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NAFTA Confusion

March 06, 2008 10:05 AM

Buried in a Canadian Press story about the NAFTA controversy is the intriguing notion that all of this began, as ABC News' Jennifer Parker has reported, with the Canadian Prime Minister's chief of staff, Ian Brodie.

CP reports Brodie told a room full of reporters about the Democratic candidates' anti-NAFTA rhetoric that, according to a source, "someone from (Hillary) Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt...That someone called us and told us not to worry."

The original CTV story did mention that low-level Clinton staffers made contact with the Canadian government, but this would seem to imply higher-level contact, if Brodie was chatting about it.

Needless to say, the Clinton campaign denies it. "We flatly deny the report," says Clinton spox Phil Singer. "We did not sanction nor would we ever sanction anyone to say any such a thing. We give the Canadian government blanket immunity to reveal the name of anyone they think they heard from."

- jpt

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Why is this Clinton-NAFTA-Canada story not headlines in the USA? It really baffles me, considering the harm it did to Obama in Ohio, especially. How can we get this in the news?

Posted by: Christine | Mar 7, 2008 8:55:47 PM

I can't believe Hillary? None of this makes sense to me. Hillary has shown that she is now better than George Bush when he looked in our faces and lied and mislead us in going to war. Now here we go again. What I am really disappointed in is how the news media covers this. Why put Obama's name to this scandle and not Hillary's. Hillary claims the news media has been unfair to her and that is yet another lie. The news media has bent over backwards to support her run for the highest office. One that she does not deserve. If she is the nominee I can not vote for her after being a Democrat all my life. I will do a write in for Obama or vote for McCain. Hillary absoultly scares me.

Posted by: Lyra Talarico | Mar 7, 2008 11:50:00 AM

Karl

Pullin a Romney means bashing the other guy/gal for a position you hold (or used to hold the day before in the case of Willard).

Hills pulled a Romney. She castigated O for doing the very same thing she was doing. Clever politics - and it don't make her a perpetual victim.

She claims to be tough enough to stand up to anyone. Now either she is or she ain't. And everytime she cries no fair - it looks like she ain't.

54 40 or fight!

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Mar 7, 2008 10:33:38 AM

Het the Commander Guy -

It is documented that Obama people met with canadian officals. And the Obama camp finally admitted it. Now the Canadian gov't is saying Hillary's camp contacted canadian officials but no one on either side can confirm that so stop making Hillary the scapegoat for Obama and his incompetence. He is such a whiner - he wond 11 straight wins and then he loses 3 states and he starts crying - give me a break. The guy is a jerk.

Posted by: Karl | Mar 7, 2008 8:02:31 AM

There has to be some voters in Ohio and Texas who now feel extremely sold down the river by the media. Gee, no surprise this story is hidden in the back pages.

Posted by: SE Croft | Mar 7, 2008 7:10:29 AM

there were more paragraphs in the actual story - the canadians said they didn't know why the story said clinton when it should have said obama! the corrective wording gets left out, i see.

Posted by: so saddened | Mar 7, 2008 1:55:12 AM

What is wrong with this picture?

Clinton, McCain, and Obama are all active Senators.

Instead of pointing fingers at each other or suggesting what can be done about NAFTA, why are they not doing something about it?

Time to get back to your day job, Senators. Remember, the one you were elected to do?


Posted by: ken | Mar 6, 2008 11:21:55 PM

its absolutley absurd that people think theres an Obama bias, when this story, which is now the BIGGEST STORY IN CANADA, can only get on blogs in the United States.

Can we get you another pillow, Hillary?

Posted by: John | Mar 6, 2008 11:21:07 PM

Americans are been fooled to believe that the press are not hard on Obama while in actual case they are killing his campain and painting him dirty. They wait for any little news and they blow it out of proportion. When this came out to suggest the actual distortion came from Clinton campaign the press refused to make it a headline and actually trying to downplay it. Then they will come out in the morning to ask if the press is hard on Clinton and easy on Obama and people will vote. Hillary refused to see the post racial era but Obama is a genius and will defeat the press, Hillary, Bill and the republicans. How about asking if the press is giving hillary a free pass. Anyway Obama must have expected this double standard the press and hillary are doing.Hillary and her campaign spoke to Canada and the press convinced the Ohio public that it came from Obama just to punish him and he lost. He lost Ohio because of that and he knows it and the press knows it. He is still lucky and the Onus is on him to make it public.If he is waiting for the Press to do his job then he is stupid. The press dislike him but the people like him and he has to be realistic and face the challenges that follow him

Posted by: dave | Mar 6, 2008 10:24:23 PM

This would be funny if it were the only scandal the Clintons were involved in, at the present.Type these into a browser.
1. Peter Paul vs Clintons
2. Chinagate
3.Partners of Rezko giving money to Clintons.

