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Marianne Pepitone (comment near very top):

Only way fat cats can do whatever they want done is if apathetic people like you let them walk all over you.

The naivete of far left liberals at MoveOn.org is breathtaking. They say they are going to obviate the Democratic fat cats by out-raising money themselves. How stupid! By alienating those fat cats, where do MoveOn.org radicals think that money from those fat cats are going to go? To the Republicans! It is this kind of leftist hubris that is going to sink Obama candidacy in the end.

The big donors don't give a hoot about moveon.org. They will do what they want regardless of what Pelosi says. And I agree with them. They have the right to choose the nominee. Do we want a president in the white house that can't make decisions? And endorsements doesn't mean the voters are going to listen to them. I believe Hillary will capture PA and maybe KY and IN. Obama will capture NC because of the black vote and the white youth vote. Obama can campaign in PA all he wants but she has a sixteen point lead right now and she has the endorsement of the Governor and two others. It took Bill Clinton to clean up the mess in the white house when he was president and it will take Hillary to clean it up again. Obama wouldn't know what to do first. Maybe Patrick would give him a hand since he gave him his speech.

Tom: The letter was the right thing to do to Nancy Pelosi. She should take care of matters the right way like a professional would do. And loud mouth Howard Dean should step aside. He is the cause of the DNC falling apart. Pelosi is afraid of Hillary becoming president because Hillary would have a higher position than her and she doesn't want that. Dean is an Obama supporter that's why he doesn't want MI and FL to seat their delegates because she would be ahead of Obama. Should she drop out. Heck no!! Obama cannot win those states in a general election because he would have won them instead of her. They do not want him as the nominee or they would have voted for him.

Crazy stuff. Donkey Superdelegates getting indicted right and left -- Spitzer, Puerto Rico’s Gov., Detroit’s Mayor . . . At this rate, some time before the actual convention ol’ Dean’s gonna have to shift his focus from worrying about squabbling between the two nominee camps to worrying about whether he’ll be able to assemble an actual quorum of delegates. Or maybe they can create a new area on the convention floor, populated by marshals watching over cuffed & shackled guys in orange jump suits. “Mr. Chairman, the incarcerated delegates proudly representing the people of the great state of Attica cast their seventy six electoral votes for . . . _____________. Free Mumia! Wooo Hoooo!”

Mac: Pelosi doesn't care about the Italian's she is only interested in herself and what people can do for her. Pelosi is a cut throat like Dean and Reid. Hillary should not drop out of the race there are still states to campaign in and the superdelegates should have a say so. Just because Obama won the popular vote and is ahead in delegates does not mean he is the best candidate to run the country. The superdelegates have the right to choose who they think is the best. And I don't believe Obama can run this country without extensive help from others. After all he uses other president's speeches and he used the word hope from RFK speech when he was campaigning for president. He is hopeless.

Tina D. You are so right. And Wright would be in that white house just like Ayers and Farrakhan. Of course Rezko would probably be in jail. I wonder why Obama wasn't questioned? What are the courts hiding from the public? Every time I turn on CNN or MSNBC I see Obama's face. They promoted him to no extent but not McCain or Hillary. I see now Obama as William Daley as a co-chairman of his campaign. His father must be turning over in his grave because he would be against an Obama endorsement over Hillary. That's the way it was with Daley, Sr. Richard Daley endorsed Obama because of the black vote should he run again. Daley, Sr. wouldn't care.

I hear the Gov. of Puerto Rico has been indicted and he is a superdelegate supporting Obama. What else is new. Wasn't Obama an attorney for a crooked businessman? One knows another. And didn't Obama wheel and deal while he was attorney. Rezko gave Obama 350,000 to purchase a house on the Southside and gave his campaign 250,000 which Obama still has 100,000 of that money. Now Obama has turned his back on Rezko. That's what friends are for?

Tim sorry I did not see your response to my first comment.

