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I am a rural, small-town American. I’m not bitter. I don’t carry a gun but I do believe in the Holy Bible and God.

Hillary won in Pennsylvania, despite being outspent by Obama's “mega bucks” and bombardment on TV, radio, internet ads, phone calls, etc., etc., because we believe Hillary to be the better candidate --- pure and simple. True Americans cannot be bought!

Hillary was GREAT in the Pennsylvania debate --- Obama did quite poorly.

OBAMA HAS REFUSED TO DEBATE IN NORTH CAROLINA. He apparently can only read a pretty scripted speech from a teleprompter --- And he wants to run our country??? NO WAY!

Does he plan to have Jeremiah Wright spewing “God Damn America” from the White House? It’s bad enough he did it in a church of God.

Are Obama’s frequent visitors going to be their anti-American, terrorist friends: bomber Ayers, Farrakhan, Rezko, among others?

We need someone to show respect to ALL Americans, regardless of where they live.

GOD BLESS AMERICA --- HILLARY 2008!

hillary wins by 10% - must be racism, hicks, whatever, not really a big win....

obama wins by .01% - obama continues to show his strength....

funny how this works.

msm fed this crap for months, no longer working. we're onto the game.

obama may or may not "win" the nomination. will never win the general.

hillary or mccain, no other option.

The fact is: she needed a 20+% win in all the remaining states, including PA in order to even up the pledged delegates. The fact that she only got half of what she needed does not seem like a win.

This is the single largest delegate pool left, and she scored an increase of less than 20 when she's down by 120+

It's interesting that the combined vote totals of McCain, Paul, and Huckabee don't equal the votes of the loser Obama.

In an industrial state, the so called Republicans and the MSM special interest groups can't get 10% of the population out to vote. Perhaps MSM special interest group bias and marginalization has become so blatant that it's too much to stomach.

Listening to announcers after the contest was sickening. "Blacks are voting for", "Women are voting for", "Blue Collar workers are voting for", "White people are voting for", "Young people are voting for", "Elderly people ate voting for", "Obama is a candidate with serious problems", "Hillary squashed Obama", "Obama spent an extraordinary amount of money and failed", and on and on. TV personalities were spewing spittle because they were so worked up about the opportunity to trounce on someone who is not their choice.

I just don't understand how Obama better than halves Clinton's lead in a state that's demographically tailor made for her to win, and it's a "huge win" for Clinton. You've really got to check your spin Tapper.

All these people insisting it is racism.

Why did America beg Gen Colin Powell to run several times?

He would have won as a Republican no less.

Obama is lying to you about racism being the reason people aren't voting for him.

It is because of HIS issues. Can't debate, glass jaw, can't handle 8 questions, Rezko, Ayers, Auchi, Wright, Michelle/Heinz-Kerry.

Obama promises hope but never delivers on the specifics. Why doesn't his supports insist on details instead of clinging to hollow rhetoric?

There is no valid or truly relevant popular vote tally in the Democratic party nomination process. The so-called "popular vote" tally doesn't even include the many caucus states, for example.

Maybe the Democrats can change the system to all primaries next time, or winner take all delegate counts in each state, but as for this year, Obama has an almost 100% certain lock on winning the delegate count, the only authorized metric based on public participation.

The only way Hillary can win right now is for the superdelegates to override Obama's delegate lead established by public participation. This just won't happen because overturning the public participation process would split the party for a long time to come. Democratic participation in the general election would probalby fall off and Hillary would likely lose to McCain.

Pennsylvania actually proved that Obama is resilient enough to stand up against Hillary adequately in a state she was universally favored to win. One could say he is running out the clock, though he may put away the race in Indiana and/or North Carolina. As things stand, the superdelegates will most likely end the race in Obama's favor.

Teri B, Spoken like a true Clinton supporter....twist facts to suit the end result...

Thank you Pennsylvanians for prolonging the agony of this campaign and the prospect of seeing Bill and Hillary's slash and burn politics for at least the next two weeks. Hopefully, folks in Indiana and North Carolina will put the Democratic Party out its misery and send the Clintons packing.

Clinton DOES lead in the popular vote.

I wonder, has anyone even bothered to ask thems what is the purpose, intent, or even moral relevance of these DNC "rules" Howard Dean has imposed upon the voters of Florida and Michigan, particularly when balanced against the basic civil right to vote and have one's vote counted?

