Obama's Church Blames Media

Then you must be a McCain supporter, because I certainly don't see any "integrity" in Hillary's using the race card. And when has she ever shown any exceptional evidence of good judgment? And what, if anything has she ever been an outstanding "leader" of? A tea party? She cries and wins New Hampshire. She whines and wins Ohio. Maybe she should just put out an ad of her crying and whining and we can go ahead and anoint her Queen.
If Obama is guilty by association, then it stands to reason that Hillary is guilty by association when it comes to her husband. I find it hard to believe that she didn't know about all of his extra-marital affairs through the years. What kind of "integrity and judgment" was involved there?
And will that be her foreign policy, to cry and whine if she can't get her way?
Give me a break!
I have nothing against a woman being President. But just about any other woman in America would be a better President than Hillary Clinton.
She wants it too badly, for all the wrong reasons.

With all due respect to my fellow Americans, I think you are alittle confused about Dr. Wright's so-called rhetoric for the following reasons.

First, we must understand that Dr Wright was talking to a specific body of people, which, at the time stated, were his parishioners. He was not speaking to a general body of people comprising multicultural experiences; he was not gloating about America’s hardships following 911; he was not "stumping" for political office, nor, a professed revolutionary advocating anarchy. Instead, like so many other African American ministers giving voice to the voiceless in the mainstream media, he was speaking to what most of us have always known and say to each other on many occasions of wrong doing from the sublime to the ridiculous: “What goes around comes around.” And this, I believe, is what the people were “jumping for joy about” as so many of you have sadly misunderstood. It was the empathy, not a hatred for America or white folks, flowing between a group of people who has suffered greatly amid the hypocrisy engendered by the founding fathers of this country. And, who, in many ways, are still feeling disenfranchised, remember Katrina?
Kindly remember that America also belongs to us, the African American, and we have the same right to criticize her when she is wrong and praise her when she is right, as do other Americans of international dissent. We also have the right to reclaim our history, also ignored in mainstream society, and be proud of our African heritage without being misjudged as hating America and white folks in particular. When I wear African attire or listen to African music, I am truly happy and enjoying the moment, thus hardly consumed with hatred for anyone. Must of us will fight for our homeland when attacked and have proved it by dying in its past wars; sadly, only to come home and face bigotry and hatefulness yet again. Still, historically, we African-Americans have continued to love American and hope for the best.
Suffice it to say only a fool would wish harm to his or her country, a place called home. Think about it.
Next, in my opinion, Rev. Wright, being a minister of God, was also speaking about the natural law of Cause and Effect (aka, Karma) which engenders all of creation. Most of us don’t give thought to such subliminal laws supporting our existence here on Earth, still they exist and we live on. Thus, it is encumbered upon all ministers of the gospel to teach this, and give examples from time to time no matter how uncomfortable it may be. For it is only by learning from our mistakes that we grow to appreciate this universal law and seek to follow it in all aspects of our lives. This, I believe, is what is truly behind the old adage: Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
Of course, I do understand the fear behind all of this, a fear born out of ignorance of God’s laws. If we truly understood His law, which only engenders love and prosperity, we would not fear the so-called wrath of God or His laws. My friends, God does not punish us, we do that to our selves thru ignorance of His laws of creation. God loves us and wants us to be happy and free. A short expedient to knowing this is to practice forgiveness whenever we feel fear or hatred in our hearts. For it is through forgiveness that we obtain real vision and finally understand what has been troubling us in all respects. And so we learn to lean not upon your own understandings but first seek the truth thru prayer and our willingness to forgive. Peace to all.

I want a president who has wise judgment and integrity. Sen. Obama's 20-year association with Rev. Wright, and his claim of ignorance of Rev. Wright's views show his serious lack of judgment to be the Commander-in-Chief. Rev. Wright's view is well known, to claim that he did not hear them is a betryal of his integrity.

