their right mind can deny that. But picking at the wound never allows it to heal. It's been 40 years since Dr. King was murdered. Did he die so that people could wrap themselves up in the world of past hurts rather than trying to make his dream a reality? Until we as a country decide that we are ready to heal, we never will. That goes for all races.

I think the most disheartening thing about all this is that just when we think we as a society are making progress, we find out that some of those we saw as our partners in moving forward are actually moving in reverse.

I feel a great deal of sorrow for my fellow Democrats who voted for Obama thinking that he was going to move this country forward. He chose to associate with Rev. Wright for 20 years, he chose to view him as a mentor and spiritual advisor, and he chose to put him on his campaign up until only a couple of days ago. Hillary didn't make that happen. The media didn't make that happen. The Republicans didn't make that happen. Obama did.

I don’t care what pastor of the Church which Obama is going said because the freedom of speech. What I care is the pastor follower, Mr. Obama, doesn’t distant himself from Wright until the news is leak out. Sorry, if you don’t show your patriot to America how can you be the US President? Don’t tell me you never hear about the Wright story because you go to that Church for 20 years and Mr. Wright is in your campaign.

kravitz, regarding your Obama painting. You paint the prettiest picture, but you forgot to mention few facts:

1. Obama went to a Prestige Private School in his earlier years paid for by his maternal grandparents with whom he lived. After attending an Indonesian Muslim school for a while.
2. His mother was living with his stepfather in Indonesia, where he was a manager something to do with... Oil.
3. Obama's father went to Harvard. Which made Obama a legacy. Not hard to get in then.
4. Obama only worked with African_Americans during his law practice.
5. Most people who share the same viewpoints: attend the same church for 20 years, get married in that church, and bring their children to that church to share those same viewpoints.
6. Admitted that the title of his last book "Audacity of Hope" actually came from a Rev. Jemery Wright sermon.

What again are Obama’s redeeming qualities, to become President of the United States?
Oh, that’s right he is good at: “I did…….Just Kidding! I just borrowed it. Or, I brought this legislation…. You want to know about it …. Well, you see… .. umm, well huh,…. couldn’t …… yes we can. God bless for this nice weather.”
I remember, Obama is GREAT AT: THEY DON’T PLAY FAIR..... FOUL.

Sorry, I forgot.

DRH said:

"Um, none of this is news. It is public knowledge that has already been addressed by Obama. So, if all this outrage is real and you people can really be so easily and decisively persuaded by specious arguments based strongly on racial prejudice (against blacks) -- and by repeated plays of cable "news" soundbites -- then I ask you, why should anyone take your opinion seriously? Also, why do you take yourselves so seriously?"

Why should you take us seriously? Because we are VOTERS. Why do we take ourselves so seriously? Because we are VOTERS.

Take a look at the many hundreds of posts on Oprah.com. They are exactly the same tenor that you find here.

People are VERY angry. They feel hoodwinked by Obama, and not in a nice way.

Babs, maybe Rev Wright is in rehab. Now we are supposed to understand that this is the way all black ministers preach. It is an insult to churches everywhere. It is outrageous. Obama went to this church so he could be accepted by the black community in Chicago because he had big dreams for a career in politics. So he had to prove what a black man he was. Now he is trying to get away from his church of 20 years because it doesn't fit his new "image" of the everyman. What a complete phony. And he lies so smoothly it is scary. He never knew, never heard, had no idea. GIVE ME A BREAK!

DC VOTER: Well, I definitely think she will have a very strong showing. They haven't released many polls for this week, but last week, Survey USA (3/11)had Hillary Clinton up by 19 points in PA.

FL will be settled in the courts or a committee of the DNC.

MI is weighing a new primary.

The voters opinions have shifted to Clinton.

Polls put Clinton as the favorite over McCain if she wins the nom.

The economy has become a top issue again.

It seems Clinton has gained more confidence from the military than McCain so his visit to Iraq has been deemed pivotal for him.

Obama is in deep credibility trouble.

All over the course of 4 days. What will it be like next week?

