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Obama Condemns Wright's Statements
March 16, 2008 5:26 PM
…in a new Youtube video
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-- jpt
March 16, 2008 in 2008: Democrats | Permalink | Share | User Comments (209)
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Right on JSN. What you said is SO true!
Posted by: Pat | Mar 17, 2008 10:17:26 PM
What happened to Separation of Church and State. Every American be politician or not has the right to choose his or her own faith group or church. Politics is politics and religion is relilgion. Our forefathers settled this issue a long time ago. We want to go back to square one and screw things up. This is clearly a violation of Senator Obamas personal faith reguaredless. For anyone to debate or question this issue befalls our Constitution. Be American and respect our traditions they have worked for alot longer than any of you have been around.
Posted by: Scott Boggs | Mar 17, 2008 6:39:08 PM
Mr. Hannity could care less who your next president is. This shock jock wants more attention, more ratings, more money, period. He loves a racist rant so he can point his little finger. I'm not fooled Mr. Hannity, you are a racist and the worst kind. You sit back react to other's percieved racial remarks and cry foul. Mr. Hannity, Rush, Mr. Grant should disclaim that they are for entertainment purposes only. No self respecting voter shoud base his/her valuable vote on their twisted views that are only spewed for shock value.
Posted by: mims | Mar 17, 2008 12:47:29 PM
Also did not Michelle Obama's speech about not being proud of this country sound like a preaching by this minister?
Posted by: spock | Mar 17, 2008 11:51:52 AM
to all obamaites,what excuse are you going to give when the american public finds out that he straight LIED to them about ever being at one of wrights divisive sermons.he has and all you have to do to prove it is to go to newsmax.com aug 9th 2007 and read the article.now maybe some of you will not think that wright refering to the United States of White America and obama nodding his head in agrement is bad.i personally do and im sure that a lot of other americans will also.two things he Lied and for the saint thats supposed to unite us to nod in agrement to me means he does not believe his own words.
Posted by: don tufts | Mar 17, 2008 10:55:40 AM
There are some facts that the african american community needs to face.
These are the facts and they are unrefutable.
1. Not every white person endorsed slavery.
2. Africans have sold africans into slavery.
3. Africans continue to enslave africans today.
Face the facts:
Some white people did your ancestors wrong, some didn't care and some helped right the wrong.
Some black person could have sold your ancestors to some white person.
If you were born in Africa now, you could be a slave.
What does this all mean to you? Be glad you're in America, study hard and work hard. Stop playing the victim.
I tell you, I'm sick and tired of hearing the slave sob story. Yes, I agree that it's wrong and that it should be condemned. But FFS, MOVE ON!
Posted by: Jsn | Mar 17, 2008 10:47:36 AM
For all those obama supporters.
IF he wasn't wrong about Wright, If those videos are miscontrued and Wright is indeed the patriot you paint him out to be,
WHY IS HE APOLOGISING?!
WHY IS HE DISTANCING HIMSELF FROM WRIGHT?
You don't apologise when you're right and you don't distance yourself from things you believe in. Take yourself as an example, you are neither apologising nor distancing yourself from Obama BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. Your conviction demands you stand by your beliefs and I applaud your integrity for that!
Your beloved leader however, does not share your convictions!
Posted by: Jsn | Mar 17, 2008 10:26:15 AM
The problem with Pastor Wright hating white people is that he is forgetting that many white people gave their lives during the civil war so that black people could be free. Many white people thought slavery was wrong back then and many white people since then have fought for the rights of black people. You can not change racism by preaching racism. And Obama cannot unite people when he belongs to a separatist church.
Posted by: T | Mar 17, 2008 10:19:52 AM
Ms. Odell,
So as a liberal I'm supposed to somehow feel guilty about the black experience and I can atone for it by a) being quiet if hate remarks are spewed my direction or b) voting for Barack Obama? Frankly, I don't think this is what Senator Obama stands for and the reason he condemned the pastor's remarks. Or is Senator Obama just trying to play it safe?
