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Marie

Your post speaks for itself.

WE SHOULD ENDORSE A UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

This is an election about:
Economic change
Job prosperity
Housing ( foreclosure campground)
education
A yes vote for this war--(About 145 thousand Americans are fighting this war) How many Americans have been killed fighting this war? How many more will die? -- AMERICA HAVE A LEADER FOR A WAR COMMITTEE, NOW LET US ELECT A PRESIDENT.

IOWA VOTED FOR CHANGE

Commander Guy wrote:

"Marie - fair enough on the speech. To each her own. I thought it read well. And at least you ain't callin up da little guy with the funny stache."

No, I am not. However, I do see a similarity to Mussolini. He was a very popular politician, could move the masses, brought schools to remote mountain villages in Italy that had never enjoyed such privilege. Poor Italians who had emigrated to this country sent their gold jewelry to support such effot, not knowing of the monstrous acts to come. Not Hitler, but perhaps Mussolini who started out as a true socialist and sucked in the peasants.

"I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible," he said.

"It's a story that hasn't made me the most conventional candidate. But it is a story that has seared into my genetic makeup the idea that . . ."
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Uh, no other country has multiracial people, or what?
Are we comfy with the mystical idea that better political ideas are "seared" only into the "genetic makeup" of SOME folks, and not others?
If some white guy were spouting his mystical right to rule the world based on his "genetic makeup", we'd be a little NERVOUS, wouldn't we??

GEEVIL writes:
"It is an insulting attempt to lay a guilt trip on white people."
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. . . which can be healed only by a "vote for me"? (And if this hothouse flower were actually elected president: what THEN?)
Better the Democrats should nominate John Edwards. He's not "black", but he IS maybe a little Indian-looking.

But "...we can speculate on whether white men will all flock to John McCain in the general election regardless of his policies" really wasn't put forward as a prediction.

No, it is a statement indicting all white males as racists. "We' being Obama and his supporters. No where in the speech does he "speculate" about his own supporters. Everyone else is racist or part of the problem. Not Obama. Not a greart speech if you actually read it. It is an insulting attempt to lay a guilt trip on white people.

geevil writes:
Obama said that "we" are speculating that all white males will vote for McCain regardless of his policies.
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The interminable text of Obama's remarks is on huffingtonpost. The weirdest thing about the address: the line from "Requiem for a Nun".

But "...we can speculate on whether white men will all flock to John McCain in the general election regardless of his policies" really wasn't put forward as a prediction.

"Not this time"? Right: a Depression's coming down -- and this time, most Americans are NOT a generation off the farm. Superficial "diversity" aside, neither of these manufactured frontrunners really inspires much confidence.

The best Democratic nominee: John Edwards. The guy who actually KNOWS something about poverty.

DCV, Marie and the Gang

Ha Gang. HRC has thrown the towel on fighting this and has moved on.

She said in Philly today:

"I did not have a chance to see or to read yet Sen. Obama’s speech, but I’m very glad that he gave it. It’s an important topic," she said. "Issues of race and gender in America have been complicated throughout our history, and they have been complicated in this primary campaign. There have been detours and pitfalls along the way."

She further went on to say:

It isn't the quality of the speeches "It's whether the president delivers on the speeches."

There that wasn't so hard was it? HRC could see it.

DCV - I think you need to take a Break after violating Godwins Law Twice here now.

Marie - fair enough on the speech. To each her own. I thought it read well. And at least you ain't callin up da little guy with the funny stache.

I don't know if we will learn anything else about Senator Obama. I hope we don't learn it after he gets the nomination.

cappa - let's not forget that in 2004 he flat out said he would not run in 2008 because he was not qualified to do the job. In an interview with CNN after announcing his run, he said that yes he initially was not going to run but some senior democrats encouraged him to do so. Ferraro was right, some of the party set him up for this.. including the speech at the convention... let me guess... the liberal wing encouraged it? aka Kennedy Kerry clan?

marie - from a speech making critique perspective, i agree.. he looked down and read most of the time yet Jackson claims he bared his soul? On an issue that was supposed to be such a large part of his life? Nothing from his heart? He has to read it off a piece of paper? his stump speeches with a promise of change and hope were better but they lacked substance... this was nothing more than damage control from a typical politician

Irma, I've said many times that the enthusiastic endorsement of Obama by the Kennedy and Kerry establishment was in large part to get the power to manipulate a weak president. Obama is totally beholden to them and other politicians. I believe the real shame is that Kennedy, Kerry, etc. know that Hillary would be the best president, but they wouldn't be able to use her as a puppet.

