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Audio: Clinton Camp Testing Attacks on Obama

April 25, 2008 10:56 AM

On Wednesday, Obama-backing musician in Black Mountain, North Carolina, David LaMotte, got a phone call from a pollster for Sen. Hillary Clinton, Garin-Hart-Yang, in which negative messages against Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, were being tested.

The Garin in Garin-Hart-Yang, incidentally, is Geoff Garin, who has an op-ed in today's Washington Post complaining that the Obama campaign is the one that's negative, not Clinton.

Ahem.

"I'm going to read you a few criticisms opponents might make about Barack Obama," the pollster said. "For each one please tell me if they give you very major doubts, fairly major doubts, some doubts or no real doubts about supporting Barack Obama for president.

"At a time when we need leaders who are clear, strong and decisive, Obama has been inconsistent, saying he would remove all troops, but then indicating that he might not, and pledging to renegotiate NAFTA, but then sending signals that he would not actually do so as president.

'He supported George W. Bush's 2005 energy bill which paid six billion dollars in subsidies to the oil and gas industry, nine billion dollars in subsidies to the coal industry and twelve billion dollars in subsidies to the nuclear power industry. It was called 'a piñata of perks' and 'the best energy bill corporations could buy.' Would that leave you with major doubts, some doubts or no real doubts?"

You can listen to some of the call, which LaMotte record and emailed to me, HERE.

Says LaMotte, in an email, "the questions, as you'll hear, are unanswerable if you don't accept the basic premises laid out in them, like the classic push poll example 'Are you still beating your wife?' You can't answer that 'yes or no.' I don't accept that Barack pledged to walk away from NAFTA OR that he 'sent signals' that he wouldn't really do it as president, both of which are premises for the question. Like Hillary, he pledged to renegotiate, and to walk away if other parties refused. And having unpaid staff in a misrepresented casual conversation in Chicago over coffee with someone from the Canadian embassy I don't accept as 'sending signals.' So how do I answer this question: 'Would that leave you with major doubts, some doubts or no real doubts about Senator Obama's candidacy?' Well... if it were true, it might leave me with some doubts, but it's not, and that's not an option for an answer."

LaMotte adds that "the really sad part of this is that I was excited to be a part of a poll.  Unlike a lot of people that would have considered it a nuisance, I've been following the polls around the country closely, and I was thrilled to have the opportunity to weigh in on one in my own state.  It was terribly disappointing to realize that I was just being manipulated.  It's hard to see how these could generate any useful data either, given that most Obama supporters would simply hang up offended when the questions got so insulting.  That leaves you with data that is skewed pro-Clinton."

Incidentally, LaMotte would be happy to hear from you on his blog.

h/t dailykos.

- jpt

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And Obama will NEVER BE PRESIDENT .


LOL
BECAUSE OF HILLARY I'VE LEFT THE PARTY! HILLARY WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT WITHOUT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTE! WHY WOULD ANYONE VOTE FOR THAT LYING, CHEATING, SAY ANYTHING EVIL WOMAN? WHAT IS ALL THIS EXPERIENCE HILLARY HAS? I NOTICE NO ONE EVER SAYS WHAT THAT EXPERIENCE IS. HECK EVEN HILLARY COULDN'T NAME HER "SO CALLED" EXPERIENCE. THIS IS THE END FOR HILLARY. SHE WON'T WIN NOW AND SHE DAMN WELL WON'T WIN IF SHE TRIES TO RUN IN 2012. BILL & HILL BYE BYE!

Posted by: Scott | May 6, 2008 1:35:10 PM

Why is this only here? This is an official part of Hillary's campaign.

Is ABC afraid to report slander because of it's own shoddy recent past?

C'mon, earn some credibility and report this front and center.

