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Nader to Clinton: Stay In the Race!
March 28, 2008 8:45 PM
Sometimes it's as if those dudes from The Onion are writing this election.
"Senator Clinton:
"Just read where Senator Patrick Leahy is calling on you to drop out of the Presidential race.
"Believe me.
"I know something about this.
"Here’s my advice:
"Don’t listen to people when they tell you not to run anymore.
"That’s just political bigotry.
"Listen to your own inner citizen First Amendment voice.
"This is America...
"Just tell them --
"It’s democracy.
"Get used to it.
"Yours truly,
"Ralph Nader"
No, seriously, this is real.
- jpt
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Off topic, but important:
Google a search for, RNA Movement Trinity Church Wright, you will see just how little the Wright matter has been explored.
The press is avoiding too much info. I have never seen one word anywhere about the RNA - Trinity Church - Muslim connection. If they will not delve into conflict, then individuals must.
The Republicans play full contact politics, as we all know. The connections mentioned above will be their "equipment"!
I stiil do not know how deeply Wright's separatist movement is ingrained in Obama. But I certainly know that "Separatist" is opposite of "uniter" by Webster's or any other definition.
I do not like militants nor fanatics of any ilk. White, black, or otherwise, and certainly do not want to be even inadvertantly furthering their cause.
I also know that like a tumor, it is foolish to say it is "benign" until one has done a complete "work-up and a biopsy"!
Only then shall we know for sure.
Posted by: mc | Mar 31, 2008 4:41:15 AM
Firefighter writes, "If the Obama supporters were confident that he is going to win they would not be calling for Hillary to get out."
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It seems you're confused. Obama HASN'T asked or even SUGGESTED Hillary quit. Like a lot of folks you have MISTAKENLY (which is quite typical) equated the suggestion with being a Obama supporter. The writing is on the wall and they realize that the Democratic Party as we know it could be damaged for decades by having someone who lost the popular vote, pledged delegates and had fewer state wins "STEAL" the nomination via backroom deals.
Firefighter writes, "They would ignore her and continue campaigning they way McCain handled Huckabee. The fact is Hillary will win big in Pennsylvania and will win the majority of the remaining states.
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Even if she "wins" PA it won't be by much. Granted she should win big considering the Governor of PA basically said his constituents basically don't vote for Black politicians. (lol) Go figure.
Firefighter writes, "Depending on what negatives come forth on Obama and momentum, she could even win ALL remaining states.
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Not only will this not happen but it won't even be close.
Firefighter writes, "One Obama supporter on meet the press said the reason Hillary should bow out was not because she was weak but because she was strong and is expected to finish strong in the remaining elections."
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Funny how folks like yourself always talk about he said, she said and can never remember WHO said it. The odds that they would actually have ANYONE on Meet the Press provide such a silly statement are slim to none. Why do you folks persist in making stuff up? Were you in Bosnia as well? (lol)
Firefighter writes, "Another commentator said she may have only a 5% or 10% chance now but after everyone has voted and with a strong showing her chances will go up! Hang in there Hillary we will not give up!!"
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In the words of Ronald Reagan, there you go again. He said, she said and the convenient memory lapse. Can't remember WHO said it huh? Typical. That's what happens when you make stuff up or even worse; don't understand what is actually being said.
Posted by: Dems | Mar 31, 2008 3:11:20 AM
By the way, where IS Michelle Obama? Is she still campaigning for her husband? I have not heard from or seen her for weeks.
Posted by: ellen | Mar 30, 2008 7:05:40 PM
Doctorate writes, "Who ever heard in 2008 of nominating for the presidency some guy who hasn't even held a national office for one full term?"
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First question. A doctorate in WHAT? I only ask because I'm sure you know Abraham Lincoln was a STATE legistlator (Illinois ironically) for (8) years. Don't get angry. Just say THANKS for being ENLIGHTENED.
Posted by: Dems | Mar 30, 2008 4:55:27 PM
Doctorate writes, "Who ever heard in 2008 of nominating for the presidency some guy who hasn't even held a national office for one full term?"
