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The guy is trying to take Hispanic voters away from Clinton by trying to stir up hurt feelings among Hispanic people. Hey, it worked for Obama.

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson should be more carefull about what he says. He does not show any class. When he endorsed senator Obama, I thought, "How did he or is he going to get?" Anybody who is willing to support Obama, a 20 year active church member of the controversial anti-America church is out of mind. They must have been bought out.

“Bush’s Twin and the G.O.P.”

Any body can find out anything about Senator Obama that they want to. the Internet can lead people to place's unimaginable. so If you really want to know Obama seek and you shall find.. and you probaly wont like the person Obama want's you to believe his Is. I just hope It's not to late to keep him out of the White House..

What price, turncoat? Silly rabbit, it's the VP spot.

When those who pulled the lever for a stupid man that is dumber than most American. I always wonder, how could they?

Now, the BO camp would accept a turncoat like that, it makes me wonder about their stand on integrity. When, not if, BO announces "turncoat Richardson" to be the VP, America, remember this and ask if you would want the "only Hispanic turncoat" so close to the throne?

I feel sorry for Richardson,he is being used and does not see the real scheme.I do not know what Clinton's people may have said(Iam a supporter of hers but not a fan of everyone that works her campaign).I do not want him to feel let down when he realizes to the extent that the Bo camp is using him.I would love to know what they promised him,it must have been good.

You can not in good conscience accuse Richardson of being a sell out because he put the country's interest before the interest of a friend. That just makes no sense.

Secondly, I double dog dare anyone to find one statement made by Rev Wright that is without merit, is percieved to be anti-American (he served in the military and as a public servant) or racist. I want you to provide accurate proof that Wright/Obama's church is racist, will not welcome all visitors from all walks of life, does not accept gays, or people from all backgrounds and walks of life using facts.

All this not relevant to the run for the presidency but I want you to get to the root on the reason you won't vote for Obama and realize it has nothing to do with his policies,his integrity or his faith. Just go ahead and vote for who you want as is your right but you should stop being a hypocrite. Remember -- What goes around comes around.

Gov. Richardson is Judas! Mr. Carville was right about his assessment. He is no different to Obama who continues to lie to the American people and to name a few NAFTA; REZKO; PATRIOTISM; PLAGRIARISM; RELATIONSHIP WITH WRIGHT..
Obama thinks that race card will be his advantage but he forgot there are more white voters than blacks. He might have fooled 80 percent of his own color but white voters are not blind afterall he attended to a Racist church for over 20 years. What would that make Obama? Guilty verdict. Why would you attend a Racist church if you are not one? 20 years of deception to his political life and it's just coming out now? What happened to honest journalistic reporting from mainstream media? America wouldn't be in this primary turmoil if media did their part. ABS NEWS really did their homework and I thank them for breaking the news to the American people. Now the primary will never be the same. Obama will never win the General if ever he is the nominee. Racism comes both ways - Whites and Blacks and this time Blacks have been caught preaching racism and other despicable words. What a sad day for AMERICA. GOD BLESS AMERICA. By the way Bill Clinton doesn't need to question Obama's patriotism - AMERICA ALREADY KNOWS HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE AND HE'S BEEN JUDGED BY AMERICA!

pradeep, you are so right. and won't the dnc be surprised!

s. valenti, i'm with you.

anne, you are correct that the only reason richardson will be brought in as a vp candidate is to bring in hillary's hispanic voters.

however, it will not work.

I read a lot of blogs, and to tell you the truth, most Hispanics posting don't give a hoot about Bill Richardson and whom he endorses. They are very loyal to the lady they know has been fighting for minorities and lower income people for her entire political career. Loyalty, that's a strange concept these days.

"Strawmen" should be on every election ballot. Seems like there are always more of them around than real people.

George Bush uses them all the time. Sets up a "strawman" argument by saying "some say", "I heard", some in this country", there are some that might say", and on and on.

Richardson does the same thing here. Sets up the "strawman" (some Clinton people) then attacks it. Hard to lose an argument with a "strawman".

Obama's campaign would be lost without "strawmen". Just as Dubya would.

