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Ferraro will now be scripted into that speech for generations to come. she should be mad and she should ask for her name to be retracted from the orginal pages.

I don't think anyone should show Wright respect by calling him "Pastor" or "Reverend" Wright. He thinks he is a man of God, but he's more of an anti-Christ.

Look what type of crowd he's attracting -- racists (Wright, Farrakhan and the violent Black Panthers), corrupt people (Rezko), dumb people (his wife, Ted Kennedy and Kerry, who is a sore loser), etc.

Josee wrote, "Well I think that Obama's reaction to Ferraro may have evolved upon reflection as other situations evolved and I would hope Ferraro could see that in his speech he was not trying to further isolate her but to actually be understanding of where she was coming from."

Well Josee, she stepped down, why doesn't he?

Ferraro should be fired from the campaign. She made disparaging remarks about Senator Obama that were loaded with subtle racism and not helpful. And so she was.

Wright should be fired from the Obama campaign. While he spoke accurately about Hillary Clinton never walked in certain shoes, he also made inflammatory remarks about white racism that are not helpful. And so he was.

Neither one should be disowned. Wright wasn't. I assume Ferraro wasn't either.

This incident proved obama's hypocrisy, and he couldn't be the man for change, using his color as an excuse for racism, Ferraro was right to the point in her comments, and what she said is a fact , " Obama wouldn't be there if he is not what he is", they all know it, he is the new trend for this election season , the new fashion, the obamamania , that will fade away by end of the season in 4th of November,this is part of the show there got to be an Obama , for more excitement and more thrill ,and intense media coverage with more sales and more ads, and he might get the nomination to be the party's choice for the CEO position for more thrill and excitement... WOW what a business,but no nuts will chose a rookie to be the Commander in Chief of the country unless the want the country's future and it's interest to go into the drain and Obama realize this fact very well ,so why he is using Ferraro as a tool ?... hypocrisy ...right ? , where is the change in such mentality ? , McCain will be the right piece of the puzzle, and there got to be an Obama so McCain can insure the position which by the way, will be the best for the country's future and interests. with Obama there you don't need to think much on 4th of November , and this is what's behind Ferraro comments , the good part in this ...senator Obama is full aware of this fact... Mac is Back

tom j, get your facts from someone other than the obama propaganda machine.

Nuts come in many colors
Why isn't the anti-Catholic, misogynistic, gay-bashing preacher John Hagee hurting John McCain, who sought Hagee's support, got it, and appeared on stage with him? Answer: Hagee is white. When whites see a white nut, we dismiss him as fringe. But a black nut? Hold on, pal.

White preachers say the darndest things. Pat Robertson: "Just like what the German Nazis did to the Jews, so liberal Democrats are doing to evangelical Christians."

According to his son, when evangelical pioneer Francis Schaeffer "called for the violent overthrow of the US government, he was invited to lunch with Presidents Ford, Reagan, and Bush Sr."

The late Jerry Falwell blamed the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on American pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays, and lesbians.

'so saddened', why do you keep posting those lies?

Obama's father DID herd goats as a boy. He attended American universities on scholarship. Even the airfare was beyond his means, but fortunately the Kennedys had set up a fund for developing world students to be able to get to the U.S. to use their scholarships.

Barack's grandfather was a cook for the British. Is that your idea of 'affluent'? He wasn't a fancy chef - he was a COOK. Ever see the photos of is wife Sarah's hut in Kenya? Not exactly the house of an 'affluent' member of society, is it?

Barack was on scholarship to the school in Hawaii - and lived with his grandparents in a tiny apartment. Ever see the photos?

More to the point, WHY do you feel it so important to portray Obama as part of some wealthy 'elite' group? Is that one of the Rush Limbaugh dittohead talking points? Because I really don't see its relevance, unless you're trying to 'prove' that only people who come from an upper class can do well academically and professionally. Meaning those who don't....

frank storm, actually even the difficult times are lies. the father who was allegedly a goat herder was actually affluent. after time in indonesia, etc., he went to an exclusive private school in hawaii. and on and on. check out site if you want the true biographical info.

