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March 26, 2008 9:15 AM

Some ugly national numbers for Democrats, from Gallup that replicate those Pennsylvania numbers from a few days ago.

Clinton supporters who would vote for McCain over Obama = 28%

Obama supporters who would vote for McCain over Clinton = 19%

“The data suggest that the continuing and sometimes fractious Democratic nomination fight could have a negative impact for the Democratic Party in next November's election," says the Gallup analysis. "A not insignificant percentage of both Obama and Clinton supporters currently say they would vote for McCain if he ends up running against the candidate they do not support.”

Grim.

- jpt

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people said: "I am not sure if my voters will vote for Clinton.

He was so arrogant when saying those words. It was that time I decided that I will never vote for him."

Yep. And remember Michelle O. saying that she didn't know if she would support Hillary?

Posted by: cappamore | Mar 26, 2008 12:07:24 PM

We the DEMOCRAST have been divided and will continue to be divided and lose GENERAL ELECTION to McCain. I am not sure that Demo will be united. Both HILLARY and OBAMA Camps are in high tension, tarnishing one another.

Posted by: I.A.T Smith | Mar 26, 2008 11:51:42 AM

For those trying to use the numbers to say Hillary's support is undemocratic, may I remind you it is Obama who said:

I am not sure if my voters will vote for Clinton.

He was so arrogant when saying those words. It was that time I decided that I will never vote for him.

Posted by: people | Mar 26, 2008 11:41:53 AM

dl: I was a democrate and I would of votedc for Hillary. But my moral convictions tell me otherwise. That is why I am voting for John McCain.

Posted by: stella | Mar 26, 2008 11:31:25 AM

dl: I am a McCain supporter.

But if I were a democrate my choice would of been John Edwards or HIllary Clinton.

Mr. Obama is a "FAKE".......

Posted by: steve | Mar 26, 2008 11:29:13 AM

Stella

I am sure Hillary is proud to have you as a supporter.

You fit her campaign perfectly.

You don't help the national discourse with comments like yours.

Posted by: dl | Mar 26, 2008 11:14:22 AM

Hillary would never run as an independent because she would never win. The dem votes would be split so McCain would win

Posted by: moe | Mar 26, 2008 11:10:32 AM

Can Democratic party nominate Clinton for 2008 and Obama for 2012 or vice versa. Is this legal.

Posted by: Tony | Mar 26, 2008 11:08:14 AM

I bet Hillary would run as an independent because ...she would have no chance of winning but she would be able to do what she is doing now...destroying the democrats and all of the things that democrats care about...keep us in a war...

all because she doesn't want to lose.

Every week her choise of continueing to fight for a contest she is losing even after some really "kitchen sink" tactics and 15 years of people putting her husband on a pedestal in the face of the Bush administration... it becomes clearer and clearer... this is about the country of Clinton and not about the country we live in.

If she wanted the party's interests and the best for the country... she would not have dragged out a fight that she is destined to lose...unless she can hide her own LISTS (which i just don''t get why those are offlimits with all the discussions of Obama's what 3 issues they keep harping on..and his pale in comparison to all the scandals and paople and l;awsuits that she has been involved in)and bring attention to every one of the few issues that Barack has had that almost anyone would have in some form or another if they ran for this office.

But that won't happen. She needs to be President. It's her "right."

Posted by: dl | Mar 26, 2008 11:08:12 AM

@Buffaloed | Mar 26, 2008 11:01:59 AM:

Perhaps it is not spite. The Hillary supporters want a president with experience and Obama has far less than McCain. He's fairly moderate for a Republican and she's fairly moderate for a Democrat. Many of us have weathered the storm the past 7 years...perhaps the notion of another 4 isn't that bad.

This is not my opinion, I'll support whomever gets the nomination. Just because there is a higher percentage of Clinton people than Obama people who said they would do this, the fact remains that the Obama supporters should not get a free pass on the issue either.

Posted by: LOM | Mar 26, 2008 11:07:04 AM

Given that Obama's support generally includes more self-described "Independent" voters, you would expect that a higher percentage of Obama's support would defect to McCain.

Since the polling reveals just the opposite, it would appear that Clinton's supporters are more spiteful when contemplating a loss by their candidate.

To me, that's not surprising. Clinton's campaign is built upon negativity and sharp elbows, while Obama's campaign at least attempts to emphasize the positive. Negativity breeds spite.

Posted by: Buffaloed | Mar 26, 2008 11:01:59 AM

I could not face myself in the mirror if I ever voted for Clinton or McCain. It is that simple.

