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Why Pennsylvania and other states holding their primaries should vote for Hillary Clinton?

I have a belief and conviction that the voters of Pennsylvania and other states which will hold their primaries will make a historic decision by voting for Hillary Clinton. Why?
1. Hillary Clinton has a proven track record of experience and the ability to take quick and decisive action on the complex problems that the United States is facing at home and abroad.
2. Hillary Clinton has been tested for standing against the Republican attacking machine and she will be in a better position to defeat Senator McCain next November.
3. She is an agent of real change and ready to deliver results that will positively impact the American people.
4. She has a number of legislative programs to bring about needed changes that would benefit the American people and reshape the American Foreign Policy
5. Hillary Clinton is a fighter and solution provider
6. Hillary Clinton is determined to follow an “open door” policy in her administration: she is determined to make her administration all inclusive and ready to receive constructive criticism from citizens irrespective of their political leanings.
7. From day one, Hillary Clinton will inspire confidence in the ability of the American people to withstand any crisis that may arise during her term of office.
8. She is a leader who knows how to organize people and marshal resources to bring about a desired change. According to Japanese proverb, “Vision without action is a nightmare” and “Vision without action is a daydream.” Obama’s promise of ‘hope’ and his slogan, ‘yes we can’ will not deliver what we want. It is easy to inspire voters by providing them good speeches but it is difficult to deliver results after this election is over. “Change we can believe in” may also take us to uncharted waters when a leader lacks the needed experience in handling complex national problems. When a driver lacks experience in driving, likely occurrence of collision can be way up. This is equally applicable to a president.
9. Senator Obama thinks that making good speech can motivate people to vote for him but can he change this unlimited hope to reality? What is his plan and how is he going to fund the ‘hope?” Beyond the rhetorical speech, a leader must have realistic goals and the means to achieve them. Gerald Ford, former US President once said, “Personal excellence can be achieved by a visionary goal, through planning, dedicated education and total follow-through.” Hillary has realistic goals that are balanced with available resources and achievable. She is ready to fight for us and stand for American interest here at home and abroad.
10. When Obama deliver his speeches, he appears to know the answers to all the problems we have in this country. It is imperative to note that nobody is perfect in all fields of activities. Voters do not expect any candidate to be considered as a “superhuman.” On the other hand, Hillary Clinton has never claimed that she has answers to all the problems real and imagined. She has often expressed views that the problems we face now and in the future are complex and it is difficult to provide ready made solutions now without further scrutiny and critical analysis. However, she is ready to provide solutions that are realistic and positively impact the American people. During the ongoing primaries both candidates may have misspoken about certain events but apologized for it. We don’t expect perfection but expect high level of character and reasonableness. A writer once, said “It is a sign of strength, not of weakness, to admit that you don’t know all the answers.” No candidate has 100% solution for all the problems but Hillary Clinton is the most likely president that would bring real change to current domestic problems and restore American moral leadership abroad and has the ability to set priorities for providing solutions.
11. During the ongoing primaries, events have revealed that there are divisions among the democratic officials, super delegates and party members. This division will affect the unity of the party.
12. Voters should not pay any attention to the unpredictable poll surveys based on incomplete information and often designed to force Hillary Clinton to quit the race. Obama’s success in having more delegates, especially in Caucasus has been largely influenced by MoveOn.Org support and mobilization of the young for passion rather than any political expediency
13. Obama’s passionate attack on the Washington Politics is not real because he has been and still is working with those people who play politics.
14. The pressure being put on super delegates to take decision now rather then later is designed to force Hillary Clinton to quit the campaign and cover up the disenfranchisement of Florida and Michigan voters. On 04-19.08, the DNC Chairman has said that the more than 300 super delegates should now come forth and declare their support for the candidate of their choice. This is a deplorable political expediency that would gravely wound the Democratic Party for years to come. This act of political blunder will not open the venue to the White House for the nominee of the Democratic Party next November, not even in 2012. Because of the unfairness of the Democratic Party officials and some super delegates against Hillary Clinton, members of the Democratic Party will remain divided and it would be difficult to achieve unity within a short period of time. Of course, the Republican Party will definitely benefit from this political blunder.

14. To uphold the unity of the Democratic Party and to win the presidency, let’s stand
and vote for Hillary Clinton. Mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, seniors and the young, let’s stand for Hillary Clinton in Unisom. Your reasoned decision will make history by electing the first woman president in America.
15. Hillary Clinton will bring back our military from Iraq responsibly; maintain a robust military force that will ensure our national security.
16. Hillary Clinton will turn around the economy to provide a new direction and introduce a measure that will alleviate the suffering of homeowners.