Well I think that Obama's reaction to Ferraro may have evolved upon reflection as other situations evolved and I would hope Ferraro could see that in his speech he was not trying to further isolate her but to actually be understanding of where she was coming from.

Obama wants a frank discussion about race, yet when Ferraro tried, she was branded as a racist by the Obama camp.

It seems the only way to discuss issues about race without being branded as a racist is by agreeing 100% with Obama.

Look at the people he was quick to call racist - grandma and Ferraro. Rev. Wright was okay by him because he did some good in his life. Obama is just too naive and young to understand the issues of race. He only tries to use it for his own benefit and nothing else.

In other words, Granny's words gave him an uncomfortable physical response, that he did not like!!

While wright's comments he didn't agree with!!! No physical response.

Guess what, enough Americans had a big enough response for everyone!!

Ones who had a positive respone to Senator Obama before the wright debacle!!!

Yes, Granny was thrown from the train, under the bus etc.!!

Enough said!!!

He said his Grandmothers comments made him cringe!!

He never said that Wright's comments made him cringe!!

That's throwin' Granny from the train!!!

Obama has the audacity to assume Ferraro felt threatened by black people moving into her neighborhood? What??? She spent 40 years fighting for civil rights that enable him to be where he is today. He claims a white person cannot know what it is like to be black which I agree with. Conversely, he cannot know what it is like to be a white woman either. The audacity of that man thinking he can assume how she feels is astounding. She never said anything racist and Obama knows it. Heck even Pat Buchanan knows it and he is very anti-Democrat and hardly considered friendly to the Clinton campaign. His holier than thou attitude needs adjustment America... vote for Clinton.

A lot of people comment on the apparent inconsistency of Obama saying he never heard disparaging remarks made in person by his minister. My mother (white) has a best friend who is black, yet I have heard her on numerous occasions utter generic racial slurs. My mother is one of the most gracious, giving, and friendly people on the planet, often inviting total strangers home for dinner. Yet, when it's a faceless stranger - like some vague race or religion, she suddenly lapses into stereotypes. Bottom line, I believe that the Reverand can say shocking generalities but still be personally loving to a diverse set of people, one-on-one.

obama gives a speech in which he lectures us, as though we are high school students, on race relations. he assumes we are idiots who never realized there is a problem. of course, he has no solutions, but we're supposed to ignore that.

and, of course, we're also supposed to ignore the reason he had to give the speech in the first place - his 20 year relationship with his hate speech giving spiritual advisor. he wants to change the subject to race relations. distract, distract, distract. not working.

McCain Courts Another Anti-Catholic Leader of the Religious Right

"McCain...wants the backing and political muscle of Religious Right leaders, but doesn't want to be associated with their extremism. He runs the risk of alienating Catholics and moderates by pandering for the support of the Religious Right."

The man is a disgrace to the Democratic party. He is not fit to be senator, let alone President.

to Dee (in your response to me):

(respectfully) You might want to go back and re-read both quotes. My post was around "technically". I believe the specific question on Friday addressed the specific soundbytes being played again and again.

For Will #1;

Some us liberals are just wiser.

We work for ourselves and carry smartphones.

Have a great day!

Frank

I'm Will #1,

I suggest you vote for McCain. He's more American than Obama/Clinton.

Gotta go, I have a job and can't stay on here all day like you liberals.

Obama is friends with William Ayers, an admitted domestic terrorist with the Weather Underground, which declared war on the United States and claimed responsibility for bombing several government buildings, including the Pentagon and the State Department building, in the 1970s. In an interview with The New York Times, ironically published on the morning of September 11, 2001, Ayers was quoted as saying, “I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough.”

NOW WE SEE WHO HIS ASSOCIATIONS ARE WITH.

Now a tenured professor at the University of Chicago (only in America!), Ayers met Barack Obama in the 1990s. They have remained friends ever since.

Once again we have Obama and his groupies, being the child on the playground.

Whaa, whaa, whaa , whaa…..