Posted by: WestCDoastMessenger | Mar 17, 2008 9:52:17 AM
Malthusian,
Have you noticed a substantial difference in the overall participation and tenor of this blog since the Wright matter has erupted? It looks to me that sentiments are running about 4 to 1 against your position, and holding. If any more evidence comes in that purports to show Obama judgement the dam might break on him. What then?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 17, 2008 9:48:06 AM
I am disappointed and hopeful at the same time. I understand that the history of African Americans is not taught in schools and therefore there may be a level of ignorance regarding the black experience. Unless you have been Black in America you "CAN NOT" fully understand the emotional experiences of racism. Unless you have attended a Service at Trinity Church you are uninformed. Trinity Church in Chicago is a Christian Based Church with an African American Congregation that has direct knowledge and experience of being Black in America.
Black Americans were not invited to America they were brought in chains as less than human. We are only a few generations removed from these atrocities, and yet Black Americans have survived.
As a nation if America is to prosper and survive it will need to embrace the idea of judging individuals not on the color of their skin. All of us are mixed with something. No one is pure anything. Our commonality is humanity.
America has not been a complete angel in the world, the reality is that there are other countries that hate us.
America the world is watching you. Stop hating and love your neighbor, your life may depend in it.
Posted by: Diane Odell | Mar 17, 2008 9:43:04 AM
Harriet,
Those are some might sweeping generalizations. Isn't that like the church accusing the media of an attack on them, because of a 30 second sound byte over a thirty year history? My question out of this is whether the church sufficiently groomed Barack Obama to be President, since that is from where he took much of his foundation.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Mar 17, 2008 9:42:14 AM
Harriet, you really think you have everyone figured out don't you? It sounds like you disapprove of anyone who believes differently than you. Let's all say it together "God Damn America", does that make you feel better?
Posted by: michelle | Mar 17, 2008 9:26:36 AM
Harriet it's unfortunate you are so short sighted as to feel that anyone who disagrees with the pastors SELF DESCRIBED radical views is a racist.
The hypocrisies you speak of lie within your own value system and not that of the American people.
No society is perfect and blaming all the woes of a society on a race of people is ignorant.
Posted by: LPS | Mar 17, 2008 9:23:17 AM
Every time a black person mentions the proven historical oppression of their people, some white people scream reverse racism, How sad, how ignorant, and how despicable a claim that some fearful white people are making of the current mud slinging in American politics. If there were a God, that God would not be proud of many of Humanities actions toward Humanity on this planet. Is it a new concept that a religious leader would talk about damnation of actions of individuals, a group, or even a Nation from God? No. J Fawell, P. Robertson, R. Parsly, J. Haggy have all made statements about Liberals, gays, Muslims, the ACLU, The NAACP, and women’s right groups that are not founded in any form of reality. These “tapes” of Jeremiah Wright are full of some things that are the truth and some things that are conjecture like HIV’s origin. His assertion that we brought 911 on ourselves, that statement has a yes and no answer to it, which we are still debating to this very moment. Were we told the complete truth about Iraq? Not according to UK, the Pentagon, or the CIA. The Tuskegee Experiment Really Happened. We are the # 2 weapons supplier to the world. Hiroshima could have been handled better, say dropping the A-Bomb off the coast of Japan thus intimidating them into surrender and saving innocent life. But who knows in hindsight what could have been in that situation. So where is the controversial statement other than the HIV aspect? If you are white, ask yourself, can you really relate to the victims of hundreds of years of hate filled slavery and discrimination? Can you relate to being a Jewish victim of Hitler if you are a Christian and white? No. One could come close. But never, ever really, truly achieving the same level of understanding as the victim
Posted by: johndavidprince | Mar 17, 2008 9:21:10 AM
Sorry about the reposting and any previous typo errors. Thank you for you time.
