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Obama's Grandmama

March 31, 2008 7:19 AM

The Honolulu Advertiser fleshes out the tale of Madelyn Dunham, 85, the maternal grandmother of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, who in December 1970 was named one of the first two female vice presidents at Bank of Hawaii.

Dunham may be best known to voters as the woman Obama referenced in his race speech, when he said of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother — a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed her by on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

Some people saw that as Obama making a moral equivalence and callously throwing his grandmother under the bus. Which, of course, Obama denies, saying he was just talking honestly about race.

- jpt

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Obama's family is a mystery. I did not know he had any siblings at all until one

of the cable news networks interviewed a sister in Hawaii who looks nothing like him, not that she should but it was interesting. This was before the Dem. primaries in Hawaii.
I will not be voting for Obama either should he get the nod and it has nothing to do with "race" but it has everything to do with lack of media scrutiny, the way I saw the chaos in our caucus site here in Johnson Co., Ks. and heard about what happened at other sites in the county. I personally think people came in from across the state line (Mo. is next door) and overwhelmed the caucuses. A friend (who was an Obama supporter) said at her caucus site, they waited outside for more that an hour in frigid temperatures with raining ice and snow coming down. When they finally got inside, there was no list of registered voters for the site. They were asked if they were registered voters (no I. D.) required and who they were for. At our site, it took about 3 hours to caucus and my husband was not on their list of registered voters and he had to register that night. We have lived in the same house now for l7 years and have voted in presidential elections the entire time we have lived here. We were lucky, however, because we at least had a warm, dry, building to wait in.
Of course, it's no secret who the caucuses favor, the very young with no family obligation, and the upper class who have more disposable time on their hands. How many of Obama's pledged delegates and popular votes came from caucus states? It's rather interesting to me that Hillary Clinton won in Texas by several percentage points but Obama beat her in the caucuses. If it was anything like it was around here, how many of those caucus wins were true wins and how many were Obama supporters again overwhelming the caucus sites so chaos reigned?
Once Obama gets any scrutiny at all, he certainly looks like "politics as usual" and sometimes worse as evidenced by the Rev. Wright scandal. I have voted Democratic all my life when it came to the Presidential elections, but if Hillary doesn't get the Dems nomination, I'm not sure what I will do. I might write her in, if I think it will do any good - otherwise I will vote for McCain, not because I agree with his policies but the thought of Obama, his Church, and Rev. Wright scares me. If the reverse were true and Clinton or any of the other Democratic candidates had sat in a church for 20 years and listened to that kind of garbage preached from the pulpit, their candidacy would have been finished before it started. The arrogance of this man and his followers is amazing. I have went to various blog sites put out by mainstream media and the gutter language, the personal attacks on the Clintons, is simply over the top and all too often, it is the Obama supporters who are guilty of this. It sickens my soul. What has the Democratic Party become?

Posted by: Cathy | Apr 1, 2008 6:47:36 PM

PLEASE NOTE; WHY I APPRECIATED OBAMA'S REFERENCE TO HIS GRANDMOTHER, IT MADE ME THINK OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE GREAT PEOPLE, BUT HAVE MADE COMMENTS ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE WHICH ARE LESS THAN FLATTERING. I CAN EVEN INCLUDE MYSELF IN THAT GROUP. AS A CHILD GROWING UP IN THE SOUTH DURING THE 60s & 70's I HAD A VERY DIM VIEW OF MOST WHITES!!
I DON'T SEE HIS GRANDMOTHER AS A BAD PERSON; THE FACT OF THE "CLUTCHING " THE PURSE PHENOM IS NOT NEW AND UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE SEEN BLACK FOLK DO IT TOO! GUESS WHAT, THAT'S NOT RIGHT EITHER! PEOPLE HAVE REACTED TO ME IN THAT WAY WHEN I WAS YOUNGER; USUALLY WHITES; AND AS A YOUNG PERSON YOUR FEELINGS BECOME BRUISED. FORTUNATELY, I HAVE GROWN UP AND I AM ABLE TO HANDLE THE UGLY POSTS I SEE ON THIS BLOG. WELL, JUST LIKE I HAD TO LEARN THAT NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE BAD; SOME OF YOU MAY NEED TO LEARN THE SAME ABOUT BOTH BLACK AND WHITE. AND, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH US HAVING AN HONEST MOMENT. MANY OF YOU BEFORE THE SO-CALLED WRIGHT CONTROVERSY WERE NOT OBAMA FANS, AND ARE NOW USING IT AS AN EXCUSE!