CNN - Geraldine Ferraro defended her controversial comment that Sen. Barack Obama's campaign was successful because he was black, telling an interviewer Tuesday that she was being attacked because she was white.

Is there validity to what Ferraro, has claimed?

Why aren't we hearing about the reverse charges?

Oh Yea!

She is a woman.
Who is Obama’s grandmother’s age.

How soon I forget.

Voter- Thank you for your kind and honest posts... you seem to have a much higher faith in the mind and hearts of the average person then I do. I want to believe that people are researching outside of this forum and not just blindly repeating what someone that may have been misinformed has said.. I really do want to believe that we as a country have not been "dumbed down" so much as to let the media turn this into a reality television show.. I do..and your posts give me hope. I am a Democrat through and through and my goal in all of this is to share my opinion and my experiences so others may understand that we are fighting amongst ourselves when we should be banding together and backing whichever candidate makes it to the general election that best represents our beliefs and our hopes for the future.

Will #2,

"Sitting in a church, and not saying anything when these statements are made but then you call yourself a UNITER says that you're unethical."

Who do you suggest we vote for?

JGM, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I wish more people were as insightful as you. ...or at least as fair.

Yada Yada Yada

Obama is a victim again. Somebody call the national guards...

just give him a kleenex or something -- he's such a fool.

Sitting in a church, and not saying anything when these statements are made but then you call yourself a UNITER says that you're unethical.

Those of you who believe in Obamanation are really in for a treat when you see everything America stands for get disgraced by him.

When Obama gives speeches what does he do? He preaches and sermonizes. I wonder who his role model is?

Now I know why democrats have a donkey as their mascot....because they're always acting like an ass.

And ahmm JGM, did you see his interview? He said he wasn't sitting in the pews when the statement was made, then he retracted it during his speech.

He is a LIAR.

Obama's actual quote on Friday was, "The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation."

In his speech yesterday he said, "Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely"

As I see this, 'technically', he DID NOT lie, but I can very much see where the implication that he lied was there, and this would naturally bring to mind our cynicism that "slimey politicians always lie" and therefore cause people to be turned off and immediately revert to discounting him, and this is very understandable (Bill Clinton - when is "is" is? I did not have sexual relations with that woman" etc.). 'Technically' not lying still seems dishonest when in the bigger picture, people want the WHOLE truth, not a technicality. Add this to the fact that the soundbytes from Rev. Wright were terribly painful and inflammatory and would certainly invoke anger and a negative reaction in white Americans, especially ones who are unfamiliar with the black community, who were shocked at the vehemence of the statements, particularly when it seems to some that blacks cry "racism" so often. Whites would want the same standards applied to them too and understandably so.

But having said that, I give Senator Obama a pass on this technicality, even though it's a slippery slope, and here's why:

1.) Politics and what is quoted in the media is very volatile and the issue of race is a very highly charged one. Our president is going to have to navigate through these volatile waters, and bluntly speaking, we need someone who is a shrewd politician. Had Obama said 'yes' on Friday without the explanation given in the speech yesterday, the press would have pounced on it and had a field day which may have caused the campaign to take a huge downturn. I think he wanted time to give a concise and thoughtful response to the situation, as David Alexrod said he's wanted to have this conversation for quite some time and the time was right now - people were listening. Did he know about the specific highly charged statements of Rev. Wright back at the beginning of his presidential campaign? Yes, and he said acknowledged that on Friday and said he'd denounced them then. But since the press wasn't making a big deal about it back then, if he'd been the one to pull them out and bring them into the public eye, frankly that wouldn't have been too bright. Sometimes things just have to progress naturally.

2.) I have read Obama's books, followed him closely and read many of the statements of people I respect who support him and say that he really is who he says he is. I do not believe that he is a "hidden racist", and after reading more articles and researching Rev. Wright, and Trinity United Church of Christ, I do not believe it is racist either, nor do I think Obama was teaching his children hatred by taking them to that church. Although I think the statements by Rev. Wright were horrible and I'm glad Obama denounced them, as the press has also brought to us, they are not uncommon in black churches at all.

