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Obama's Grandmama

March 31, 2008 7:19 AM

The Honolulu Advertiser fleshes out the tale of Madelyn Dunham, 85, the maternal grandmother of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, who in December 1970 was named one of the first two female vice presidents at Bank of Hawaii.

Dunham may be best known to voters as the woman Obama referenced in his race speech, when he said of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother — a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed her by on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

Some people saw that as Obama making a moral equivalence and callously throwing his grandmother under the bus. Which, of course, Obama denies, saying he was just talking honestly about race.

- jpt

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Obama's family is a mystery. I did not know he had any siblings at all until one

of the cable news networks interviewed a sister in Hawaii who looks nothing like him, not that she should but it was interesting. This was before the Dem. primaries in Hawaii.
I will not be voting for Obama either should he get the nod and it has nothing to do with "race" but it has everything to do with lack of media scrutiny, the way I saw the chaos in our caucus site here in Johnson Co., Ks. and heard about what happened at other sites in the county. I personally think people came in from across the state line (Mo. is next door) and overwhelmed the caucuses. A friend (who was an Obama supporter) said at her caucus site, they waited outside for more that an hour in frigid temperatures with raining ice and snow coming down. When they finally got inside, there was no list of registered voters for the site. They were asked if they were registered voters (no I. D.) required and who they were for. At our site, it took about 3 hours to caucus and my husband was not on their list of registered voters and he had to register that night. We have lived in the same house now for l7 years and have voted in presidential elections the entire time we have lived here. We were lucky, however, because we at least had a warm, dry, building to wait in.
Of course, it's no secret who the caucuses favor, the very young with no family obligation, and the upper class who have more disposable time on their hands. How many of Obama's pledged delegates and popular votes came from caucus states? It's rather interesting to me that Hillary Clinton won in Texas by several percentage points but Obama beat her in the caucuses. If it was anything like it was around here, how many of those caucus wins were true wins and how many were Obama supporters again overwhelming the caucus sites so chaos reigned?
Once Obama gets any scrutiny at all, he certainly looks like "politics as usual" and sometimes worse as evidenced by the Rev. Wright scandal. I have voted Democratic all my life when it came to the Presidential elections, but if Hillary doesn't get the Dems nomination, I'm not sure what I will do. I might write her in, if I think it will do any good - otherwise I will vote for McCain, not because I agree with his policies but the thought of Obama, his Church, and Rev. Wright scares me. If the reverse were true and Clinton or any of the other Democratic candidates had sat in a church for 20 years and listened to that kind of garbage preached from the pulpit, their candidacy would have been finished before it started. The arrogance of this man and his followers is amazing. I have went to various blog sites put out by mainstream media and the gutter language, the personal attacks on the Clintons, is simply over the top and all too often, it is the Obama supporters who are guilty of this. It sickens my soul. What has the Democratic Party become?

Posted by: Cathy | Apr 1, 2008 6:47:36 PM

PLEASE NOTE; WHY I APPRECIATED OBAMA'S REFERENCE TO HIS GRANDMOTHER, IT MADE ME THINK OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE GREAT PEOPLE, BUT HAVE MADE COMMENTS ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE WHICH ARE LESS THAN FLATTERING. I CAN EVEN INCLUDE MYSELF IN THAT GROUP. AS A CHILD GROWING UP IN THE SOUTH DURING THE 60s & 70's I HAD A VERY DIM VIEW OF MOST WHITES!!
I DON'T SEE HIS GRANDMOTHER AS A BAD PERSON; THE FACT OF THE "CLUTCHING " THE PURSE PHENOM IS NOT NEW AND UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE SEEN BLACK FOLK DO IT TOO! GUESS WHAT, THAT'S NOT RIGHT EITHER! PEOPLE HAVE REACTED TO ME IN THAT WAY WHEN I WAS YOUNGER; USUALLY WHITES; AND AS A YOUNG PERSON YOUR FEELINGS BECOME BRUISED. FORTUNATELY, I HAVE GROWN UP AND I AM ABLE TO HANDLE THE UGLY POSTS I SEE ON THIS BLOG. WELL, JUST LIKE I HAD TO LEARN THAT NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE BAD; SOME OF YOU MAY NEED TO LEARN THE SAME ABOUT BOTH BLACK AND WHITE. AND, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH US HAVING AN HONEST MOMENT. MANY OF YOU BEFORE THE SO-CALLED WRIGHT CONTROVERSY WERE NOT OBAMA FANS, AND ARE NOW USING IT AS AN EXCUSE!