Posted by: AGBI | Apr 1, 2008 12:01:11 PM

I have to add this. My Black friends laughted at his USING his Grandmother being afraid of a Black man on the street.
They pointed out that Black on Black crime has been out of control & very much a central issue in the Black communities for several years.
They said they'd cross the street too! Since Obama is this big "organizer from the SS of Chi-town" you'd think he'd be aware of that & not use it as a racial slur against a white person.

Posted by: Sophia | Apr 1, 2008 5:40:09 AM

You just have to love the "spin". He's from a teenage Mom.(she was married, Obama Sr. chose to leave her behind)
He is tough & street savy) The "HOOD" ala a fancy prep-school?
Yes, it is the "old Okey-doke". We're being Bamboozeled for sure.
It would not surprise me that he keeps her under lock & key so media can't talk with her.
Like when all hell broke loose with Rev. Wright. All of a sudden (did you notice the smug smile)the Rev is on a"cruise" & can't be reached. Then he's going to speak in Tampa only days later, then it's canceled. Then he went to celebrate Maya's birthday & now the Trinity website is being "scrubbed"

Obama is a man who has been using a lot of people to get what he wants, for his own greed & power. There is going to be a shocker for many people when his supporters discover who they are really enabling at the cost of our country.

Posted by: Sophia | Apr 1, 2008 5:28:00 AM

I read the stories that are running in Hawaii...seems to me that Obama's "typical white" grandmother was not so typical after all.

She was a trailblazer and a woman who lived outside the box. A success in a man's world. She bumped that glass ceiling. Someone who he could be proud of. The woman who was there to raise him for years when his mother was not.

I wonder if he downplayed her career in his autobiography.

Somehow I think in most things Obama is looking for the "better fairytale". The truth is Obama is not a fairytale because of his war stance or the fact that he is a Black candidate.

The fairytale is the Cinderella story that Obama wrote himself and continues to sell to America.

Speaking as a "typical white" grandmother with a bi-racial grandson I don't care for the House of cards Obama has built.

Posted by: Jackie | Apr 1, 2008 4:52:49 AM

if he was going to contrast people, and one of the people being used was a relative, his grandmother, perhaps the black racist used should have been his wife.

Posted by: fedup | Apr 1, 2008 4:29:43 AM

Regardless of what these other posts say, racism from whites (coming from Obama's Grandmother or from anyone else) is no different from racism from blacks (from rev. Wright or anyone else). I say this as a white man.

Obama had the right to make the comparison. He was making the point that even his own family has problems and he should be commended for his honesty. Pretending that Obama's grandmother was perfect and never made those statements does not help us to understand the situation.

People who are bashing Obama are not being logical but simply showing their emotional hatred against him.

Posted by: Josh | Apr 1, 2008 3:07:16 AM

Frankly, I am irked with all these political clowns. Regarding Obama, just the fact that he resides in a house worth approximately 1.65 million dollars automatically disqualifies him in my book. How many comfortable, modest homes would 1.65 million dollars buy for some of the unfortunate people who lost everything in the wake of Katrina? Let's not leave the Clinton's out either. I am aware that Billy Boy got a rather hefty advance for his memoirs. I haven't even probed into McCain's real estate holdings or financial status. Wake up people of America. These clowns are duping us. This has nothing to do with race.