What would victory in Iraq be, if there were such a thing to be had? Who surrenders? How can we tell what level of safety is considered a victory? Will we be there until Utopia is achieved in Iraq? We all should realize that anything close to a Utopia in the Middle East not going to be a reality. We rid Iraq of Saddam, Iraq had a Vote, the new government passed a constitution, and has some form of a security force. Why is that Victory not enough? The war was sold to the American Public based on conjecture and false pretenses. By international law it was technically, Illegal. We were not attacked by Iraq on 911 as stated by the Pentagon’s recent report. So it was an unprovoked action. Not to mention the fact that Iraq voted country into a theocracy with our US tax payer help. We also created 1000’s of young terrorists with the anti-Muslim rhetoric from conservative pundits and our “kill them all and let God sort them out” dogma. We shocked and awed them to win their “hearts and minds,” If we have a victory in Iraq it will never be the one any rational person should hope for. Is another Islamic State what the region needs? Is that Democracy, Letting religion run a nation? Just because you have a vote does not mean you cannot vote yourself right back into tyranny. Which is just what Iraq did (with our help). The lesson is that there is less freedom of religion now in Iraq. And our cultural ignorance has fed right into the rhetoric of people like Bin Laden. We through the blunder of our foreign policy and war on a tactic, “terror” has brought the world more “terror” and vicariously became Bin Laden’s personal recruiter. This is a position we should be in. The side effects of this massive hemorrhage in decision-making are flowing down hill right into our economy, our liberty, our credibility as a nation, and the future safety. We as a nation need to stop voting for more of the same we need to vote
Posted by: john david prince | Mar 17, 2008 9:18:52 AM
I feel it is too late for condemnation for a man who is running on the premise that WORDS MATTER. He cant have it both ways. For 20 years he never condemn this man.
Posted by: toby | Mar 17, 2008 9:17:56 AM
Sorry about the reposting and any previous typo errors. Thank you for you time.
What would victory in Iraq be, if there were such a thing to be had? Who surrenders? How can we tell what level of safety is considered a victory? Will we be there until Utopia is achieved in Iraq? We all should realize that anything close to a Utopia in the Middle East not going to be a reality. We rid Iraq of Saddam, Iraq had a Vote, the new government passed a constitution, and has some form of a security force. Why is that Victory not enough? The war was sold to the American Public based on conjecture and false pretenses. By international law it was technically, Illegal. We were not attacked by Iraq on 911 as stated by the Pentagon’s recent report. So it was an unprovoked action. Not to mention the fact that Iraq voted country into a theocracy with our US tax payer help. We also created 1000’s of young terrorists with the anti-Muslim rhetoric from conservative pundits and our “kill them all and let God sort them out” dogma. We shocked and awed them to win their “hearts and minds,” If we have a victory in Iraq it will never be the one any rational person should hope for. Is another Islamic State what the region needs? Is that Democracy, Letting religion run a nation? Just because you have a vote does not mean you cannot vote yourself right back into tyranny. Which is just what Iraq did (with our help). The lesson is that there is less freedom of religion now in Iraq. And our cultural ignorance has fed right into the rhetoric of people like Bin Laden. We through the blunder of our foreign policy and war on a tactic, “terror” has brought the world more “terror” and vicariously became Bin Laden’s personal recruiter. This is a position we should be in. The side effects of this massive hemorrhage in decision-making are flowing down hill right into our economy, our liberty, our credibility as a nation, and the future safety. We as a nation need to stop voting for more of the same we need to vote
Posted by: JohnDavid Prince | Mar 17, 2008 9:13:09 AM
We actually have an example of how the MSM plays the “guilt by association” card when it comes to certain political and religious figures. In the 2000 campaign George W. Bush spoke once at Bob Jones University; it was an event used to bludgeon Bush with for the rest of the campaign and into his presidency. And, of course, Bush did not attend Bob Jones University, financially support it, or consider Bob Jones to be his spiritual mentor or close friend for 25 years. Yet these things mattered not at all. Bush spoke at Bob Jones University — and so to many in the press, he was joined at the hip with it. The association between Reverend Wright and Senator Obama is far deeper in every respect.
Peter Wehner
Posted by: michelle | Mar 17, 2008 9:11:15 AM
Malthusian77, I wouldn't bet the farm on Obama heading up the Dem ticket, at least not with PA, IN, KY, FL and MI revotes still remaining. Oh, and who knows when another explosive Obama associate will burst inconveniently on to the scene to spoil your fantasies – the Weather Underground anyone? Yeah, do a little research, and start fidgeting because Rev. Wright may just be an offensive buffoon but essentially harmless but others close to Obama may not be.
Posted by: Bartlebybickle | Mar 17, 2008 9:00:23 AM
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