Posted by: AGBI | Apr 1, 2008 12:01:11 PM

I have to add this. My Black friends laughted at his USING his Grandmother being afraid of a Black man on the street.
They pointed out that Black on Black crime has been out of control & very much a central issue in the Black communities for several years.
They said they'd cross the street too! Since Obama is this big "organizer from the SS of Chi-town" you'd think he'd be aware of that & not use it as a racial slur against a white person.

Posted by: Sophia | Apr 1, 2008 5:40:09 AM

You just have to love the "spin". He's from a teenage Mom.(she was married, Obama Sr. chose to leave her behind)
He is tough & street savy) The "HOOD" ala a fancy prep-school?
Yes, it is the "old Okey-doke". We're being Bamboozeled for sure.
It would not surprise me that he keeps her under lock & key so media can't talk with her.
Like when all hell broke loose with Rev. Wright. All of a sudden (did you notice the smug smile)the Rev is on a"cruise" & can't be reached. Then he's going to speak in Tampa only days later, then it's canceled. Then he went to celebrate Maya's birthday & now the Trinity website is being "scrubbed"

Obama is a man who has been using a lot of people to get what he wants, for his own greed & power. There is going to be a shocker for many people when his supporters discover who they are really enabling at the cost of our country.

Posted by: Sophia | Apr 1, 2008 5:28:00 AM

I read the stories that are running in Hawaii...seems to me that Obama's "typical white" grandmother was not so typical after all.

She was a trailblazer and a woman who lived outside the box. A success in a man's world. She bumped that glass ceiling. Someone who he could be proud of. The woman who was there to raise him for years when his mother was not.

I wonder if he downplayed her career in his autobiography.

Somehow I think in most things Obama is looking for the "better fairytale". The truth is Obama is not a fairytale because of his war stance or the fact that he is a Black candidate.

The fairytale is the Cinderella story that Obama wrote himself and continues to sell to America.

Speaking as a "typical white" grandmother with a bi-racial grandson I don't care for the House of cards Obama has built.

Posted by: Jackie | Apr 1, 2008 4:52:49 AM

if he was going to contrast people, and one of the people being used was a relative, his grandmother, perhaps the black racist used should have been his wife.

Posted by: fedup | Apr 1, 2008 4:29:43 AM

Regardless of what these other posts say, racism from whites (coming from Obama's Grandmother or from anyone else) is no different from racism from blacks (from rev. Wright or anyone else). I say this as a white man.

Obama had the right to make the comparison. He was making the point that even his own family has problems and he should be commended for his honesty. Pretending that Obama's grandmother was perfect and never made those statements does not help us to understand the situation.

People who are bashing Obama are not being logical but simply showing their emotional hatred against him.

Posted by: Josh | Apr 1, 2008 3:07:16 AM

Frankly, I am irked with all these political clowns. Regarding Obama, just the fact that he resides in a house worth approximately 1.65 million dollars automatically disqualifies him in my book. How many comfortable, modest homes would 1.65 million dollars buy for some of the unfortunate people who lost everything in the wake of Katrina? Let's not leave the Clinton's out either. I am aware that Billy Boy got a rather hefty advance for his memoirs. I haven't even probed into McCain's real estate holdings or financial status. Wake up people of America. These clowns are duping us. This has nothing to do with race.

Posted by: Fitz | Mar 31, 2008 7:34:27 PM

In as much as people try to bring Obama down, he will grow strong in it, reading all the write here, it only shows how people are so biased about the simple thruth of life, they are all filled wiht hate, but one thing is sure, OBAMA WILL COME OUT STRONG.

Posted by: easyphilips | Mar 31, 2008 6:01:53 PM

Yes, He tossed her under the bus, and she gladly went,For his sake. Did she also help pay for his education?? Obama is a walking Contradiction.

Posted by: Tom H | Mar 31, 2008 5:15:48 PM

People are so full of hate. So quick to think people are scheming. Most of this is coming from the media. They tell the same stories over and over again to sensationalize everything. No wonder the candidates can't stick to the issues. The public is so gullible, wanting to absorb every single thing that is in the media, that when a candidate tries to be honest, we can't tell when he or she is really telling the truth and we really don't seem to want to hear the truth. Doesn't anyone want to hear honesty anymore. No matter what race or political background we come from, we really aren't that different. People should really stop and think about that!

Posted by: Annoyed | Mar 31, 2008 4:22:17 PM

By the way, Obama inflated his father's role in the Kenyan government back when he was interviewed by the N.Y. Times in 1990 following his election as President of the Harvard Law Review. He told the interviewer that his father was a "Finance Minister" in Kenya prior to his death. He wasn't, he was a bureaucrat who worked in the Finance Ministry. When he lied, he was a 28 year old man - fairly sophisticated and would have been expected to know that "Finance Minister" is the same as a cabinet level Secretary of _________(here, maybe Treasury, or Chairman of the Federal Reserve?