Let’s hire Hillary and give her the power to enable her fight for us!

Getahun Leta

WELL SAID TERI B...It's about time someone told it how it really is! Dean cannot dictate this election!

Obama, "your chickens are coming home to roost" BTW Barak, I listened to your PA speach...not one person cheered in your pregnant pauses, because they KNOW you are a LIAR!

GO HILLARY

Every time Hillary makes progress Dean applies pressure...WAIT DEAN!!!
People have a right to vote and you and yours have already screwed up the votes for Florida and Mich'!
HILLARY will win, so be patient!

Some of the superdelegates hate the Clintons so much they are willing to totally ignore everything about Obama.

The fact that this man wants to lead our country and he is having defend his patriotism and explain why he is friendly with people that hate America is very disturbing.

Let's not forget he got the endorsement from Hamas...that's comforting.

The Democratic leadership is getting nervous because Obama did poorly in the ABC debate. That's why Howard Dean is pushing for an early decision. They want Obama. Dean, Kerry, and Pelosi want to break the Clintons' hold on the Democratic Party.

You People are so silly,, get over it.
Obama will win!!!!

obama looks like a total idiot, loser, whiner, incompetent pansy in last night's debate. so dean comes out trying to push a decision for obama today. interesting timing, no?

could he be any more blatant? clearly shows FEAR. too bad, so sad.

obama's a loser. dean knows it. just wants to be sure hillary doesn't win. he may get his way in terms of getting the nomination for obama. but no way he gets that marxist elected.

i didn't leave the democratic party. it left me.

s.valenti:
Hillary Clinton has no chance of
winning the nomination mostly because
of the proportional division of
delegates that your Party approved!
However I'm sure my fellow
Republicans will accept your
support for John McCain! Welcome Aboard!

Will Gallup please take a poll to see how much of an idiot democrats think Howard Dean is?

Jenna, NO IT'S NOT out of his hands. If that were true, he wouldn't have been the one to strip them of their delegates, and he wouldn't be the one who periodically says he'll fix it - of course Obama keeps blocking that.

Here's a "rules is rules" argument I bet you didn't know:

The DNC did not take away the VOTES of Florida and Michigan, only the delegates. Obama nixed the idea of a do over, and he voluntarily removed his name from the ballot in Michigan, something Clinton and Obama supporter Dodd did not do, which, again, reminds me of 2000 - Gore followed Florida's recount laws and picked the counties he wanted recounted, and Bush refused to pick his counties pretty much declaring, "It's over! I won! I won! My Daddy's judges will give it to me!" Apparently Obama thought better of removing his name from the ballot in Florida.

So, the votes of Michigan and Florida were certified by the Secretaries of State in Florida and Michigan, and by law they are part of the national popular vote totals, which means that Obama is only ahead of Clinton by 94,000 votes. There is NO reason anyone in their right mind would quit with that margin, and no reason any reputable leader of the party would suggest ending the election.

Here's another rule for ya, the super delegates choosing the candidate who gets the most votes is CERTAINLY well within those precious rules the Obama followers like to prattle on about when faced with the real issue of fairness. It also falls in line with Pelosi's and Obama's own statement that the super delegates must follow the will of the people.

What do we have to twist ourselves into in order to hand this election to Obama; what kind of moral gymnastics are going on here; and how can democrats so blatantly try to cheat another democrat in an election? I'm sickened at my party's behavior! We’ve got democrats in favor of disenfranchising voters, in Florida no less, the DNC pushing "super delegates," which no one ever heard of a year ago to pick the nominee, and Obama and the Obamedia pressuring a candidate who is less than .4% behind in votes, with millions of votes yet to be cast and counted, to step down and let Obama win. That’s not only anti-democratic and against everything we’re supposed to stand for, it’s just stupid in the big picture of the general election.

IF Obama had consented to re-votes, we wouldn't even be dealing with this issue - OBAMA'S fault. The DNC CANNOT, without risking losing the general election, disenfranchise Florida and Michigan - the DNC's fault for not dealing with this in a better way.

NONE of this, however, is Sen. Clinton's fault, and she shouldn't be penalized to the point of having the nomination taken from her on a technicality, nor should anyone lose their votes based on the underhanded behavior of politicians.

