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Race and Ohio
March 04, 2008 11:52 PM
Interesting exit poll nugget from Ohio…
If I'm reading this exit poll correctly, 20% of Ohio Democrats who voted said race was important…and they broke for Clinton 61% to 38%.
That's quite an edge.
ABC News polling director Gary Langer breaks it down in an email:
19 percent of whites said race was important in their vote; 80 percent, not important.
25 percent of blacks said race was important in their vote; 75 percent, not important.
Whites who said it was important went 77-21 for Clinton. White who said race was not important went 63-35 for Clinton.
Blacks overall went 86-14 for Obama. Blacks who said race was important, 84-16 for Obama.
Incidentally, the same exit polls indicates that gender was important for 17% of voters…Those voters went overwhelmingly FOR Clinton 62% to 38%.
Those who said gender was not important went for Clinton 54% to 44%.
What do you make of these numbers?
- jpt
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Latino Americans, who are falling in love with the Clintons..remember "he" was the first "black" president. Will Hillary be the first "latina" president? If so remember to stay in your PLACE, because if you don't...you will kindly be reminded by them, you were just used for political gain.
Peace.
Posted by: factsyoucantrust | Mar 6, 2008 2:08:50 AM
I want you all to think about this at when you consider as OHIO votes so does the nation??? Ohio was the most devastated by NAFTA than any other state in the union, and BILL CLINTON is the president that is responsible for it. SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON was so sure she could bet on their ignorance, to RE-ELECT the couple that took them down the FIRST TIME she proved that a state that could fall for BUSH both 1 and 2, well you get the point :)they fell for the race wink.
Posted by: susan | Mar 6, 2008 1:52:20 AM
What a mess! Almost makes me miss boring Al Gore!
Posted by: Marianne Anaya | Mar 6, 2008 1:01:25 AM
Why is it that Obama always whines when he loses?
Hillary never whines when she loses.
I believe the media has created a monster who thinks he should never lose any election.
Obama is only winning the red states he could never win in a general election.
You can take that to the bank.
Posted by: Sam | Mar 5, 2008 11:19:07 PM
Ah, the cherished YOUTH VOTE! Any candidate stupid enough to think he can count on a bunch of even stupider kids deserves to lose. And just like the babies they are, take away their lollipop and they cry, cry, cry.
Posted by: druggstohr | Mar 5, 2008 7:08:57 PM
Its absolutely obvious that OH and TX primaries were based on race and religion. The media was interviewing voters and they played it on TV. White guy in Ohio says, "I cant vote for OBama, I heard he doesnt put his had on his heart and he was sworn in on the Koran!" Latina woman in Texas says, " Black politicians havent really done anything for the latino community. Obama is good...just a shame that he is black." I dont not make this stuff up folks! Such a shame. And i dont see the huge black voter turn out for Barack as racist. Here you have a race of people who have been undoubtley treated as inferior to others. Dispute it all you want but its true. They see a strong black man, one who is inspiring, extremely intelligent, a leader. They are drawn to him. He is what black people have been hoping for to change the view of them. They not inferior. They are intelligent. They are leaders.
Posted by: pinky112 | Mar 5, 2008 6:05:57 PM
Of course race was always a factor. How do you explain, African Americanc voting 91% - 9% in favor of Obama in all the primaries so far?
Why do we raise the issue of race whenever Obama loses a primary?
I believe that the media can be a little more constructive in looking at the issues that affect all Americans rather than focusing on divisive issues with the purpose of flaming the issue of race in America.
Posted by: SO1 | Mar 5, 2008 1:26:14 PM
Reverse racism or just plain racism is wrong no matter what.So is sexism.So stop trying to find a way to justify it because there is no way to justify it.
Posted by: girlinvt | Mar 5, 2008 1:09:09 PM
Sue,
RE: Hillary's running mate
You know something, the hypocrisy of Hillary and her supporters like you amaze me. If Obama is unqualified to answer that ringing phone at 3:00 am than Hillary should NOT consider that he is qualified to be her running mate. She says he is an empty suit who is all speeches and no solutions. Why would she or you want him as her VP. Could it be that you simply want his voters votes to join those of her IGNORANT, HATE-FILLED, MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO coalition because Hillary can't beat McCain without it. Hillary will not be winning either Texas or Ohio in November without the new voters that Obama has brought to this race.
Well, as an Obama supporter, I will use every effort and contact to encourage OBAMA not to run with this woman who stands for everything he is AGAINST from the old rust belt politics fo yesterday. Hillary has made a calculated decision that if she can't win the Nomination she would rather McCain have it so she can come back in 4 years. I believe tha Senator Obama ought to make the same decision. He ought to work with McCain in bridging the divide and if MeCain can go 8 years and do well by our country; than Obama should help him. Obama will only be 54 in eight years. Hillary will be a 68 year old female who will look like the botox injected, old played out Hag that she is.