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First question. A doctorate in WHAT? I only ask because I'm sure you know Abraham Lincoln was a STATE legistlator (Illinois ironically) for (8) years. Don't get angry. Just say THANKS for being ENLIGHTENED.
Posted by: Dems | Mar 30, 2008 4:55:20 PM
If the Obama supporters were confident that he is going to win they would not be calling for Hillary to get out. They would ignore her and continue campaigning they way McCain handled Huckabee. The fact is Hillary will win big in Pennsylvania and will win the majority of the remaining states. Depending on what negatives come forth on Obama and momentum, she could even win ALL remaining states. One Obama supporter on meet the press said the reason Hillary should bow out was not because she was weak but because she was strong and is expected to finish strong in the remaining elections. Another commentator said she may have only a 5% or 10% chance now but after everyone has voted and with a strong showing her chances will go up! Hang in there Hillary we will not give up!!
Posted by: Firefighter | Mar 30, 2008 3:22:51 PM
May they fight to the bitter end. This keeps McCain out of the news. There is no such thing as bad publicity. In the end tying McCain to Bush will ensure a Dem victory.
Posted by: slate | Mar 30, 2008 1:26:00 PM
The issue of Rezko will be big one for attack in November. The money Obama takes from lobbyists and then lies about are ridiculous. He knew about Rezko. Obama was "friendly" enough with him to take him to view his new million dollar plus house with him. Then what about the money from the nuclear industry re: leaks after he changed his input in the Senate?
Posted by: katherine | Mar 30, 2008 1:11:34 PM
Correction:
Oprah bought about a bilion dollars worth of the media. I left out the word dollars.
Posted by: sienna | Mar 30, 2008 1:05:25 PM
Typical men saying "honey you need to stop, people will start calling you bad names" are sooooo afraid if Hillary Clinton it makes them red faced mad. Nothin' worse than a woman a man can't control. Hillary's been called every name in the book, taken heat from unlikely sources, betrayed by friends and allis and she just keeps on. Those are just the qualities in the leader of the free world we need.
Posted by: Texas Lil | Mar 30, 2008 12:23:31 PM
OBAMA WILL LOSE IN NOVEMBER: Obama has won the GOP states. He couldn’t win any of the big blue states or any of the BATTLE GROUDND STATES LIKE OHIO, MICHIGAN, and FLORIDA. Hillary has won all these states and she is going to win PENNSYLVANIA. John Kerry lost majority of the states now won by Obama. Hillary won all of the major blue states. So Obama and his cronies are working to suppress the voices of 70 million people yet to vote as well as to silence the voices of people in Florida and Michigan. They are trying to steal the election from Hillary just like George Bush stole from Gore in 2000. HILLARY, YOU SHOULD NEVER QUIT SUCCOMING TO THESE BULLIES
Posted by: Independent | Mar 30, 2008 11:53:37 AM
Who ever heard in 2008 of nominating for the presidency some guy who hasn't even held a national office for one full term? His problems have only begun to surface. If Governor Blagojevich is brought down here in Illinois because of his Rezko ties, Obama will be right behind him. Only in America, where the masses are mesmerized by American Idols and Terminators can we expect to see such a fiasco. Latte liberals and those blacks voting without engaging a thought process do not represent middle America, and therefore don't represent the democratic party.
Let's count all the states, including Michigan and Florida, and then see where we're at. Let's also take another look at some of the shenanigans that went on at the caucuses and reconsider counting those results; all caucus states should re vote in primaries. Let's also see how many lawsuits there are against the media for their blatant interference in this entire process. And what about Oprah? I hope she didn't exceed her allowed contribution amount!
Obama needs to step down, try to fulfill his senate term, which is why we sent him to D.C., and show us he has the maturity, patience, perseverance and work ethic to earn - not buy and cajole - his way to the top.
Posted by: doctorate | Mar 30, 2008 11:48:19 AM
Mary Lou writes, "You folks who act like Obama is entitled to the presidency (as if it's preordained, a second coming!!)and everyone else move out of the way - seem to have no clue about how the democratic process is supposed to work.