Posted by: Nick | May 1, 2008 2:15:50 PM

My mother always used to tell me, " You can tell a person's character by the company that he keep." Wright's message it seems has been quite consistent for a while now and he has definitely influenced the Obama's because in unintended moments it comes through. For e.g. Michelle when she makes statements about just recently being "proud" of America, or when Obama makes statements about middle America being " bitter" and "clinging" to their guns and religion. Wright has influenced their way of thinking and public speaking no matter how you choose to interpret it.

Posted by: mona | Apr 29, 2008 5:35:14 PM

Blah! This is exactly the ugly political games Americans are sick of. ABC, why is this story not on your Evening News? Good Morning America??? Maybe tomorrow, huh?

Posted by: Sue T123 | Apr 27, 2008 10:35:36 PM

Starbuck1979 said
"In her last two contests alone Hillary has won with a combined 20% over Senator Obama.
Obama lost in a landslide in Ohio and PA."

Right. Nevermind the Wyoming caucus and Mississippi primary which fell between OH and PA, where Obama won 61-38 and 61-37, respectively.

Not only that, but if Clinton wants to talk popular vote that tally is skewed as well, since not all the caucus states kept a popular vote tally, which by Clinton logic makes those states matter less than, well, states that she won. You say Obama is alienating people. Hillary alienates whole states (caucus states don't count, "red" states don't count - did it ever occur to her that people in those red states might be worth fighting for...possibly turning those into "blue" states?).

Between the push-polling, the changing of what she feels are the deciding factors (first pledged delegates, then popular vote, next will probably be hair length), agreeing to shut out Florida and Michigan, only to change course when it serves to her advantage, and the lack of transparency of her campaign (if you can't keep a campaign out of red figures, I don't want you spending my tax money), if her and Bill are truly the leaders of the Democratic party, then there is either going to no longer be a Democratic Party, or the Clintons will need to form their own third party.

It's clear they have no intention to do what is right for the party, so they might as well go on their own.

The early 20th century had the Bull Moose party, I guess the Clintons' would be the Bull Mess party.

Posted by: indianaindependant | Apr 27, 2008 9:25:20 PM

As a lifelong DEM for over 25 years I call on the Super Del. to endorse and back Senator Hillary Clinton. She is the best choice for America. In her last two contests alone Hillary has won with a combined 20% over Senator Obama.
Obama lost in a landslide in Ohio and PA.

Hillary connects with the white vote the way Obama can't. It has been proven in election after election that Obama can't win a majority of white votes of all backgrounds and Hispanics. Also, the lower income proud people and women of all backgrounds can't be won by Obama in mass.

Us Hillary supporters are asking for your backing. Hillary and us will welcome Obama and his supporters.

If Hillary is not the nominee there will be no DEM in the WH. A vast majority of us see Obama as a no experienced DEM. Also, we see Obama and his followers as cult like. And we don't vote cult. Ever. And we wouldn't vote for Obama if he were the last person on earth. If Hillary is not the nominee her suppoters will vote in mass to either:

Mc Cain
stay home
Nader
Become Indep.

And Obama will NEVER BE PRESIDENT without a mass amount of Hillary voters. Obama will never get that. We DON'T TRUST OBAMA AND WE WON'T VOTE FOR HIM. We will leave the party, never to return and take our millions in donations with us.

We are the backbone of the party. We are always there for the DEMS. But if you choose to nominate Obama, you will have left us. You will have thrown your loyal DEMS over the side for a unknown.

Obama and his cult fickle supporters will bring down the DEM party. When we don't vote for Obama he loses in a landslide to Mc Cain. Then his cult followers leave the DEM party for greener ground and we will never return unless Hillary is the leader again.

The Clintons are leaders of the DEM party and if you throw them over board, you throw us. When you show the Clintons no respect, you show us NO respect.

A DEM can only be in the WH if Hillary is the nominee. She will beat Mc Cain on issue after issue Obama can't. It is up to you to get the DEM party back in the WH. Please bear this in mind when your making your decsion.