Let's ask ourselves about our deep moral convictions regarding the DNC's rules that were purportedly violated by Florida and Michigan, which Howard Dean claims warranted the DNC's actions of stripping them of their representation. Florida and Michigan moved up their primaries, like numerous other states, states that weren't punished in the most drastic way possible, by stripping the voters in those states of their Constitutional rights to representation. Only Florida and Michigan had their representation at the convention stripped. And why? Do any of us actually care whether Florida, Michigan, California, South Carolina, New Hampshire or any of the other states' legislatures moved up their primaries? Does moving up the date of their primaries disenfranchise some minority segments of those states' populations? Did moving the dates create some barrier that would make it more difficult for voters to vote, like historic injustices like applying literacy tests, or land ownership requirements, or any other historically egregious voting equity violations? No. No, there was nothing patently unfair, or even comprehensibly wrong with these states moving up their primaries. What IS unfair, unreasonable, and IMO unconstitutional is denying only these two states equal representation.

And what is the significance of this strange checker board arrangement of primary dates anyway? In fact, in recent history the votes of the citizens in Iowa, New Hampshire, and other early primary states carry vastly more significant weight than that of their fellow citizens in other states, based upon this arbitrary primary schedule. What of Constitutional equal protection provisions?

None of it makes a lot of common sense, yet astonishingly, Obama supporters, such as Howard Dean, expect us to blindly accept and support this dubious, twisted travesty of democracy they're trying to sell the American public? WHAT?!? Have the American people lost the ability to reason? If these kinds of shenanigans took place in an election the United States had undertaken to monitor in a fledgling democracy, we would declare the election a fraud.

The fact is that Florida's and Michigan's votes WERE officially and legally certified by the Secretaries of State in those states. Much as the "rules is rules" advocates like to talk about the DNC's rules, they refuse to acknowledge the controlling voting LAWS. These figures ARE part of the National popular vote totals.

Now, you might complain that the candidates didn't campaign in Florida - well, then Senators Obama and Clinton are on equal footing there, and official elections were held and record numbers of voters went to the polls in Florida and VOTED.

Or you might complain that Sen. Obama's name wasn't on the ballots in Michigan, while Clinton and Obama Supporter Dodd did not choose to withdraw their names from the ballots.

And what sort of legal argument Senator Obama might use to make his case that these voters should be stripped of representation? He removed his own name from Michigan's ballots voluntarily, but apparently he thought better of removing his name from Florida's ballots. Further, in both of these states, when given opportunities to correct the wrong DNC Chairman Dean perpetrated against the voters in these states, by agreeing to revotes, Sen. Obama alone blocked all attempts at revotes, knowing that Sen. Clinton had, and still has, significant leads in polls those states. Astonishingly, in reality, Sen. Obama is arguing that democratic voters in Florida and Michigan, so important to any victory for the democratic party's nominee in the general election, should pay the ultimate consequence, disenfranchisement, for the actions of their republican majority legislatures. Yet he is unwilling to live with the consequences of removing his name from Michigan's ballot, and he is unwilling to live with the legally certified voting results. Hmmm . . . this seems like a self-serving and meritless argument.

So, yes - Senator Clinton now leads in the popular vote, and I'd like to remind the Super Delegates (who few of us even knew existed a year ago), that Senator Obama said, in his speech after Super Tuesday that the Super Delegates must not overturn the will of the people, as well as what Speaker Pelosi said recently, that "[i]t will do great harm to the Democratic party if it is perceived that the Super Delegates overturn the will of the people. That is consistent with the delegate voting his or her conscience.”

There are several states who have yet to vote in this primary, and THIS TIME, their votes will matter as much as any other voters in the country - INCLUDING Florida's and Michigan's voters, whose votes MUST be counted - that is, if we still consider ourselves a free and democratic country.

One thing among many that I am sick of hearing broadcast by the media is the myth that Obama is so " overwhelmingly " getting the young " and " college educated vote, leaving the impression of course that the more intelligent and better educated prefer Obama to Clinton. Well I hate to inform them butl not all of the well educated are still in College. In the Pennsylvania primary only 51% of those with a College degree voted for Obama to 49% for Clinton and those with Post Graduate degrees voted 51% for Clinton and 49% Obama. So even though a lot of the young are voting for Obama it does not meant that the better educated are also overwhelmingly voting for Obama as is being implied. In other words, though I really hate to bust your biased bubble, a lot of the better educated are also voting for Clinton and not everyone voting for her are just a bunch of frightened old farts and those uneducated " bitter " white hicks that turn to religion and guns that Obama was referring to.