Posted by: Fitz | Mar 31, 2008 7:34:27 PM

In as much as people try to bring Obama down, he will grow strong in it, reading all the write here, it only shows how people are so biased about the simple thruth of life, they are all filled wiht hate, but one thing is sure, OBAMA WILL COME OUT STRONG.

Posted by: easyphilips | Mar 31, 2008 6:01:53 PM

Yes, He tossed her under the bus, and she gladly went,For his sake. Did she also help pay for his education?? Obama is a walking Contradiction.

Posted by: Tom H | Mar 31, 2008 5:15:48 PM

People are so full of hate. So quick to think people are scheming. Most of this is coming from the media. They tell the same stories over and over again to sensationalize everything. No wonder the candidates can't stick to the issues. The public is so gullible, wanting to absorb every single thing that is in the media, that when a candidate tries to be honest, we can't tell when he or she is really telling the truth and we really don't seem to want to hear the truth. Doesn't anyone want to hear honesty anymore. No matter what race or political background we come from, we really aren't that different. People should really stop and think about that!

Posted by: Annoyed | Mar 31, 2008 4:22:17 PM

By the way, Obama inflated his father's role in the Kenyan government back when he was interviewed by the N.Y. Times in 1990 following his election as President of the Harvard Law Review. He told the interviewer that his father was a "Finance Minister" in Kenya prior to his death. He wasn't, he was a bureaucrat who worked in the Finance Ministry. When he lied, he was a 28 year old man - fairly sophisticated and would have been expected to know that "Finance Minister" is the same as a cabinet level Secretary of _________(here, maybe Treasury, or Chairman of the Federal Reserve?

You can locate the story on the web (unless that too has been scrubbed by TEAMOBAMA). My question is why did he feel he had to lie? Wasn't he comfortable in his own skin? Why did he feel he had to impress his Harvard friends? He didn't seem to give his classmates any credit if he felt he had to lie about his background.

Posted by: s. valenti | Mar 31, 2008 4:10:03 PM

Get Out Obama. You are a liar, a user and a fraud.

Posted by: proud american | Mar 31, 2008 4:02:50 PM

to a "Typical White Woman...." It's clear from this article that Obama had nothing to do with it (unlike the puff piece he authorized about his mother in law and her contribution to their childcare needs - Boston Globe 3/29/08).

I can't stand Obama, but, I really liked the portrait that emerged of his grandmother. I wonder why he hasn't spoken more about the strengths that are so obvious from this article. He really does perplex me! Most people would proudly introduce their grandparents' story - they've lived a part of history from the World War 2 through many social changes. I'm guessing that we don't see her because she might be frail. But to not introduce her story, has me wondering.

(Now of course we'll see some "puff piece" put out by the marketing people of his campaign. They did something similar when people started asking questions about his mother, the anthropologist.

There is a lot about Obama that we don't know. We seem to only learn what he wants us to know. Why is that?

Posted by: s. valenti | Mar 31, 2008 3:59:29 PM

Vice President of a Bank in Hawaii? Wow Obama, you must really relate to our half black, harsh upbringing here in the main land. NOT!

Posted by: irma | Mar 31, 2008 3:39:36 PM

just exactly how many black men are wandering the streets of honolulu anyway? the whole thing is probably made up like about half of what he says is

Posted by: tex | Mar 31, 2008 3:00:56 PM

Obama didn't throw his grandmother under the bus. He exaggerated a situation he thought would buy him time. It worked. None of the people in his circle who made the statements causing the uproar are allowed anywhere near a microphone. That is working too.

The problem is, it won't work all the way to November much less for four years.

He had a normal upper middle class childhood and found himself feeling guilty about that. Why? Ask him. He has led a very successful life but is still telling us about his pain filled background of self-loathing and doubt? Why? Ask him.

In fact, this man is not a race candidate. In the mixed neighborhood I grew up in, the blacks would have referred to him as an 'oreo' and me as 'buttermilk'. Those names stick hard and hurt but we raise ourselves above them and move on because we learn that the only names that matter are the ones we call ourselves. The beliefs that matter are the ones we choose.

