Richard Mellon Scaife (Heart)s Hillary

Posted by: jgaw | Mar 30, 2008 5:18:32 PM
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God Bless You jgaw. Too bad many more on these boards would post in such a respectful and well thoughout manner their postions on their candidates and why they support them. Instead they choose to just bash any opposing view over the head in a totally uncivil manner.

Bobby, if MI & FL re-vote, which I hope they do, Hillary will gain a few delegates and so will Obama. The reason she said today that she will stay in the race until those two states' delegate issue is resolved, is because she wants to get ahead in the popular vote count. She's currently behind Obama by 700,000 votes. That's an easier gap to fill than pledged delegates and will strengthen her argument to superdelegates to vote in her favor at the convention.

to plainly put it:
Hillary plan will cover all-and make it affordable for all. There is no reason everyone who can pay something-anything they can afford-they should be required to pay. Because if we are trying to get coverage for all-if you leave anyone out
itstill gives leverage to the insurance companies. and if people who are in need of healthcare-have jobs they should pay something-and I believe they should pay on the front end rather than the back end. and if the working poor do not have to pay-it will only cost you and me. the goal is affordable for all. and the working poor should pay something. and the bit about covering the children but giving the parents a choice-when I am flying on a plane I am told to put my o2 mask on before I put my childs on.-especially for the sake of the child. for me the same goes for the healthcare-if I am working and sick because I cannot afford healthcare I will either end up sicker-and therefore a burden on the healthcare system or i'll die. and either way my child will still suffer. and if enough adults who have the option to be covered-and opt not to-(the coverage my child has will soon dwindle down-because of the burden I have put on the system)
the only way to make universal healthcare work-is to require that all be covered. It then is affordable for all. and please do not believe what you hear about England and their system of universal healthcare. I have lived there and used that system-it is a fine system

@Deirdre
How much will Hillary gain win the right thing is done Florida and Michigan?

and Obama didn't win Texas! He lost the PRIMARY where there was a HIGHER voter turnout.

My husband really thinks that Clinton could end up being McCain's VP choice if she loses the nomination. He thinks this because of her (and Bill's) praise for McCain over Obama, i.e. experience, two people who really love their country. I find it hard to believe but who knows?

We all remember well I guess how Bill Clinton that Hillary's would be over were she to lose Texas.

Today we learn that she definitely lost Texas in pledged delegates.

With more than 56% of the results tallied from today's 284 Democratic district conventions across Texas, Obama currently is projected to earn a 38-29 pledged delegate win in the Texas caucuses, exactly as projected on the day after the March 4th precinct caucuses. The nine delegate margin in the caucuses means Obama will gain a net margin of five pledged delegates from Texas because Senator Clinton narrowly won the Texas primary by only four delegates, 65-61.

It continually amazes me to see the Democratic party, which has greater potential for across-the-board victory and greater inherent advantages this year than it's had for a generation, descend into this kind of vitriolic chaos.

I am not a member of any party, but I am predisposed, in general, to favor the Democrats in national elections (especially after the last 8 years of abject, spectacular Republican failure). But seeing the slime being thrown in the Democratic primary this year is making it very possible that I'll vote for McCain. And, as much as I hate to say it, that's especially true if Clinton wins the Democratic nomination. The ease with which she and her campaign (and, alas, so many of her "supporters" on boards like this) slip into such a positively Limbaugh-esque attack mode of utterly hyperbolic demonization and character assassination has turned me against her irrevocably.

Those of you who are Democrats and smearing each other so energetically: you're driving people like me away from your candidates.

Obama's plan is the same, but instead of forcing you to pay before being injured he forces you to pay when you get to the emergency room.

Following is an excerpt from Prof. Charles Lipson's (U. Chicago) article - RCP website.

Is this something that the voters should ignore or know more about?

"Obama's final stump also lies in Kenwood, where he was friendly with the 1960s radicals, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. Ayers and Dohrn, now married, were members of the Weather Underground, a group that killed police and tried to bomb the US Capitol. Ayers and Dohrn spent a decade on the run before turning themselves in and spending time in jail. Both are now professors and prominent figures in Chicago's leftist-progressive politics.

In his memoirs, Ayers speaks evocatively of his revolutionary days and reiterated his political commitments in an interview with the New York Times: "I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough." The interview appeared with exquisitely bad timing--on September 11, 2001.

So, regarding health care.

What does each candidate think the coverage should be? Will it be a major-medical plan? Will it be as good as the members of congress get? Will it be highly socialized like England (where the richest have private coverage)? Will it have a medicine donut like Medicare has? Will it cover illegals? Etc.

In other words, what kind of meat is in the sandwich?

Oh, yes, I see, I agree with you.Bobby
on this

Oh my god, I have wondered for months where Obama followers get their information.It is from Rush Limbaugh. 'nuff said.

@ surelock homes

if you want obama's plan then you want partial universal healthcare.

jgaw:

Why do you think Clinton's health care system is better? And what do you think about her FORCING people to accept it or have their wages garnished?

lol i think all her plans are better too, but that is the only time they get into arguments.

and the media tries to make it seem hillary is healthcare obsessed.

I am sorry, I think Hillary's plan for healthcare is better than what obama is proposing
but I will listen to why you think his is better.

Difference between Obama and Clinton is the level of their Judgement and their Ideals in dealing with our Nation's day to day deals.

You must judge these 2 candidates.Who knows better? Who will worker Harder? Who can deal Better? WHO DO YOU REALLY KNOW BETTER?
My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.
I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama ( 20 years with a Black Liberation Church -- and he tells us to open our arms to other races and faith)

This quote tells me everything I need to know.

Hillary 08!

obama would probally still be struggling with the Nation of Islam Minister question he had from the last debate-if she had not "schooled" him right there on national tv for all of us to witness.
That instance right there is why at best he should be vp. and not trying for president.
He said he was not ready for it.
I wish he had stuck by it. and not Kerry,bradley,dean, axelrod and crew talk him out of it.

@ jgaw

you don't have to check...just watch the debates...

"i fundamentally agree with Senator Clinton"
"Senator Clinton and I have no real differences on this issues"

but on healthcare...

the you know what hits the fan.

the difference is Hillary produced her plans for the economy, healthcare, student loans, ending the war responsibly, you know the list.
she produced first.
he copied
go check it
now the media will play it as if he originated the plan but not true-and she is still ahead on the news that comes out everyday. listen to her speeches-she tell what she will do over the next four year and how she will pay for them-and she also talks about what should be done about what is happenings today.