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Do Clinton supporters even know what the word "ironic" means? If ever there was a show of entitlement it's without a doubt the belief Hillary is entitled because a) her husband was President and b) women feel she deserves something for having a husband who embarrassed her. Yeah, I know how sexist that sounds but the question is does it have merit? Sure looks like it. Talk about an entitlement mentality...sheesh.
Posted by: Dems | Mar 30, 2008 11:20:44 AM
You folks who act like Obama is entitled to the presidency (as if it's preordained, a second coming!!)and everyone else move out of the way - seem to have no clue about how the democratic process is supposed to work.
Posted by: Mary Lou | Mar 30, 2008 10:45:42 AM
As a political analyst, I am quite convinced that the protracted rivalry within the Democratic presidential campaign, which has, for the most part, been instigated by Hilary Clinton’s insistence on “going all the way”, could only amount to political suicide for the Democratic Party. This, of course, in turn, would cost the Democrats not only the November election, but also would lead o the disenfranchisement of the next generation and those who feel neglected by history in this country. In this campaign, it has become obvious that Obama represents the voice of the youth and those who are tired of the old system and its politics of cronyism, and are craving real change in the political landscape in this country. On the other hand, Hilary Clinton represents mostly the working-class who nostalgically clings to the memories of the economic boom of the 90’s, the repeat of which, from an economic standpoint, is quite unlikely, given the gargantuan tasks ahead, such as, how to end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan (Which some people seem to have forgotten about. America has some 20,000 troops stationed there), and the existence of major international players such as China and India, whose demands for oil and other resources make the repeat of the 90’s nothing more than a just wishful thinking and a pipe dream. America needs an overhaul in its political scene, something that only a new voice that reflects the aspirations of the new generation can achieve. A personality whose charisma can rally people together and can bring about renewed hope. Of course, the word ‘Change’ can sometimes be frightening to some, simply because it might mean letting go of the old habits, which often die hard. However, judging by the state in which America has found itself, thanks to the current Administration’s abrasive policies, both home and overseas, change is inevitable and this can only lead to building a better and stronger America. America and Americans can not afford getting stuck in these political bickerings and divisive policies of ‘Us’ and ‘Them’ while countries like India and China are rising as the new politico- economic powerhouses.
Posted by: realist | Mar 30, 2008 9:18:34 AM
Leahy and Dean would never get elected in middle America or the South. Only in a far left state like Vermont. and don't believe these polls that popped up all of a sudden. Very fishy. They do not relfect the reality we hear in our communities. remember Dean said things were being done to end the nomination process.
Posted by: geevill | Mar 30, 2008 9:05:17 AM
For the 8 years, democratic party is increasingly leaning towards the far left as the power and influence of organizations such as Moveon. It's now time for the centrist democrats to say enough is enough! If not, the centrists are going to be further marginalized...
Posted by: Unashamed_Independent | Mar 30, 2008 7:01:17 AM
I hope and pray Hillary Clinton remains in the race. I think it's ludicrous that certain Dems are trying to convince her otherwise. The Dems best hope Clinton wins the nomination 'cause this is one Dem who'll be voting Republican if Obama wins the nomination. There's just NO WAY I'm going to vote for Obama!!
Posted by: RJ | Mar 30, 2008 4:12:21 AM
i can hardly stomach the idea of michele obama being in the white house with all the contempt she has for this country.
Posted by: fedup | Mar 30, 2008 4:05:52 AM
Ralph Nader may not be diplomatic but he has a resume for making real change happen a mile long -- not hyperbole like Jr. Senator Obama.
Good for him recgnizing that Obama and all the news rooting on for Clinton to drop out is motivated by Cowardice and fear.
Hillary is the only Democrat for President with Courage, patience and steafastness.
Go HIllary -- You will win! Obama is a light weight with an Old Boy network of has been backing him and swift boating you. People are onto Obama's double talk and Good Cop Bad Cop Games.
Posted by: Steve | Mar 30, 2008 4:00:39 AM
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