And reason Hillary brought Maggie back was because she sterilized the Foster scene from Whitewater.
Obama isn't perfect he has stated that fact. But the Clintons are dirty.
Why won't they release documents reguarding her experience, and tax returns?
And McCain is being compared to Jane Fonda during Nam he made 35 propaganda videos for the Vietnamese during the war and gov. refuses to release his records or those records.
Just type viet vets against McCain into a browser and see the great war hero.

Just like sports the rookie is the best.
And he's now an emty suit he has passed 2280 bills compared to Hillarys 50.

Posted by: rockon | Mar 6, 2008 9:40:49 PM

WHY ISN'T THIS ON YOUR FRONT PAGE??????? Maybe ABC is in bed with the Clintons.

THE FINGER POINTER IS USUALLY THE GUILTY PARTY.

Posted by: Rhoda Penmark | Mar 6, 2008 9:34:22 PM

WHY IS THE MEDIA NOT SHOUTING ABOUT THIS STORY LIKE THEY DID WHEN IT WAS THOUGHT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN LIED???? ARE YOU AFRAID HILLARY IS GOING TO WHINE THAT THE MEDIA IS ATTACKING HER?

Posted by: KFleming | Mar 6, 2008 8:39:51 PM

Why isn't this front-page news? Clinton shamelessly dupes the voters of Ohio and Texas and frames Obama? What a travesty of democracy.

What is wrong with the Press??

What makes Wolfson babblings NEWS? Absolutely pathetic!

Posted by: BZS | Mar 6, 2008 7:15:11 PM

Ugh.

It also seems that the Canadians are now saying that the leaked memo's author likely misinterpreted Goolsbee.

But, damage done. Mission accomlished, eh Hillary?

Posted by: Tungsten | Mar 6, 2008 7:12:14 PM

Of course this news story would be buried in a blog and not on the front page ,Hillary Clinton has 35 years of media contacts. I think us Obama supporters need to turnoff our TVS, they are not to be trusted.

Posted by: Tommy from FL | Mar 6, 2008 6:47:14 PM

I'm thinking the NAFTA/Clinton connection shouldn't be buried in a blog, but on the front page, like Obama's conveniently released story (right before March 4).

Posted by: peahen | Mar 6, 2008 5:17:21 PM

Mary Miles....you are WRONG! Our Prime Minister WANTS Clinton to WIN, so McCain CAN beat HER...Be real...Clinton has more Lobbyist donations than ANYONE! If not McCain, Clinton will play the games...Obama is a threat to the Lobbyists, they DON'T want him to win...

Posted by: sue | Mar 6, 2008 4:36:07 PM

HA! Clinton doin' the ole "WINK, WINK"!

Looks good on HER!

Posted by: sue | Mar 6, 2008 4:31:55 PM

There are lots of nuances but let's get above all that and at least say this:

Either they BOTH said the same thing, or Clinton did and Obama didn't. So either way, it's very low for Clinton to not only accuse Obama (something he either didn't do or at worst they both did), but also make such a huge deal out of it.

Posted by: Foo | Mar 6, 2008 2:45:11 PM

These are media's jobs.
I don't see lots article about Mc Cain in this news because Mc Cain has no Rep Opponent and he is taking a break.

Posted by: fake | Mar 6, 2008 2:44:03 PM

Can no one point out that the overwhelminag majority of US anti-NAFTA sentiment is directed NOT at Canada but at Mexico?

Canada's labor and environmental standards are higher than the US's. Canada's dollars are higher the the US dollars. US jobs go to Mexico, not to Canada.

NAFTA holds down Canada's labor and environmental standards.

Now put that info back into the Harper Govts all too convenient leaks......

It is time for the news media to go over this with a fine tooth comb and do so faster than they've investigated the needle tracks on Roger Clemens's backside.