Justice is not found in nature. It is found in the human heart and known by the choices of the heart.

Obama didn't move on. He married, embraced his wife's faith and church. He chose a base of political support that chooses to preach Black Liberation Theology. Obama can't speak to those beliefs so he puts them down as 60s rhetoric but they still are the tightly held beliefs of his base in Chicago.

Obama is a man with demons. He needs to work those out and the conversation will help. But he can't be doing that and running the country at a time of economic crisis and threats to our security. Give him some time and one day he might be ready for this.

But that time is not now. He is unelectable.

Posted by: len | Mar 31, 2008 2:36:41 PM

Indigo - A few things you may have missed, the story about his grandma was a straight out lie, his autobiography he wrote about the incident it was a aggressive panhandler that his grandma was afraid of not a black mane just walking down the street.

As far as Rev Wright it was at least 6 sermons they are talking about so far, and I am sure there are a whole lot more, just look at the website for the church before they changed it.

Also in Obamas book is that he wants to cleanse the white blood from him.

Posted by: spock | Mar 31, 2008 2:02:26 PM

Thus far, Granny has had no comment in being lumped in there with the reverend, in contrast to Geraldine Ferraro who wasn't reticent at all about speaking up on how wrong it was for Obama to mix her in there with Wright. Apparently, he stirred up some things in his racial speech that folks are still sniffing at. It still remains to be seen if the main ingredient, Wright, will remain a political liability. Perhaps this Wright controversy will be stewing a while longer. I do empathize that the reverend and his church still feel under the fire. Essentially, Obama cooked up a good one in putting his reverend on the campaign. Though it probably wasn't a recipe for disaster as it first appeared.

Posted by: katrina | Mar 31, 2008 1:51:44 PM

More than anything the grandma comment bothered me the most. Mrs. Dunham is the same age as my mother and probably in the same health. I don't believe a woman who took him in and loved him would say anything like that to him. I believe he not only threw her under the but but he out and out lied.

Posted by: Christine D | Mar 31, 2008 1:34:04 PM

For so many reasons I can't stand Hillary - one big one being how she led the charge to trash the women her husband molested - why women support her I'll never know. I was interested in Obama until I heard his pastor...how can anyone listen to that? It's sickening. Now I'm suspicious of his loyalties and think all his talk about "change" which I interpreted as an end to the racial divide, is nothing but talk.

I'm going to McCain...partly by default - but he is a true hero. He refused early release from the Hanoi Hilton because some fellow POWs had been there longer and should have been released before him. Compare that with HRC lying about sniper fire in Bosnia. Also, I think he'll screw up my life less than Hillary with her endless list of plans for every facet of our lives. And even though I was interested in Obama....I just can't vote for a guy who I'm now suspicious about.

Posted by: SuziQ | Mar 31, 2008 12:52:23 PM

Count me among those who believe that Barack's grandmother was not thrown under a bus [and among those who think "thrown under a bus" is a dumb turn of phrase].

I'm black and I grew up in the 70s, when white people would cross the street to get away from my brother. What he describes of his grandmother's experience of being afraid of a black man is not something unique to her. That's part of what he was saying. There were white people during the 60s and 70s who were still hearing echoes of a time before black people were still segregated, thought inferior. And all those people love their children. All those people love and want their families to prosper. Ethnic stereotypes are not the same as slurs. They can be simple mistaken impressions about an ethnic group based on old ideas.

As for the church? It's a *multiracial church*. If the two minutes of Rev. Wright ranting as has been shown were everything Rev. Wright ever had to say for that 20 year time period, I am beyond a shadow of a doubt certain that not only would Obama have walked, but the whole congregation would've gone with him.

In this day and age when the Jena 6 issue is less than a year old; in this day and age when you still hear stories of black people dragged behind white people's cars, or black teenagers being shot at for just driving down the wrong road after dark; or where the Klan can still operate openly -- it's no surprise the black community is angry at all of that. It's no surprise some of the white community is angry at all of that.