Well sadly we are still at the same point as we were 6 weeks ago. Nothing lost, and nothing gained.

Next up May 6th

OBama08

Michelle Obama -- first lady.

Think about it!

LOM posted:

"From everything that I've been able to gather, the DNC stripped MI and FL of their delegates. I couldn't find anything that said that the popular vote couldn't or shouldn't be considered. The popular vote was certified in Florida by the Secretary of State. The vote count should be included in the total popular vote and since there are many superdelegates who are using this as a measure for their final decision, it would be foolish not to take Florida or Michigan into consideration."

LOM, You make a great point. There is nothing precluding counting of FL and MI in the popular vote. You are dead on!!

Stop playing the race card Ron Fournier.

Obama's biggest problems are
1) Barack Obama
2) Michelle Obama
3)see #1 and #2.

Obama is the King of Negative Campaigning and the King of Pointing the Finger at Hillary and Blaming Her for His Failings! Obama is King of Giving Hillary the Finger as well! When will Obama realize that this campaign has been on easy street compared to the general election? The whining and complaining, the refusing interviews and debates, the need to vacation in the Virgin Islands, shows an arrogant, liberal elitist who does not have what it takes to be president. Obama had 7 WEEKS and 11 MILLION DOLLARS to put Hillary away? Wake up DNC and superdelegates, Obama is not the man for the job, you need a woman to take out John McCain....

Just look at all the whining. I love it!

I am sick of people and pundits blaming Obama's loss on Hillary and/or racism. Did the NYTimes and others watch the debates? He is clueless, very weak candidate and unqualified. People should stop making excuses for Obama.

And Obama isn't taking Clinton to the map? Just because she is behind in the delegate count doesn't mean its her fault that the campaign is at times negative. They both have sent out misleading mailers, they both have had negative tv ads, they both have had surrogates say things about the other that they shouldn't. So the notion that Clinton is the one who is negative is absolutely absurd.

GO Hillary , KEEP FIGHTING!!!!!!

s.b.,

I read it just like you. Racism is a problem for Hillary Clinton!! Look at the black vote in PA. 90% Obama. Jake, how can you say he lost because of white racism. I say without the black vote, this would have been a win in every county in PA.

Bob Casey influence?? LOL Looks like his small town people don't like what he did.

Yes all of the things that make Obama unelectable are Hillary's fault, and all the negativity is HIllary's and poor little Barrack has to deal with all those racist white people.

What a load of garbage! Obama is just as negative. Racism is helping him, what with 90% of the black vote and NONE of his problems absolutely none or the DNC's are Hillary's fault!

That is mysoginistic crap! He's unqualified for the job. Middle America can see and hear that loud and clear.

Racism a problem for Obama. You are kidding me right! Whiel he's geting 90% of the black vote, you are kidding me!

Does close count? If Obama were in Hillary’s position would he quit? I doubt it. Would a major newspaper come out with a nasty ad after such a win? I doubt it. He can’t win the nomination either.

There is progress in this country to get blatant racism out of the press. That is a great thing. Now, however, it is common place to be a blatant misogynist and no one blinks. That is a sad commentary for any newspaper and it is a sad commentary for any news network and a sad commentary for this country.

Fight misogyny for your wife, your mother, your daughter, your sister; most importantly fight misogyny for yourself. Vote Hillary! Hillary/Edwards 08!

WestCoastMessanger, NIcholas, pp et al all HillLovers. Yes we can, Obama has shown that he can fire back on Ed+Hill the Bosnian General+Bill+their 20 FAT CATS. She was 25% ahead in PA and ended up with less than 10% victory. That is the reality of a 15% erosion. After playing from Karl Rove and McCain's books on nuclear war with Iran, fear, fear and fear again. Hill ended up with a campaign in red. RE delegates from Floridad and Michigan they cannot be counted, these two states have not played by the rules and Dean said it you cannot change the rules of a game in the middle of a game. Obama got today one superdelegate and lot of pledeged delegates. Nothing changed, the math has not move at all and you have to live with that reality. Obama has the nomination in his pocket. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

Congrats, Senator Clinton. On to North Carolina, where I hope the people have as much sense as Pennsylvanians. Obama is poison for this country; get out, corrupt racist fraud.