2009 10:01:12am. Thank you. You told the truth. And I guess we are to believe that there will be riots and cars burning if Obama is not nominated. The poll on who won the debate is as bogus as the Obama network jamming the ABC website the other night. I know people that COULD NOT get their comments posted. I personally think there were more difficult questions he could have been asked. The last time I posted those, it got pulled. Funny how Obama and his supporters can't take it. Hillary Clinton has.

I just don't know how anyone can say Dean is doing a good job. Even Obama wants to win the general election, one assumes, and Dean is making that impossible.

The division caused in this election isn't the candidates' fault - they're doing what candidates do. It's isn't the voters' fault - they're allowed to be divided. Democracy is a good thing, but too little about this primary has been about democracy.

The DNC has caused it, with not only this FL and MI nightmare, but what Dean is doing right now, in trying stifle the voices of the remaining voters. The media is doing it, by taking sides, slanting coverage, and focusing almost exclusively on rubbish. And he powerful democratic political action groups and other organizations, like moveon.org, dailykos, democraticundergroud, etc. are doing it, but only furthering the agenda of half the party.

And these are the very people who keep saying this primary is divisive and most be ended. NO, THEY DON'T DECIDE ELECTIONS, WE DO! And if we give our power to them, we'll never get it back!

I don't know what the democratic party stands for right now, but it's not anything I want any part of. Dean had better knock this crap off. I know people who aren't even as passionate about this as I am who are disgusted and fed up. He's going too far, way too far.

If the democratic party continues to act as if votes don't matter, they may not get any more votes.

He wants it over because he is in a mess with Florida and Michigan and has no idea how to get out of it. Only a re-vote will solve this. I am from Florida and I will not vote for Obama. I would rather have Clinton but I don't think Mccain is a bad person and I don't think most Americans think he is a bad person.

June?

The Democratic party has a rule making body just like the Republicans. I remember reading that FL and MI also violated the Republicans' rule too. Republicans knew in advance what their punishment would be if they violated the rules.

It is out of Dean's hands. This is the way democracy works. Every party faithful member creates rules. Once decided and agreed, you follow the rules. If Obama was in Hillary's shoes, he would not have a leg to stand on either.

If fair means that Hillary wins no matter what, it won't be fair to Hillary. If that is enough for Democrats to leave the party, McCain will win.

It is what it is.

If there is any indication that the DNC plans to short-circuit the remaining primaries to derail Clinton's campaign, I'll not only vote for John McCain, I'll actively work to get him elected this fall.

by the way, Don't disenfranchise Florida and Michigan.

I might be one of a few people who thinks Howard Dean was the brilliant choice for this current primary fight. He wanted to have a 50 state strategy so Democrats can get back in the running to contest some of these red and purple states.

He wanted to let the primary go forward even though Democrats have been tearing their own hair out over the way this level of democracy appears to the nation and the world. He said he'd stand by the absolute date for the last contest June 6th. The returns should be in by June 10th.

He has managed to keep himself out of saying anything to choose between Obama and Clinton for the nomination. He's reaffirmed out the party rules with regards to Florida and Michigan, asked them to resolve the revote that fell before the deadline, and has managed to not take the criticism personally when the candidates politicized the issue. Clinton, Michigan, and Florida know what has happened to DC when it decided to vote prior to the deadline: their votes counted because they ultimately complied with party rules and the rules committee will ultimately decide their fate if they don't comply. The same will happen here.

Now, I hope and hope that he goes out and pulls all the superdelegates together to decide what the results will be if the Democrats' uncertainty looms past the end of June 10th. Now is a good time to declare loyalty, but no later than June 10th.

I don't like it when Dean takes hits on media conflating an issue. I haven't accepted that Dean lost to Kerry based on the lack of context for that scream without relaying the surrounding noise. Misdirection is no way to report the news.

To all who shout "Let All the Votes Count" I ask you to do the math.
Take the votes that have been cast INCLUDING Florida and Michigan ; use the polling data and count the projected votes for the remaining primaries and neither have enough!

The McCain supporters want this to go to the convention. They know that there are only 2 months after the convention until the GE and there is no way the Dems can smooth over all the bad feelings caused by the Clinton mudlslinging.
I am an Obama supporter who hopes he DOES NOT get the nomination
Neither Dem can win.
Clinton did the mudslinging let her take the fall.

If Obama is elected, I think Dem party will be in chaos. Because Obama is so weak, so undecisive, and everyone preojects his own hope on Obama. There must be conflict, then there will be chaos.

We need a strong, a tough lead --- Clinton.