Obama supporters: you think he stands for "Change"? Only if Kennedy, Kerry and all of the congressional supporters say so.

Tom J, may we hear specifics as to your opinion?

Last post errata:

"Incite" should be "insight"!! Funny though. LOL

“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”

“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”

“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”

“It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge.”

“The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.”

- Adolf Hitler

Commander Guy said:

"DCV, Marie and the Gang
Why can't you all just say that BHO gave a good speech, but we like our Girl better? I mean with you gals, BHO can do nothing right and HRC can do no wrong"

Commnander Guy, Make no mistake, I really did not think was a "good speech." For the most part, I found it boring. I was never moved. I was never enlightened. I heard no revelation or incite.

I read on another bloggers post that John Kerry and Ted Kennedy were trying to win the Presidency they were never able to get, through having Obama as the candidate. Hmmmmm.

DCVoter stated:

I would have respected a more noble speech from him if he had said,

"With regards to Pastor Wright, I was there, I heard what he said, and I believe some of it to be truth. I lied to the American people and for that I truly apologize. I never intended to divide this country along racial lines and I see that my own struggles to accept myself and forgive others for their prejudice born of the ignorant acts of our ancestors played a role. I have failed in my quest to unite America because I am still torn within. For the good of the party, the country, and the world, I am withdrawing from the race and fully endorse Senator Clinton for President of the United States."

You know, DCV, I half expected him to step down and I envisioned a speech just like you have presented.

I am with Dreamer. Truly. I am half black, but from the beginning I knew Obama was manipulating people with race and that NEVER ends well. I know. I did experience being called the N word and being physically attacked for it at age seven, when we moved into an all white neighborhood in 1969. So I know. I just can't get past the fact that race became an issue because Obama CHOSE to make it so. Yes there is racism against black people, but I know now that the vast majority of white people, especially our generation and beyond are more open minded and willing to work out our differences. However, Obama, while preaching unity, called on and pointed to any race related issue possible, mostly to make accusations in order to win the Presidency. I will never trust him to unite the country when his tactics are so incredibly divisive.

DCV, Marie and the Gang

Why can't you all just say that BHO gave a good speech, but we like our Girl better? I mean with you gals, BHO can do nothing right and HRC can do no wrong.

BTW, this stuff about Jeffersonian Doctrine and such is plain nonsense. DCV, wasn't Ol'Jeff in Paris while the Constitution was drafted?

leigh, pittsburgh, totally agree with you re cnn and msnbc - have them on boycott for a month now. you are lucky that your local papers give you info - mine is just like msnbc. so i just read the sports page and come to the net for news. need to get around to cancelling the paper.

and, yes, the fawners are almost as bad as their golden boy. i used to be able to occasionally look at them for purposes of humor, but now can't stand the sight of them. same for obama, just click away when he or one of his apologists come on the air.

i think we all know that if the media had covered obama in an objective way, he would've never gotten this far. and if they had covered him in the rabid way they cover hillary, he would've folded his tent long ago. but they have not and will not. and now that they've invested so much of their own "credibility" into him, they are stuck in a trap and have to continue praising him to the high heavens in a (futile) attempt to justify their own pandering.

i so miss the days of murrow, etc., but they are gone.

re obama and his speech, like so many who can't stand the sight of him, i just read the transcript. predictable damage control stuff. not buying it. can't undo 20 years with a speech.

mlk wasn't doing his speeches to cover his own behind, he was doing them for the good of others - quite a different matter. loved mlk, cried when he was killed. same for bobby and john. obama is no mlk, bobby, or john.

Words are indeed powerful. Wright's sermons are still more powerful than the speech given today by Obama. You cannot erase 20 yrs of feeding into this divisive messages and call yourself a uniter overnight. If he was a TRUE uniter who cares deeply about his friend, mentor or adviser, then he could've changed Wright's views or at least convinced him to tone down his divisive speeches - as he himself admits that it is not helping the situation. Instead, he allowed this man to keep giving inflammatory speeches, cultivating more anger and animosity among African Americans. The only explanation I can think of is, he believes and feels the same way about America.