Then again, to be fair I guess most people really don't have time or inclination to do that, and the small light colored font on the "includes FL and MI" is probably not deliberate.

PP, that includes Florida (which is okay) and Michigan (which is not okay since he wasn't even on the ballot). Read the fine print.

Rather disingenous of ABC...

As pointed out elsewhere, it's actually only a 9 point difference....

1258245/(1258245+1042297)=0.5469
1042297/(1258245+1042297)=0.4530

.54.69.4530=0.0939 = 9.39% , which would round down to 9%

Obama did keep it in single digits. Of course, this doesn't matter since people aren't really that intelligent; people see 55/45 and assume a 10 point difference, so Clinton wins the expectations game.

Carmen:

WOW! Hillary won PA because of "simple minds or resentful whites?"

What a nasty, racist thing to say. Even for an Obama follower.

Congrats to Hillary, but a HUGE win?

Absolutely not. Obama made an inroad of 10 points after weeks that for another candidate would have been disastrous, starting with the Wright tapes and ending with bittergate and the ABC debate.

Hillary fell seriously short of the numbers she needed, that were extensively discussed earlier this week (at least 63% of the vote to start making some inroad in the overall counts).

After this result, Obama's lead has only become more insurmountable. And North-Carolina is ready to hand him another large victory again. In fact the only LARGE victory for Hillary was Arkansas, Obama had many of them, and his home state Illinois was the largest victory in the whole race.

Obama is on track to win the nomination, Hillary after last night lost her last chance to do anything about it.

I just realise something, Barrack is to Good for america and american politics are extremely innane. Majority of Americans wThey rather vote for a devious Liar or the George Bush rerun ! They rather have divison than unity, they rather have the world against them than with , they rather move back than forward! Thats why americas chickens will come honme to roost. America doesn't want change so it doesn't deserve it ! If barrack was for the UK he will already be prime minister...give him to us we can do better with him!

Go Hillary!! While the media would like to promote the view obama that is the chosen one - I am glad that the people are making up their own minds.

She did win by double digits - 10 is a double digit.

I also question obama's judgement in terms of his associates - wright, rezko, ayers....god, his career hasn't even been so long.

Hillary '08!

Hillary Clinton has shown amazing resilience with this impressive victory in another large diverse state that will be up for grabs in the general election. Hillary has consistently won the moderate and middle-class voters that the Democrats HAVE TO WIN in order to take the general election, and she has won this demographic resoundingly. This is not going unnoticed by super delegates.

Hooray for Hillary!!

lol. I see Obama supporters are wasting no time in trying to spin the results.

''Big W for HRC''
How easy she different from yesterday: look at the delegates count.

Senator Clinton did not win by 10 points - she won by right around 8.6 points. This was not the double-digit win that she needed - ignore the ABC rounding and look at the Pennsylvania State Department site. A single digit win in PA will not net Senator Clinton any serious gains in pledged delegates - this was a hollow victory at best. Ignore the rounding and check the real numbers - this was NOT the double-digit win Senator Clinton needed.

I am surprised 45% of voters actually voted for Obama. I guess these people would have voted for Osama Bin Laden if Osama Bin Laden had given a speech criticizing the Iraq war. Wait a minute, Osama did give a speech criticizing the Iraq war.

Obama might want to take a cue from former candidate Mitt Romney -- you can't buy this election!

Obama is simply unelectable!

Clinton/Edwards 2008!!!

Actually, Obama's losses ARE Clinton's fault! Silly me!

She is the superior candidate and Pennsylvania delivered that message loud and clear tonight!

so saddened -- That is not a new theme in this contest. It is never good enough for her and Obama's losses are somehow her fault. Folks have to realize that any win for her tonight was a big win because had she lost, she would have been out. Now winning by 10 percentage points makes it a HUGE win considering the front-runner had a sizeable lead on all counts and massively outspent her.

"A win is 50 plus one, so if Sen. Clinton gets over 50 percent, she's won the state." -- Barack Obama, 4/22/08

robert hewson posts one of those long cut and paste jobs about obama trying to decide if he should go negative (didn't read the whole thing, of course, since i don't waste time on such drivel). as though we don't all know that obama's run a horrendously negative campaign all along. puleeze!!!