I think we hold our politicians to an incredibly harsh standard and in our anger and disillusionment with our government, we have come to pounce on them for the least little thing. But for me, Obama's humanity, wisdom and insight trumps the issue of 'technically not lying'.

Obama's actual quote on Friday was, "The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation."

In his speech yesterday he said, "Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely"

As I see this, 'technically', he DID NOT lie, but I can very much see where the implication that he lied was there, and this would naturally bring to mind our cynicism that "slimey politicians always lie" and therefore cause people to be turned off and immediately revert to discounting him, and this is very understandable (Bill Clinton - when is "is" is? I did not have sexual relations with that woman" etc.). 'Technically' not lying still seems dishonest when in the bigger picture, people want the WHOLE truth, not a technicality. Add this to the fact that the soundbytes from Rev. Wright were terribly painful and inflammatory and would certainly invoke anger and a negative reaction in white Americans, especially ones who are unfamiliar with the black community, who were shocked at the vehemence of the statements, particularly when it seems to some that blacks cry "racism" so often. Whites would want the same standards applied to them too and understandably so.

But having said that, I give Senator Obama a pass on this technicality, even though it's a slippery slope, and here's why:

1.) Politics and what is quoted in the media is very volatile and the issue of race is a very highly charged one. Our president is going to have to navigate through these volatile waters, and bluntly speaking, we need someone who is a shrewd politician. Had Obama said 'yes' on Friday without the explanation given in the speech yesterday, the press would have pounced on it and had a field day which may have caused the campaign to take a huge downturn. I think he wanted time to give a concise and thoughtful response to the situation, as David Alexrod said he's wanted to have this conversation for quite some time and the time was right now - people were listening. Did he know about the specific highly charged statements of Rev. Wright back at the beginning of his presidential campaign? Yes, and he said acknowledged that on Friday and said he'd denounced them then. But since the press wasn't making a big deal about it back then, if he'd been the one to pull them out and bring them into the public eye, frankly that wouldn't have been too bright. Sometimes things just have to progress naturally.

2.) I have read Obama's books, followed him closely and read many of the statements of people I respect who support him and say that he really is who he says he is. I do not believe that he is a "hidden racist", and after reading more articles and researching Rev. Wright, and Trinity United Church of Christ, I do not believe it is racist either, nor do I think Obama was teaching his children hatred by taking them to that church. Although I think the statements by Rev. Wright were horrible and I'm glad Obama denounced them, as the press has also brought to us, they are not uncommon in black churches at all.

I think we hold our politicians to an incredibly harsh standard and in our anger and disillusionment with our government, we have come to pounce on them for the least little thing. But for me, Obama's humanity, wisdom and insight trumps the issue of 'technically not lying'.

Jackson,

Ferraro did indeed "diminish Senator Obama’s candidacy because of his race".

How else will you describe this quote:
"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position"?

Does that make Ferraro racist? Well, Jan Schakowsky certainly does not say that in your quote.

Now, like I wrote previously, there sure are people on the Obama campaign who think Ferraro's comments are plain racist. I can't blame them. But Obama has not said so himself and neither have his campaign's official statements.

So no, you have not proven your point.

Sara, the beauty of the human mind is that it is okay to differ. I loved the way you brought up the idea of children since we can get so many of our answers from their behaviors. Honesty most of all. I look at all these posts and see the myriad opinions all individually crafted by people who take the time to do this because they care. I do not believe in Obama and I think he has done a great disservice to the Edwards campaign. It would have been Edwards against Clinton if he had not subverted and kind of deceived people. He did not behave like a child here. He hid things that he thought would hurt him and hoped that they would not be found. Then again this is my opinion and there may be others who share it just like how I agreed with your posting although we do not share the same choice for president.

Why does Obama continually refer to Ferraro?

The race card?

Obama himself, or his camp are the only ones that bring this "race card" up!

Obama acts as if America, is suppose to just give in to him because of his race.

Lets not forget the "they aren't playing fair" mentality.

This shows exactly how inexperienced Obama really is and how he truly has not struggled as the claims. (I am not saying that it he hasn't had difficult times, but who hasn't?)