I knew this would be the speech. The people who are black haved suffered because of the older generations and ancestors; so all you white people should feel ashamed and guilty and be better people. You can do that if you elect ME. Because I am not a racist, I just know a lot of them. Thank you, Obama.

marie - I agree. His disrespect for women shows in his condescending nature and his failure to be with his mother when she was dying. His obvious bias against non-whites shows in his need to be a part of the "black community" that he gives as a reason for joining TUCC. As was stated by a black Chicago political analyst the other day in an interview, (paraphrase) he had a choice of numerous other congregations to join in Chicago, yet he chose the one that is the most divisive.

Jackson said "I think he bared his soul"... so he has to read wht his soul is off piece of paper about an issue that is supposedly one of struggle and great importance all his life and the most pivotal moment in his campaign? NAH... not buying it!

Obama said that "we" are speculating that all white males will vote for McCain regardless of his policies. He basically called any white man who votes for McCain a racist. Nothing said about his black supporters and their motive.

LoisT wrote:

"LET'S BE REAL! PLEASE BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF!
EVERYONE on this blog have family members, associates (friends) that makes or have made racial statements that you laughed at or dealt with. YOU DID NOT REALLY DISTANCE YOURSELF FROM THAT PERSON!"

Lois,

First, I have NOTHING IN MY BACKGROUND THAT EVEN APPROACHES THE LEVEL OF HATE SPEWED BY REV. WRIGHT. IN FACT, I HAVE NEVER EVEN WITNESSED ANYTHING QUITE LIKE THAT VITRIOL.

Second, Rev. Wright is not Obama's family. He has a family both black and white. If you read his books (I have only skimmed them), you will see that he never forgot, as he reminded us today. the words of his white gramdmother he deemed racist. Though it was his white mother and white grandparents who shouldered the full brunt of his upbringing, you rarely hear of a thank you. If you look further you will even see that he did not go to his mother's bedside when she was dying. He muses that he did not know she was that sick. Hello. she was dying of ovarian cancer. That was no secret.

Upshot: Obama is a man of great oratorical gifts and many other talents. However, when I look at him I see a man still struggling with his racial identity; a man, in the words of his sister, Maya, who walks between two worlds; a man who harbors, but does not face, great resentment toward non-blacks. Thus, his loyalty and embracement of Rev Wright are understandable.

How can anyone say that a man who stands at a podium and reads the words while looking down for most of the speech is a good speaker? No wonder he and McCain both use teleprompters. Why did he not "speak from the heart"? Certainly a person running for President who has been thinking about this speech for some time per his own campaign (which makes me wonder if they didnt plan the delivery by deliberately enticing scandal) should have been able to exhibit adequate public speaking skills. He is an Ivy League graduate for goodness sakes! Keeping the sound muted and watching the captioning really brings out the insincerity.

Hmm...So it's OK to speak about race--as long as it's a black person doing the talking?

I don't think so Obama.

I'm white and middle class ( whatever that means)and I thought the speech was eloquent and honest. Senator Obama opened up an honest discussion for people of every color..I think now the question is do we talk about the racism part of things- the something shiny the media has been trying to shift our focus to, or do we talk about the issues that affect people of every color throughout the country, everyday..you know gas prices, foreclosures,..that pesky war.... I for one am ready to hear both of them talk about those things again.

I wonder how this will play with PA voters? Most of whom are white and middle class?

Terrific speech. I don't see any way Clinton or McCain can top this. We'll see what the polls say later, but I'd say Obama knocked this one out of the park.

marie - he has always been condescending and sexist... why should we expect him to change now?

"The speech will address not just Wright's comments, but the context of that kind of fiery rhetoric in black churches, and the importance of moving beyond the battles of the past."
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Well, he just went on and on, and the applause from the invited audience seemed delayed and overlong. On the news channels, commentators were there to pump up the appearance in advance, and to say not a discouraging word afterwards, but it was flat and unconvincing.