Did you know that Hillary did NoT institute the superdelegate system, in the late 70's or early 80's , so that when she eventually run for president she could use it to her advantage.

This was done by the leadership of the democratic party to deal with situations where candidates ARE EVEN or NO ONE has the recommended majority.

Can Barack get the required majority???? No, of course NOT.
Can Hillary get it either ...No..No..

So who are we going to call to solve this, but the superdelegates or any other system or mechanism inherent in the Democratic Party's system of regulations for choosing a candidate where there is deadlock.

Despite the fact that Obama's campaign has made Hillary THE WONDER WOMAN OF AMERICAN POLITICS'she who cannot be destroyed or defeated' She did not make the rules for unlocking a deadlock.

Hillary is going on and must go on for the sake of the democratic party, the education of American middle and working class masses and for herself and self esteem. 'Never stop playing until you hear the buzzer sound'....You have heard that before...

That's the kind of President America NEEDS today....and for the next four years....Don't you think?

Hey Tim ...
How do you think Obama , my bro. is getting all this financial support?
Do you think Barack is running a community or grassroots organisation?

This is a fullscale corporation with FATCATS.. waiting to cash in just like any other successful campaign. You don't believe me ...just move the curtain a little bit and you will see standing in the corner, Billionaire John Kerry....hmmm..endorsement for free you think.?...E
verybody has their fatcats.

"There is little difference between the two candidates in regards to positions so why would they get involved in this" - alpaig 5:18:21 PM

alpaig, Do you ever consider the honest and integrity as factors for supporting a candidate? Hillary is indebted to these fat cats and special interests, Obama is not because they can not buy him. Beside, does anyone know what Hillary Clinton is hiding in tax return?

Andy 5:07:30 PM, Just like your candidate you to turn facts upside down.

"And also remember that pledged delegates in most states are not pledged" - Hillary Clinton -

Since when was Hillary's intension to override the will of the voter a myth?

I agree with Idaho Potato.

The Clintons disappoint. How could their donors tell the rest of the Democratic party to get behind their candidate or else they'd pull the resources that support the party? It defies belief that a special interest would take it this far when millions of Democrats are watching and wondering what else do they demand for all their big bucks. Hillary knew in advance that Nancy was going to be blackmailed and didn't do anything to stop it.

It was under the Clintons that the Democrats lost their majority status in the Congress. If this is what they were doing then, NO WONDER more legislation did not pass in 1993 and 1994.

Then 1 out of 5 Democrats say they are going to take their votes to Republicans after we have suffered as a nation under Bush Cheney. What does the Democratic party stand for exactly?

It sucks. If these are our true colors, it is a wonder how we ever change anything in Washington.

I guess Nancy Pelosi isn't bothered at all by being called garlic nose or blamed for crucifying Jesus by Obama's favorite uncle pastor.

vote4thebest- You said it with class. I hope Pelosi gets voted out of being House speaker, she's a nutcase. First she highlight the rules and now she wants to change them. Is she for real?

I agree with Idaho Potato. I was so disappointed with both Hillary and Bill. I thought they had to get crazy to deal with the Republican attack machine. Democrats should not fight like Republicans with each other.

Their constant drumbeat when they attack around the facts, claim to have support they don't, or send the ragin' Cajun after Bill Richardson...I feel like I was standing by a bunch of craven self interest hacks from 1992 to 2000. At some point Democrats have to pull together even when we want to tar and feather the other side.

1 out 5 people have taken this so seriously that the Democratic candidate will lose the disenchanted in the fall. How can that be? We have suffered under Cheney Bush for 8 years. You remember Gore's Willie Horton playing against Dukakis by George H.W. Bush. What kinds of attacks will the Democratic candidate have to face because of this primary? It sucks.

A lot of good moveon.org did for Kerry and Dean. They are so 4 years ago. Can you say irrelevant.

This is yet another lie that the Obama supporter are doing. Here is the truth:

1. Neither Obama and Clinton satisfies the required delegates to officially win the nomination under the current rule.

2. Both candidates are making their case using some various methods such as big states, small states, popular votes, pledged or super delegates, etc...