Hispanics not impressed by Richardson’s support of Obama

As a recently retired Hispanic Officer, I am not impressed with Gov. Richardson’s support of Sen. Obama. Obama’s proven poor ethics and covert racist views scare Hispanics. Being in the military, I know what historical truly means and Obama’s speech was a political survival speech. Obama’s speech did not sway Hispanics. In Hispanics view, Richardson is indorsing Obama solely because of his hope to become Obama’s running mate. Hispanics will never forget the Clinton’s providing jobs for eight years. Also, Hispanics will never forget Sen. Clinton support of the Hispanic community since her was in her 20s. For Richardson to be a longtime friend of the Clinton’s, his support is based on politics and shows Hispanics that he is like Obama. Both are seen as users and not as real friends.

Hispanics see the half Hispanic Gov. Richardson as a traitor and career opportunist.

So you're offended by the feeling you got from the Clinton campaign that you are only good for Hispanic votes, huh? Got news for you, Richardson.....you're being used by the Obama campaign to bring in the hispanic vote. My guess is you'll be offered VP, because Obama can't otherwise get Hillary's supporters in a GE.

This guy is a moron. How can he say "if she is the nominee I fill fight for her?" Richardson has been trying to force Clinton out since before Texas and Ohio. He said if she didn't win those states she should get out. He obviously wasn't expecting her to win!! So now that the polls have turned her way he makes his move in hopes of stopping her?? What a joke this guy has turned out to be! The race thing is getting really old, the more it is played the more it is turning people to McCain.

I would like someone to look at all the pledged super delegates and see if they voted as their constituants did, which is what BHO and many democrats want to happen, or if they voted independantly. Got some hypocrits here, to name a few...Richardson for BHO, new Mexico to Clinton; Kerry and Kennedy for BHO, Mass. to Clinton.

Hmmm. Looks like a another busy day for the Bill O-zombies.

I was planning to vote for a democrat this fall, but after seeing the controversy over wright, I would rather vote for McCain. Obama is not patriotic. Democrats will lose the general election thanks to the fiasco over Michigan and Florida. Bill Richardson's endorsement is not going affect this election, in fact, McCain has a good chance to pick up Latinos, Jewish, Women and citizens over 60. In fact, there is a good chance that McCain will pick up California.

This is pretty simple. The Wright affair and the Rezko trial are causing Obama's base to erode. That base is passionate about the race issue. His campaign will keep finding ways to hit that button. The best thing the rest of us can do is yawn.

It isn't that the conversation isn't important, it is that this isn't a conversation. It is a one-sided attempt to guilt us into voting for Obama. Ignore it. We won't be able to have a real conversation about race during a presidential election.

Barack Obama isn't the Manchurian Candidate; he is the Kareoke Candidate picking his songs from a playbook. He does that well. It doesn't mean he is a good musician.

Roger Miller. I agree with you. Sadly, I can't see anyway that Hillary can win the nomination as Ms.Obama/Gore/Dean and Pelosi are pulling the strings form behind and denying a FL and MI re vote.The Democrats have shot themselves in the foot. Obama will be the nominee, but, NEVER EVER the president.Wiith his true colors exposed Obama will be wiped out at the general election. The republican machinery will likely find more Wright links and incendiary stuff. Obama is done.sad sad, I wish the last two weeks never came and he never had those bosom ties to Wright. 4 more Bush years, the war and no universal health care.Sigh! My family of 5 will hold our noses, cringe and vote for McCain. I will do whatever I can to keep Obama from taking the oath.

I truly respected Bill Richarsdon before this.But, who would ever need a firend like Bill Richardson? He would likely stab his firends in the back, like he did to Bill Clinton.Bill Richardson is in his current state because of Bill Clinton.Bill Clinton gave him all his opportunites. He is where he is because of the Clintons.Who welcomed awesome minority leaders like Bill Richardson and several others and gave them opportunites in cabinet to reflect the true greatness of our nation and making us all truly proud? It was Bill Clinton. Well, Governor Richardson, you would join barack Obama to the waste.You are no fiend nor are you a shining light that I thought you were.Good Day, I though better of you.

Richardson was a nobody before Clinton gave him a job. After this endorsement he will be right back there. With friends like him.........