Posted by: Mokopane | Mar 26, 2008 10:59:58 AM

Janbitt,

You are absolutely right! Howard Dean does not get along with the Clinton's any way. Nancy Pelosi is the biggest snake! I hope she does not get re- elected this year.

I was so excited when she became the first female speaker. The excitement went to disappointment fast. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid's leadership since democrats has had the lead, has been a disaster. All they want to do is name call and point fingers, nothing gets done. Any other job, they would had been fired. I am ashamed of being a democrat. It's damn hard to get lower score rating than George Bush, but Nancy Pelosi managed to do achieve that goal. It's earned and well deserved.


For the record, I too, if Clinton do not get the nomination. I will be voting for McCain. This Rev Wright of 20 years has destroyed Obama's judgment.

Posted by: Logan | Mar 26, 2008 10:59:35 AM

That's right Russell

Wright has 8 % ... Obama's floor (at the height of the worst of his rev crap) is only a few points below Hillary's ceiling.

and what do you think Hillary's DEAR and longtime friend Mr.Hsu has and Mr. Paul's favorabilities?

If you want to bring in longtime friends and confidants...Sen Clinton has a lot of them that are probably 8% or lower...

but we aren't allowed to talk about those.

This is not about them...it is about the candidate....Hillary couldn't lose any on her favorabilities if we had any chance of winning...how do yuo think she shapes up if she pulled off this nasty fight for her to drag him down.
Not even close to enough. Obama can survive these attacks...if she doesn't keep scratching and fighting to take everything down around her toget the nod in her most favorable situation...where it has been all democrats.

She succeeded in getting him in the trenches...but at least they are looking to get out.

Posted by: dl | Mar 26, 2008 10:59:07 AM

Count me also as one who will not vote for obama.
After 30 years of democratic voting it will be strange to vote republican but I will after they force Hillary out.
For some odd reason the top DNC people think that Hillary voters are sheep and will turn as one toward obama after they force her out. NOT

Posted by: toby | Mar 26, 2008 10:59:00 AM

marie marie

Ya right about for new found support for McCain. And I gotta bridge for sale, too.

It's hard to HRC's base, women but especially grandmothers, throwing the election to McCain and watching a whole generation of reproductive right gains over ruled by a McCain nominated supreme court judge.

Anyone need a spare bridge?

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Mar 26, 2008 10:55:47 AM

dl: That's higher than Rev. Wrights 8% likeability. I think Obama has an albatross around his neck that will never go away!

Posted by: russell | Mar 26, 2008 10:49:16 AM

If Hillary wanted to scare the crap out of the DNC all she would have to do is mention running as an independent! That would put an end to Obama once and for all. But she would never do it. Still something for the DNC to think about!

Posted by: russell | Mar 26, 2008 10:46:40 AM

I am one of those older (my late 30's) white people who was raised blue collar to the core and will not vote for Hillary.

I will not have another President who doesn't have character and who is not experienced at making the right decisision but experienced at playing the game and winning at the expense of the party and the country.

This is all about the Clintons again no matter what scandals and questions still lay there being ignored by the media... so here they go again bringing down the country and the party all in the name of their "right" to be President.

Yeah, that's the leader we should be voting for.

The "MSM" has not said a word about all of the scvandals that are unresolved with the Clintons because of the vitriol and anger from her supporters...you are not allowed to talk about ALL of those lists...because all you Clinton supporters get on here and start screaming that it's all made up... uh ...no...who has LISTS of scandals like Hillary...besides Bill...name me one. They have you all brainwashed despite the fact they have been caught time after time...fined disbarred investigated...charged... and it is not just Bill.

Just because you all can't let go of your blind fight for a couple that absolutely does not deserve your loyalty... but half the party can't let go of their protectionism.

The truth is Sen Clinton has a REALLY LOW ceiling of people who even like her acrossthis country...she can't lose that ...even by a few points... and because opf how she has run this primary she already has lost half of that.

HOW COULD SHE EVER WIN? She was at 52%...I would guess now she is at what ...maybe 35% likeability.

Posted by: dl | Mar 26, 2008 10:46:12 AM

By the way, Jake, I love the title, intriguing.

Taylor wrote:

"I think the percent of people that would vote for McCain is much higher. NO one I know voting for CLinton is going to vote for Obama. Large part of that is from the actions of the people supporting him"

I absolutely agree. I fully understand that that the positions and platforms of Clinton and Obama are similar, nothing really I cannot reconcile, but my firm belief and perception is that Clinton supporters will not vote Obamain GE. And, like Taylor, I agree that the Obamamaniacs are responsible for that.

I considered every candidate, both Dem and Repub. I found talent and value in each. Obamamaniacs cannot do that.

Posted by: marie | Mar 26, 2008 10:45:52 AM

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