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"You can see the old webpage, including both the Black Value System and a link to Trumpet HERE"

Now if you click on the link "HERE" in the above post, it leads to an Obama advertisement. What's up with that?

The church has scrubbed their site just as Obama's site has scrubbed any controversial material (and connections), just as Princeton U has taken Michelle O's senior thesis and removed it from the libraries records and put it under lock and key until after the Nov elections.

Lots of stuff "scrubbed" and removed from the public eye, as is the Michelle tape.

But the tape is coming..

Obama believes in Black Liberation Theology and is out of step with most of America. Scrubbing their pages and trying to sanitize the site is too little, too late. That horse has already left the barn. For many of us, Obama does not represent our values. I suggest for most people, to follow the money and you will see who really backs Obama. If the Dems are stupid enough, to nominate this empty suit, they will lose in November. It is that simple.

>>>THIS THIRD ARTICLE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT COULD BE USED AGAINST OBAMA FOR HIS LINKS TO WRIGHT, REZKO, AYRES, FARAKAN ETC WHICH WOULD DISQUALIFY HIM FROM THIS PRESIDENTIAL RACE!!!!
Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights
3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Why don't the Obama supporters ever criticize the bigoted and hateful comments of Wright, and why do they change the topic? Because, these virulent comments don't bother them in the least, and they don't bother BO. Who's side is he on? Apparently, the side of the hate mongers.

If Rev. Wright so openly spews anti-American incendiary rhetoric to thousands of people in a church sermon, is it not a logical line of inquiry to explore where the Church's contributions are going?? I'm incredulous the press hasn't grabbed on to this as an area that at least is important to investigate. We know church finances are exempt from most tax laws, but that makes the potential for illicit activity (i.e. funding ant-US organizations....TERRORISTS) even more likely in a cult like Rev Wrights.

Furthermore... you have also attempted to make his muslim roots more of an issue by bringing up a percentage of his blood relations and ancestry. Sorry man. You're claim is still illegitimate.

I understand you're bitter about your candidate not being put on a pedestal, but this notion of making my candidate seem illegitimate, based on the dross you're spewing, is just nonsense.

So, tell your friends, change is coming, and there's nothing you can do to trun back the clock; nothing you can do to stop it, and no way you can just sit back and pretend your prejudiced views are still acceptable, much less tangible.

I guess my question to you is...

How do you intend to Malign Senator Obama about the churches tax exempt status, while at the same time, keeping your church and others out of the public eye, when so many other churches have used their religious power to do what Rev. Wright has done?
The difference between them being that, most often, those churches attempt to call what they do positive for America... you know... like that freak group that goes to the funerals of soldiers and praises god for their deaths because of homosexuals? Or the religious nuts that bomb Abortion clinics, because it's "god's will".
Riiiiiight.

A little harder to point the finger now isn't it?

Obama as well, made no such decision to have a debate on race. He only accepted the reality that race would be a part of the debate whether it was relavent or not, and acted in a positive manner, and encouraged a genuine conversation rather than a superficial one.
Would Obama have been given a speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention if he was a white State Senator from Illinois? Sure. Why not? Democrats aren't known for either racism or sexism.
I like the slanted comments at the end as well. Spin, spin, spin. Sorry kids. I'm white, English is my first language, I do however speak Spanish fluently, and understand a lil German, Russian, Tagalog [filipino], and can tell you hello and ask how oyu are in five other languages. What does that have to do with anything? As far as the hypocracy bit... Riiiiiight.
Got proof?

@Kimberely Clark

Again, you presume much.

I completely agree that the church's tax exempt status should be revoked, and yes I would even go as far as you have and say that the church should be forced to pay taxes like everyone else for it's political statement against Mrs. Clinton. However, the scrubbing of the site IS the issue, at least in this instance, and that is what I am commenting on.
The issue of tax exempt status hasn't come up at all; so, I would suggest you lobby this and other news organizations to concentrate on that. As far as Ms. Ferraro, it wasn't Obama that threw her under a bus, nor was she thrown under a bus. She was called out for tokenizing his campaign as just due to his blackness, your race, my race, or anybody elses race aside, and as that somehow being a fortunate thing, and in doing so SHE reintroduced race as a factor, along with the initial reporter who brought up the implication that he may not be black enough, and Bill Clinton's comments on race, intended or not.
So, please, again, keep your straw man aguements to yourself. THIS issue HERE IS about the scrubbing of a website, otherwise it would have been titled something else. As well, I see no remarksby Mr. Tapper regarding the churches taz exempt status... that is something YOU have brought up.
As far as the idea that I would call you a racist for bringing in a valid, though, non-sequitor arguement, as it has nothing to do with THIS issue, that is completely false, and meant to paint me in the false light of looking for racism where it doesn't exist.
And that's sad. So, please stop arguing based on a double standard.

New poster here. If anyone is checking. Obama decided we needed a National Debate on Race AFTER Geraldine Ferraro was thrown under the bus for expressing an opinion. Hypocrisy. It is TAX FRAUD for a non-profit church to support a political candidate. I agree with much of what the good Rev. Wright said, but he can't say it on the tax payers dime. Would Obama have been given a speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention if he was a white State Senator from Illinois? Please. A debate means both sides get to talk. A sermon is when one person talks and everybody else listen. When a sermon becomes an endorsement the IRS should step in. New voice here. Obama is SOOO negative, he's just passive aggressive. Every time he says "the Clinton machine" there is the implication that there is no Obama machine yet he is taking in and spending twice the money. Is Michelle doing the books or maybe he has a STAFF. Another word for MACHINE. Is this clear enough for the ESL encourager? Hypocrisy = Fraud = Obama Machine.