It seems that the Democratic Party has learned nothing from the Kerry-experience! Their candidate should first and formost be a proven patriot, to make a chance. I pity the ignorance and stupidity of Richardson. Hillary IS a patriot, Obama is not. A guy who refuses to wear a pin is NO patriot. What's next? Refuse to take the oath? Yeah, "it is what you believe inside". I do not buy that crap! Symbols matter, you know.

Let's see, after talking with hispanics in my family this morning (who think Richardson is a phony), some interesting information was discussed on his heritage. His grandfather was a boston-bord naturalist who went to Central America to do research for the Smithsonian. His father was born on a boat to Nicaragua. His father admitted to not liking his country and wanted more for his son. So after he moved to the most corrupt country in the world to be a banker in Mexico City he married his secretary. While pregnant with Bill, she crossed the border into Pasadena and gave birth to Bill. She then returned to Mexico City. (He is American by birth of course.) He was raised in Mexico City until age 13 when he was shipped off by his wealthy father to a Mass. boarding school. He eventually entered politics and became Governor of NM. Meanwhile, he has no significant accomplishments on record for the hispanic communities over all (except maybe NW NM) and only garnered 3-4% of the vote in a run for Pres. If he didnt have hispanic support then, what makes you think he will get it now? If there was a sudden shift it would obviously be based on race. How does that make Obama a uniter? It doesnt... it would be stealing the nomination by manipulating voters into identity politics and that would not make him electable based on the concentrations of black and hispanic populations in solid red states. Granted some of the dem states will likely vote for Clinton or Obama, but it is never enough to win an election. The reps know this well... and Obama plays right into their hands. Clinton works for all people with a plan to unite behind goals that benefit us all. She is not just a showhorse... she is a workhorse.

Let me clarify for every one's benefit. Obama will not be president even if he wins the democratic nomination.

If Obama is president. First thing he will do is meet with every dictator without pre condition, opening up relations with Osama bin Laden to boot.

Next he will expunge the FBI , and replace them with the new Black Panthers.

Then he will exersise a new tax on white people to pay back black folks for slavery.

Then he will apologize to the people in the twin towers, and ADMIT for the record 9/11 was our own fault and we did it on purpose.

Then he will ask Lewis Farakkan for their opinion on what to do with Jews in general, perhaps coming to a 'final solution'.

Then he can get Al Sharpton and Pastor Wright to take over Fox news and start preaching on there.

Then he can start injecting white people with AIDS so 'see how they feel when the shoe is on the other foot'

If we complain about any of this, then Clyburn can come out and tell us all to 'chill'.

Barack Overinflated will not get my vote, he is inexperienced and he went to that church that spewed racist hate for 20 years. He is a con artist, he's all talk and just an empty suit. I am African American and Democrat and I see nothing inspiring enough to make me vote for Barack Overinflated, who has done absolutely nothing to deserve the Presidency. Barack will not be getting a vote here. Suddenly the Clinton's who have supported the Black Community for years are called racists when this man is trying to get votes. No one seriously believes Bill Clinton or Hillary is racist. Now Richardson has endorsed him, a man that the Clintons help for years. Richardson looks like nothing but an opportunist. Barack Overinflated in a divisive candidate, I don't buy his rhetoric or his words of hope. I'll sit home on Election day.

pp -- exactly! Just like disenfranchising the votes of MI and FL...it wouldn't have benefited him. Obama says he wants this race to be about transparency. He has definitely accomplished that.

They are allowed to play the race card apparently because they are not typical white people.

pp -- that's the way that Obama wanted it so that he could clinch the nomination. the supers were designed to vote their independent judgment (something that the Obama camp tried to spin as wrong), but Richardson just gave the green light for the others to do as they please.

Hopefully using their independent judgment will show that Obama has ZERO chance of winning the general election and cast their votes to Clinton.

Wow, he's been on the Obama campaign for less than a day and ALREADY he knows how to play the race card!

An interesting slip from Richardson, who knows the Clintons quite well: he says, "You know, that's typical of some of his advisers that kind of turned me off." His advisers — not her advisers. Richardson obviously believes that Bill is the power behind Hillary's campaign.