To Dean:

We need to count Florida and Michigan.
Why Obama says no, then we don't count?

Who is Obama? Why he doesn't listen to voters??

Dean gust wants someone to get him out of the fix he is in Florida and Michigan.

Stephanie, ya think? Dean's shown his hand pretty clearly this time. I'm sure the pro-Obama delegates are crying about the debate to him. It amazes me how soft these people are. Hillary has been getting clobbered in the dabates and the media for over a year, Obama's outspending her by 2 or 3 to one, and STILL she's standing getting nearly as meany votes as he is. After PN, she may have more votes - so they better stop the election now.

Someone tell me again why my Dad took two bullets in WWII and why I and my 4 brothers all served in the military? The Democratic party is starting to make Rove's and Delay's tactics look mild.

The entire thing makes me ill.

Howard Dean is no leader...he has failed the American people with a debacle of a primary election. Many of the superdelegates want to see how the rest of the primaries go before making their decision. How dare he urge them to declare?

Take it to the convention!

Dear Howard....Could you just please keep your big mouth shut! Every time you speak you sound more, and more like the dictator of a bananna republic!

Dean should work on Michigan and Florida instead of urging superdelegate to make decision. I think he is a pro-Obama.

I have always maintained that I will support the nominee, who ever it is. Well this is just TOO MUCH.

Amazing. Obama gets a taste of the beating Clinton has been taking for over a year, and they want to stop the election.

I WILL VOTE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION ONLY IF THIS PRIMARY IS FAIR AND ALL THE VOTES ARE COUNTED. IF THEY'RE NOT, WHY BOTHER VOTING AT ALL? THEY'VE MADE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR TO CLINTON SUPPORTERS THAT VOTES DON'T MATTER.

And at least Clinton has OWNED her positions on Wright and Obama's bitter comments, while Obama hedged on the Bosnia question, admitting his "campaign" was hammering on it, "of course," yet somehow dodging personal responsibility for what his campaign is doing? That just seemed dishonest to me. If his campaign is doing it - HE is. I'd much rather see the candidates own their positions and actions, than try and appear above the fray, when their actions don't match the perception they're trying to falsely portray.

My mother used to warn me about people who throw the rocks, then hide their hand.

This is a presidential primary, and Obama expects to take the election on technicality? They sound worse than children at a pee wee baseball game demanding the other team forfeit because one of the other team's players was late. Our VOTE is the foundation of our freedom - without it we have NOTHING!

IF Obama had consented to re-votes, we wouldn't even be dealing with this issue - OBAMA'S fault. The DNC CANNOT, without risking losing the general election, disenfranchise Florida and Michigan - the DNC's fault for not dealing with this in a better way.

NONE of this, however, is Sen. Clinton's fault, and she shouldn't be penalized to the point of having the nomination taken from her nor being forced out on a flawed delegate count by Dean or any of the Super Delegates. What happened to Pelosi's and Obama's statements that the super delegates should not go against the will of the people? They're making her fight with both hands behind her back as it is by taking away FL's and MI's say in this process, now they want to shut out other 10 states who've yet to vote. This election is as much a sham as any in Iran or Russia.

Frankly, I find it pretty slimy that Obama is jumping up and down basically saying, GOTCHA, those are the rules, I win on a technicality (one that abuses the voters to boot), so you lose and you have to quit. Some community organizer, huh?

You’d think if Obama really had this thing wrapped up as they claim, he and his supporters could learn to behave with little grace and dignity, be consolatory, as if they understand democracy and as if they actually want Clinton supporters to vote for Obama. But hey, maybe they think he can win without us. That should be interesting to watch.

Vannessa: There you go doing just like your master and bad mouthing people! You have learned well little grasshopper!

...and jgaw and westcoast...
FL and MI have a lot more to do with Hillary then they do with Obama as far as screwing it up...

remember the committee that decided how to count delegates and the process was run by members of her cmapaign back 2 years ago. Dean is following structure set up by them. Go look at the notes of how those committees were structured and who ran them.

The situation got unfixable because of the way someone after saying the votes wouldn't count used the situation for a PR stunt for her own campaign...making it look like she was for the voters...but only after it mattered to HER...not the voters.

So here we have a woman who knew the sensitivity of how important these voters votes were and she uses it as a campaign tactic... and switches ...several times her stance... trying to count elections that were similar in standing as any state that did not get to meet the candidates...(you know all those states...actually almost all the states...that started with her 20 point margins and after the candidates campaigned and voters got to meet Obama, even for a week...the numbers ended up closing to almost a tie or a win for him)...
...and that sums up the crux of what is wrong with this candidate. It is not about the voters...never has been ...it's about the votes.

but you all keep harping on a situation that divides the party and makes a bad situation worse because you have the right to.