Emily I agree a strong showing in PA would be very good for her argument (which I agree with).

Not surprising. Other absentees from the news are Michelle, Kennedy, Kerry, Edwards, Richardson, Biden, Gore... hmm

Reverend Wright has left the country and is currently in Africa.

mia, you posted the same thing twice?
so they retired rev. wright? whats next? will we hear rev wright has had break down and is in therapy!! lol who knows how bad they want obama ,in we may see some crazy stuff in the next few days. I'm waiting on Farrakhan to speak out and say something
about the media attacking a black man or something along those lines. Voters just remember President of the United States is a powerful position to put someone in. we better be right and not just dreaming or in [united america]la la land
being white could be a real problem if vengeace and hatred comes calling

I would like to see Obama lose in the PA primary by at least 30 points! Another big state he can't win. His speech tomorrow won't help him a bit.

Aye! I will have a green margarita and join you if you put green food colorin in yer beer LOL

Um, none of this is news. It is public knowledge that has already been addressed by Obama. So, if all this outrage is real and you people can really be so easily and decisively persuaded by specious arguments based strongly on racial prejudice (against blacks) -- and by repeated plays of cable "news" soundbites -- then I ask you, why should anyone take your opinion seriously? Also, why do you take yourselves so seriously?

DCVoter,

It's St's P" day. Let's go have a brewski together? What say you?

He said that he would have left the church if he had heard those words repeated. Doesn't that mean that he heard those words in the first place and that he would leave if he heard them again?

Jackie, you wrote: "They (Bill & Hillary Clinton) did nothing illegal...except Bill lied about his sex life and he was under oath at the time."

Regarding Bill, rape and sexual assault are not legal. Unfortunately the allegations remain just allegations, since apparently the statue of limitations have passed on most if not all these cases.

Regarding Hillary, Kenneth Starr's Whitewater investigation turned up some interesting stuff, but since they were beyond the scope of his investigation they were never pursued. Many of the allegations are on the internet. Rest assured that should Hillary somehow pull out the nomination, these allegations will see the light of day. And then there is the lawsuit filed by Peter Paul. The news media refuses to mention this case. But it has the potential to bring felony charges against Hillary Clinton for violating election laws during her 2000 campaign for the Senate.

Oh great another speech.

SadState - we pick up where Clinton has always been. Bill has not stopped his work on civil and human rights. Clinton has not lost her support within the party and I believe she will work to unite the races again. The republicans have worked hard to divide the dems into Identity voters for years. Obama's strategy was unfortunately ill-advised to solidify the black vote and expand the electorate with young Independents. These are not the party... Michelle began the division with her Black America will wake up and her sexism against Clinton. If Clinton gets the nom, I believe she will unite the party based on the issues that matter to all Americans including the black voters. A special division in her administration to open the dialogue would be key.

Alright,

That's it. I just put my deepest darkest racial sleeves on the line and all I get is more hatred? No dialouge? Natha, Nothing, No Way Jose?

Well all I have to say is that's "productive".

I will surely join the Church that has 8000 plus church goers and good Xtians. I can live with Rev. Wright's comments...have heard worse from my Catholic church that tells me for example, "Wearing a Condom is Mortal Sin". Who cares...Economy and Iraq war sucks, and here we are beating the bush about some pastors crazy sound bites...Obama should stand and fight this controversy...He will make an excellent President.

What pastor Wright said is terrible. But look at the congregation. They are waving their arms, clapping, screaming yes yes yes, high fiving. This is the community to which he belongs. People that cheer racist bigoted commentary.This is his church community. So give him the benefit of the doubt (big Benefit) tht he didn't hear any of these sermons. That he was never aware of any of this hate speech. Well what were these cheering congregants talking about all of the time? How much they love white people? How much they love America? Stop the hypocrisy. I think we all know what these Afrocentrist type churches are all about. That is why they honored Farrakan. They think alike. They hate white America. They blame white America for all of their problems. Then throw Jews, and Hispanics in there who they now hate as well. Obama will never be elected. It will be the biggest landslide since Reagan. The Dems never run out of ways to lose.