If you look at what Ferraro, actually said her comment was true.
Where are Joe Biden, John Edwards, Dennis Kucinich, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson?
All White, all Male all were presidential candidates.

All Out!

So was Ferraro comment racists or was it astute?

That isn't what Ferraro was saying at all. She was just pointimg out how He has won where there are large african amer. populations, because the excited about supporting him. He is trying to twist her comments into something racial to benefit him. His campaign is the one who has used racism throughout this election, from Michelle Obama's saying Bill Clintons fairytale remark was racist, to finding that quote of Ferraro's in some small obscure paper and pushing it to the media.

White male candidates have never had to answer a question like why ANOTHER white male should be elected President.

Obama handled this topic with honesty and integrity.

Proud to be a white female supporter of Obama,
Celeste

If the only difference in Obama was that he was all white, Oprah never would have endorsed him. Can you imagine she would indorse a White JR. Senator from anywhere.

Jackson,

thank you for the link and for proving my point; not once in the article does the Obama officials call Ferraro racist.

So, where is the flip-flop?

Neils,

Here's your proof from the senior member of his campaign. FYI, in the future you can always google it.

"Axelrod said the Clinton campaign’s response was not enough and that “she ought to be removed” from any responsibilities she has on the campaign’s finance committee or in any other way related to the campaign."

From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/11/755677.aspx

Hussein claims that, if elected, within 8 years he can change the nation. But somehow in 20 years he couldn't change one church.

Voter- While I respect your opinion I do not agree ..I believe Senator Obama opened the door for dialogue between the races that has been locked up until now. I respect the man in many ways and have been a fan of his for many years. I am not opposed to Clinton, I simply respect Obama more and consider his campaign and presidency something this country desperately needs. It may be a good thing to have had you misunderstand my choice in candidates- perhaps this can show that even two people who may not agree on each other's opposing candidates viewpoints can find that they do agree on where America needs to go from here. Instead of the useless arguements we surely could have had now we too have opened a dialogue that is very rare on this posts.

Obama will be the president for all Americans, more! he will be the first American president for the world. Obama embodies everything that is good in America. He will bring out the best in us. Our unity will help us mature politically and advance materially. Many more will abandon GOP’s political and economic atrophy and decay. With Obama at helm and a common purpose we become more productive, richer, elevating ourselves and advance the world in our wake.

Ferarro was right. If Obama was white with such a "zero" resume', he wouldn't have gotten a dime in campaign money. If anyone felt that his "Race" speech would yield vindication or refute the TUCC and Wright, you are seriously off track.

It was a POLITICAL speech and nothing more. Obama could not distance himself from where the voters are in his district...or his minister! To do so would zap his chances for another term in the Senate. So he was between a rock and a hard place with the need to hold on to his voters and smooth-talk his image with the rest of us. It may have worked with the folks in Southside Chicago but not with me.

Today he speeks on his isolation philosophy to get us out of Iraq in the first thirty days of his presidency. Nice candy for the peacnicks but a disaster with international consequences. Most thinking people know that withdrawl from an unstable Iraq would result in the collapse of Israel and the middle-East, to the great advantage of Iran and an instant loss to us of essential oil supplies. Dumb theory but the propagands must sound good to a few.

Obama's next speech will be on the US economy. Honestly, I would rather sit down for a root canal than listen to another Obama speech. He has a cookbook for our economy? In his lifetime, he has never so much as managed a hamburger shack.

Barack Obama is a rank young opportunist with the gift of practiced mastery of the language and the ability to lead people into thinking only what he wants them to think and believing in what he says they should believe ... only Barack Obama! He has nothing else to offer. Keep your eyes on the swinging pendulum folks, you will never notice your pokets being picked.

Jackson,
I asked for quotes to back claims like the one you just put forward.

Of cause there are people within the Obama camp who find Ferraro's comments racist. I myself am not sure how to charactarize them other than "offensive". But if the Obama camp has officially called for Ferraro to step down for being racist, I sure have missed something.

Can you provide me with any such quote?