3. Superdelegates are not bound by anything but 'using their independent judgment" to make their choice. That is the current rule.

Pelosi, as a party leader, must show leadership by playing by the rules also. To tell superdelegates that they should not follow the current rule 'of independent judgment' and make their vote an automatic vote tying to the popular vote is changing the rule in the middle of the game. That is called cheating or stealing the nomination!

Clinton's supporters have every right to call Pelosi out for this lack of leadership and underhand tactic.

Let these candidates make their case to everyone, including the super delegates.

Obama and his supporters such as Pelosi or Moveon, have a double standard. They are whining that Clinton is 'stealing' their nomination when it is them who is doing it.

It is this type of behaviors such as Pelosi that will certainly motivate Clinton's supporters to vote for McCain.

Poor Speaker Pelosi can't make either the Obama or the Clinton fat cats happy. They just keep hissing and clawing at one another and at her. I bet Cat in the Hat will join this tale soon to create further mischief and discord . . .

The 'big DCCC donors' believe in entitlement programs. For themselves.

Was the letter clumsy? Of course. But then all the Team Clinton attacks on Obama have been clumsy. Birds of a feather....

@The Commander Guy | Mar 27, 2008 8:32:14 PM:

You are on these blogs almost every day talking about the mathematical improbabilities of a Clinton win.

Why don't you explain for us how Obama wins it mathematically? The truth is you omit that explanation every time because he wins the nomination EXACTLY same way Clinton would win it, despite being up in popular vote, states and pledged delegates.

It's the superdelegates, stupid, who are free to vote their independent judgment (something else that you seem to always conveniently forget to mention). Neither candidate has enough to clinch the nomination and it is STILL mathematically possible for EITHER candidate to get there.

Keep spinning your fuzzy math argument.

Tina D.

It's funny that you say you would hate to see Rev.Wright in the Lincoln Bedroom because those individuals (you know the ones who were either lobbyists or corporate execs whose bbest interests were served by with the Clintons in office) the ones who wrote that letter to Speaker Pelosi ...1 in 4 of them stayed in the Lincoln Bedroom (seriously you can look it up) while Bill was in office.

Those same people who must not have read this (from the Library of Congress):

This is from the Library of Congress... - but it can also be found in "Dictionary of Politics" ---

The purpose of the "Hunt Commission" formed in 1980 -which created today's superdelegate system...was and I quote,

"to streamline the delegate selection process to party conventions and to DEMOCRATIZE the party itself, broadening the base of political participation by increasing input into the process of selecting presidential candidates, to strengthen ACCOUNTABILITY of public officials and strengthen the party itself whose base was weakened by the vigorous activities of the the Republican Party."

Speaker Pelosi's situation is entirely correct... the purpose of changes made to the selection process including superdelegates were in the direct goal of "democratizing the party" and holding public officials "Accountable" (and it references "to the members of the party" later in the section)to the party and therefore it's members/voters.

so really I think this is almost done.

bebop: hillary has 35 years of standing up to special interests? hillary clinton spent 15 years as a corporate attorney for a firm which represented monsanto, walmart and other corporations. her chief advisor is worldwide ceo for burson-marsteller, a gigantic pr firm whose clients include countrywide (as in sub-prime central) and the blackwater private security firm.

BeBop: i do have a problem with liars when they are the president of the united states of america and they are lying to me as an american citizen. especially if they are running for a co-presidency.
(clinton 1/28/98)

I guess Obama's Fat Cats are better than Clinton's Fat Cats. To think I have given to MoveOn. I wonder if I can get a refund? I would send it to Hillary. Just the idea of the Rev. Wright in the Lincoln bedroom makes me sick.