Joe

Posted by: joe shmoe | Mar 6, 2008 1:02:40 PM

That little trick is called "Deflection". If you're doing something you don't want anyone to see, you yell as loud as you can that the guy over there is doing exactly that. All eyes are on him now. You do as you please. We all learn it on playgrounds. Unfortunately, some of us hold onto it until adulthood.

Posted by: Marie Z | Mar 6, 2008 12:51:00 PM

Where's the pudding?

Posted by: esvida | Mar 6, 2008 12:26:36 PM

If the information about Hillary's staff being involved with the Canadian government - is accurate - why didn't the US media say so before the Ohio elections? How could you guys sit on that information and watch Hillary get away with lying about her involvement - and framing Mr. Obama for something that he did not do?

If Hillary actually did what she accused Mr. Obama of - and the US media didn't report the story - that is terribly, terribly wrong.

What is with the media bias against Mr. Obama?

What is the excuse for not telling the people of Ohio what had happened - before they voted? Where is the blaring headline that tells the rest of US voters what happened?

I am pleased that Mr. Obama has decided to turn up the heat. He'll even do that with more civility - than Hillary.

Posted by: redcat | Mar 6, 2008 12:18:38 PM

Fact: Obama's chief economic advisor meets with Canadian officials and tells them not to get overly concerned about Obama anti-NAFTA talk, that it's only political posturing. Obama camp denies it. Memo from Canadian official documents the discussion. Period.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | Mar 6, 2008 12:08:11 PM

This is aside but, what am I hearing, that Republicans are voting in the Democratic Primary, for Hillary because she will be easier for McCain to beat in November? What's this about? How exactly does that work? Why does it work? Help? Am I missing something vital?

Posted by: Marie Z | Mar 6, 2008 12:07:27 PM

"If words of command are not clear and distinct, if orders are not thoroughly understood, the general is to blame. But if his orders ARE clear, and the soldiers nevertheless disobey, then it is the fault of their officers." - Art of War Quote

So, it seems that there was a communication breakdown between Obama and his Advisor, so who is to be balme?

Posted by: Humm | Mar 6, 2008 11:34:26 AM

Hey spock - You know this is the type of thing that Romney pulled on a regular basis...i.e., bash the other guy over a position you hold (or recently held in Romney's case)?

I'd take HRC's NAFTAgate actions as a show of homage to your guy. Romney's attack on HRC for proposing the same socialized health care plan that he implemented in MA was classic.

Now Hillary is shows she can pull a Romney too, by attacking the other guy for doing the very thing she just did.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Mar 6, 2008 11:27:33 AM

Humm that's Ok because Hillary screamed "Shame on You" at Obama.

Posted by: Humm | Mar 6, 2008 11:24:46 AM

The only problem senator Obama had here was that he trusted his staff and would not have imagined that one of his staff during a personal tour was involved in some conversation with the Canada and denied that there was a meeting based on what he may have understood from his staff. The initial CTV news also mentioned that someone from the Clinton camp did the same. Let us be honest, we know that senator Obama himself was not part of this and that the Clinton camp took this too far. We need honest people in elected office. If Hillary continies like this, we will end up with another bush like.

How you run your campaine determines how you govern.

Posted by: james | Mar 6, 2008 11:19:23 AM

Ha ha ha.
What's good for the goose...

Posted by: John | Mar 6, 2008 11:11:49 AM

Politics, like science, can be mysterious to outsiders. It's too bad that the common folk don't have translators in place, who decipher some of the confusion for us, and give us understandable information, in our own language. Oh, wait, maybe we do. They're called "really good reporters". Thanks Jake.

Posted by: Marie Z | Mar 6, 2008 11:07:12 AM

Clinton's campaign actually went out of its way to contact the Canadian embassay to pooh-pooh her statements about NAFTA. Obama's campaign didn't; the Canadians sought him out. If Clinton wants to magnify this into a character issue, her character certainly comes out on the losing side.

Posted by: ivagrey | Mar 6, 2008 11:03:13 AM

I am Canadian and know for a fact that Canadian politicians and newspeople have a deeply ingrained problem with telling the "truth". They just want to make everyone happy so they are just spreading things evenly across the board. Muddying the waters, so to speak. Obama and his camp are at the bottom of this - no doubt in Canadian minds for sure. Canadians start by telling the truth and then flip flop so as not to make waves. We are famous for it. We don't want anybody mad at us.