Since my original posting was removed for some reason, I will say it again. The only reason we're hearing about this is because Hillary and her campaign have dug it up and given it to the media. It's just another part of her racial propaganda campaign against Obama. This woman will do anything to become president. Including taking money from criminals and lobbyists, staying with her cheating, lying husband to further her political ambitions, using race baiting and racial propaganda because she's behind in the primaries and tearing the democratic party apart in the process.
All because she can't stand to lose. Well, I've got news for Hillary. If she somehow cheats Obama out of the nomination, McCain will bury her in so much dirt from hers and Bill's past that she'll be gasping for air before the general election is halfway over. You will lose, Hillary!
You should concede the nomination to Obama now and stop your slime bucket excuse for a campaign and let us unite the Democratic party and get on with what really needs to be done: Electing Obama as our next President! Go Obama! Yes we can!

And by the way, not that it should matter, but I'm a 56 year old, blue collar white male. And I think Obama is exactly the man we need in the White House!

How many times have you heard, "Who is Obama"? Never heard of him. Well, only if you lived in his state. So now we are hearing about who he is, why not? Don't you want to know what his beliefs are, his moral fiber, his total embodied make up of what makes him who he is today? Okay, now we don't like what we are hearing about who he associates with, takes money from, & who his mentors are. We are getting to know the unknown & it tastes down right nasty. What is wrong with calling himself an American? Why is it Black American? He says he has no color barriers. But his language & religion says he does. Why aren't we all Americans. Oh, hi I am German, Swedish, Danish, Norweigan American. I don't have a pastor condeming other races, I have always been proud to be an American & I think I know who is Obama now. Thank God for that.

I LOVE America, and I love Dr. Wright and I support Obama. I am a Christian and I am African American and I understand the disappointment Dr. Wright feels, in his many years of pastoring a people who are in many ways are forgotten about. He states the obvious, God is no-more on America's side as He is on an Islamic countries. America, was founded on a superiority lie carried over from Europe. And we are still facing this complex. Not to say, some African Americans are not racist, but what I am saying, if God is to bless America, he has to apologize to many in this world for the dogmatism of arrogant America. So, I support Obama and I support Dr. Wrights, statement, "God damn America" for it's insistance on saying it is right and everyone else is wrong. The only person right is Jesus and we certainly don't see Him in the current administrations life, although they say they are Christians. Maybe Obama, can bring Jesus back to America!

I am white. I'm sure I don't fully understand the black mind. We will never eliminate hate and prejudice from the hearts of all people. Sin is in our (black and white) DNA. ABC reported something they thought was newsworthy. I commend them for it. They weren't trashing the church or saying there's nothing good about Pastor Wright. And I must say a lot of blacks don't understand the white mind. If Pastor Wright thinks God should damn America (does he only mean white Americans?) for its sins, what does he suppose God should do about his own sins? Yes, white America has many flaws, but it also has much to commend itself. God will sort through all that. Black America also has many flaws, and much to commend itself. I think Pastor Wright's rhetoric divides more than it unites. I think his church's statement also divides. Please show some of the humilty Martin Luther King and Jesus displayed. Admit the mistake. It's only admitting you're human.

I recommend the "Reverend" and I use the term loosely, Wright go and talk to Dr. Tony Evans or any of the other true Evangelical Black Christian Leaders about where he stands and see if they don't refer to Matthew 18 for him. If you really want to know about black evangelical christians read Dr. Evans book, "Let's Get to Know Each Other: What White Christians Should Know about Black Christians" He is no better than the snake oil preachers who preach a prosperity gospel in contradiction to the Bible.

As a resident of Chicago and a member of
a large apostolic chruch on the south-
side, I have in the past attended chruches where white people and government
bashing seemed to apease the congregation. Because I did not need
this to make me feel better (but found
it rather demeaning);I continued to
search for a chruch where the gospel was being taught. God's Words are the most healing. I can understand why a young community organizer might affliate himself with Rev. Wright's type of ministry because there's where those most in need of the types of services and information he brings can be found.Please believe that when I sat
in on these ranting types of sermons I was not in agreement with the those hateful and distastful statements and
refused to add my "amen". However, some find these ministries provide a kind of bonding "cultural ceremony" that relieves the frustration of life and blames others for their status in life.