Every time I read comments by Clinton supporters - usually negative and fact-twisting, like their leader - I am motivated. I've never donated to a political campaign in my life before this. I have the Clintonites. Everytime their mudslinging negativity and fact-twisting pisses me off, I just send out another $25 to the Obama Campaign. I used to think the Clintons were misunderstood and that the Republican attack dogs were just rabid. I happily voted for Bill twice! Now I can see that dishonesty is their way of life, and personal ambition comes before all else. It's a let down, but that's life. I'm proud of the way that Obama acts with dignity and respect for all people - even Hillary. That's the kind of America I want to see prevail.

Hey hey Hillary supporters - what does Rasmussen Data say?

Rasmussen Markets data now give Obama a 79.7% chance to win the Democratic nomination while expectations for a Clinton victory are at 19.8%. Market data also suggests that Obama has a 47.8% chance to become the next President. Expectations for McCain to become President are at 39.6% while Clinton’s prospects are at 13.3%.

Boy:

I certainly know how Hillary Clinton feels .... I put up comments, the moderators read into them and take them down .... I don't swear .... or repost the same four lines ...

MARA:

How do you feel about liars? Have a problem with people who lie?

The two million donors that have given to Obama's campaign cheer Nancy on.

She can tell Hillary's elite (remember Bush's elite?) that threatening to take their money elsewhere is just fine.

BeBopp: I apologize for the error. However, I am not supporting anyone for a co-presidency who has been disbarred from practicing law - for one year or more. I am not supporting anyone for co-presidency and that is what the Clintons are seeking.

Second, I am not part of the Obama campaign, and am an independent voter.

Third, I do not consider anyone who spoke these words to be either a Democratic or American hero:
"It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is." Bill Clinton (BBC 1998)

Anyone know how Hillary can catch up to Obama in the elected delegate count?

With 566 delegates to be elected, O leads by 160 give or take a couple. Mathematically, she has to win 70-30 from here on out.

dl:

Somebody "officiating" this website is on your side ... my comment about spinning the "smart" economic guys from Wall Street who watched the housing industry sink into foreclosure being smart when it comes to Senator Obama disappeared ... and yet, your comments remain unchallenged!

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan

It is time for Pelosi to go. She is the worst speaker of the house that I ever had.

She is a deceitful and unprincipled woman. She cannot change the superdelegate rule in the middle of an election. How dare for her to make a bold face lie! Disgusting woman!

MattOhio

did you just say Obama is begging for money?

yeah... sorry but I just gave another $25

and I am like the million or so other people who give often...because I love my country and my party and what they stand for...not the Clintons....they are everything wrong with this party...with politics for that matter.

I think Hill might be the one begging...cause 70% of the country ...uh...does NOT LIKE HER.

Mara:

Bill Clinton was not disbarred for life. On January 18, 2006, He could reapply for his license in the State of Arkansas.

This is just more of the Obama campaign throwing Democratic heroes on the pyre for their own selfish reasons.

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan

West Coast Messenger: First, Michigan voters have a right to vote, even if the party leadership made a mistake. But the Clinton proposal was a sham. Did you read it? And the backers of that proposal were not the people of Michigan - they were the some of the same filthy rich donors who wrote the letter to Pelosi, have funded the Clinton campaigns for years and given literally millions of dollars to the Clinton library. One donor to the Michigan sham-primary, Fred Eychaner, has given over FOUR MILLION DOLLARS to the Clinton Library alone. (Foundation Directory). How can you honestly believe that these people care about working people - here's an idea - give them a call. Their numbers aren't hard to find. I did it yesterday. See what kind of people they are.

Right now, Rezko has not been convicted of anything, although he doesn't look like a great guy. But he sure gives me an opportunity to bring up the trials of the Clinton supporters. It's hard to know where to start if you want to talk about Clinton politics and convicted felons, but a good place would be Norman Hsu, who gave $850K to Hillary Clinton (SF Gate, 9/07). Bernard Schwatrz, who supported the Michigan sham, has given $750K to the Clinton Library and has contributed to their campaigns for years, was convicted of selling missile secrets to the Chinese (Fine: $14MILLION; NYT 2002). Bill Clinton has been disbarred from ever practicing law in this country. The list goes on and on and on.