Thought most mainstream democrats wanted the super delegates to vote the way their constituants did...Richardson endorsed BHO, New Mexico to Clinton; Kennedy endorsed BHO, Mass. to Clinton; Kerry endorsed BHO, Mass. to Clinton; etc. So what is this about the super delegates not being the ones to over-turn what the electorate has said?

I spent 10 years in south side of chicago, i made friends and saw gang fights and the inner city depressions and projects and gentrification and black churches and congregations,
i was robbed three times, while roaming places like 63 rd and ashland, 95th street and 79th street - got a clear picture of south side of chicago;
my point is this : i am not an US citizen and i understand the Wright comment, but how segregated is the population that they react to this so stupidly?
how divided is the US?
I thought I had some idea, being there, but i really feel sorry for them.
i won't say they are racial and stereotype them, but they are dumb and ignorant:

If the guy was a marine and helped to operate on Lyndon Johnson, I would be sad seeing him damning his nation, it won't never come to me as being unpatriotic.

so he can't damn his own government, the one he fought for ?

again what do i know i am an alien.
but the fools shout why did he stay in the church for 20 years, damn go to south side and be there and no one will eat you up, I was there and I am white, and you will know what he heard for 20 years, not God Damn America !

US citizens : don't stay so alienated from each other.

Richardson completely played the safe card. An endorsement now really does not mean a lot, even if he had come out for Clinton. It actually makes him look like a traitor to many people. But his choice. Hardly the trait of a leader though.

Let's see, that is two drop-outs from this race who have backed Obama. Maybe Dodd and Richardson are really just trying to start a "losers" club and just sent off their invite to him.

if Obama becomes president, the FBI will be replaced by the Black panters, and if we complain, Clyburn will tell us all to 'chill'.

Here, this should make Richardson feel better: Do not worry, we know that you being Latino does not make people support you. People vote for whom they believe will be best as President. You could make what you want of the comments that your support is too late. I believe they are simply stating a straight forward fact; it's too late, makes no difference now. People are not voting based on who is supporting, defending or promoting Obama. Their attention is squarely on him now and his numbers are going down. I also want to clarify that the comment is most likely related to the fact that being NM's Governor, Richardson would have been an influence on neighboring TX. Wow, Richardson is now pulling an Obama race play.

when Sen Obama became the President, everything that will be uttered against him will be subject to having presidential implications......very simple, otherwise you make it complex. why make it complex when you can make it simple he he he he he!

Yeah, someone is using the names of many pro-Hillary posters. It's really annoying and sad. What a coward.

Someone is using my screen name in another thread to post anti-Hillary comments....

LOM, WestCoastMessenger, DCVoter, SadStateofAffairs,

If CommanderGuy talks about 3 trillion reasons why the Iraq war should not have happened and blame Hillary for it, tell him he needs to get his facts straight.

He is actually talking about the combined cost of war in Afghanistan and Iraq derived from a book written by an economist. No actual facts in CommanderGuy's statement.

As well as the door on his way out!

Pobrecito!

LOM

Richardson will know what hit him....Hillary's upper-cut

Bill Richardson will be spending plenty of time in government after the election...in the unemployment office.

When Hillary wins the nomination and the Presidency, he can kiss any administration spot goodbye. And we'll see how his state still feels about him after this act of betrayal to the Clintons.

The only thing Obama runs on is she voted for the war. I hate to tell you this but so did 75% of the congress. The very people he has to go to get anything passed. I guess he is going to tell all of them he has superior judgement. I think he missed the big picture. With Obama's past that would be laughable.
Posted by: bk
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The others are not running for President! And, yes, Hillary voted for "The Authorization to Use Military Force Against Iraq". She did not read the Intelligence Report. Throughout her campaign she's been saying she voted for the resolution to send UN Inspectors to Iraq. Lies, lies, lies. Doesn't she know what she voted for? What about her many, many changes of persona? This bespeaks of great instability. Does anyone know just who Hillary is? Does she? Do we want a "Sybil" as our leader? The only difference between Sybil and Hillary is that Sybil did NOT know she had all those personalities and had no control as to which personality came out at any given time. Hillary. on the other hand, CALCULATES AND PLANS her persona changes to FIT the moment. She changes her persona about as often as she changes her pantsuits. This makes her much more dangerous than Sybil!!

