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Key Obama Iowa Adviser Invokes 'Monica's Blue Dress' When Assailing Bill Clinton's 'Patriotism' Comments

March 24, 2008 11:07 AM

Gordon Fischer, the former director of the Iowa Democratic Party and a senior adviser for Sen. Barack Obama's efforts in the Hawkeye State, is still very much involved in making sure Obama gets delegates as the caucus process continues.

He's also quite fired up about former President Bill Clinton's comments in front of a North Carolina VFW Hall, which the Obama campaign took to be an impugning of Obama's patriotism.

In his blog, Fischer writes:

"B. Clinton questions Obama's patriotism.  In repsonse (sic), an Obama aide compared B. Clinton to Joe McCarthy. This is patently unfair.  To McCarthy.

"When Joe McCarthy questioned others' patriotism, McCarthy (1) actually believed, at least aparently (sic), the questions were genuine, and (2) he did so in order to build up, not tear down, his own party, the GOP.  Bill Clinton cannot possibly seriously believe Obama is not a patriot, and cannot possibly be said to be helping -- instead he is hurting -- his own party.  B. Clinton should never be forgiven.  Period.  This is a stain on his legacy, much worse, much deeper, than the one on Monica's blue dress."

That's not quite the kind of comment that keeps with Obama's pledge to focus on policy differences instead of personal attacks, I think it's safe to say.

- jpt

UPDATE: Fischer writes to say, "On my individual blog, I made a stupid comment.  I sincerely apologize for a tasteless and gratituous comment I made here about President Clinton. It was unnecessary and wrong.

"I have since deleted the comment, and again apologize for making it. It will not happen again.

"I hope my readers will accept my apology and we can move on to the very important issues facing our state and country. Thank you."

UPDATE 2:  Obama spox Tommy Vietor writes, "As Senator Obama has said repeatedly, comments like this have no place in our political dialogue and he strongly rejects them.”

Vietor also says that Fischer was not a co-chair, though he's been identified as such, as well as an
adviser, someone who organized Iowa for Obama, etc. etc. So I changed his label to "key adviser." The point is he's directly affiliated with the Obama campaign and he was invoking the blue dress.

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I have been totally turned off By the Obama campaign and his constant whining.
He plays innocent but lashes out in the worst of ways.
He lost my vote.

Posted by: Jaime | Mar 29, 2008 3:36:43 PM

I have been totally turned off By the Obama campaign and his constant whining.
He plays innocent but lashes out in the worst of ways.
He lost my vote.

Posted by: Jaime | Mar 29, 2008 3:36:31 PM

I think Hillary should stay in the race, till the end. She has run such a good race so far, in spite of all her disadvantages (superior name recognition, big lead in fundraising before the primaries).

90 Days into the Primary she's trailing a guy most people had never heard of even 6 months ago, and her campaign is dead broke. She's running a campaign based almost exclusively on "experience", which will work well against McCain who had only been in Congress for 20 years before Hillary had ever been elected to any public office. Did I mention McCain is a Bona Fide WAR HERO, not the imaginary "I think I recall sniper fire" kind.

So her only tactic left is to play the victim: "They keep asking me questions first",
"I'm not winning because of Florida and Michigan, let have a do-over"
"Hey they brought up Monica's dress, that's not fair!"

If she plans to run the country like she has run her campaign...

Posted by: MEC | Mar 25, 2008 8:54:31 PM

So many Obama supporters on this thread are having hissy-fits about Senator Clinton's Bosnian lie.

Where was the indignation when the NYTimes documented that Obama had lied to audiences in Iowa by saying that he had passed legislation in the Senate tightening regulation of the nuclear industry.

Not only was no such legislation passed, the bill he introduced he watered down to no regulation when one of his biggest contributors, Exelon, the largest nuclear company in America, lobbied him.

Let's talk about this lie, let alone the lies Obama has told about his spiritual mentor.

Posted by: Susan Rennie | Mar 25, 2008 12:41:46 PM

Perhaps there is one positive aspect of having Barack Hussein Obama as the Democratic presidential nominee.

Evidence from Obama's inability to win high electoral vote states strongly indicates that he cannot win in the general election in November. No caucus manipulation there.

Whether the negatives eminate from his radical left positions, his questionable business deals and contributors(Rezko, Ayers, and others), his hateful and offensive religious ties (Jeremiah Wright), or his hidden racism ("typical white person"), Republicans would politically emasculate Obama in a presidential election.

As evidenced with past Democratic losers (Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry), Obama's national political potential would be effectively eliminated.

A world without the plague of Obama.

Now there is change we can believe in.

Posted by: Jayhawk | Mar 25, 2008 9:02:54 AM

The Obama camp wants Hillary to get out before all states have their say, yet they call her entitled. I find that so funny.. who thinks they are entitled now?

Posted by: An Opinion | Mar 25, 2008 8:39:34 AM

I appreciate Gordon Fischer's reminder to every Democrat that there is at least one more 800-lb gorilla in the room, besides the patriotism question that the Clintons and Republicans are trying to handcuff to Senator Obama, the race relations issue, the Rezko issue, etc.