No actually HAMAS supports Wright and by sitting in the church that Sunday and reading his little bulletin - Obama is right in step, Vanessa.

Are you ever going to apply the same standard to this clod that you apply to Clinton? Ever? She is a liar. She is deceitful. She has land deals that are crooked and contorted.

Let's see - He has Ayers for a donator, and remember, Ayers company is connected to an Obama vote in IL. Ayers made a lot of CASH from that vote. And so did Khalidi - who is a terrorist supporter. So that's TWO terrorist.

He has a cousin who Obama admires, that is killing folks over an election he didn't win - BBC says Genocide charges are upcoming on Odinga. But Obama loves him some cousin.

We have Selma as a lie, plus 67 others I have SOURCED and found - still haven't googled my list yet, eh? Let's just see a Vanessa comment getting 166K hits. Obama's Laundry List Of Lie - google and see if we are all liars, please. I dare you.

Next we have Rezko, divided contracts, slipping in slots of land, and having Auchi money help you get your property - meanwhile Auchi is connected to the Food For Oil Theivery in Iraq - another nice connection for Barack. Makes you wonder why Barack is so against war there. Perhaps Auchi will be the new Karzai - awarded a Presidency for a favor? I think so.

Then we have the University of Chicago scam - making $100M in profit at a non-for-profit hospital (I don't need to source these claims - I already have, and they are at this moment getting ready to be published.)

We have him speaking out of both sides of his backside as he talks about accomplishments. As I have said to others I will say to you V:

I will rent you the car. You drive to Cabrini Green. His old stomping ground. Richard Taylor land. The place he was charged with helping and fixing for *****8****** years.

So we are going to rent you a car. You drive there. Turn off the engine. Get out and close the door.

Then, after the CSI unit scoops up what’s left of your DNA by the front tire, then we can ask your family if they aren’t proud of what happened to you. After all, you were merely visiting an area that Obama had 8 years to deal with. You were simply investigating the Messiah’s capabilities. You were seeing just what he can do for America. Obama can do for you, America, what he did for His Own.

Too bad you and your answers can fit into a Ziploc Sandwich bag, with room for a grapefruit.

HE HAS DONE NOTHING FOR ANYONE BUT HIMSELF. HIS HOME DISTRICT IS LIKE NAZI GERMANY AFTER THE BOMBING AND MINUS THE CHARM.

He has done ZILCH except promote himself up the ladder at the expense of anyone and everyone that got in his way.

So, after they clone you from the few blood cells left on the pavement at Cabrini, maybe you can come back here and explain to us, just what an afternoon in the Southside did for you.

After that meltdown Wednesday one can see why Dean and Obam are so nervous and want to shut down the democratic process! Why would we want all the people to vote and count the votes of those who have voted? What do they think this is a democracy or something? It is amazing to me the fear that Obama and his supporters have about the democratic process. They say they have things under control and that they can win, well whats wrong with letting the process play out? It is ironic that a party which has as its name Democratic is willing to be antidemocratic because a few party big wigs are afraid that their guy is getting beat up! Well for all of you who want to throw a roadblock on the road to democracy I say no not ever! Too many young men and women have died in Iraq fighting for our right to vote and no left wing liberal who did not serve his country is going to take that away! This process should go all the way to the convention if thats what the people want! All polls are consistent with the fact that they want this contest to go the distance if they want to stop it they can with their votes, not because some party boss says it is over!

I will vote McCain to keep out Obama

Sally J., you wrote: "Then why not move the convention up to June?" Actually that is not a viable solution. Many states have state conventions (and some have county conventions before the state conventions) that determine who the actual delegates will be in the national convention.

Jgaw,

Well said, especially the part about the failure to address Florida and Michigan in this Democratic process.

There are several reasons that the SuperD's haven't moved:

1) Obama can't close the deal because he's just an empty suit. He rode an early wave of a press honeymoon, which gave him a numbers advantage which has since stopped accruing.

2) SuperD's don't want to lose the fall election with Obama.

3) Timing is everything. If Hillary Clinton wins by 12-15 points in Pennsylvania, you'll see 50 or so SuperDelegates move in her direction immediately. At that point you can toss a coin.