NinaK

To get you facts about the Iraq vote, the Senate in 2002 voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq "if" Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.

Notice the if in quotes above. Bush misused this resolution and declared war.

Please report right facts NinaK

NinaK

Your earlier post on Obama introducing the CIRR bill was incorrect. Senator Arlen Specter introduced it. Also, the bill has not become a law.

Sad to say that in the end Bill Richardson is an opportunist. I was wrong to think better of him. It seems he was willing to sell out and endorse Obama. Guess you can expect, if Obama prevails, to see Richardson be given the veep spot or secretary of state position. So much for loyalty and class. Richardson has neither. Please Bill Richardson have the decency to stop saying you have affection and admiration for Hillary when you have stabbed her in the back. Richardson jumped on the Obama bandwagon not because it suited the country's interest but because it suited his own self interest.

Commander Guy

yeah right....3 trillion reasons....Economics...Nobel prize.....wow!!! cant believe you are flaunting this as Obama's credentials....it doesnt even add up

Since the Mercy Rule is in effect. And without Girls to help you out. I'm sign off.

But good luck with the:

DENIAL.

Commander man

His book talks about the combined costs of Iraq and Afghanistan....how much is Iraq and how much is Afghanistan? did you find that out.....

you have been going around telling people about the 3 trillion reasons....cmon... I know you want to support someone ...but lets be real...and do some factual reporting for a change.

Can't believe you never heard of Stiglitz.

Check that. Makes sense now that I think of.

Matt

Anger is your friend.

Matt

Bill hired the guy. He is a (maybe the) preeminent LIBERAL economist. And Hillary's guy (you) is CLUELESS. He got a NOBEL Prize for publishing liberal economic hypothesis that every democrat is proud of (eventhough they don't understand it).

And you didn't know who he was. Or what he stands for or anything in general. Or even what the War cost will be.

I am going to employ the MERCY rule to save you until (and if) DCV and Marie come back to help you out.

Good thing you got the google to make up ground to try to post something semi coherent.

BUT NO USE. DIAGNOSIS is: DENIAL.

MattOhio -- I second your motion!

Richardson and Obama deserve each other. All they do is play the victim card.

Commander Guy

Did you chicken out? Shd I stick the fork in you?

I am claiming this victory of behalf of DCVoter and WestCoastMessenger...

Again...Bill Clinton is not running for President...I hope you knew that from before..

Anyway....Stigliz had his own selfish reasons to write his book.....it doesnt really factualize any of his claims....

So the 3 trillion reason theory is debunked.....

By the way Obama spent $4 million on ads in OH for nothing......In this age of economic crunch, is this significant or not worth debating?

Matt say "Which guys in Bill's administration? Back your argument with something...no rhetoric alright"

It's Stigliz. And he won a nobel prize.

Don't u guys know your own team?

Talk about being ready on day one.

Did you know Gandhi never won a Nobel peace prize?

And John Nash who won it for his Equilibrium theory...is well not in his Right mind.

So your average Nobel winner is overrated and crazy. Dickk Morris was in Bill's administration too...dont tell me he is one of your role models!!!!

I thought you would give better facts instead of a random number by a crazy Economist.

Matt

Is the nobel prize in economics not good enough for you.

Bill Clinton thought is was.

Richardson will either be VP or Sec of State... my guess is VP... he's very good on foreign policy and helps him get votes in the southwest

Hmm....silverware....emotions..currency....is there a code now? This is an election not a Cryptography class!!!!!!

DELUSIONAL?????????

"Denial....Anger....3 trillion?

Fork?"

richardson doesn't like that people say he could only help because hispanic. why does he think obama was courting him? we all know it's because obama does so badly with hispanics and he thought they'd all follow like lemmings if he puts richardson on the ticket (or at least acts like he's going to). they're not lemmings!

lou, so right re richardson. clinton made him secretary of energy and ambassador to the un. else he'd be just some guy nobody ever heard of. sort of like when teddy was in deep trouble for reelection in 96 and the clintons went all out to help him. with friends like richardson and teddy, who needs enemies.

oh, well, i look forward to richardson having to face voters in new mexico for reelection, same for teddy. they won't be happy.

