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Here's how I view it: Wright will not doom Obama unless Obama is proven to be a liar about not being in the pews during his controversial sermons. What could doom Obama, in the general although perhaps not against Hillary, is the perception that he's not tough enough to stand up against terrorist attacks. McCain doesn't have that problem. Neither does Hillary in my view. Obama had better hope that we don't have a major terrorist incident -- here or abroad -- before the general, if he's the nominee. If so, national security will again become the big issue, and he will lose.

pam say: "hillary, be like huckabee. stay in the race till a candidate gets 2025 delegates needed to win nomination."

Good idea. But she better start showing some class, because I seem to remember that Huck didn't pull a tonya harding on McCain.

Matter of fact Ol Huck only said nice things about McCain. So let's hope that at a minimum Hillary starts acting like Huck.

dem08, you call me "without a political conscience" and having a "lack of morality" if i vote mccain over obama. i could say the same for you if you vote for obama - see how that works? we each have our opinions.

you say the dnc doesn't want me. i said it before, but you seem not to have understood, so i'll say it again. the dnc DOES want my votes, and yours, and any they can get. they don't care who they come from. the dnc, however, has lost my vote if obama is nominated.
obama himself is the reason, but the pattern of his supporters insulting hillary's supporters simply adds to it.

pt. Kerry won PA because Bill Clinton campaigned for him and got blacks to the polls. He did not use him in Ohio and he lost! Could this be the same Bill Clinton who Obamanians call the Devil! If you need him he is a friend it you don't then he is an enemy! Well I hope ole Bill just sits this one out!

Not crying matt. Just stating a few facts. I sure hope you folks from Ohio don't screw op the election in the Fall like you did in 2004... At least PA was intelligent enough not to go for bush/cheney. Obama 2008!!!

pt: Hillary was not lying when she said that she was under fire,because anyone who has seen Sinbads act knows how bad it is and one would naturally assume that the enemy would try to shoot the plane down just to keep Sinbad from torturing their people. Lucky for her they had not seen his act thefore no gunfire!

pt-Politicians lie and exaggerate about themselves? Wow! Who knew? So, hang in there, pt. Have a good cry and it will FEEL a whole lot better. There, there, that better?

hillary, be like huckabee. stay in the race till a candidate gets 2025 delegates needed to win nomination.

dl: Obama said that he never consulted Rezko before he bought his house, later he admitted that not only did he consult him he actually to him on a tour of the property, even though he knew that he was an indicted felon! Obama always maintained that he only received $100,000 dollars from Rezko, now he admits that he got $250,000 from him and that all of it has not been accounted for. I know according to Obamanians Hillary lies,but we know that ordinary lying is to BOURGEOIS for him no when he does it is what Obama calls VERBAL CAMOUFLAGE!

pt: are you crying every night about Hillary's Bosnia comments? whiny baby

The sniper-fire comment is not only a lie, it's a bad lie. Was I supposed to think because she ducked her head and ran that she has at least some combat experience. This is such an insult to all the troops that are in danger everyday. This should change the polls in PA over the next few days. Obama 2008!

II. Let Omaba use that anti-semetic rhetoric in FL and see how far it gets him.

I believe the DNC will let everyone vote.

Split the delegates in Michigan 50/50

Split the delegates in Florida 51/48 tilting toward Hillary

After the Puerto Rico primary, majority of the SD's will go to Obama. Enough to get him the nomination.

By the convention, Obama will be the nominee

stop obama

Barack was a lecturer correct..."he has consistently said he taught Constitutional Law" it was CBS that first reported that he was a professor... so I am not sure how you get to say that is a big whopper...

...and taking a literal translation of being born out of something as a whopper...

or the Rezko thing where no one has shown him lying... even when a frustrated newspaper reporter trying to get all the details and interviews she can reports "it stretches the levels of incredulity'

in fact in research people saw that he was listed as a senior lecturer most of the time and that is how he referred to himself...

This is not like Sen Clinton who has vivid words come out of her mouth on important issues...where she covers stuff up or makes stuff up so she looks like she should be the nominee...