Accepting that we all, black, white or any other color, still have work to do is the important first step.

Posted by: Indigo | Mar 31, 2008 11:44:26 AM

In order to justify his relationship with Rev. Wright, Obama used his white grandmother to state , she was the typical white women. She who raise him, who make sure he had a good education, provided him with love and hope , while his mother did what ever she choose to do. Praising her would have been better, than praising a racist, anti-American and anti-Semitic, and calling him his mentor, when his white grandmother, trying hard to raise him right. Instead Obama choose to listen to the rhetoric or Rev. Wright, now we are to believe that some of that hatred is not deeply seeded in his heart.

Posted by: jp,michigan | Mar 31, 2008 11:42:53 AM

On January 30, 2007, Senator Barack Obama introduced the Iraq War De-escalation Act of 2007. In describing the proposed legislation he announced the goal of removing ALL U.S. combat forces from Iraq by March 31, 2008." Now, of course, he's moving away from his progressive history and is trying to move toward the middle by stating that he will leave troops in Iraq until ???? (fill in the blank)

An empty suit fluttering in the wind! And, his followers don't seem to notice that they're being abandoned with each utterance.

Posted by: Surelock Homes | Mar 31, 2008 11:23:00 AM

How can anyone really believe he threw his Grandmother under the bus? For God's sake...he speaks of her in an extremely loving and caring manner. You can tell he adored her and she played a extremely important role in his upbringing.

What we are really asking ourselves is how could a child of mixed race born back in the 60's, growing up in the 70's and 80's have come this far? Face it, during that time, the MOST discrimination this country had to offer was directed toward bi-racial children...not fully accepted by either community.

The only way Obama could have come this far is because of his strength, character and a strong belief in himself. His grandmother and grandfather did an outstanding job giving him love and guidance...he overcame the rest of it himself.

Anyone with a brain and can think would have to recognize it is just possible, in fact EXTREMELY probable that anyone of a mixed race who lived thru those times could actually understand the good and bad from both communities.

I for one am willing to take a chance and give this young man an opportunity to lead our nation. I think he is extraordinary. Why, well I think he really does get it...he gets all sides of it.

Posted by: A Typical White Woman from Texas | Mar 31, 2008 11:06:53 AM

Obama sacrificed his Grandmother on national TV because he was scrambling for a reason to justify his alliance with Wright. Problem is you can't compare Grandma's comments with the incessant hate speech broadcasted from the pulpit by Wright. Obama shows that he not only has a judgement problem but also has a serious lack of empathy.

Posted by: macondo | Mar 31, 2008 10:58:02 AM

I read this morning the Clinton camp is confident Sen. Obama will implode and she will ride in on a white horse and "rescue" the Dem nomination. I am one of those voters who is not identified by the spineless mainstream media as fitting Obama's base. I fit Clinton's. Funny, I am surrounded by many individuals who "fit" Clinton's base. Fortunately, we have the logic and experience of age and memory to recall all the antics and tactics historically employed by the Clintons' "weapons of mass entitlement".
While the media is beating to death the rrantings of an out-of-date minister, why don't they cover the Peter Paul v William and Hillary Clinton civil suit in LA Superior court? This country, in my opinion, is blindly moving away from democracy. It's time to end the Bush/Clinton dynastys. I am actually beginning to believe some journalist fear for their careers, if not their lives, if they cross the Clinton machine. I am loyal to the democratic process, not a party. I value my vote. I have the ability to "spin" for myself. If the media is going to "spin" one candidate, "spin" them all.

Posted by: moxieme | Mar 31, 2008 10:56:15 AM

Well said MIMS NJ

I didn't see anyone in that story who sat around a "kitchen table" with Barack's grandmother dispute what Obama said.

I also don't think she was "thrown under a bus".

From that story, she seems like a good lady.