my question to you all is this=
If sen obama thinks he can unite the races of america and is using that in his speeches as his big trump card
what track record does he have to show for it?
certainly he hasnt been able to do it, or anything close ,in the church he has attended for 20 years!
what makes anyone believe he will do anything with it in the presidential seat??
I am pretty disappointed in this whole thing and as a poor white girl, I havent exactly had anything handed to me as a privileged so called "whitie".
I was hopeing sen obama had something new to offer but facts are he doesnt. and no matter what some say about it [not being obamas word but rev wrights]
how many of you hang around with people that have views you are vehemently against?? my point exactly

Mara: Did you actually see Rev. Wright's racist, hate-filled, anti-American rantings? They have been showing them all over the news. If you saw these, do you really think Barack Obama did not know about them? And did not know about his "spiritual mentor's" messages.

I think Barack Obama should have definitely left this church. Many years ago. Maybe never even should have joined in the first place. These teachings will never unify the country but only divide it. I really believe you need to think this issue through and stop defending him. This issue goes to his judgment, character and integrity.

DCVoter,

We can stop this lunicy. How bout it BRO? As John Kerry would say..."shall we"?????

DCVoter, did you announce next to your name that you wear skirts..? Don't whine all the time, just like Hillary. If you cant take the heat, get lost...And meet me in Ohio!!!

Obama has been groomed to be president.

His friends, al Sharpton, jessie Jackson, Rev. Wright all have been working years on him. oops forgot Rezko.

He will be the puppet, the front man, like bush is. The power will reek beneath.

He will be used to sale Americans anything.

His speaking abilities with the marketing skills his high price crew has.

The power who wants him in has spent some big bucks to do it.

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s pastor for the last 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago’s south side, has a long history of what even Obama’s campaign aides concede is “inflammatory rhetoric,” including the assertion that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks with its own “terrorism.”

In a campaign appearance earlier this month, Sen. Obama said, “I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial.” He said Rev. Wright “is like an old uncle who says things I don’t always agree with,” telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family.

Pete a real man is not sexist or threatened by women. I hope you grow into one someday.

Jackie - I used to think Obama had a future but after seeing the red flags that have come from his association with TUCC and Farrakhan, not anymore. The bigger picture combined with Farrakhan's interview that included him saying Obama "has been groomed" clinched it for me. We cannot make the mistakes of the past and dismiss red flags however outrageous they may seem. The vetting must continue so that we dont make the mistake Germany made by electing an unvetted candidate who can mesmerize with words.

Jackie, you make a hard sell for Hillary. If, after all these 35 yrs of her cooked up experience, still all she gets is a solid 55+ negative rating at all the time, then she cannot win against Republicans. They are afraid of him, they voted in Ohio, Texas in large numbers for Hillary. They want Hillary against McCain,

It's 3am and Barack is calling Deval to borrow another speach.

DCVoter...

Thanks for reading the post. Where do we go from here?

Read the entire book, and you will know that you will never in your life be as open as that man...It takes guts to write an auto-bio. Will you? Whatever a white person, or a person of color felt or heard, and lived with, what matters is what that person is NOW. Otherwise, you will not forgive your own mother and father...We are human beings, we have weaknesses...Nit-picking and going after destroying that person may be the brutal style of the far right or far-left. But we cannot expect that a good person running for President has to be 100% correct at all times. He may have his blemishes...Obama has rejected the pastor's comments...Obama does not promote racism. It is sufficient for me, for any right minded, and God-fearing person.

Here's the problem....The Democrats are pretty divided to start with on these 2 candidates. Obama is definitely losing ground....believe it or not it's true.

So if you throw the "baby out with the bathwater" and insist on Obama as the nominee you get McCain as the next president.

The truth is that the Clinton's have been smeared for years by the same people that used the Kerry swiftboat tactics..

Despite this they have both done incredible things for this country.
Hillary's resume is in