Think of all the scandals...the LISTS of scandals that you all say were created by the right wing... and here is this woman who it is now coming out has a problem that has raised it's ugly head many times... Think about all those vetted issues that you all say she has had vetted...go look at all those issues they have not...they were just "explained away" or went through huge legal battles...and in some cases witnesses died unusual deaths...(one of which before prosecutors could get into his office to investigate his suicide...Sen Clinton sent her chief of staff...Ms Williams in to clean up before and was roundly castigated because she did...and why?)

I have been saying this from the beginning ...you all are the ones who have been brainwashed from yuor own arguing with the republicans for 15 years...
and that is sad.

c'mon "we needed to duck our heads" "I am a yankee fan" "I played soccer" at a school that never had a soccer team... "I never supported NAFTA"...these are words directly from her mouth.

The clean up of that guys office after he commited suicide.

Lists...and this issue speaks directly to the subject matter of half of those lists.

Me vote Obama if he wins? Perhaps in the teenage idiot version of myself.

Obama in Ohio: I don't see anything controversial about my church! Really? So in Ohio he says that there is nothing controversial about his church latter he admits that he heard Wright make controversial statements while he was in church. Of course he had to change that because he first said that he had not heard anything like that in church. Well he did say he was for change. I guess changing your mind counts as real change now! Now thats chnge we all can beleive in!

Superdelegates,

I suggest that we call a special session of the previously elected Democratic state legislators in Michigan and Florida and let them cast the vote for Hillary or Barack, and that that vote be used to proportionately decide how the state's delegates will be split. At least you get representation by Democrats for the Democratic voters.

What's wrong with that approach? At least we do not disenfranchise the people of those states.
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OBAMA is a compromiser
OBAMA wants to disenfranchise Fl & Mi
OBAMA paid $$$$$ to hateful Wright
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Sorry dog I disagree, it's our foreign policy. It's what the US has done to the world in the past half century...bombings, depleted uranium, the overthrow of governments, the promotion of torture and more. The terrorist responsible for the bombing of the world trade center 1n 1993 sent the new york times a letter saying they did so because of our support in Isreal. I could go on and on about this.

Let's see, Obama supporters accuse Clinton and us supporters of being racists, disenfranchise Michigan and Florida voters, give Obama a free pass when it comes to his anti-American nutjob mentor Jeremiah Wright and then expect Clinton supporters to support Obama if he becomes the nominee? Dream on, Obamabots, because at least half of us will not vote for Obama and almost a third will rather vote for cranky McCain than put another smooth talking fraud cut in the same mold as George W. Bush into the White House.

Yes Yes Yes-Sniper fire, Hillary? I'm a Hillary supporter and I say that was not only dumb but you can add stupid as well. See, that the beauty of being a Clinton supporter, we got the courage to call our own candidate out for stupidity and exaggeration. Make our candidate better and stronger and forced to the truth. However, if Hillary wasn't under sniper fire then she sure as heck is now.

I see that Obama has put his crazy old uncle Rev Wright back in the attic! Looks like the Rev has decided not to attend events in Fl and TX. What a shame I was looking forward to more of his racist and hate filled sermons. I guess we will have to waite for him to release more of his greatest hits!

This Bosnia story has REALLY hurt Clinton.

If she has so much "experience", why lie?

On almost every newspaper I've seen today, it was on the front cover.

Honestly, I don't think Hillary will win the nomination. The DNC has been hinting on this for weeks.

Stop Obama '08-They don't get it? Well, if we could write our posts in crayon some of the Obama fanatics might.

Thecommanderguy: The difference between Hillary and Obama is that Hillary is a true patriot, who loves her country. Obama loves Rev Wright more than his country or grandmother!

Will-"foreign policies being the problem. That's why this country is hated so much and that is why we are a target for terrorist."

Facts and history are not on your side. Look it up. Burning aircraft in the desert by PLO. Night club bombings by Arabs. Americans (240+) blown up by Arabs. Americans captured by Plo and Hizbullah and on and on. Americans blown up visiting the pyramids. Arabs blowing up world trade center before 9/11, etc, etc.

This thing ended a long time ago. The Dems are going to lose in November, and it is because they always lose. They love to lose. Addicted to it. First, they join a crazy lovefest for Obama...the "liberal" media and the elites in the party. It was amazing. They bash Clinton and uplift Obama. Then after SNL revealed they were high on crack, they run the other way and bash Obama, but the damage had been done for Clinton. She cannot win, and now her supporters are angry...but Obama has been revealed as a neophyte, so he cannot win either. LOL. Only the Dems could blow this moment.