4) Vanessa doesn't want it to end, because then she would lose her job.
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Obama, the never-ending story, can't close the deal!
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Imagine if George W. Bush had ended up chairman of the RNC somehow. That would have been sweet. and s.b. that is the first thing I've heard about Obama that ive liked in a long time

Lauren: Obama is not qualified to be president..there is so much more about him that will come out when the Republicans and Karl Rove get started with him! Rove is practically foaming at the mouth in his excitement over an Obama candidacy! Hillary is standing up and fighting for Democracy and the Democratic Party by staying in the race!These old Democratic loser candidates - Dean, Kennedy and Kerry - are destroying the Democratic party. But maybe that's really what they want to do. Obama said it in San Francisco, the Democratic party doesn't want or need these religion clinging, gun clinging, blue collar idiots anymore. The DNC is going to be the party of the Left for now on, and women, whites, jews, latinos, and anyone over the age of 45 can go elsewhere. And if you live in FL or MI, the Democrats don't want you either. Say hello to President McCain! Thank you Hillary for standing up and fighting for Democracy!!!!

Vannessa: Where did you get that infromation? From Rev. Wrights church bulletin?

SCREW-EM
HILLS WORDS TO THE WORKING CLASS WHO
WOULD NOT VOTE FOR BILL.

WELL HILL WASNT IT YOU WHO SAID WORDS
MATTER? REV. WRIGHTS WORDS?
WELL SO DO YOURS=SCREW YOU.
ONCE A LIAR ALWAYS A LIAR.

russell, The democratic party needs me a lot more than I need it. I have healthcare, my children are educated, we are in the 6%. I can stand to live with a republican president, especially if it is McCain. He is a good man and yes he does love this county.

the RULES say they do not have to choose now. Are we breaking that "RULE" but still not allowing FL and MI voters to count?

democraticprocess: That is what we must do, we should not be stupid like Obama supporters were when they voted for Nader! We must make our votes count and prevent the left wing from taking over the country like they have taken over our party! Hillary or McCain, they both love america!

TCG,
Please let me remind you who Dean is:

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooooooowwwwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

He sounded like a cat on methamphetamines, but his career future sounded like an exploding balloon.

Now nobody listens to him, he's a limousine liberal latte-drinking joke.
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Obama Bittergate, embittering one elite voter at a time!
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I will not throw my vote away voting independent, I will use my vote to keep Obama out!!!!!! Vote McCain

from my point of view-dean, the media, and obama that have screwed the party.
obama has screwed the black community

President McCain, brought to you by Howard Dean and his cronies.

Dean should be worried because in 2009 a Republican will not be President, the Democrats will win because all 3 candidates are Democrats...go figure...

although I want Sen. Clinton to win
but that aside, what is the deal with you people making comments,that want
the democratic process hijacked?
that is a bad example for the future.
vanessa, this should bother you also,
why should sd be pressured to make up there minds now? Howard dean under the guise of wanting to heal? by denying mi and fl the vote, there will be no healing for a long time-really just shows how out of touch dean is.
If Obama wins the nomination
How does he think sen clintons supporters will heal in two months?
How does he think mi, and fl will heal?
if the sd decided now and crowned obama
what is the point in going to denver?
I do not know what qualifies a person to be chairman of the dnc-what I do know is Howard Dean has shown he is not qualified.

Lauren,
Thank you for not shouting about it.
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Obama and Bittergate! Lest we forget!
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Healing Time???
Healing from who???
Those who will say Barack unelectable?

Or those saying Hillary stole the Nomination?

This should have been done along time ago.

But win at any and all costs Clinton
could not see what her staying in was doing to the Party? Do you Dean Honestly believe even if the supers come forward now will help?
She will fight to he death or the death of the Democratic Party!!

I believe it is to late.
The Party has been damaged.

Hillary's statement to Bill SCREW-EM
WELL THTS EXACTLY WHAT SHE HAS DONE TO THE PARY!!!

to some extent a lot of damage has already been done... we now have very clearly let the Republicans and the American public know that these "value" issues etc... should be the focus of debates...

Clinton and supporters have now let it be known and argued that all this crap is fair game and the first half of debates and news cycles should focus on "vetting"

Unfortunately those vetting questions and issues were only on Obama... so now the tsunami awaits for the republicans to let go all those issues from the past and no one is going to be able to clearly say... "focus on the war, healthcare, the economy, etc."

because the republicans now have a stronger argument to say the other stuff is what needs to be talked about.

Nothing like digging away at the "higher ground" because you're losing there.