And Hillary as well as President Clinton are wonderful people. But if you should choose to decide on Obama, nothing they will say will sway the way we feel about Obama. Unlike Obamas cult, we follow our own will. Another reason you should pick Hillary. His people will do what ever he tells them to. We think for oursleves and nothing will change that.

We want a DEM in the WH so much. But only Hillary because she is the most experienced and trusted person between Obama, Mc Cain and Hillary. And please allow all the votes to be counted including FL and MI.

Between my family, friends and I there are 24 of us that will never vote for Obama. And we are in touch with other Hillary supporters that will never, ever vote for Obama. All of us have donated hundreds of thousands over several decades to the DNC. We stopped over a month ago when Hillary was being treated less than human buy the DNC.
Support Hilary and show the Clintons and her supporters that you give us the respect we deserve.

Posted by: Starbuck1979 | Apr 27, 2008 12:50:29 AM

Just more gutter politics from Clinton.

Posted by: Election Blog | Apr 26, 2008 8:36:41 PM

HoosierSue,

Amen. Did you know Obama didn't step foot on the mainland of America until he went to college in LA. He has no idea about state side American values. Hawaii and Indo. are great but there is no accounting for good old fashioned American values. Obama has no idea what that means. He can never be president of all of us. Obama has no clue.

Posted by: Starbuck1979 | Apr 26, 2008 8:04:31 PM

Aston, not only do Hoosiers value their faith and second amendment rights, in good times as well as bad, but we also don't take kindly to being called bigots by elitist presidential candidates. Go figure!

Posted by: HoosierSue | Apr 26, 2008 7:21:07 PM

It is tea time at the Obama home. He is so full of it. Obama and his people wine all day, everyday about NOTHING. If you can't stand the heat Obama, get the he!! out of the kitchen!

And if you can't stand up to Hillary how in the he!! are you going to defend America against terror treats. OMG if this wimp gets anywhere near the WH!

And Obama you want to be president? Hah,hah,hah,hah,hah,hah....you cry at the drop of a hat. Go Home!

Posted by: Staruck1979 | Apr 26, 2008 7:14:51 PM

Thanks for reporting this.
C'mon, people--speak up when you hear and read of this kind of distortion and manipulation. It's insulting and disrespectful of our intelligence, and it's damaging to our nation.

If Clinton engages in this kind of behavior as a candidate, can you imagine the deceit and abuse of power we'd be subjected to with a Hillary Clinton presidency?

I, for one, do not want to find out. We can't afford to as a nation. We've had year after year of it, and look where we are now?

We all deserve better!

Posted by: JustConsider | Apr 26, 2008 6:48:25 PM

The focus of the pollster's op-ed was the fact that the Obama campaign's attacks on Senator Clinton have been extraordinarily personal in nature, attacking her character-- she is portrayed as calculating and not to be trusted. The recorded phone call merely demonstrates that the Clinton campaign is attacking Senator Obama's policy positions and record. Policy should be the central focus of the campaign-- not personality. The media is comfortable talking about personality in stereotyped ways--they are always pushing the line that Obama is fresh and inspiring while Clinton is caluclating and not to be trusted. If only the media had the smarts and talent to discuss policy without always returning to their soap opera of heros and villains.

Posted by: Dan S | Apr 26, 2008 2:44:30 PM

This is one Ind. that would never vote for Hillary. It's not personal, it's business. The woman is a liar. I can't believe she is bringing up this NAFTA stuff. She didn't push NAFTA and din't like it. Yet, video tape of her clearly showing her supporting it and going to dinners etc. to push the idea. Oh and let us not forget Mark Penn!!! This woman is morally challenged and no way in hell would I ever trust her with any policy. The Dems have my vote come Nov. But, if she is the nominee my vote goes to Nadar. And in 2012, I volunteer and run a massive grassroots effort from my very living to help defeat her - when a more capable woman runs....