PS: add Howard Dean on Fl/Mich - and you cannot write stuff like this.

You may not think he can win the general election but you know what? He is the one who is going to get the chance to try! Get use to it.

Will-America was hated during the cold war in Europe. Look it up. Check out the marches. We were hated by the Germans, the French, the Brits, the Arabs as usual, and certainly all the eastern block nations.

Will, you and your Rev. Wright "excusers" aren't getting it.

There is no out of context excuse. Google James Cone - it's the writings of this man that Trinity gets it's church doctrine & beliefs from.

It's Black Liberation Theology. It's radical. Barack Obama is a member. This is what he believes.

He cannot win a general election. Get use to it.

British guy, it really doesn't matter what you think. Your leftwing media spoon feeds you the views they want you to believe and you soak it up like babies.

Obama can't win a general election. Tell your British mates that they better get use to a President McCain and get over it.

"Matt, Rev Wright was talking about our foreign policies being the problem. That's why this country is hated so much and that is why we are a target for terrorist.

Well, then, why didn't he just say it that way then? There are ways to say things that are far more politically correct than how Rev. Wright said it."

Actually, I think he succeeded in ways that many others have failed. The more educated citizens that want to know the truth are searching the context of this snippet you see on TV. I, for one, probably never would have been exposed to this guys sermons, if it wasnt for the coverage and the mischaracterization of this pastor. It isnt his job as a pastor to spoon feed you sugar cubes and be politically correct. It is a church. For some reason, you think, you are hiring a pastor as the president of the united states.

"As Obama said, maybe he was trying to be 'controversial.' Guess what? He succeeded."

Good. He should be more controversial next time. People may finally learn something in the future.

"Maybe Obama WILL get to finish his Senate term afterall."

Please elaboate.

NC your Obama love is showing

I think that the PA race is going to be very close. I do think that Hillary's sniper-fire comment is going to drop her in the polls. Hopefully PA will even end up going for Obama and that will signal Clinton that for the good of the party, she needs to drop out. Obama 2008!

I'm a Hillary Clinton supporter. I've been considering Obama.

I don't like admitting it but her chances of getting the nom is slim to none.

I know many people (here in NC atleast) with the same view.

Anyway, Even though I'm a Hillary supporter, I will be voting Obama in the primary.

The longer this battle continues the more it hurts our chances in Nov.

I still like Hillary. But there's really no difference in their policies and we need a nominee now.

I've also been encouraging others in my town to do the same. We need a nominee.

so saddened,

what I meant is that the Democrats don't need people without a political conscience. That's part of the reason btw that DNC headquarters do not support Clinton.

If you're willing to be responsible for a war mongering administration that already caused the senseless death of thousands of Americans, the suffering and mutilation of many more, and of still many more thousands of ordinary citizens in Iraq, you do as you please. Don't be a coward however by saying that even with your vote you would be NOT responsible. Yes, you would.

And you WOULD show a serious lack of morality and conscience, and that's why I'd prefer not be in the same party with the likes of you.

And again, Obama won't need you to beat McCain. Anyone who studied the turnouts in the primaries, party registrations etc. knows that the Reps will be crushed by the Dems in the GE. The DNC is dwarfing the GOP this year, partly thanks to eight years of Bush/Cheney, partly thanks to the rise of political phenomenon - anf it ain't the hillbillies.

Well not all people are politically correct.

Re: NoToLiberalism | Mar 26, 2008 12:42:46 PM

Absolute nonesense! Britain like all of europe and most of the civilised world (and probably a lot of uncivilised places aswell) want Obama to win. Whats crazy is that even our right wing papers and commentators are really pro Obama.
I think what a lot of Americans really underestimate is just how disliked they are as a country (writer not included). Obama is regarded as the potential saviour of your country.
The feeling over here is that if you do not elect Obama then we should write you off for good. After 8 years of Bush this is considered to be your last chance to prove that the majority of you are not all red neck, creationalist fanatics.
I have to say i do not share these views but i am a substantial minority.
Over here Clinton is disliked almost as much as Bush. McCain gets a reasonable press but there is a lot os suspicion about his warmongering tendency's.