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Obama 1st Anti-American Pres Candidate!!
Obama got $250,000, Rezko got jail!!
Obama's pastor: Italians "Garlic Noses that lynched Christ Italian style"!!!
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dl: Obama doesnt have an economic plan...he is out begging for money in Wall St....that right...the Wall St that he criticized...and the money is going to pay for ads in PA...a primary that he wont win....what a waste!!

...and beebop that's right the people on wall street who work for those firms are giving (relatively small contributions compared with the rest of his numbers from the internet) because they know who can solve the financial situation that we are in...

those contributions are predominantly from individuals who have a brain when it comes to economics...

as the New York times has backed Obama's economic plan...

stop with the spin

Hillary Clinton failed inclusion and diplomacy with congress on her universal health care bid. She subsequently surrendered and aligned herself to the health care industry as the largest recipient of money among candidates from health care special interests.

Do you all understand that she had a low ceiling of electability to begon with...now she has trashed that with her numbers already...but you still are trying to say that she is better than Obama...
you people are crazy and have been duped by these people for 15 years...

do you all realize that if Tsongas or Kerrey did what Hillary is doing now ...if they did it (and they could have with similar numbers) back in 1992... and they didn't have an ex-president/husband campaigning for them 24/7...
Bill would have never been President.

Countallthevotes:

Are you surprised that the candidate who wants to "foreclose" on the voters in Michigan and Florida has taken so much money from the real foreclosure industry? He has taken more money from Wall Street than Senators Clinton and McCain .... combined ... funny ... there he was down there talking about regulating WALL STREET .... LOL

Obama's vision is to bring people together....Yes, he just nearly brought half of Dems together...

Obama's hope for change: yes the change of owner of W.H. to his name but will be surronding by the same old politicans (Kerry, Ted, etc -- SOSO

His plans are simply written by his diligent advisers and his job is just to read them to public...

Anything esle, probably that is all about him...

Hillary Clinton is flip flopping on pledged delegates and superdelegates by encouraging party elite to vote against the will of the people - “I believe strongly that in a democracy, we should respect the will of the people and to me, that means it’s time to do away with the Electoral College and move to the popular election of our president.” - Hillary Clinton in 2000. This kind of leadership found support in the notion of "false consciousness" that originated in the philosophical writings of Marx and Engels.

Obama Is Only One To Safely Trust

At this point in campaign '08, it should be apparent that of the three major candidates, Barack Obama is the one you can safely trust. If you have been watching the news of late, you would realize that Hillary Clinton either has a terrible problem with memory, or is at odds with the truth. It seems to me that to trust Clinton with greater responsibility of the public welfare than she currently has, is nothing short of a departure from sanity. She is in this race for Hillary Clinton, not for you and me.

Barack Obama is the candidate who, after college, went to Chicago's southside to help Chicago's urban poor, while Hillary took a high salaried position with a law firm. People make choices, and it has been Obama's choices that clearly set him apart from Ms. Clinton. He chose and still chooses to remain a congregant of Trinity United Church of Christ. The former pastor, Rev. Wright, made comments, which, when viewed out of context, could seem unsettling. There has been much learned discussion from blacks and whites concerning his remarks. These discussions have shed a greater light of understanding on them. Bottom line, Barack Obama is not the summation of his church, nor the church the summation of Barack Obama.
Click to learn more...

As for Sen. McCain, I have always had a bit of respect for the guy, but the recent reports concerning cozy relationships with a wide range of lobbyists have left a dark cloud over his candidacy. I just wish the media would pay a bit more attention to these relationships, because as I often suspect, "where there's smoke, there's fire." If the majority of voters desire a government less influenced by lobbyists and special interests, and more influenced by the wishes of the majority, then a vote for McCain is a vote to be mired in the past. This "more of the same" includes the standard fear mongering that was seen as successful in 2004. Both McCain and Clinton have played and will continue to play this card in an appeal to this most basic of instincts. If we continue policies based on fear, either real or perceived, I think we will lose opportunities to truly change the direction of this country and change lives for the better.