It's not about succeeding with these issues and the values of the democrats... it's about Hillary getting a "fair shot at her Presidency"

No, those values aren't screwed up. Her presidency outweighs whether we get out of Iraq or get our standing back in the world or healthcare having a shot...

...but keep fighting for Hill. Just carry the lifeboat because it is now "okay" to focus on "relationships and friends of friends" in debates.

Vanessa,
I love it that you are saying this won't get to the convention because the Latte Mafia, that is, Dean, Pelosi, and Reid say so. Sorry, nobody has been listening to them, nobody is listening to them now, and nobody will listen to them going into the convention. If I were a superdelegate I'd be holding until the last minute. Why? Better deals to be made.

The very few people that have committed in the last few weeks have done so because of family pressure. You know why, kid pressure. Who's getting to the kids? Well it seems that the Obama campaign have dispatched a small group of hip hop stars like Talib Kweli and Most Def to get to the kids.

By the way, who is Talib Kweli? He's a rap star out of New York who is buddies with Minister Farrakhan and has ties to the former Black Panthers. As a sideline Kweli also promotes revolution. Now there is a real role model to be feeding the kids.

The people finish voting in June. There is no exuse for why they need the super delegates to vote NOW.

They are SUPPOSED to vote at the convention anyways.

The Obama people just want to keep changing all the rules anyway they see fit all the time .

The more they do this, the more Clinton will go to the convention. Nobody has the authority to stop her. Obama CANNOT be the nominee until they cast their vote at the convention. Those are the rules.

By then Obama will have completely self destructed and be unelectable, not that any of these IDIOTS care.

All they care about is making sure Hillary isnt the nominee.

If I remember correctly, Hillary not only whined, she CRIED

She started whinning at the Ohio debate I believe, She complained of always having to answer the questions first question

She even went further into quoting SNL

Bill Clinton has whined about the media's treatment of his wife... on more then one occasion

So Bill Clinton flat out lied when stating Hillary never whined

Vanessa: Howard Dean and Pelosi should be run out of Washington for the way they have run the DNC and this election process. MSNBC and CNN spend 24/7 pumping up Obama, and slamming Hillary, so of course it hurts her. But you don't hear Hillary whining..Obama has ONE TOUGH debate and the whining coming from Obama and his young supporters is deafening...Obviously, the young people are products of "Helicopter Parenting" and when they don't get their way, waaahhhh, someone fix it...it's not fair....we demand you change it....waaahhh..and of course, Howard Dean, in true "Helicopter Parent" style, orders the superdelegates to end this election now so all of these young people get their way and are happy! To h-ll with Democracy, G-d D--m Democracy and the Democratic party, only 38 states should count for the nomination!

Hey tapper. More Obama stumping.

You know full well that its only 6 weeks left until June 3rd. Nobody needs a decision by the super delegates before everyone has voted.

How about getting michigan and florida to count ?

For a minuite there we were starting to believe that you want Clinton out of the race so that Obama could simply seat all the delegates as voted.

Therefore they couldnt hurt the BELOVED Obama , hand picked to be the SOCK PUPPET by Kerry , Kennedy et all to TAKE CONTROL OF THE PARTY away from the Clintons.

Then Obama can play kissy face with Michigan and Florida even though he wasnt the one who wanted their votes counted.

Yes they do need to start to come forward now.

DR. Dean you are the disease that drove me from the democratic party. I have now registered as an independent, I advise all to do the same. This Barrack Messiah being shoved down our throats and the FL. MI. fiasco has been the Dem's disaster. I will not vote for a newbie un-vetted, inexperienced person, period. If the supers fall for this crap I will never bother to vote for a DEM ever again.
Absolutly no vote for BO and I will write in HILLARY CLINTON!

Say hypothetically Clinton wins PA by 10... likely, not so sure

Obama win NC 15+

Erase delegate net gain and popular vote from PA

IN is a toss up

MI and FL will NOT count as voted in Jan. If they were, it would have happened.

Let go of that idea also. Their delegates will count but not as voted in Jan.

Their popular vote will not count

We all know if this doesn't go to the convention... Hillary has no chance

With all three DNC leaders basically bolting for Obama and reassuring voters this will not go to the convention

Hillary is what I call screwed

This what happens when one thinks their name is enough to get them a job

Apparently NOT

I am suppose they have it covered good.
but if there could be-there should be an investigation into dean and how this whole election process happened.