Posted by: Mary Miles | Mar 6, 2008 11:00:50 AM

An Obama senior official MET with Canadian government representatives, you seem to have left out of the story. This particular story carries about as much weight as if "The Commander Guy" (blogger below) had contacted government representatives on behalf of Huckabee.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 6, 2008 10:51:23 AM

It seems BOTH Hilary Rodham Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama think the same - tell lies to the American People for votes and tell our allies differently. Promise the world and give nothing in the end!

The fact that any of the candidates are talking to a another country is a crime!

Both libs are flawed, Obama insults our strongest allie Australia, wants to bomd another allie Pakiestan but wants to talk and be nice to Iran and Chavez.

Both libs are getting money from other countries - china, Iran, Venezuela and so forth what country are they running in?

Everybody is asking about Hilary, but what about Obama, why does he have in his book that the solution to White and Black is Islam??

Both libs are frauds, you libs had a chance with Dodd, Richardson and/or Biden (who actually was not bad) but like always you libs go for the fairy tale instead of reality!

Cant wait until taxes go up because of the libs when they are pushing tax increases for anyone making a dollar.

Posted by: spock | Mar 6, 2008 10:50:22 AM

This again!!! geez Obama already admitted that his guy talked to the people he even went so far to say that his guy was an economist and not into politics so his words may have been taken out of context, so what is the big deal now??

Posted by: SJ | Mar 6, 2008 10:48:03 AM

The Barack New Campaign Slogan:

"Fifty-Four Forty or Fight!"

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Mar 6, 2008 10:42:13 AM

Finally, after all the Canadian newspapers have been reporting this for the last couple of days, you're the first mainstream U.S. news program to report this. Obama needs to demand an apology from the Clinton campaign for using this to damage Obama's credibility in the days leading up to their wins in the Texas and Ohio primaries. Obama needs to point out that Hillary's judgment was lacking in using rumormongering to mislead the voters in Ohio and Texas with NAFTAgate messages on radio, in press conference, and in the mainnstream media.

Posted by: Allen | Mar 6, 2008 10:41:03 AM

Was it last week that Obama Did admit His staff to talking to Canada about nafta.

I am sure Mr Obama has learned much over the years from his good buddy. of 18 years, Rezko on political fixing.

He said he would do anything to become Presidnt........... that is the only thing I beleive, that obama has said at all.

I do beleive He holds a no bar stances on that, and will stoop to any level to attain That goal.

Posted by: seah | Mar 6, 2008 10:40:17 AM

The truth of the matter is that *both* candidates were demagoguing on NAFTA, but in a stroke of what was either bad luck or Canadian conservative malfeasance by whoever leaked the memo, Obama has been the only one to get toasted.

So, who was it in the Clinton camp that contacted the Canadians? The Obama campaign flatly denied things early on, too -- because it hadn't been clear that the meeting wasn't recent, wasn't in Canada, wasn't official, and wasn't at the Obama camp's behest. Wouldn't surprise me if a similar dynamic was at play in Singer's denial.

The Obama scandal had legs because of an unfortunately well-crafted summary sentence in the juicy memo. That's missing from the Clinton flip side, but perhaps because this time we know that the leaker is the Canadian Prime Minister's Chief of Staff, the Clinton scandal will have legs as well.

Posted by: Creamy Goodness | Mar 6, 2008 10:37:15 AM

no surprise here: the Clintons were actually the ones doing the wink wink, but they blame Obama for it.

man, they really are ridiculous. they will, literally, say anything to win.

she owes the people of ohio an apology.

and Jake, thank you for posting the story. Halperin is such a shill for Hillary; he wont go near this, depsite running every slam from Clinton about "nafta-gate" there was.

Posted by: nothing new | Mar 6, 2008 10:29:16 AM

Whoa, Baby. This type of thing is not unexpected from the Clintons.....if you have been watching them anyway. Turns out that TeamHillary is responsible for the NAFTAgate comment.....and they turn around and stab Barack in the back with it. Rhe words out all over the canadian broadcasting company today.

Classic Clintons, Man. Props to Hill. Got Her Ohio out of it.

But on a more serious note, I'm concerned about a possible collaboration by the Clinton campaign with a FORIEGN government to affect an election and in a time of war. Looks like congressional investigation time. Paging Ken Starr, are you out there brotha?

And one more thing....Hey Barack, if you are elected and withdraw the troops from irak, you could always send them to Canada. I hear they got oil up there.


Posted by: The Commander Guy | Mar 6, 2008 10:23:30 AM

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