Posted by: CWatson | Mar 31, 2008 10:37:53 AM

When you will do anything to get elected, sacirficing your grandmama's reputation in nothing.

Posted by: Lynn | Mar 31, 2008 10:29:35 AM

Fred,

The information in the RCP has not yet recieved the attention of the MSM with the exception of Wright. Most people do not have the time to research candidates and rely MSM to vet them. Unfortunatly, MSM has not yet finished fawning over Barack. IF he gets the nomination, the republicans will surely make these issues front and center. Thereby making Barack unelectable.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Mar 31, 2008 10:24:30 AM

For those saying Hillary should be judged by her relatives are missing the point. Wright was not a relative, he was someone Obama CHOSE to be his mentor. I think the most important thing in Obama's choosing that church is the fact that he is exposing his daughters to this hate for white people and America. Obama is raising his daughters to believe they are victims without a fair shot, even though he and Michelle have prospered from the opportunites awarded them. It's one thing for Obama to use the church to get ahead politically but to expose his children to this hate is the ultimate in bad judgement.

Posted by: Firefighter | Mar 31, 2008 10:24:10 AM

SadStateOfAffairs,

you poor man. Everything in that RCP article is old stuff. Besides, nothing in there is as explosive as Wright's most inflammatory comments - that haven't hurt Obama one bit, on the contrary: today he has his biggest lead over Clinton so far in the national polls.

Posted by: fred | Mar 31, 2008 10:08:17 AM

What a nice story in that paper about Obama's 'tutu'. He has clearly always had strong, independent but loving and caring women around, I like that and it shows in his character and style.

The people who say he throw his grandma "under the bus" (let's forbid that idiot expression from now on) didn't get one clue about what he was talking about in his speech, and how. He embraced her, that's what he did.

But as someone wrote: that speech was so good because it has become an ink dot test. It awoke a lot of racism still there in people who'd never had admitted that they indeed are just that: racists. Now let Obama win and the healing begin.

Posted by: Brenda | Mar 31, 2008 10:04:11 AM

Hold a man responsible for his choices in his life? I have no problem with that sadstaeofaffairs BUT if we were to list Clintons I am afraid she will show MUCH less judgement. Let's start with last week's interview with the man responsible for airing ALL the dirty secrets of the Clinton years. No one else would let her use that arena to bring the pastor issue back up so she went to him...stinks. Lets go to Mark Richy that Bill pardoned......if you really want to make this a judgement call? and Clinton gets brought into this mess? Your going to be sorry.

Posted by: Brian | Mar 31, 2008 9:54:36 AM

SadStateofAffairs...you said:
These issues are very important as it pertains to Baracks judgement and character.
How about Clintons relatives? Her 2 brothers? Her Father? Shall we make her pay for their actions too? WE ALL KNOW the dirty stink those 3 people shed on her...shallwe ? Is that the measure you expect to hold Obama to? If so then her relatives are fair game and as in the election for delegates, she will lose.

Posted by: Sam | Mar 31, 2008 9:50:47 AM

Reggie,

I respectfully disagree. These issues are very important as it pertains to Baracks judgement and character. Two very important traits for one who seeks the most difficult job in the world and has the lives of millions to look after. If he doesn't have good judgement in his personal life, how on earth can he exhibit good judgement anywhere else in his life?

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Mar 31, 2008 9:45:05 AM

HILLARY CHEATS AGAIN. Tell Hillary to pay the bills to those poor small business owners in OHIO who helped to put up her campaign arrangements. What is her problem? Why cant she pay these folks, when she talks endlessly about helping them? Also, tell her to release those TAX RETURNS. Cheater!

Posted by: Dave | Mar 31, 2008 9:37:31 AM

You people need to grow up.
We have more important issues in this country than what some old retired preacher says.
CNN and Fox have you all caught up in something that is so irrelevant, in order to keep their ratings up.
How about gas prices, foreclosures, job loss due to NAFTA and corporate greed, our kids being taught to pass a test rather than what they need to be learning, 4000 dead in Iraq, millions without health insurance. Lets focus people, stop falling for the okee dope.