Posted by: Jon | Apr 26, 2008 2:11:05 PM

I am a former Marine and quite frankly anyone who can make up a story about BEING FIRED AT BY SNIPERS IS JUST DOWN RIGHT SICK AND DECEPTIVE (not someone fit to be Commander and Chief). I do not want a President who is willing to make up a story in order to get my vote. This Administration DID THAT AND NOW WE ARE IN A WAR BASED ON LIES (the only WMD in Iraq, thanks to GWB, is Al Qaeda).

People please wake up look beyond color! Those who say Obama talks, talks,talks, I agree: he talked talked about not going to war with Iraq because it was not in the best interest of Americans. He is talking about a health care plan that will not impose a fine if YOU choose not to enroll. He is now talking about not putting a band aide on the oil crisis in the form a holiday tax because money will be diverted from our infrastructures; we may literally take our lives in our hands when crossing a bridge to or from home. In closing the bottom line is that so many of us listen to the media whose main purpose is to increase ratings and not present the TRUTH. Remember the McCarthy Era, when innocent Americans lost everything because they were unjustly called "Reds" simply because they associated with other American with views opposite of theirs; Remember the injustices millions in this country suffered because of fear and hatred. For the sake of the next generation, we must strive for a future that allows us to have a better voice in our government despite our economic status.

Here is a quote from a man born over 100 years ago with an insight to last all eternity.

"THERE IS BUT ONE WAY TO KNOW THE TRUTH, and that is not a golden one. It is fraught with toil and sacrifice and perhaps RIDICULE. The seeker of the truth must be fearless, he MUST NOT BE AFRAID TO ENTER THE INNERMOST HOLIES OF HOLIES, and to tear down the veils of superstition that hang about any human and so-called divine institution. IT IS THE TRUTH THAT MAKES MEN FREE. If the truth tears down every church and government under the sun, let the truth be known and THIS TRUTH ONLY WILL BE KNOWN WHEN MEN CEASE TO SWALLOW THE CAPSULES OF ANCIENT DOCTORS OF DIVINITIES AND POLITICS; and when men begin to seek the truth in the records of history, politics, religion, and science."

Charles Austin Beard, 1898

Posted by: patricia in NY | Apr 26, 2008 1:03:12 PM

can there be any more doubt that Clinton has become the alternate Republican candidate?

Posted by: Louis | Apr 26, 2008 12:55:25 PM

I call on 100 superdelegates to openly declare their support for Obama before Indiana and South Carolina. It is time. Hillary Clinton has switched sides. There can be no doubt she is the stealth republican candidate.

Posted by: Louis | Apr 26, 2008 12:43:50 PM

My comment is that I would have told the caller, "Shame on you." It is one thing for Clinton to use this type of politics, it is what defines her. But the success of this type of smear campaign depends on those who 'follow the orders'. There are some jobs that integrity just won't allow one to take. This would be one of those.

Unfortunately, the MSM is drug addicted to the story of Rev. Wright and his every move, a story that has no bearing on the campaign or who could best govern this country. But the actions of the candidates, such as in this example, is never seen. Shame on this country!

Posted by: Debra | Apr 26, 2008 11:43:33 AM

S. Valenti, Michelle Obama was not talking abiut Hillary Clinton, when she said, "if you can't manage your own house". S

he was actually talking about Obama's decision to run for President and the Obama family's decision to make ensure as little disruption to their children's lives and daily schedules as possible.

I am so tired of this soundbite culture and people's willingness to take positions and make important decisions based on misinformation ... on all sides of this political debate!

Posted by: Tired of Games | Apr 26, 2008 8:41:05 AM

This story is massive. How dare a political campaign act in such a callous and manipulative manner?

I hope other candidates do not do this 'research'. If this is not illegal then at least I hope the American people find it unelectable.

Posted by: Simon | Apr 26, 2008 2:18:27 AM

I am most concerned with the Dean, Pelosi, Reid cabal.


Posted by: old91A10 | Apr 26, 2008 2:06:15 AM

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