Scrubbing the site isn't the big issue James, scrubbing the books is. It is tax fraud for a non-profit church to endorse a political candidate. Period. Their tax-exempt status should be revoked and we (taxpayers) should get back the millions of dollard the Christ Church saved. Obama can't be sooo inexperienced that he doesn't know this. Hillary hasn't gone "negative" on this one. Obama would rather begin a national debate on race by throwing Geraldine Ferraro under the bus for stating the obvious (shame on you Keith Olbermann) If he was a white state senator from Ill. would he have been given national air time at the 2004? A debate let's both sides discuss, a sermon is where one person talks and everyone else listens.
That becomes a felony when the person is endorsing a candidate at at 501C3 non-profit. You could call me a racist James, but you really don't know my race do you? Obama-zombies have so much zeal because they don't waste any energy on thinking for themselves.

Has anyone noticed that Senator's Clinton and McCain only answer legitimate questions when they are forced to do so. Seems rather evasive to me

I noticed too much credibility is being given to the idea of this scrubbing of the web site awhile ago. Seems like selective thinking to me.

Spinning of relatively harmless information about Senator Obama comes drip, drip, dripping out. Seems like much ado about nothing is getting too much air and web time to me.

Senator Clinton's/McCain's surrogates are trying to define Senator Obama's campaign as some sort of novelty act because they are trying to keep any sense of change and transcendence out of the public priority. Seems like politics as usual to me.

Senator Obama says something different from his surrogates because he disagrees with their tactics, does not condone their tactics, and most often fires them for their tactics, whether they continue to support his campaign or not. Sounds like clear thinking and good judgement to me.

Senator Clinton's/McCain's supporters want to elevate a one sided message, beyond it's credibility threshhold. Jake is an investigative reporter. He should spend more time to search out all the information instead of just scratch the surface. It would be a service to the American Public if others in the media would do the same. Thanks, Jake, but show a little more journalistic integrity next time by really digging deep and being more objective about these issues, instead of going to a website, seeing a few cursory changes, and jumping to the conclusion that there's some sort of cover-up going on.

Thanks.

Sorry Louise that's just you spinning again. No deception just clean, clear cut honesty. I know that's something that you aren't use to, but hey.

So what if we don't know who Barack Obama is? So what if he has numerous radical influences and associations? The media approve of him. It's only the presidency, what's the worst that could happen?

BRAINWASHED FOR OBAMA '08

Don't they have a new pastor now? Maybe you guys are seeing patterns in things that aren't there. I would expect there to be changes in any church, or any other organization's website if they get a new top guy.

Enough already.

Riiiiight I make sense and I'M spamming. Okay. Sorry you're offended by frankness and truth.

Has anyone noticed that Senator Obama only denounces something when he is forced to do so. Smells like deception to me.

I noticed the scrubbing of the web site awhile ago when a friend told me to check it out. Smells like deception to me.

Negative information about Senator Obama comes drip, drip, dripping out. Smells like deception to me.

Senator Obama's surrogates are trying to force Senator Clinton out because they are trying to keep anything else from coming out. Smells like deception to me.

Senator Obama says something different from his surrogates so he can look above it all. Smells like deception to me.

Senator Obama's supporters want to kill the messenger. Jake is an investigative reporter. He spends the time to search out information. It would be a service to the American Public if others in the media would do the same. Thanks, Jake.

Aside from that... I owe you nothing. I grant you only the good sense to make sure that what happened to your ancestors does not happen to your decendants.

Aside from that, you ask far more than your own personal suffering deserves. Your ancestors may have been slaves; you certainly never were.

Dear Cowbell,

Barak and Michelle were not CHOSEN to lead us; at least, not by any god. If they become the president and first lady it will be because we see nobility, and honesty and integrity in them, or that we are lead to believe that they have those qualities.

I am, as well, a 34 year old white man with absolutely no power. I do not believe a god exist or has ever existed, and I fear noone when I am facing them.

I fear ignorance though, and hatred, and bigotry, and racism, and sexism, etc., ad nauseum. Any person alive can be a racist. Anyone. With or without power, as racism is just one form of prejudice. It's important to note that.

I am a Barak Obama supporter because he does not claim the same thing you are. I am a Barak Obama supporter because he has not decided to blame the ills of this world on... a boys club, an amorphus blob of radical Islamic extremists, or whites in general. I support him because he does the people the service of distancing himself from people like that without having to be asked. I support him because I feel that when he says things he isn't blowing smoke up our butts, and I support him because he doesn't consider me evil. I support him because he would disagree with you that only white people can be racists because only, as you say, white people have the power.

That's just an easy way to not get to know me for me. It's far easier for you to know what you think you know based on some other white guy.

I'm sorry for what happened to your ancestors. And I have the blodd to prove it. It is not my fault, and I would denounce it in those times, if I was privy to the knowledge I have now.

Im not sure if oyu have, but I would highly suggest seeing the old black and white movie Uncle Tom's Cabin.

I saw it in Jr. High and it brought me to tears... of righteous fury.

And I do not believe a god exists.