Barack Obama is setting the bar much higher than we have seen in a long time. He combines a lofty, yet attainable, vision with concrete plans and goals to reach that vision. Clinton and McCain offer no vision, and plans that are more of the same. I don't know about you, but the last seven-year nightmare tells me that a new vision for this country is long overdue.

beebop:

Thanks so much for the list of Obama contributors who are foreclosing on everyone.

tomdavie,

you write: "The numbers dont lie. Obama is unelectable."

Do you ever check the latest polls at realclearpolitics?

Just have a look. I hope you got a strong heart.

A lot of you are very unintelligent people. You can't "blackmail" the DNC to throw the election. This in crazy and unethical. It doesn't matter who or what Moveon is: The point is that Hillary's highrollers are angry because they invested money in a candiate that didn't win. How is any of this Obama's fault? Many Hillary supporters blame him for being a good candidate - how ludicrous! She is NOT the best leader, but that doesn't make her less a patriot. I can't wait until this is over - it is bringing out the worst in ALL Americans. I will vote for Obama because he is a very good person and a brilliant leader.

ExRepublican:

Considering that Sen. Obama has received $1.18 million from subprime lenders and has taken more campaign contributions from the top ten issuers of subprime loans that attack rings hollow as just words. Sen. Obama has a record of talking about standing up to special interests and then caving to their demands. Hillary has a 35-year record of standing up to special interests and delivering results.

Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans. [cq.com]
Obama received $266,907 from Lehman. [Cq.com]
Obama received $5395 from GMAC. [Cq.com]
Obama received $150,850 from CS First Boston . [Cq.com]
Obama received $11,250 from Countrywide. [Cq.com]
Obama received $9052 from Washington Mutual. [Cq.com]
Obama received $161,850 from Citigroup. [Cq.com]
Obama received $4600 from CBASS. [Cq.com]
Obama received $170,050 from Morgan Stanley. [Cq.com]
Obama received $1150 from Centex. [Cq.com]
Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. [Cq.com]

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Obama is a great leader and country uniter, every one who follows him has said that...

Whether the statement is true is still no evidence...But suprisingly people believed it just because HE said so...

The only reason those people chose HIM because they just simply hate Clintons too much....

That is the fact... only hatred makes Obama

I am listening to Senator Obama on ABC News. He is wrong.

He will NEVER get enough of Senator Clinton's supporters to win in November. He is the knee capper. He is dishonest and dangerous to the Democratic party. The party will be gutted if he is the candidate. The general election will be a referendum on the Democratic party. It will be a mass walk out. The WSJ and MSNBC poll released today has been manipulated to mislead the public.

The legacy of November will be bitter and ugly. And the heeling will take years and years. During that time capable, minority candidates of every ethnic background and with stories significantly more compelling than a one term senator from Illinois will be set back all in the name of a huge ego. I wish it were not going to be so.

I have not left the Democratic party. It is leaving me.

Moveon.org is supporter of Barack Obama. Moveon.org is a privately funded group by David Axelrod and his media firm AKPD Media.

MC: "If your idol is the nominee, he and the DNC will sorely need their Cash!"

Actually MC, it looks like you've completely missed this campaign. Obama has raised incredible record breaking funds from small donors, way past Senator Clinton, way past any Democrat or Republican in history, and he did it with the support of 1 million grassroots donors, not from "Big Boss" big money political dealers. Whether or not you like him or not, it's a political upset of astounding proportions and a real demonstration of Obama's political mastery. It's to the point where McCain is begging Obama to agree to use public campaign funds, because he can't compete with Obama's grassroots fundraising force.