Gen. Tony McPeak, James Carville, Gordon Fischer, Bill Richardson -- they all serve to keep the conversation lively on the Democratic side so that our candidate is fully-vetted long before they become the nominee.

It was not the Swift Boat Veteran's attacks that brought down John Kerry in 2004 -- it was his own lack of a strong response to them -- so we must fully vet our OWN nominee before the other side does it for us.

Geraldine Ferraro actually served the Dems well, and the nation, by making her outlandish statement because how many more millions were latently thinking the same? And Fox News' distortion of Rev. Wright's fiery sermons -- didn't these two attacks bring about Sen. Obama's strong and swift response? That speech was something Americans desparately needed to hear and were it not for the two attacks, the Philly speech would not have happened.

We don't want our nominee to be milk-toast when they face John McBush in the fall. And, no matter who wins the Presidency, they need to be able to face the leaders of rouge nations with a steady thumb on the red button. I'd much rather have the rough and tumble occur NOW, to fully vet our Commander- in-Chief rather than to solely offer on-the-job training. Staring down Mahmoud Ahmidenijad, Kim Jong-il, or Hugo Chavez -- Mr. or Mrs. Milk-toast will not be able to handle it.

If we're all adults here, then Kudos to Gordon -- do we really want to elect the spouse of a House-impeached President who questions the patriotism of his spouse's opponent? Really? Well, if so, then stained blue dresses are the least of Mrs. Clinton's worries.

Wait until the Republicans have at her in the fall. We need to tame THIS 800-lb gorilla ASAP! Thank you, Gordon, for helping us to do so, now, before the Republicans have a chance to do her in next fall.

Posted by: Andrew Lietzow | Mar 25, 2008 8:35:45 AM

mrlc,
I understand your concern, but the "About Us " page you are refering to on the church's website is not an "Anti-White" statement nor is it an "Anti- American" statement. The church is simply honoring the memory and the struggles of a people who have suffered. It is simply saying that it will never forget it's ancestors or the people in Africa who are still suffering. When you here the word 'Black' mentioned over and over again you must understand that doesn't mean 'ANTI-WHITE' Just as when you hear God, in the Bible, speak of his loyalty and love of the Jewish people he is not anti- gentile. Now, I am not excusing the remarks made by Rev. Wright. I simply wanted to bring a little clarity.
To me, the bigger story in this Rev. Wright controversy,, is the congregations white members. If the church was, as some call it "the black equivalent of the KKK", why would they have white members. There were white people in those clips. I don't think any black person would willingly be a member of the "KKK". I would really love to see some of them interviewed to get their perspective.

Posted by: ddpwoman | Mar 25, 2008 7:24:13 AM

As a foreigner looking into the American election, I fail to understand why the American people would want the wife of an impeached President be their next president.

It seems to be that the American people got caught up in a time warp and couldn't get out of it.

While the rest of the world is moving forward, the American people seemed to be choosing the other direction.

Posted by: maxd | Mar 25, 2008 5:54:07 AM


Subject: note on obama church & changes, include definition of term "diaspora"
The original "About Us" page from Obama's Trinity United Church of Christ was altered last week and should be noted as being done within the 24 hrs surrounding the time of Obama's so-called historic speech that was crafted as a defense of his close relationship with pastor Wright and the Trinity UCC.

BELOW IS THE ORIGINAL "ABOUT US" PAGE FROM OBAMA'S CHURCH that was posted on their website  until the time of his defensive speech last week, at which time the church rushed to add nearly a whole page of more acceptable christian verbiage to precede the original message. I have the original web pages saved on my computer as a web archive and am able to refer, copy or otherwise share them... However, if a casual browser now went to the tucc website he/she will get a screen full of regular christian passages that don't contain anything controversial or inflammatory.  Also, a casual browser might not know that he/she must now scroll down nearly a whole page past the new passages to see the original page.  [In case you are wondering about the term "diaspora" Diaspora - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: The term diaspora (in Ancient Greek, διασπορά – "a scattering or sowing of seeds") refers to any people or ethnic population forced or induced to leave ... ]  Of additional interest is the page CFABS, which includes a link to the original mission statement and language about being an African nation and "remaining true to the mother continent"...)

BELOW IS THE ORIGINAL "ABOUT US" PAGE FROM OBAMA'S CHURCH...THIS IS THE MISSION AND VISION THAT HE AGREED TO COMMIT HIMSELF TO AS A MEMBER OF THIS CHURCH:

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.
The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION.
A congregation preaching SALVATION.
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.

The media has not questioned Obama on these commitments  or these commitments having an inference of allegiance and patriotism to Africa first with no mention of the allegiance, patriotism, or otherwise value and worth of being American. 