Posted by: Reggie | Mar 31, 2008 9:34:08 AM

Sheall we now drag all relatives of the 2 candidates into the race? For those supporting Obama I am certain there are ones that he would not want brought to light..though I know of none at this point. For Hillary? If they start with just her 2 brothers, she is in trouble...remember them? They were the ones "selling" pardons as Bill left office...not a good place for Camp Clinton to go at this point in the "keystone cop race" she is running.

Posted by: Sam | Mar 31, 2008 9:33:51 AM

You don't think he can win Miss M I sure do ad many ,many more Americans Damn relgion and color don't belong in this race look at te Congress,All shapes sizes and color.Does any one tell you how to raise your children????What schoool they should go to????What church they should go to?????If you go
to church>>>>How they should think ???This is getting out of hand and all you people who are against color and race are doing it.You should be prouddddd........

Posted by: h | Mar 31, 2008 9:14:19 AM

Obama has a sincere disrespect for white people which is why he is comfortable at TUCC. His own mother allowed him to come back to the US and stay with his Grandmother at the tender age of 10. I don't know of too many mother's who would let go of their child at such a very young age. I think he has deep physcological wounds from being abandon by his white mother which would explain his obsession with race.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Mar 31, 2008 9:06:48 AM

Anybody who is living in a mix family will understand what Obama is talking about. People do not want honest answer to a painful issue such as race, that is not the way to go. Let us talk about race, get out all the concerns from both sides and discuss it to find solutions. America will win discussions about race and become greater. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | Mar 31, 2008 8:56:15 AM

His grandmother sounds like a good, hard working and caring individual. Obama seems to suffer from selective memory. I DO NOT TRUST OBAMA AT ALL!

Posted by: tiffany | Mar 31, 2008 8:56:14 AM

Anybody who chose to raise his kids in a church which featured anti-American diatribes, kooky conspiracy theories, and anti-white rhetoric - all from the pulpit - isn't worthy of consideration for the presidency. His excuses for sitting there at Trinity U.C.C. under "Reverend" Wright for twenty years are pathetic. There certainly are many multi-cultural and multi-ethnic churches in the Chicago area - churches that preach a posive gospel message - he and Michelle could have chosen to go to. It shows lack of character and suspect motives.

Posted by: petee | Mar 31, 2008 8:51:15 AM

I'm so tired of this discussion about racism.He said this and she said that... Why don't we just let it go already.
There's no way Obama will win general if he's the democratic nominee. He gives good speech i'll give him that, but there's nothing else there.

Posted by: Missmadeleine2002 | Mar 31, 2008 8:44:44 AM

What happened to the poor single Mother who rasied him how many childhoods did this fake have in his private school and why was his grandmother rasing him where was his mother In an Islamic country with his radical half brother? Or how about David Frank Obama is a little to unknown for me. And to think I would have voted for him people need to do thier own research because our MSM is sadly lacking . To many little things just don't add up I would say Obama never has known a day of want in his life he is driven and it looks like his grooming for President started a long time ago.

Posted by: Bishop | Mar 31, 2008 8:37:11 AM

BARACK OBAMA STILL GETS MY VOTE. I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT A MAN WHO HAS RETIRED. HE HAS NOT MERRIT OR ANYTHING. THIS IS A MOOT POINT. IT IS DUMB. WHAT ABOUT HILLARY AND HER LYE. WHAT ABOUT MAJOR STUFF LIKE THAT.

Posted by: kendra | Mar 31, 2008 8:25:51 AM

I still find it amazing How obama took a hate felt message. someone Damning America. When every one was irate that someone could Damn their country. Upset that someone was preaching Hate for America in a church.

He evaded that and came back with a speech calling all white Americans racist.

He changed the subject took all eyes off the topic and turn it into pointing the finger at you and blaming you for being racist.