Commander Guy

If you want to be cynical and unappreciative like Michelle Obama, or evasive like Obama I cant help you....after you will vote your conscience....the one thing among many that isnt straight.

Apparently Obama doesnt know the constitution or JFK's principles. Holding true to Jefferson's doctrine, the separation of church and state must be absolute. JFK envisioned an America that honored held that wall. Churches are not allowed to violate law by endorsing or campaigning for a politician in church. Obama had a duty as a Senator, lawyer, and a member to advise them not to break the law. Not only did he not advise them correctly, he and his campaign staff participated in it. Unfortunately, the IRS case is going to take years to complete as usual. On the content of the sermons, the right of free speech is still subject to our laws. Hate speech that incites riots, etc. is not allowed. Defamation of character with libel and slander is not allowed. Speeches that incite the overthrow of the government can be interpreted as sedition. It is time we hold our current agents accountable and tell them to do their jobs. We need a President who will restore the constitution to its place of guidance in our governing principles.

LET'S BE REAL! PLEASE BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF!
EVERYONE on this blog have family members, associates (friends) that makes or have made racial statements that you laughed at or dealt with. YOU DID NOT REALLY DISTANCE YOURSELF FROM THAT PERSON! Even if you were the ONLY person that heard it. CATHOLICS have not distanced themselves from the SEXUAL IMMORALITIES OF THEIR PRIESTS, there are other ministers WHO HAVE HAD AFFAIRS in the denomiation churches and have not distanced themselves from the CHURCH. There were ministers after 9/11 and after Mr. Moore's movie regarding the knowledge of 9/11. There were so many AMERICANS who spent their opinions of hatred toward American government and pastors such as Rod Parsley, John Hagee, Jeremiah Wright, etc., blasted America's government and stated that AMerica is judged, damned because of either the sin or leadership at the helm of the country. They have called Bush the antichrist, racist, etc.. As a child that was brought up during the Civil Rights Movement, years after years, I have heard racial statements from my mother, father(who served his country in the US Army for 32 years) grandfather(who served the Caucasian as a cook travelling from one house to another), brothers (who served from 5 - 32 years in the US Armed Forces), sisters (who experienced hatred slurs from Caucasians while cleaning their houses and cooking in their businesses, aunts (who experienced hatred slurs from Caucasians while working in their businesses, uncles, nieces, nephews and neighbors and teachers, etc., have made statements reflecting their views, experiences, and hurts from what they have encounted from Caucasians. YOU MUST BE STUPID, IGNORANT AND BLIND IF THESE PEOPLE can easily push pass these experiences. Most have written them, most have harbored them in their hearts and lives have been altered. If this was Rod Parsley or John Hagee, it would not be intensified or blogged so much. All of the priests that committed the high level of SEXUAL IMMORALITY against CHILDREN WERE OF THE ANGLO-SAXON DECENT. Take that and run with it! GOD HAVE JUDGED AND WILL JUDGE EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO THEIR WORKS!

MattOhio - Changed my mind. Keep on typing dood. The more you type and the faster you post, the better. You got this nailed man. Don't be shy.

TELL THE WORLD.

Commaner Guy

If you cant understand those words...it is your problem....dont condone racist victim behavior(Obama's)

As an addendum to my previous post and perhaps the most important point:

Obama presents himself as the only vehicle to achieve health care and jobs and racial harmony and on and on. He presents a choice between John McCain and himself.

Shoudn't someone tell him that Hillary Clinton is still in the race? The audacity of his belief that he is the ONLY answer and the ONLY way infuriates me.

MattO.H. - I.0! - Dude let Marie and DCV do the HRC shilling. You ain't helping. Just some friendly advice.

Oh I get it now... If we don't vote for him it will be our fault that racism still exists. Got to give him credit for trying to dig himself out of a ditch and put it all back on the American people.

He cannot win against McCain in the general election. Hillary can.

Hillary 2008

This was not effective for me at all. I do not need an historical context. I know we have a constitution; I know about the framers. Far too much time was spent on this mood music. News for Sen. Obama, the framers would have protected Rev. Wright's First Amendment rights, but would never have supported him as president. That has nothing to do with the color of your skin, but has everything to do with politics.