Posted by: mrlc | Mar 25, 2008 1:31:59 AM

Hillary has a plan for healthcare the ecomony, ending the war, student loan problems, etc.
obama started out running with a speech and of late that seems to be all he has.
no orginal plans to help the american people-just speeches- he is an empty vessel when it comes to the issues before us-but he can give a great speech or so cnn keeps telling us.
I do not watch cnn anymore-cnn is un-american. the talking heads on that station are so biased-and the stations whole agenda is clear for any thinking person to see. If you want to get any news at all-maybe, maybe you can rely on the bbc-but american media-now just a stroke above jerry springer-no substance there-I once admired david gergen-but now he is there just nodding his head to whatever cafferty,wolf, and ac say-I guess I can blame the man for trying for making his money. Where is Walter Cronkite when you need him?

Posted by: jgaw | Mar 25, 2008 1:17:17 AM

I am getting so tired of all the pointing of fingers coming out of the Obama camp. That is all they can seem to do as he has no leg to stand on in the legislative arena. His voting record is not that substantive and he has chose not to vote on key issues.

Posted by: Deb | Mar 25, 2008 12:45:19 AM

Dear Elaine...I believe today you got 50 years off your chest. Calm down, take a deep breath. You're gonna be ok. Don't frighten the Obama kids. They think Armand Hammer is their soap powder.

Posted by: RL in Illinois | Mar 25, 2008 12:13:20 AM

hillary has an economic plan. obama says blue dress, mccarthy, whatever. then obama says i'm the good guy and hillary plays dirty. phony, hypocritical, and boring!

Posted by: so saddened | Mar 24, 2008 11:49:50 PM

elaine writes:
"For sure, whenever a democrat wants to insinuate a "campaign against everything I believe in" posture, they always, always use the phrase, "like McCarthy"."
-----
Well, not QUITE. What's meant is that the individual said to be "like McCarthy" is wrapping himself in the flag, waving papers around, and accusing others of lack of "patriotism".

You're wrong about Armand Hammer, too.

Posted by: Navarro | Mar 24, 2008 11:35:20 PM

The democratic way is to let all democrate' have their vote.
we cannot say Hillary should pull out of the race yet. What about the voters of Pa, WVA, NC, indiana, kentucky, Oregon, PR, Michigan and florida?
Obama is not entitled to be the nominee
let all the democrates have a say.

Posted by: jgaw | Mar 24, 2008 11:27:55 PM

some people are using it against Hillary the earmark money she got for New York. was it just pork or did it do any good for the people of New York?
or has Hillary done nothing good for New york as a senator.

Posted by: jgaw | Mar 24, 2008 11:24:28 PM

Hillary Campaign IS Over May it R.I.P. in the history books. She lost the popular vote, delegate vote and the majority of states.

Time to step up, and bow out with grace and humility!

The Democratic Way!

Posted by: Agmines | Mar 24, 2008 11:22:51 PM

McCarthy was stalled by those Army-McCarthy hearings along with the censure investigations. He conducted his investigations from the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, whose mandate was to investigate the federal government. His targets were Soviet sympathizers and spies. For years people who should not have been in our government were, not only that, but welcomed with open arms. Liberal media one after another ran with any story, without investigating the truth (kind of like Dan Rather) and the scare was on. Yeah, we've read alot about his alcohol problem and big mouth BUT the hollywood elite kept up the constant bashing of McCarthy because he CORRECTLY identified some that truly were communist sympathizers. I would read in a heart beat, a true accounting of the McCarthy era. What I know has been picked up in bits and pieces over the years. For sure, whenever a democrat wants to insinuate a "campaign against everything I believe in" posture, they always, always use the phrase, "like McCarthy". It's disgusting. It's ridiculous that the American public believes a documentary done by PBS. Give me a break, have they done anything but the liberal slant and talking points? Don't quote out of articles written by the left wing elitist. Yeah, he found them out but his personality got in the way. Let's remember, years later we found out many of the "I'm not a communist" indeed turned out to be card carrying members. What you learned in school - was written by teachers unions which wouldn't teach children real history if their lives depended on it. I remember asking my history teacher, "why on earth is Armand Hammer so involved in our government", his answer. "Now that is a great man". No, he was an odious man. But my history teacher wanted the kids to learn HIS BELIEF system. Don't believe everything you read. Try reading some conservative historical non fiction along with those liberal books lining your bookshelf.

Posted by: elaine | Mar 24, 2008 10:55:24 PM

Obama is a phoney. Michelle is a phoney. They both hate white folks. They're only interestec in defeating the Clintons. Bill Clinton, as President, supported Congressman Rush over Obama when Obama tried to do to Mr. Rush as he did those he ran over to get his State Senate job. His other Pastor, Emil Jones was the benefactor of the $300 million that Senator Obama earmarked for him last year. This was a thank you for Jones giving Obama a job that Obama could attach his name to legislation and claim he wrote it.

He claims to have done so much. Check out what he really did at Talk Left. com and read "Obama's Third "Toxic Mentor". You'll find a link at the end to Feb 26, 2008 go there and enjoy!

Thanks for sharing and giving me a chance to speak on this.

Posted by: Karen Kohr-Blinn | Mar 24, 2008 10:54:29 PM

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