Posted by: shelgirl | Mar 5, 2008 12:57:51 PM
Vickie, Reverse racism exists because white people held power for so long. Just like many latinos who will not vote for a black man because they were persecuted by blacks as they moved into black neighborhoods.
Ohio is still very much segregated in terms of urban vs. suburban. There are not enough of the Black professionals like you find in Chicago or Atlanta. No one makes enough money to move out of the inner city. I blame it on the horrible urban public schools that do not educate these kids.
Also I cite the fact that labor/construction jobs are held tightly by unions who can select membership as they choose.
Posted by: ohiogal | Mar 5, 2008 12:52:59 PM
BT, IA ....but Mr. Hope supporters aren't racists for voting for Mr. Hope by 86%???? 90% of the blacks in Virginia voted for Mr. Hope and no one is stupid enough to think those votes AREN'T based on race. Only white people that vote for Hillary are racists? Wake the he** up and stop being a hypocrite.
Posted by: Vickie | Mar 5, 2008 12:24:14 PM
Tactically, the Obama made the mistake of jamming the airwaves with commercial after commercial... For the late breakers it was Obama fatigue. As I voted yesterday morning, two ladies stood on either side of me talking out loud to themselves saying "I still don't know what to do" from the results, it's these late deciders who broke for HRC.
Posted by: ohiogal | Mar 5, 2008 12:18:36 PM
You know what I'm impressed by during this election cycle....
other than the younger voters, I was extremely impressed by the people in Iowa. And I have never been to Iowa, but I might have to take a trip....Iowans, to me, are what America truly is. Not this racist bs crap from OH and TX.
Iowa is what made me proud, again, of this country. It's the human element, stupid.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | Mar 5, 2008 11:55:28 AM
Here's what I make of these numbers: the majority of Clinton's support comes from two types of voters--those who are uninformed, ignorant, or in Ohio's case, just plain racist and those who vote for her just because she's a woman. It's very depressing.
Posted by: BT, IA | Mar 5, 2008 11:13:21 AM
I'm a white, educated, female - I voted for Obama because I liked his policies on health care reform, a graduated withdrawal from Iraq, and his desire for non-partisan politics.
And *yes*, I will MOST DEFINITELY vote for McCain in the general election if Clinton is the candidate.
Because I won't vote for someone who uses the gender card.
Or the race card.
Or the religion card.
To get ahead.
I don't vote for bigots.
The fact that the Democratic Party has not come down on these tactics - unlike the Republican Party believe it or not! - must mean the party supports this kind of mentality.
I fully plan to change my registration back to unaffiliated after this election. This campaign has left a horrible taste in my mouth.
Posted by: Chicka | Mar 5, 2008 11:07:55 AM
LA in Indiana, it is Obama's fault that HE had the bad judgement to do a real estate transaction with Rezko. And, he should have known that his staff was talking to the Canadians. It was either bad judgement again or he was lying to us.
I wanted to believe in Obama but he gave me reason not to believe. He has baggage also it seems- just like Hillary and McCain. He can't be the candidate of "change" if he is just as guilty as the rest. They are all politicians.
Hillary and Obama need to run together no matter who is the nominee. Obama says he is the uniter...we shall see.
Posted by: Sue | Mar 5, 2008 11:01:09 AM
only low class, underclass, illiterate folks living in Ohio? haha, it shows
Posted by: LA in Indiana | Mar 5, 2008 10:23:49 AM
Another point, one of Barack Obama's key demographics, white, 25-40 college educated men don't live here any more. They all moved to Atlanta, Charlotte or Denver because there's no jobs in Ohio (or they're Romney republicans making 100K+)
Posted by: ohiogal | Mar 5, 2008 10:08:01 AM
Its such a shame Sue, but if you think blacks sound like children, so be it. I'm sick of the lieing clintons and they have thrown african americans under the bus one time too many. AA's are only useful when the clintons think they're useful.
Interesting how you blame Obama though. Situation normal.
He's black therefore he's at fault.
The United States of whites and latinos....get used to it.
Posted by: LA in Indiana | Mar 5, 2008 10:05:26 AM
It's naive to say race and gender are not a factor. My 40 year old sister and 55 year old manager voted for Hillary because she is a woman (both have master's degree)
My parents who are 65 and 63 voted for Hillary because Barack Obama is black. (both have high school degree)
Posted by: ohiogal | Mar 5, 2008 9:57:16 AM
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