I am really amazed by all of the outrageaously ignorant people who live in this country. Most white people really do not understand what it is like to be black in america. Many prominent black americans who think they have crossed over into white acceptance are quickly reminded by white people that they are not one of them. Case in point, Tiger Woods wins his first Masters in Golf and they make racist comments about not having "chicken and collard greens" for the meal. Or Oprah Winfrey being denied entry in an upscale retail establishment because she's black, and being told they are "closed", only to later apoligize to her when they realized who they had just denied. Or Danny Glover having a hard time catching a taxi in Manhattan. Or the many investigative reports done by 20/20 that exposes redlining in the housing market, or disparate treatment between whites and blacks in hiring, retail establishments, etc. I have been followed while shopping in so-called, upscale establishments. I was a sophomore in college and when I wanted to switch my major from biology, yes, thats right, biology, to an economics major, the faculty advisor told me during our consultation that "most people like you do better with business majors". I was stunned to say the least. I insisted i wanted to be an economics major and after he, a white man, saw that I was not changing my mind, he relented. This happened at a private catholic college that I got accepted into based on my SAT's and my transcript. No affirmative action. I was a very smart advanced kid. I was accepted on my merits. So for all you white people out there who want to believe that america is so color blind, get real, we are not there yet. And for all those people out there who still think that black people should "get over" slavery, i would like those same people to tell the jews to "get over" the holocaust. We accept the jews views and outrage about the holocaust but if a black person speaks out against slavery, they are somehow a "radical" or a "black nationalist", well too bad, if the jews want us to "never forget" the holocaust, then i as a black female want america, to "never forget" slavery and the aftermath. Many people forget that after the holocaust, the jews left germany and europe. The established the state of Israel. Well, us black americans still lived here in america with our former enslavers. We still had to face over a century of disenfranchisement. And unfortunately, we still face it today. So if you do not support Obama, fine. But talk about the issues, not his pastor, or other non-important issues. I voted for Barack Obama because I would like to see him become president, not because he's black. And when Bill Clinton was running for president, I voted for him. I didn't know anything about him other than what the media put out there, but I wanted my vote to be for "change" and so I took a leap of faith and voted for Bill Clinton. Now because people are voting for Obama, it is a big deal. If Hillary is qualified to be president, than Barack Obama is certainly qualified, lest not forget who has been in office these last 8 years, Bush. Now if Bush can run the country, than I am more than satisfied that Obama could run the country. Find another topic to discuss. Get a life and stop worrying about candidates personal lives. When I needed a lung specialist last december, I could have cared less if he cheated on his wife, or if he had a so-called radical preacher, i wanted him to fix my lungs. I wanted a specialist who was the best at his craft. That is the point of electing a president. Not who he sleeps with or who pastors his church. If these are the issues that keep you up at night then you have a very petty dissatisfied life.

"In 1996, while running for re-election, Bill Clinton sent out a mass mailing to friends and prospective donors—including one to the Nation of Islam. In it, he invited Claudette Muhammad, who at the time was chief of protocol, to be on his steering committee. "It is my way of saying thank you for your past friendship and it is my way of asking you to join me in this new campaign," he wrote. Muhammad reprinted the letter in a memoir; a spokesman for Clinton declined to comment"

This was before 911 and Bill Clinton has nothing to do with what Barrack pastor said. He is not running for president so why should what he in 96 matter?

Our forefathers believed in the quote "seperation of church &state", not as a mena to keep the governmnet free from belief systems. All people have some belief system, even aetheists believe in nothing. the reasoning was that kings, governors, lords etc etc had polluted the church and used it as a political gain far too often in Europe. we are now faced wit hthe sad reality that the same thing has taken place in many churches in America. Too often people rally their church numbers together to support a politician. Jesus said "..my Fathers house shall be a house of prayer!" as he ran out those who were only at the temple for money. We in america have gone far astray from a personal relationship with God as out father. It is a sad tragedy that this pastor would succumb to politics and neglect the more importatn issue, and that is the Kingdom of Heaven. When Israel sought a king, God gave them a king and a warning in the book of Samuel. A king is a person who can only be a person. Church is for God. a house of prayer, a place were we can personally know God as Father. It is sad to see a pastor forget that.

to all the readers: Politics and religion don't mix and one will burn the other. and for pastor wright and his comments I would tell him stick to what you do best and leave politics to politicians and just serve god. Pastor Wright's comments are not acceptable by any means or shape, regardless of his achievements or how many years he served UCC; Just Serve God and spread the word of love and peace, the real message of Jesus Christ.