Juxtaposition of Geraldine Ferraro and Rev. Wright is ludicrous and distasteful, or was it Geraldine Ferraro and OJ? It all begins to merge after a while.

Obama has done the following

1. Still blames Ferraro for racism
2. Does not want to distance Wright
3. Accepted that he knew Wright's comments from before but dint condemn when he knew
4. Blames founding fathers of America for race....
5. Thinks Blacks have more burden than other Americans

and many more gaffes......he is mincemeat

DCV - Ha! Did you just bread Godwin's Law to bash Mr. O?

All this Clinton shilling gets pretty hard when you gotta do highwire style w/o a net and campaign propaganda to cut and paste into a post.

Don't screw up.

DCV

Looks like you got your work cut out for you today.

I read that Obama speech and it sure ain't no Romney speech.

Good Luck.

We dont hold the germans of today responsible for Hitlers atrocities. He should not be holding the people of today responsible for the atrocities of its ancestors. Doing so keeps old wounds open and anger alive. This leads to separatist views and division. This is hardly a uniter philisophy that we need.

Obama is saying that the burden of AfricanAmericans is far more than any other American. What a load of crap...he still blames us(White America) for slavery in the last century.

I wonder how long it will take the pollsters to produce valid results? I guess we will have to wait until after all the media spinning is done (good and bad)... and get results in a week?

Sounds to me like there was proof he was at the sermons. Nothing else could have forced him to admit he lied.

CNN is trying to spin it with AfricanAmerican commentators saying that he answered all the questions......Obama accepted that he knew about Wright's comments before but dint reject them because he agreed with those comments....so he has accepted that he lied on National TV

That was a lame speech and did nothing to change my mind.

Words and speeches cannot cover his apparent hatred of white people.

Obama is still blaming Ferraro for being racist.....what a hypocrite

Well let's see he started out as far back as 1787 and then he started bragging about his wins in the white states. He blames the racial tension in South Carolina basically on the Clinton's. He lied before , because he said he know how Wrights racist words were divisive, making excuses, more excuses blah, blah, blah, Geraldine Ferraro brought up, OJ. Well, he covered all his bases, but the speech was just empty meaningless words trying to prevent even more damage. It was not effective at all.

When things get tough we get more BS talk. Talk Talk Talk!!!! Sometimes I think he thinks he can justify anything with endless talking. You mr. Obama can't win our hearts with talk alone. Try going back to your job and going something instead of talking!!!! You sir are no different than the rest of the phonies in Washington.

Reading the above post - I shake my head in disgust with you people. I am reading the most ingnarant stuff in mylife time here. Oh yeah - racisiam is alive and well on this very board. Every one of you should be ashamed of yourself. How dare you condemn a man for the sayings of another man. The dumbing down of America. It is truly a sad day in America here today. All of the above take a good look at yourself.

Give it up Obama! You're toast.

There they go again. The paid Obama staff starting to clap every chance possible.

Shame on you Obama. If you want to eliminate the racial divide, then repudiate your paster.

Good point. He is trying to distance himself from Uncle "Wright".

I'm not buying this. He is no MLK!

Mr Obama will keep the African American voters. Unless he denounces his church.
that would put him in a bad light for The African American Community.

Most African Americans have a solidarity, and most feel America owes them, blames them for being slaves. Although none alive today have ever been slaves, they blame that on everything wrong with their lives, and want restitution. The majority feel that way. They look for Obama to get them that.

First and foremost their main goal.

The bills are already written and ready to push through.

Thet want money, land, housing, all free for life.

Interesting how the Obama staff started to aplause after he began taling about Brown vs. Board of Education.

How pathetic!

I'm not convinced.

If Clinton were even remotely associated with any organization (church or otherwise) that supports or honors leaders of white hate groups (white supremacists or separatists), the world would be in an uproar. The media would be having a field day. No way would anyone stand for her to try to justify it by saying white people know how to cut through the hate speech and be lifted up and transcend beyond racism. Leaders would be calling for her resignation. I cant even begin to list the details of the witch hunt that would result.

Obama's speech so far does nothing for me. This is another opportunity for him to spread the empty rhetorics!

He's better ready to quit now!