So It is not Un-American, It is not Anti-American, It is not lack of Patriotism when someone Damns America, That is obectionable according to Obama rules. But your racist. *Shrugs*

He did throw his grandmother under the train. He would of never said that if she were alive.


Then again this is a man who has lied on or about his friends so many times it is hard to keep tract of them all.

Can we believe anything he does say?

Posted by: seah | Mar 31, 2008 8:22:39 AM

Obama comparing his grandmother to that MINISTER went down a few notches in my book and to think I would have voted for him, IF he had received the Democratic Nomination. Due to recent events I rather just skip my first chance to vote.

You don't compare your friend to someone as important as your grandma!

Posted by: Bobby | Mar 31, 2008 8:09:07 AM


Is it only me, or there are other people out there tired of reports on the comment of the comments of the comments on the presidential race ?

Is there any way we can stop to talk about Obama 's Wright, Clinton's Monica Husband, and so on and so forth ?

This coverage is getting more and more like a stupid soap opera. Give us politics !

Posted by: Cecile | Mar 31, 2008 8:05:12 AM

I am from a different country but been in the US for a while. I am christian but there are religions in my country which has a lot of castes - upper and lower castes.

My grandmom and her generation had a problem dealing with the lower castes and i have heard her saying racial stereotypes even though she believed herself to be a true christian. Today a lot of my lack of faith in religion is because of all the things people say but seldom do.

I have always called a spade a spade and still today say what my grand mom did is wrong. I see no problem in what obama said. We cant please everybody in this world. We have to talk about what we truly believe and his speech on race really resonated with me.

Posted by: dheep | Mar 31, 2008 8:03:50 AM

I don't think he threw his grandmother under the bus... and I doubt his grandmother does either...

did you walk away with harsh feelings of his grandmother...I didn't... I don't think anyone did...

everyone knows people say things that come from not the best places...from old places...

and those were mistakes...that is what he was saying...it's called honesty.

and I think that is what everyone is trying to say ... we are at a time where honesty can work

Posted by: dl | Mar 31, 2008 8:01:34 AM

Nice story, yet I don't see the point. Obama didn't throw anyone 'under the bus'. It's funny how that term is thrown around. He disclosed candid information about their relationship. His reference to his grand mother is an example of how hushed we all are about our racial views. She loved Barak enough to tell him her fears. Barak listened and as a result has gone on to run a brilliant campaign based on unification. I didn't think any less of his grand mother because of his candid portrail of her. All his statement on his Grand-mother say's to me is that she is a human being. We all are, and make mistakes and make hurried judgements based on preception. As the artical points out Hawaii has it's fair share of racial bias. We are not born in a bubble no matter how good are hearts are, so if you are around people that identify by race first then you tend to do it when you discribe a person. One of the first things we say when asked to point out a person is what their race is. The hard part is acknowledging someone's differeces culturaly and not being swept up in xenophobia. It's a job bigger than one man, or woman can handle, so Barak your Grand-ma is a human being and all right with me. Unless she has come out and said that she told Barak that in confidence and is totally mortified and humilitated then I don't see what's wrong with it. I think what he's doing to bring people of all races together and trancend race, when we all know he could be garnering all the media attention and controversy in the world if he were to run as the 'race candidate', say's that he listens to grand-ma and loves her enough to do his part. If a man dosn't listen to his grand-ma what makes you think he'll listen to us? He did and he will. Yes we can!!!!

Posted by: MIMS NJ | Mar 31, 2008 8:00:52 AM

If Obama gets the dem. nod, for the first time in my adult life I will be voting a Republican for President.

Posted by: Giz | Mar 31, 2008 7:48:06 AM

Obama is a creep!

NoBama for 2008!

Posted by: Chester | Mar 31, 2008 7:47:26 AM

Obama is a creep who threw his grandma under the bus!

But, that is not all, read about Obama and his dirt on

Go Bless America!

Posted by: Meg | Mar 31, 2008 7:46:23 AM

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