Obama desparately trying to change the subject.

Why is it that no Media outlet is yet to call him out on the fact that, a few days ago, he categorically denied having heard Rev. Wright's sermon of hate and then turns around in his speech admitting that he had indeed heard those sermon.

To me, that was the real news of his speech. HE LIED.

Sara, I love your posting. Thank you. You have reflected my belief also. No amount of preaching or jumping up and down shouts will bring about a change to an issue that can so deeply divide us. This is why it was upsetting to see people make mountains out of mole hills. We need to condemn loudly the speeches of people like Rev. Wright. They undo the little steps that so many of us take in our daily lives. We see our children get paste the divide. They do not see the difference -- they just see the personalities and get along so well. Our schools allow this to happen and that is why we need to support public schools so that along with a good education, they allow for intergration. Adults need to chill out. Leaders need to denounce and not condone racial comments. If they didn't mean it, they need to apologize, explain and move on. Mr. Obama could have aplogized for staying for those 20+ years because by staying he condoned Wright. I believe we have hope for unity and change is definately coming because we see it in our children. Politicians do what we the public want. However to do that,they also need to be able to take a stand. Unfortunately, Obama has shown us that he cannot do that.

He's trying to pin his psychoanalysis of Ferraro to explain why she may have come across as racist. Are you for real Obama? Your skill at fogging the average mind with your "words" is not just slipping, it's embarassing. Why don't you get the psychoanalysis you need for your internal and external contradictions you feel you were raised with rather than running for President; a title which you are not suitable for.

Ferraro was talking about affluent college-educated liberals voting for Obama out of a sense of wish-fulfillment, to move past America's racist past, to symbolically fulfill Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream Speech," and black Americans voting for Obama out of racial pride, a point made by civil rights leader Andrew Young. The people are "caught up in the concept" of a black president, she said. She said nothing about affirmative action. Her arguments don't imply anything about logic of affirmative action. For Obama to draw that conclusion is bizarre. Obama is playing the race card again.

Before Ferraro said what she said about the Obama phenomenon, she said, "I think what America feels about a woman becoming president takes a very secondary place to Obama's campaign - to a kind of campaign that it would be hard for anyone to run against." She noted the fact that "the press...has been uniquely hard on her. It's been a very sexist media." She suggested that this had two causes: "Some just don't like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign." All true.

What about opposition to affirmative action and racism? You can suggest ways of improving affirmative action, but if you oppose the logic of affirmative action then that is a species of racism. Why? Because eliminating programs that restrict white privilege function to restore white privilege, and white privilege is racism. Obama will never say this because he needs plenty of white votes to have a shot at the White House (and it's a very long shot).

Dear Americans,
I live in a very small town in WI ( 1200 people small) and we have two African American families that live here. I am originally from a big city in Southern California so the adjustment has been interesting indeed.In my life I have seen racism from both sides of the spectrum I have grown up in an area where it didn't matter what color you were as long as you worked hard and did your best and I now live in an area where the subject rarely comes up because well as I said there are 2 African American familys in town. I watched my grandfather , the kindest , gentlest man I know who owned a business with his best friend -a black man get Alzheimer's and begin to speak about blacks in a way that made me cringe..until the day he died -never knowing that he had forgotten his best man..I am watching it happen to my mother now as she has gotten the disease as well. These people raised me I love them dearly do I denounce them? No..do I agree with them no...My stepfather who told me if I ever married a ( insert derogatory comment here) he would never walk me down the aisle ,and when I married my Native American husband..he wasn't there. A neighbor comes to me and says she can't believe her son brought the black boy home to play without asking and I think- what?How? and I don't speak to her again...Oh this racism it brings tears to my eyes and I think this will never change- there is no hope...things will be like this forever, each generation raised by the past and their heads filled with these terrible lies and hate....
and then
my nine year old comes home
and he asks me if his buddy can come over and play
and I say sure...but I say I don't know if I know who this friend is
and he says sure you do mom..he's the kid with the glasses.

and the kid with the glasses comes over
and he is black
and my son didn't notice
he didn't care

and I think maybe there is hope , maybe there is a generation of change..maybe I am raising part of that right now
Maybe it is our responsibility to look past what we were taught and how we were raised
to put aside our own prejudices regardless of our color
and just raise better Americans...better people

Ferraro's ouster is appropriate because the comments keep stirring the race pot, even if she is not a white supremacist. Aside from being completely illogical, they are demeaning and those tactics are what he objects to. If Samantha Power can be dismissed for calling Hillary a monster, why shouldn't Geraldine Ferraro get the axe for calling Barack a token black candidate?