By the way, I believe that your kind of sentiment, that we have to put up with economic elites calling the shots because we can't elect a candidate without them, is the exact kind of cynicism that will doom us in the long run, and it's where I think the Clinton campaign has ultimately failed. Of course she can't do anything but believe in it, she's been indebted to big money ever since she ran for Senate.

It's incredible that Clinton is the biggest receiver of healthcare lobbyists money when she was once the champion of healthcare reform. A sad tale for America really, but one we can bring to and end.

The March 19-22 survey of 1,503 American adults found that Sen. Obama had maintained a 49 percent to 39 percent advantage over New York Sen. Hillary Clinton in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination. Another Gallup poll finds that Clinton has the lowest ranking and highest negativity among the 3 candidates. Her negative numbers are the worst at 32% likeability, going as far back as 2001 when she got elected to the senate.

MoveOn + Obama = A Dream Team?

I hope Moveon.org plays a major role in Obama's nomination to ensure McCain's victory in November. Whoohoo!

Attention Superdelegates,

Which presidential candidate is making sure that Florida and Michigan will be sufficiently disenfranchised come the fall election?

Clue: His name rhymes with drama!
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Obama = $250,000 from Rezko, Rezko gets jail time (I'm sure Obama hopes to be able to pardon his buddy)
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REPLY TO Lou Mar 27, 2008 5:31:19 PM

Wow, I don't think even your candidate of choice would willingly claim you as one of their own. But then again, maybe you'd fit right in....
You're frightening...and sad.

Barack Obama Volunteer Says ‘Data Entry Error’ Caused Request for Clinton Delegate to Cast Vote for Obama in Texas.

Ann Althouse provides an update on some possibly shady dealings regarding Obama campaign efforts to get Clinton pledged delegates to switch to Obama. She says that she and her son Chris Cohen received the following e-mail from a supposed Obama camp volunteer, in an attempt to explain away the situation:

Funny, Tom Davie, when the recent polls are clearly showing that it's Senator Clinton that is unelectable. Talk about spin. Plus your stats mention nowhere the huge number of independents and moderate Republicans that are now firm Obama supporters.

One of which is me... heck even my dad's going to vote for Obama, I never thought I'd see the day that he'd vote Dem. Oh and by the way, I'm a regular supporter of MoveOn.org too, because people out on the left aren't the only ones that want us to Move On from bad politics and the politicians that promote them.

Gallup reports todayVoters' preferences in two hypothetical November general election matchups remain close, with John McCain at 47% to Clinton's 44%, and McCain's 45% to Obama's 44%. The difference between McCain's 3-point advantage over Clinton as opposed to his 1-point advantage over Obama is not statistically significant, but marks one of the few times when the two races have not had either identical gaps or gaps only a point different.

Obama supporters "dis" these 20 signees at your own peril.

If your idol is the nominee, he and the DNC will sorely need their Cash!

As I staetd earlier these are DNC SUPERDONORS. That is why they feel they have every right to be heard.

MoveOn funds cannot even approach the donor power of these 20!

steve thinks only HE can think independently. Only someone who is DEAD BOLT stupid thinks this.

the numbers dont lie Steve. Obama is unelectable.

yup, the stars are lining up for McCain!

latest rassmussen report.

Clinton 47 obama 42

March 27 2008

Obama getting crushed even MORE in the general election

Obama 222 Mc Cain 301

Clinton 246 Mc Cain 248 -tie

The numbers dont lie

Obama is unelectable.

It is my opinion that our current Political and Economic systems are doomed. For too long both have been in the control of the fat cats, the top 10% who control 70% or more of the wealth in this country.
For some unknown reason most of you believe that these folks represents your interest. The Ponzi schemes that they create on wall street to enrich themselves ends hurting the middle class and the poor.

Read about the Auction Rate scheme that you and I will be paying for. Bear Stearns anyone. The Clintons are part of this cabal.

You must begin to listen alternative to alternative information and read books that present contrary and well researched views from the norm to formulate your own opinion. If you were to take these steps you will stop voting against you own self interest.