"Matt, Rev Wright was talking about our foreign policies being the problem. That's why this country is hated so much and that is why we are a target for terrorist."

Well, then, why didn't he just say it that way then? There are ways to say things that are far more politically correct than how Rev. Wright said it. As Obama said, maybe he was trying to be "controversial." Guess what? He succeeded.

Maybe Obama WILL get to finish his Senate term afterall.

Matt, Rev Wright was talking about our foreign policies being the problem. That's why this country is hated so much and that is why we are a target for terrorist.

Their main argument in Denver...

Hillary Clinton has won New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, and New York. By contrast, Obama has failed to win a single state with the word "New" in its name. Obama’s failure among self-proclaimed new states, raises serious questions about his supposed strength among young voters (new people) and his supposed message of change (new policies).

will, if you get your "truth" from the huffington post, we should pray for you.

Hey MattOhio:

Are you not tired of lies of Hillary. Ohio just got PUNKED by Hillary on NAFTA? If you support her, then you support NAFTA.

Since most of the polls show Obama not getting the core of the party maybe he and his supporters should run indepent

The democrats are BLOWING it, if they think they can shove an ultra liberal down our throat by not counting two of the most populous states to do it, they are nuts. I wager that MI and FL will both take Obama's name off the ballot in the fall, and that would be well deserved. And they call Hillary power hungry!!!!

dem08 says the dnc will be happy to see people like me go. dem08 apparently doesn't understand that the dnc wants and needs votes. they'll even be happy to take them from "people like" dem08.

dem08 - what exactly did you mean by people like me? in your view, people who don't support obama are just bad people, i guess....

btw, the dnc has seen people like me go, in droves, before - remember reagan democrats. the dnc was not at all happy about it. they will also not be happy that obama has created mccain democrats. but he has. and we will leave, again, in droves. the dnc gets what it deserves.

The DNC has made quite a mess here. When they penalized Mi and Fl, they assumed Hillary would be the nominee and they would go ahead and seat all those delegates. To do a revote would set a bad precident for future elections. But they can't allow the current vote to count either. Wow, what a mess.

The DNC is a bumbling group of fools! They will give this election in November to the Republicans, which will ensure the collaspe of United States of America economic system for certain. A word to the wise... the second American Civil War looms upon the horizon. It will not be a war fought over the economic principles of slavery. It will be a war fought over the economic priniples of the classes... the poor and deteriorating middle class v. the elitiest rich.

I'd like to take this opportunity to propose a moratorium on the phrase "stick a fork in (her/him), (he/she) is done".

Maybe it was clever the first 100,000 times, and it might in fact be true for HRC, but I for one am sick of it. Put another way, can we stick a fork into sticking a fork?

THE TRUTH is that the media will push to resolve the issue because they want some time off between now and the convention. Fun is fun, but their spouses and children are complaining, the golf courses are calling, baseball is starting, and the barbecue season will soon be upon us. Who wants to write the same-old same-old 24X7 over spring and summer?

I have a solution

2008 Nominee - Hillary Clinton & Obama as VP
2012 Nominee - Obama and VP of his choice
2016 - Primary is Open to any democrat

We can make history by electing Both First Woman & first African-American President

I sent this to Obama HQ / Clinton HQ & DNC.

What do you think?

so saddened,

the DNC will be glad to see people like you go. And count that with expected GE turnout for Obama he won't need you crush McCain, who tough time in media is yet to come - and it will be VERY tough. Besides, in debates with Obama McCain will shrink to a grumpy and wrinkled shrimp.

Question: Do you still think the Democratic race can be resolved before the convention?

Reid: Easy.

Q: How is that?

Reid: It will be done.

Q: It just will?

Reid: Yep.

Q: Magically?

Reid: No, it will be done. I had a conversation with Governor Dean today. Things are being done.

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By the looks of that, it sounds like someone is going something illegal, low life, or down right dirty. to get what they want. Sounds Like it is Reid.

Shame on you.

You do not care about the people of this country. You do not care about the democratic party.

NATO - Obama has Europe support?? What a lie, maybe Germany, but he definitely does not have our strongest ally Australia and Briton

Obama may or may not be anti-American, the jury is still out. One thing for sure he is "Present". If elected, he will be the most wishy washy president in history. He will make Jimmy Carter look like Eisenhower.