Niels wrote, "If he has never called Ferraro a racist, how can saying she is not in any way be contradictory?"

His campaign (who are paid by him) said it and said Hillary should ask her to step down, which she didn't. Campaigns are representatives of him. Just like the looney tune that called Hillary a "monster" and who was asked to step down.

If that is not flip-flopping I don't know what that is.

"well i guess murtha did not buy obamas lies like the media did,murtha's smart enough to see the lies obama told on friday night."

What a brilliant comment!!!!

The ignorance of 90% of the posters here can be attested to by the above comment.

It is certainly fitting that Hillary Clinton, who has been doing her best to match Bush in the "I've never met a lie I couldn't tell" department, receives the endorsement of one the most corrupt Congresspersons in the House.

The mythically heroic Murtha - for being the first in the House to stand up and oppose the war - is one of the most crooked, double-dealers around.

You are welcome to him, Hillary.

Jason stated:

"Regarding Senator Ferraro, it is Obama himself who plays the race card. He all but eviscerated Ferraro for her on target remarks when in actuality she could have lifted them from the pages of his senate website.

"Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race. If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?"

Thanks, Jason, and you did this without referring to Pat Buchanan, Playing by Obama Rules." LOL Kudoos

Melinda, you mentioned Jesse Jackson as an advisor to the Clintons right?

You do realize they are different races right?

It seems to me that you're the racist for even comparing that as to being a problem in your post.

Can someone provide quotes to back their repeated claims that Obama is flip-flopping?

If he has never called Ferraro a racist, how can saying she is not in any way be contradictory?

Being racist or just plain offensive, Ferraros words were way out of line and Clinton made a bad decision by not distancing herself from them right away. This played right into the hipocracy of her campaign - calling for Obama to both reject and denounce every ever so slightly offensive remark by any ever so slightly campaign-related individual while not applying the same ethical standards to her own campaign.

Be reasonable. Judge Obama on his own merits and words, not on distorted propaganda by people who dislike him. Do the same to Clinton and McCain and go make an educated decision.

If you have not been in church and heard something you totally disagree with then you probably don't attend to often. If you haven't heard relatives say things with racial bias or religious bias that make you cringe you haven't lived too long. I am not necessairly an Obama supporter but I can understand why he stayed in his church. If we now are going to look at everything our ministers have said and analyze same - then the Clintons who have used Jessie Jackson as a religious advisor are then to be accused of supporting all the incindary things he has said. Or we could hold Hillary accountible for her husbands not knowing what sex is. And all the presidents who have had Billy Graham as a religious advisor can be held accountible for all the things he has said that are divisive. Bottom line - stop holding others accountible for what others say. Reality is that you cannot control others mouths. You can fire them after the fact - but their quotes still linger. You can denounce what they have said but people still remember. We need to focus on the person in the here and now and make our judgements accordingly.

In terms of his speech, He said he cringed, but I'm betting he did more than that. Those remarks had to cut deep…His grandmother -- his surrogate mother at that point -- rejected the black man he was becoming. The anger Obama heard in Rev. Wright's church may not have felt so alien after all.

He also said, "Given my background, my politics, and my professed values and ideals, there will no doubt be those for whom my statements of condemnation are not enough,” Obama said, adding that “never once in my conversations with [Wright] have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms.” Is that consistent with the admission that Obama knew of Wright’s outrageous comments? It seems impossible that one can coexist with the other.

Regarding Senator Ferraro, it is Obama himself who plays the race card. He all but eviscerated Ferraro for her on target remarks when in actuality she could have lifted them from the pages of his senate website.

"Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race. If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?"

Will: Waiting for an answer to how we are to beleive that Rev. Wright did not say racist things to him in priviate but his gradmother did. Did he not say that he had never heard such things in church now he says he did. One can be proven but one can not. So he admits to the one that can be proven and denies the one that can not be proven. He glady tells us his gradmother prejudices but not the prejudices of his friend and mentor wright. I don't think that was a fair thing to do to ones grandmother. Sorry if that offend you!

It amazes how some people here jump at the slightest perceived racism from blacks as if to say "ah ha you too are racist!" as if to say now we're even! they take it and stretch it to the limit. Rev wright has definitely said things you don't wanna hear, you could condemn him for being unpatriotic, but I don't see the racism in his words. A black person just like a white person could be offended at his perceived attack on America, so how would that make it racist if it's only unpatriotic? How is it that if you say bad thing against america that equal saying things against whites? I don't get it. is america = white, so against america = against white? Please explain that to me.

PS: I am sure none of you here cares as much about her granny than he does so I don't think any of you should say anything about his granny.

More damage control from the Obama camp. I will credit him for saying her comments weren't racist to begin with, rather calling the comments 'patently absurd.'

The comments in this interview are more attempts to patch things up with the American people because of the Rev. Wright comments and he's back-peddling by smoothing over the Ferraro incident so that we might more expeditiously get over his.

Will: You noticed that he denounced his grandmother saying that she said racist things. Yet Obama says that he never heard the good Rev. Wright make any racist remarks? Thats why I say the threw him gramdmother under the train. This about Wright not his gradmother! This controversy started because these hate filled sermons were made public and the outrage of the american people ensued. In order to calm the fears of white america he gives a speech that in no way denounced the man who gave them. The impression that he left was that his gradmother said racist things to him but Wright never did. I and many americans find that to be incredulous!

"I know; I posted it and never thought I would have such an occasion."

You support his thoughts on this one occasion? Riiight!

Pat's insights are subjective at best and resonate from the republican stance that Democrats vote from their bleeding hearts and republicans make sound judgments. I could break his article down, but you obviously have been sold on his ideals.

The Audacity of Hate; Barack Obama’s Trinity United Church of Christ’s Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A Wright with his Racist Sermons & his Racist Supporters.

Imagine if Hillary Clinton’s church proclaimed on its website that it is “unashamedly white.” The media would pounce, and Clinton’s presidential candidacy would be over. Yet that is exactly what Barack Obama’s church says on its web site — except in reverse.

"Wright on Israel: "The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.

For the same reason why I would not vote for any candidate that attended The David Duke Church of Christ is the same reason why I cannot vote for anyone who sat for twenty (20) years in the Trinity united Church of Christ.

Obama's a hypocrite, but Ferarro's a "realist"? We blow off and excuse the majority ( of which I am one_) when they highlight race as just poorly chosen words or worse "realism" (oh the irony). But when a black man (is this term anachronistic?) asks us to move beyond it, he's hypocritical and politically motivated.I think those who criticize Obama's earnest call for unity are secretly now gratified to have a caricature of retired black preacher to hold up as their scapegoat for the our collective failure to have moved further from the 1960's when that man's soul came of age.

"You remember the movie through momma from the train. Yestedy Mr. Obama through his gradmother under the train. While he said that he could not denounce Rev. Wright the man he could denounce his grandmother the woman. What does this say about him as a man?"

Why is it necessary for you to lie?

He said...

"I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

And yet, you say...

"While he said that he could not denounce Rev. Wright the man he could denounce his grandmother the woman."

Get real!

dl:

"You all are quoting PAT BUCHANAN. oy"

I know; I posted it and never thought I would have such an occasion. Read the article, dl. Buchana hits it head on! Maybe it takes a conservative Republican to candidly speak about what happened to Ferraro. The Dem party elders were silent. They were, in the words of Pat Buchanan, "Playing by Obama's rules."

TOH: He now admits that he heard some of this in church because he knows that someone some day will have