I read your blogs and most of you don't have a clue of what is going on in America. You watch the empty suits on the various network shows and use what they say to formulate your opinions.

Moveon.org is the farthest left wing of the party. Clinton democrats HATE them as well as all the republicans obviously.

28% of clinton supporters voting for Mc Cain. Only 19% of Obama supporters voting for Mc Cain.

Get over it. Obama is unelectable. No liberal media spin can save him now. Just polarize more of the Democratic party.

Latest Gallup Poll as of today - March 27, 2008
Gallup Daily: Obama Now at 48% to Clinton 44%

In The Wrath of Kahn the infinitely wise Spock said, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." "Or the one," added Kirk.

Listening to Clinton's playground bullying supporters gives the painting "The Scream" a shrill voice, and it's giving me a headache. I applaud MoveOn and its effort to end the shrill scream boiling up around the Clintons.

"Pot calling the kettle black"
MoveOn.org is a tool of George Soros, a billionaire, who is - and has been - trying to influence elections with his wealth.
All of these "fat cats" sicken me. Make up your own minds who to vote for!

More on Michelle Obama!

Its been three weeks in which several polls show that Clinton has a lead on McCain in the general election and Obama loses by a large margin. While that would only be the starting base for the general election campaign, the Obama advocates should really stop showing their uninformed bias by claiming he is the only one that could beat McCain. Shouting among yourselves does nothing to make it true.

His involvement with the lunetic racist Rev. Wright is enough to make most American throw up!

John: thanks for the pick:

Polls conducted nationally by Gallup, Quinnipiac University, and AOL show Hillary Clinton leading by an average margin of 15 points nationally. According to Gallup, this marks the sixth consecutive day of Gallup Poll Daily tracking showing Clinton with a statistically significant lead over Obama, something she had not accomplished since Feb. 7-9 polling.
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Tim: You are so right. Wright, Farrakhan, Ayers and Rezko would be coming to dinner at the white house. I read Obama's bio in the New York Times and what a background. His mother was married three times, his father four times and there are 8 children involved. All from different mothers and fathers. Obama had severe ties to Rezko and it states it on his taxes. He knew what he was doing when he chose friends like Farrakhan, Ayers, Rezko and Wright. If Rezko had dirty dealings that would include Obama too because he was his attorney. Now he wants to turn his back on him? If he was president of this country there would be a disaster like never before. And I believe he can be dictorial when he wants to be.

tomdavie ~

If the roles were reversed, and Clinton was where Obama is and vice versa, what would you guys be saying...

"He needs to step aside...he's tearing apart the democratic party...blah, blah, blah."

We definitely wouldn't be hearing that "Take it to the Convention" pep rally chant.

I whole heartedly agree Move On. I went on line and donate $100.00 to Democratic Party today and left blogs in lots of places encouraging others to do the same. When they send the email acknowledgment,you can sent a reply that they promise to read and can use that to tell them that you're donating to replace fat cats threat. Obama campaign has proven that lots of people who give a little can outdo a few people who give a lot and without the threats, arm twisting, favors owed and strings attached. That old top down is falling in the face of grass roots people who take responsibility for their own party. The grandma who gave $3.09 and a Bible verse is every bit as much a partner as the person who can afford to give the maximum. We can effect change for the better if we work together. Yes We Can.

To texasdemocrat from another texasdemocrat...

Where was all that "Vast Left Wing Conspiracy Talk" when the decision was made in January to pull those delegates. I'll tell you where...absolutely no where. Just like Clinton herself, the Clinton supporters want to play that card now that they realize she needs those votes along with a lot more to catch up with Barack's pledged delegate count.

When the Campaign of Inevitability was flying down those tracks, no one had a problem.

Furthermore, I don't think it's necessary to say that those Democrats that in Florida and Michigan are gonna vote Republican or sit at home in November. Those voters will be fired up and ready to have their v