BTW Obama has scrubbed his website of Wright and NOI but he left a trail. In fact, one of the groups on his website is the New Black Panthers, a black separatist group classified as a hate group and watched by the Southern Poverty Law Center alongside the neonazi and other white supremacist or separatist groups. He was embarassed into denouncing and rejecting Farrakhan's endorsement. He professed to remove the ties to NOI. Then we discover the ties that bind are indeed still there within TUCC. He is embarassed into denying knowledge and disassociating himself from his pseudo-father. Do I believe it was sincere? No. Do I believe he lied? Yes. When a person does not reject and denounce on principle, it is because he agrees with their views.

Social views have always been a factor. We are after all human. The lessons of the past must be heeded. History has shown us that racism and sexism are wrong. We consider separatists to be hate groups and rightfully so. We must remember the mistakes of the past... genocide is wrong. The role of government is the protection if its citizens from harm by passing and enforcing laws. Social healing comes from social organizations as it should but we cannot control or regulate their teachings. Therefore, the separation of church and state must be absolute. Free speech is wonderful but laws of sedition must be enforced to protect our national security.

We can address racism and sexism with dialogue. Much work has been done to improve income disparities between the races and the genders.

The statistics show that sexism in this country is much more prevalent than racism. Black men and white men no longer have pay differences. The effects of affirmative action appear to be resulting in a reversed racial disparity and needs to be reviewed. Yet, after 30 years of so-called progress, women still have the same income disparity - 70 cents on the dollar. We have seen blatant sexism in the media, corporate America, and this campaign. Even the media assessed its own bias and admits to the gender-biased coverage it has provided.

If Clinton were to even "think" about holding a speech to address the issues of sexism in our society today, she would be accused of playing the gender card and would likely destroy her career. She would be presenting the facts to the people and opening a dialogue on how we can eliminate the discrimination to improve the lives of women and children of all races.

Gender-bias has had an impact on Clinton in this election. It has divided voters along gender lines. Yet, Clinton maintains her focus on the campaign issues that must be addressed for ALL races and genders: economy, defense, national security, immigration, healthcare, poverty, jobs, and education. She doesnt use the gender card as a way to try to brainwash other people into feeling guilt for wrongs committed against women in the past. She focuses on accomplishing things through hard work and focus. She doesnt need to tell you what she will do, she proves it.

If anyone says that some religious leader didn't say anything about 9/11 and what may have caused it they are liars. Heck the sunday after 9/11 all the churches were filled with people because they thought the world was coming to an end. So trust me, if everyone recorded those sermons/speeches that sunday after 9/11, you would be surprised now about what was said then.

There is such a disturbing double standard happening here. Rev. Wright, Obama's former pastor, said America had defied God by locking up 1/3 of black males and God should punish our country ("God damn America"). Obama has had a 20-year relationship with Rev. Wright, but he has not been involved in Obama's campaign whatsoever. Meanwhile, John McCain is openly embracing the support of Rev. John Hagee, who, quite similarly, claimed that America already has been punished by God (through Hurricane Katrina) for tolerating homosexuality. McCain appears on stage with the man, cites his support on his website, etc. Why is this not a bigger problem for McCain? What's the real difference between Wright's words and Hagee's? Any chance race has something to do with it?

Good work Rev. Wright!

The momentum in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary battle has shifted back to New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, who now leads Illinois Sen. Barack Obama 53 - 41 percent among likely primary voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

This compares to a 49 - 43 percent Sen. Clinton lead in a February 27 poll by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN uh-pe-ack) University. In that survey, the momentum was with Sen. Obama who had narrowed a 52 - 36 percent gap from a February 14 poll.

It does not matter if OBama is half white or not. He chose to continue to be a member of this church and its rhetocis for over 20 years. He choses to expose his young children to this rhetoric week after week to hear how the white man has brought them down. He choses to exercise poor judgement, which is a major trait he is focusing his campaign on. I for one am tired of being a white person in Amercia who has to listen week after week about how my race is keeping black people down, because my ancestors made poor decision. To this day, I am still seen by reflection of behaviors toward my race as responsible for their actions. Well, I denonce my ancestors, does that make it all better now?Because that is exactly what Obama will try to convey in his speech today. He willI denounce his reverend for his words which he does not always agree with but he will continue to support my church and faith (And don't you believe that those types of preachings will come to a halt). This reverse racism is already embedded in him no matter what anyone says. You cannot be a contributing member of a church which spews such rhetoric for years and denounce them when you feel it will benefit you. His childrens minds are already poisoned, how can he possible change the worlds views on racism when he could not bring it upon himself to depart with it in the first place.