I some what agree with Obama on revote on MI. But what is his problem in supporting FL vote. Obama says he is a uniter.

Hillary,DNC,FL Government are ready to conduct primary.
May be that is what he learned from Indonesia and other travel he made to kenya. That is how elections are won in 3rd world countries.

tito - You bring up Hilary what about Obama

1 - The most Liberal Senator in the Senate, even out ranking the Senator who calls himself a Comunist.

2 - Connections to the Blank Panthers, (Link on his Website)

3 - Connections to a Terrorist

4 - Connections to the Oil for food scandal through rezko and his billionaire friend from Iraq

5 - His Anti-American Stance

6 - His Anti-White Stance

Should I go on?

As far as Florida and MI, in Florida both Candidates were on the Ballot, both campaigned, (Obama campaigned more, TV commercials count), Florida had a record turnout due to a proposition that was on the Ballot. So Florida should count.
MI should count also, Is it not the democrats that fight over that every vote should count even that of illegals, so they turn their back on Citizens but want illegals to count.

Don't Worry MI and Florida the Republicans actually do care about your vote!! and your lives!!

By the way are you libs going to give us hard working Americans the 10 thousand extra dollars to pay the taxes that Obama or Clinton will raise our taxes with.

some say we should end this now so we can unite for the dems to win in november. they assume we want obama to beat mccain. they assume wrong.

gallup has it up to 28% - the percent of hillary supporters who would vote mccain over obama.

that number will continue to grow.

i am in that number.

obama the anti-american, racist, hypocritical, is unelectable. get over it. and it has nothing to do with hillary "dragging this out" - it has to do with obama himself. whether the nomination is settled today or in august, he is simply unacceptable.

Push Hillary or Obama out too soon and you'll end up with President McCain. Sorry Mr. Bredesen, all voters must be heard from before a winner can be declared.

Whoever has the popular vote will be the nominee

LOL

It is the DNC that want the super delegates.

If Obama gets the nominee than the Democratic party looses more.

The DNC refused to accept Florida and Mich voters

The DNC should be ashamed to disrupt democracy in action and try to force someone out of the running.

SO it should go to convention, Because the people want a nominee who is worth having.

The DNC has itself to thank

As always BKMC is jumping the gun in his slobbering support of St. Obama. What about Florida and Michigan, and the 10 other states still to vote? I guess they don't count. Obama has won NOTHING as of yet. say it again and with me Obamabots. Obama has won NOTHING!!! Geez, the kool aid is particularly strong this morning..lol

"Things are being done??" Now that sounds like a guy from Vegas alright.

Yknow, Hillary's right. The Superdelegates can vote for whomever they feel is the best choice.

Therefore....

Dear Superdelegates,

I am writing to you in the midst of, if not our darkest hour, then most certainly one of the duskier ones. We've got recession, wars, plagues, scandals, and a bunch of other stuff that I'm sure you haven't been paying attention to. So, I would like to ask all Superdelegates to put aside their previous disagreements, and select *Me* as the presidential candidate for the Democratic Party.

I await my call to Service of this great country.

WestCoastMessager, MattOhio and s.b., the outcome is clear, the writing is on the wall. The primaries process has to end for a better fight against McCain. The 2 cadidates have done their best to win the nomination, but the longer it goes on the bitter it will be, that is not necessary. Obama has won the 2008 primaries. Period. Let us move on and prepare for the general elections.God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

Hillary is delusional, congenital liar, her campaign staff are a bunch of spineless yes-men hell-bent on power.

The only winner in this whole mess is her bloated and self-absorbed ego.

Guy I can list about OBAMA too. Stop talking about misspoken. Here is some of the list.

1.Sen. Obama consistently and falsely claims that he was a law professor.

2.Obama claimed credit for nuclear leak legislation that never passed.

3.Obama misspoke about his being conceived because of Selma. "Mr. Obama relayed a story of how his Kenyan father and his Kansan mother fell in love because of the tumult of Selma, but he was born in 1961, four years before the confrontation at Selma took place. When asked later, Mr. Obama clarified himself, saying: 'I meant the whole civil rights movement.