I did hear last night-and agree-one of the talking heads on tv said.
Dean and the bigwigs in the democratic party would rather lose that to let Sen. Clinton be the nominee.

He feels there is an all out campaign to keep her from winning.
this person pointed out all the things that the msm has overlooked and covered up about obama-that will come out in the ge-they feel he is the one who is unelectable-because the more we go on
the more it is revealed-not only his past associations-but that he really is flat-out not qualified to be president
referring to what he said in debate about the payroll tax, capital gains taxes, and what he said about the middle east.
plus we see he does not bear well under
pressure.-things we do not need in a president.

Someone needs to remind Mr. Bill that Hillary was crying in NH when the "going go tough"

They are such punks

Vanesa you are right democracy does not concern only big states, Dean is right also, the last democrat's debate in PA was uggly because it was orchestrated by ABC/FoxNews's George and Hannity. It is useful that Obama has put an end to that crazyness. SDs will make up their mind based on the outcome of the campains: which candidate has shown that she/he is a leader with management skills and managed the best campaign, number of pleadged delegates, number of states won, likability and who can beat McCain and popular vote and decide before the end of the first week of June. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

And Vanessa it is not up to Dean, Pelosi or Reid to decide whether or not this goes to convention.

That is only Hillary and Barack's choice.

Unless there is only one candidate there is a vote at convention.

Hillary is taking this to the floor.

Obama is totally unelectable. He doesn't even win NY in another recent survey far less the swing states. He is a disaster for the democratic party.

Take it to the floor Hill!

Mr. Dean,

You are incapable of leading the DP. Ask yourself who is the best candidate to beat Mr. McCain.

Vanessa Clinton most certainly will be ahead of Obama in the pop vote, the electoral college vote and in the every swing state that matters vote.

Count MI and FL, two of those states that matter.

Obama will NOT be ahead in the POP VOTE.

Vanessa, will you please tell me what the convention is for?

Howard Dean needs to be run out of Denver on a rail, old style.

And Nancy Pelosi needs to pay more attention to her day job, which isn't going so well.

Take it to the floor Hill!

I partically agree. After NC. Obama will win 15+

Once Clinton supporters realize she won't undertake him with the popular vote, states, nor pledge delegates then we move on

This will NOT go to the convention. Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid say so.

Clinton supporters, drop the idea.

Let PA, IN, and NC vote

After those three states, SDs should have an idea of whom their voting for

Clinton had this coming. Bad organization... BIG state just won't cut it

Yeah Howard Dean's 50 vote strategy is now a 38 vote strategy, most of them Republican or caucus states.

Way to go Howard!!!

Democracy is so inconvenient isn't it.

I'm sure the American people will let you know how inconvenient it is in Nov, when the dems lose the white house again, if you don't count ALL the votes and let this process finish.

I think one thing is for sure,
for any of us who might stay in the democratic party-we will get more involved to find out how do we decide on and get rid of a Chairman of the party.
Because we need to get rid of Howard Dean.

It may be the only issue the dem.party is united on.

HOWARD DEAN NEEDS TO GO.

count fl and mi

DEAN NEEDS TO GO!

Perhaps he could DEMAND a decision from the DNC committee that's sitting on a proposal to seat Florida and Michigan's delegations.

NO ONE should be pressured to support anyone publicly. Contrary to Mr. Dean's version of democracy delegates actually get to cast secret ballots.

None of them have to EVER declare publicly who they support.

Count the votes in Florida and Michigan and take this to convention. let them make speeches. Let them convince delegates.

IT'S WHY THERE IS A CONVENTION!!!!!

Seems that Mr Dean and Ms Pelosi like to change the rules whenever it suits their candidate, Mr Obama.

There are no rules that require super delegates to EVER declare who they voted for at convention.

katmandu...don't slam Vermont. More military personnel have been killed in Iraq from Vermont (per capita) than from any other state. It may be small but it's just as imporatnat as any other state.

I am about done with the democratic party, the only reason I have not changed is I am still hoping Hillary gets the nomination, that is the only thing keeping me in the party. I would rather be a republican than a democrat that pressures superdelegates and disinfranchises voters. I cannot understand why they are having a convention. Sign me fedup.

Ahhhh....I see.....Howard is getting a little weak in the knees after the debate. His man, Obama, performed so poorly under the heat of appropriate questioning. People will NOT heal if this race does not play itself out. The longer it goes on the more telling it becomes how ill-equipped Obama is for the presidency. Kindly and respectfully, Howard Dean, STAY OUT OF IT!