My main concern is the audience response to the speeches made by Wright. Ok so we end up with Obama as President what does that mean now?

Is his nomination going to give every nutty preacher license to go on a podium and blast everything in the USA from day one? Is his nomination going to give every AA the right to blame anyone they feel like for slavery and whatever else went past in days when I was not even around?

Are demands going to be made in every quarter to even the score, change the way things are done, will some of us now be asked to move aside because there is a change of the guard and things are no longer the same?

I am sure in today's speech he will try and reassure most Americans that having him as president things will be the same, but is that really going to be so, are his supporters going to go on as usual or will this country now be divided more than ever, with all the people that held grudges over the years wanting to even the score?

Thinking about all this sure is uncomfortable and its hard to look beyond these questions and not wonder about it when you listen to all the chatter on blogs of what tomorrow may hold.

pp - i wont be watching it. I will peruse the transcript later as I do with Bush's BS. I cant stand to watch either of them on TV or hear their voices. It makes me sick to my stomach, angry, and fearful of our future all at the same time. Why? Because they both double-talked their way along their political careers using religion as a shield. Both of them inexperienced and both heavily reliant on advisors. That means they are easily controlled by well oiled machines.

With Obama, the danger to America from within is much more of a concern... his associates support terrorism and genocide by race. I question his patriotism strongly.

I fear his ascension to power. We have a system of checks and balances to help prevent this. Campaigning and political endorsements by churches is prohibited by law. The wall between church and state in governing must be absolute. Sedition is against the law. The people need to allow the vetting to continue and the focus to remain on the judgment, credibility, experience, qualifications, and the records.

Do you think BHO will wear a flag on his lapel today, or play the Star Spangled Banner and cover his heart?
Not!

"what else don't we know...."

the man has written two books about his life; one of which was painfully honest and written long before entering professional politics.

people who say we don't know enough are trying to not know enough. he's put his life out there pretty well.

and when you consider the blatant refusal of McCain and ESPECIALLY Clinton to be open and transparent with the voters in the most basic way: tax returns (McCain and Clinton), Earmark requests...presidential library donors...First Lady schedules (Clinton), than the question journalists SHOULD be asking is:

What don't we know about Sen. Clinton? Obama's been much more transparent than her.

When will Hillary sit down for 3 hours to discuss the indicted (or imprisoned) people who have raised money for her over the years??

Dcvoter: I am afraid that the media will not ask him about this contradiction in his own reasons why voters should choose him and not Hillary. He gets to choose the setting and will not answer any questions. I can tell you now that the MSM will say that it was an inspirationa speech the likes of which we have not seen since MLK. They will say that he has put this behind him. They need to do this because they have so much invested in not what he does but what he says. In political science this is called cognitive dissoance. That it is the struggle to assimilate information that differs from what we beleive. In most cases people simply choose not to accept any information that goes against their beleifs. This is true for the media as well!

Obama is giving this speech today because of political expediency, not because he is a brave conciliator. His judgment is what is in question. Obama's explanation that Pastor Wright is like an uncle, and you can't disassociate yourself from your uncle is ridiculous. One is stuck with one's family, that is true, the only member of your family that you choose is your spouse, and yes we all have family members with whom we do not agree 100% on political and social issues, and generally we tolerate each other at the occasional family events where we are together. BUT, Pastor Wright is not a member of Obama's family, Obama chose him as his pastor, and he stayed with him for 20 years. If you give Obama the benefit of a doubt, and believe him that he was not in the pew when the remarks were made, you still have to question why in the world would he have dis-invited him to his announcement of his presidential campaign in 2007?? Once again, Obama has shown what poor judgment he has, with REZKO, WRIGHT, NAFTA...

"Senior officials on the Obama camp say..... "

" ...the candidate himself worked hard on the speech the last couple of days...."

Jake, who might those senior officials be ?????????