It is now official: the DNC hates Hillary Clinton as much as the GOP does.

What about a the new party then, the AAM, with Hillary as its leader?

A lot of folks, today at least, seem to be ready to join the All About Me.

You Yankees are such a riot. For the past 2 nights I've seen the same old posters post the same old dribble.

What can I say? Same dumb people who voted Bush to the Whitehouse are now going to vote Obama.

Wassat? Looking for President, experience not required. Must be able to unify.

Bloody morons. No wonder your dollar is so weak now.

It is distinctly Soviet to have a central committee rig a process to ensure that one candidate wins while not counting votes in regions that support the candidate the committee doesnt want.

Distinctly Soviet.

If the DNC wants to act this way and rig a nomination, they will lose the white house, without question. And they should lose.

ok then. Superdelegates should vote "PRESENT" then. Then becuase no winner emerged, FL and MI delegates are seated and counted in the second round .

As a country, we go out of our way to spead democracy in the world, as a party, we call ourself democrats, but we deny the votes of millions of our own voters. Now we want to decide the election results by the part leaders. What is the difference between the Democratic Party and the ruling party in Cuba?

Look if Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi and the DNC think they can circomvent the process and not have a vote on seating MI and FL until after thenomination there should be marching in the streets.

This is absolutely 100% not acceptable to actively try to disenfranchise 2.3 million democrats to ensure one candidate wins. That's called rigging an election.

Democrats need to stand up now with their phones, their e-mails, their dollars, their feet if necessary and let the DNC know they can't get away with this!

NO Way Dean, NO Way!

The key words are "prior to the 2025"

That means they will be seated AFTER the nomination vote.

That is what Dean is planning. Mi and FL need to let the DNC know this is not acceptable.

He is trying to go through whatever committee or process schedules motions at convention to circumvent a floor vote on including MI and FL for the nomination.

If the DNC wants to circumvent democracy and disenfranchise 2.3 million of its own voters, this will not go unnoticed and they will lose.

""Michigan and Florida delegates are going to be seated. They're going to be a part of the convention," he said. "It's a question of whether anything can be worked out to change this prior to the 2,025."

That's the Reid quote that is the most immportant in the Review Journal article, after he says "things are being done"

So if someone can come up with any other explaination other than the DNC is moving to delay the vote on seating MI and FL until after the nomination vote please offer it up.

Democrats need this news. They need it for their state conventions and they need to start phoning the DNC now to let them know that disenfranchising 8% of the democratic electorate and cherry picking which votes delegates can participate in is ABSOLUTELY NOT ACCEPTABLE!

The floor needs to vote on MI and FL BEFORE the nomination vote.

"It wasn't crystal clear, but Reid seemed to suggest that delegations from those states should get to attend the convention, but not vote."

Do they really think MI and FL won't notice that their vote won't count at the convention? Gee, that sounds like the representation they are looking for. What kind of nonsense solution is that?

Count ALL the votes!!!

Why is Obama blocking the Florida and Michigan revotes? Is this the change we can believe in?

Take it to the floor Hill!

Florida and Michigan need votes before the nomination, or the Democrats deserve to lose.

What they are saying is that they shouldn't go against the popular vote. So whether it is Hillary or Obama doesn't matter. They would go with either one

I read the full article Reid says they will be seated at convention but not be a part of the 2024.

What that means is that Dean is moving to have the motion to include Florida and Michigan after the vote on the nomination.

If Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi do this they are deliberately disenfranchising Florida and Michigan to swing steal predetermine whatever you want the nomination for Obama.

This is clearly what Dean is planning.

If this happens, those states will vote to have the Dem moninees name removed from their ballots in Nov.

whats with the folks stuff

So they are against super delegates deciding against the will of the voters unless it's for Obama. Then its ok.

Yeah these people should stick to their day jobs or they might lose them in Nov as well as the white house.

Does the Popular vote include Mighigan and Florida because voters in Michigan and Florida think it does.

Howard Dean should resign. He has been nothing but a disaster for the Democratic Party. If he hands the nomination to Obama without all the votes counting they deserve to lose.

Hopefully the things being done are counting the votes in MI and Fl or the dems can kiss the white house goodbye for at least another 8 years.

It has to go to convention unless they include MI and FL before that.