You can locate the story on the web (unless that too has been scrubbed by TEAMOBAMA). My question is why did he feel he had to lie? Wasn't he comfortable in his own skin? Why did he feel he had to impress his Harvard friends? He didn't seem to give his classmates any credit if he felt he had to lie about his background.

Posted by: s. valenti | Mar 31, 2008 4:10:03 PM

Get Out Obama. You are a liar, a user and a fraud.

Posted by: proud american | Mar 31, 2008 4:02:50 PM

to a "Typical White Woman...." It's clear from this article that Obama had nothing to do with it (unlike the puff piece he authorized about his mother in law and her contribution to their childcare needs - Boston Globe 3/29/08).

I can't stand Obama, but, I really liked the portrait that emerged of his grandmother. I wonder why he hasn't spoken more about the strengths that are so obvious from this article. He really does perplex me! Most people would proudly introduce their grandparents' story - they've lived a part of history from the World War 2 through many social changes. I'm guessing that we don't see her because she might be frail. But to not introduce her story, has me wondering.

(Now of course we'll see some "puff piece" put out by the marketing people of his campaign. They did something similar when people started asking questions about his mother, the anthropologist.

There is a lot about Obama that we don't know. We seem to only learn what he wants us to know. Why is that?

Posted by: s. valenti | Mar 31, 2008 3:59:29 PM

Vice President of a Bank in Hawaii? Wow Obama, you must really relate to our half black, harsh upbringing here in the main land. NOT!

Posted by: irma | Mar 31, 2008 3:39:36 PM

just exactly how many black men are wandering the streets of honolulu anyway? the whole thing is probably made up like about half of what he says is

Posted by: tex | Mar 31, 2008 3:00:56 PM

Obama didn't throw his grandmother under the bus. He exaggerated a situation he thought would buy him time. It worked. None of the people in his circle who made the statements causing the uproar are allowed anywhere near a microphone. That is working too.

The problem is, it won't work all the way to November much less for four years.

He had a normal upper middle class childhood and found himself feeling guilty about that. Why? Ask him. He has led a very successful life but is still telling us about his pain filled background of self-loathing and doubt? Why? Ask him.

In fact, this man is not a race candidate. In the mixed neighborhood I grew up in, the blacks would have referred to him as an 'oreo' and me as 'buttermilk'. Those names stick hard and hurt but we raise ourselves above them and move on because we learn that the only names that matter are the ones we call ourselves. The beliefs that matter are the ones we choose.

Justice is not found in nature. It is found in the human heart and known by the choices of the heart.

Obama didn't move on. He married, embraced his wife's faith and church. He chose a base of political support that chooses to preach Black Liberation Theology. Obama can't speak to those beliefs so he puts them down as 60s rhetoric but they still are the tightly held beliefs of his base in Chicago.

Obama is a man with demons. He needs to work those out and the conversation will help. But he can't be doing that and running the country at a time of economic crisis and threats to our security. Give him some time and one day he might be ready for this.

But that time is not now. He is unelectable.

Posted by: len | Mar 31, 2008 2:36:41 PM

Indigo - A few things you may have missed, the story about his grandma was a straight out lie, his autobiography he wrote about the incident it was a aggressive panhandler that his grandma was afraid of not a black mane just walking down the street.

As far as Rev Wright it was at least 6 sermons they are talking about so far, and I am sure there are a whole lot more, just look at the website for the church before they changed it.

Also in Obamas book is that he wants to cleanse the white blood from him.

Posted by: spock | Mar 31, 2008 2:02:26 PM

Thus far, Granny has had no comment in being lumped in there with the reverend, in contrast to Geraldine Ferraro who wasn't reticent at all about speaking up on how wrong it was for Obama to mix her in there with Wright. Apparently, he stirred up some things in his racial speech that folks are still sniffing at. It still remains to be seen if the main ingredient, Wright, will remain a political liability. Perhaps this Wright controversy will be stewing a while longer. I do empathize that the reverend and his church still feel under the fire. Essentially, Obama cooked up a good one in putting his reverend on the campaign. Though it probably wasn't a recipe for disaster as it first appeared.

Posted by: katrina | Mar 31, 2008 1:51:44 PM

More than anything the grandma comment bothered me the most. Mrs. Dunham is the same age as my mother and probably in the same health. I don't believe a woman who took him in and loved him would say anything like that to him. I believe he not only threw her under the but but he out and out lied.

Posted by: Christine D | Mar 31, 2008 1:34:04 PM

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