Barak is no JFK, MLK or anyone like that.

Words do matter and Rev Wrigt says it all.

Actions speak louder than words.

The act of Barak sitting and listening to Wright words for 20 years speak louder than any of Baraks boring speechs.

Baraks actions of 20 years speak directly to his judgement - he has poor judgement or is so unaware of what is going on around him that Rezko and Wright must have snowed him into thinking they were good people.

Barak - not ready for prime time president.

Michelle - not proud of America and yet she would be first lady? of a country she does not like?

Republicans - havinga field day with this one. Thanks Barak, there goes the election.

WOW- and you all talk about Rev. Wright being hateful- this has been some of the most hateful language I have heard in a while. You are basing your judgement on Barak based on something his pastor said -a 20 second sound bite(which Barak says he has denounced). The way some of the comments are saying- it sounds like everyone should be judged based on something one of their friends, family, co-worker or boss says. People need to listen to what the candidates say- not what others who might associate with them say. People are also judging Rev. Wright on one or two sermons and not a lifetime of change for the positive in so many people's lives. America- realize we live in a country that has some hateful people and that no matter who wins, there will still be some people who dislike, blacks, whites, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Gays, Women and the list goes on- but take a moment and think for your self and not get caught up in media negative hype.

"....Kennedy got through his guilty by association and so will Obama..."

Kennedy did have the pope or a catholic priest on his campaign staff. Rev Wright was part of Obama's campaign until he resigned 2 days ago!

Sue's comments are right on target. I too am a mother of 3 bi-racial children. For the past 30-plus years, we have attended predominately black churces as well as churches with a mixed congregation. There have been many exhillerating sermons given - but I have never heard hatred preached in this way in church. My son is an activist, and many of his views are critical of American politics and history. But there is a time and place for those criticisms. As Americans, we expect our President to be superior to the common man in intelligence, and above the fray in all social situations. Senator Obama was not a "member in passing" at this church. He has lived the most important events of his and his family's lives within the walls of this church - as a close friend of this pastor. For him to say he was "unaware" of the attitudes of the pastor is an insult to the intelligence all of the American people. After all of his eloquent speeches and "awareness", suddenly he has no knowledge of what was going on for the last 20 years? You can't hear this every Sunday and not agree with it. Like the other comments about the friend with a prostitite..is Obama claiming "some of his best friends are racist?" Anyone with the intelligence that Obama claims to have who didn't agree would have stood up to disagree, or taken their family to a new church. Shame on him, and shame on us if we don't wake up. Everything needs to be shouted out by us citizens here and now. We all know that if the criticism comes from Hillary Clinton or any of her campaign, they will be considered "racist" comments, yet when Obama's camp makes comments, they are "shedding the light". It is not shedding light on our children is not teaching them to hate in church. When I stand up and salute the flag, or say the pledge of allegiance, it is to show my pride in this country for all of the good things it represents. To me, America is not defined by the Bush/Cheyneys, Black Nationalism or any other group that does not represent liberty and justice for ALL. Are there events in our history that should have never happened? Absolutely. Are there things that need to be fixed? Positively. As resfreshing as it would be after the last 8 years, I am not willing to settle for a President merely because he is able to speak eloquently in public. Wright is no MLK, and Obama is no President. The chickens truly are coming home, and they have droppings on their feet.

theres hate...and now there is arrogant hate....and now support of that hate....find your way and be judged....

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"...The church (Obama's) has successfully helped disadvantaged people in the community and elsewhere. Many would not be alive or living with dignity if not for the generous work of the church....."

So has Hezbollah in Lebanon, does that make them less radical?

Obama and his racist, anti-American preacher are no good for the U. S.