Bill Clinton's final legacy will be losing the election for his wife.

Obama sent Al Sharpton down here to Florida to make our votes didn't count. I wonder if he went to Michigan after he left here. This whole election is nothing more than a civil rights movement.

NinaK

Your earlier post on Obama introducing the CIRR bill was incorrect. Senator Arlen Specter introduced it. Also, the bill has not become a law.

Fork

Hillary has done a big favor to Obama (not on purpose) by going negative on him. It was good practice for Obama and got all his "dirty laundry" out well before the general election. The Clintons are done and Obama will win the general election in a landslide.

Joseph Stiglitz

He won a Nobel Prize in economics.

Everybody knows this..............

An ineffective Governor endorses an ineffective Senator. Yet another politician who owes his rise to the Clintons turns his back on them now, when they need him most. It appears that Obama is trying to court the Latino vote. This is one Latina and native New Mexican who is not impressed. The Clintons have done far more for our community than Senator Obama has ever done. I'm sure the multitudes of stifled Latino voters in Florida and Michigan would agree.

Commander Guy

Which guys in Bill's administration? Back your argument with something...no rhetoric alright

It's going to be easy for Obama to beat McCain. All you have to do is tie him to Bush's policies and he's cooked. Not even the right wing republicans like Bush.

That comment Hillary let her campaign give about Richardson's value seems smarmy. It does make you wonder if the Clintons thought Richardson was a terrific guy to have on their team years ago because of his abilities or was it because of his race. I really don't like the calculating, belittle, or even insult anyone, type of campaign Hillary is running. Richardson went out of his way to respect Hillary when he gave his speech endorsing Obama. He made it very clear he thinks Hillary is a good candidate but Obama is just better. There was no good reason but sour grapes for Hillary to respond with an insult to him.

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Hi Lydia, I agree with you! Mark Penn said today that Richardson's endorsement "was not an important endorsement". If Gov Richardson's endorsement is not important, why was Bill pandering so hard for it? Didn't he ask Gov Richardson, "what's the matter, wasn't two terms enough?" when Gov Richardson did not immediately endorse Hillary. The problem with the Clintons, their campaign team, and their supporters(as evidenced in this blog)is that all they can do is spew criticism and false accusations about Mr. Obama and those who support him. It appears to me the Clintons have the dictatorship mentality...if you don't support me you are worthless and unimportant, and you are disloyal and a traitor. Look at the comments on this blog, they are filled with hate, hate, and more hate! The Clinton people are the most emotionally and mentally depraved people!! But, then, doesn't Hillary project the same?

Matt

You are running out of people to shill for Hill.

Wonder why.

bk

Actually everything about Obama is laughable.....nil experience..extremist views...arrogance....lying...flip-flopping etc.

The daily tracking poll since Obama's speech have him gaining 4 points on Clinton. One more day and they're tied. It's actually a blessing it came out now... if the republicans would have waited 1 month before the general election to spring this, it wouldn't have given Obama time to come back.

Matt

Its the Fmr Clinton Admin officials who have come up with the 3 trillion reasons. People who worked for Bill say this.

Anger?

Denial?

The only thing Obama runs on is she voted for the war. I hate to tell you this but so did 75% of the congress. The very people he has to go to get anything passed. I guess he is going to tell all of them he has superior judgement. I think he missed the big picture. With Obama's past that would be laughable.

Commander Guy

Which report in the Senate/Congress/Govt has this 3 Trillion reasons documented or is this a rhetorical statement stated "out of context"?

"There ae 3 Trillions Reasons not to support the Irak war.

But Hillary disagreed with all of them."

It looks like Florida and Michigan are done... what is Hillary in the race for anymore... the fat lady is warming up.

Matt

Stage 1. Denial.

Even DCV has retreated here.

Fight on dood.

I guess it doesn't trouble Richardson that Obama came out (for the 100th time) calling Hillary a liar...no lie just