LOM, so right. i heard them saying tonight, well if she can win indiana by 10 points.... how many states does she have to win by 10 points before they decide those states actually count? (apparently it's always one more....if she won 50, they'd say if she just gets the 51st we'll believe it's real.)

westcoastmessenger. i happen to be a hispanic native of new mexico. and yes some of my elders were penetintes. besides feeling insulted by your hurtful comment i really do not understand the need to insult other people's religion/race/sexual orientation or political affiliations. i believe that is called free-will and just because i may not understand or agree with another persons preferences does not mean that i have to belittle them. my penitente elders taught me to respect diversity-how about your's?

To Roger Miller: Dude, are you inhaling as much as your daddy? Obama, who has been whining about the "Clinton Machine", has himself built his own Obama Machine with disaffected, jealous bottom feeders like Bill Richardson--whom the Clinton's promoted to the national stage.

cracker; you are right about dean and pelosi absolutely. but edwards? what's that all about?

carmen -- with your superior IQ, why don't you elaborate for all of uneducated types HOW Senator Obama wins the nomination? If a win for Clinton is mathematically impossible why is she still in this race or most importantly, why can't Obama close the deal?

Obama is simply unelectable!

Clinton/Edwards 2008!!!

HRC can't win more pledged delegates after tonight to overcome Obama, haven't you seen the latest news? It is MATHEMATICALLY impossible, she needs to win 80% of the votes of the remaining states. So, how high is your IQ?

I keep hearing that Obama had a "win" tonight because he tightened the gap from being down 20 points. As Pat Buchanan said earlier today, what was he doing down 20 points in the first place?!

I am hearing the goal posts being moved all over the place by the pundits and Obama surrogates. They have to spin it in some way because they think the smart people of America can't recognize an @$$ whooping when they see one.

gosh cracker my family lives in santa fe and if westcoastmessenger came to my family home we would treat him with respect. what's with the hostility are you bitter?

I really don't understand why folks keep asking why Obama cannot close? Don't they know the answer? Plain and simple, he is a flawed candidate. We will get Obama if we cross McGovern with Dukakis.

From everything that I've been able to gather, the DNC stripped MI and FL of their delegates. I couldn't find anything that said that the popular vote couldn't or shouldn't be considered. The popular vote was certified in Florida by the Secretary of State. The vote count should be included in the total popular vote and since there are many superdelegates who are using this as a measure for their final decision, it would be foolish not to take Florida or Michigan into consideration.

Looking at America from abroad, it seems that 200,000 extra voters for HRC is not a big deal: they are all the 60+, or simple minds or resentful whites, or people who can't distinguish a lie from the truth.They haven't even sat to think that this woman is capable of starting a nuclear war! God forbid! She won because of her husband ties and her 35+ years hanging around him. Most of Americans in and out of the USA want something else!

cracker-your right. unfortunately research shows that 'people want to vote for a winner' and thus a percentage of people are influenced by polls. perhaps it is time to expose them what they are, which is a bunch of frauds.
go hillary!

LOM,
Can you believe some of these Obama folks though. I heard one spinner say it was a victory for Obama because Clinton did not win by 20. Can you believe that? Anyone that sees a victory for Obama tonight needs to have their heads examined. MSM everywhere is reporting a 10 point spread, and some yokel here tries to dilute it to a 9 point spread. It's a good day for Hillary and the tide has turned.
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Obama, doesn't have what it takes to close the deal!
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As a Californian who proudly voted for Hillary in her landslide win in our state, I want to welcome PA to the major states of CA, NY, TX, AZ, FL, MI, and Ohio who have all voiced their support for Hillary. Obama can have his wins like Idaho and Iowa and North Dakota and Mississippi. He can't fool us voters in the largest states who are far from bitter and do not agree with Obama and Wright that God should Da*n America. God Bless America!

TJ,
Florida cannot be ignored. Neither can Michigan. The Democratic party, supported by the core working class Democrats do not disenfranchise fellow Democrats, ever. This continued disenfranchisement and disallowance of a re-vote is an orchestrated effort by Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi, working in collusion with Moveon.org and the Daily Kossacks to give us another weak-kneed liberal failure that will not be able to win a general election.
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Boycott the DNC until Florida and Michigan are included!
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I'd agree this is a huge victory for Hillary in the sense that if she had won by 5 less percentage points, she might have to leave the race.

Doesn't sound like she's on the verge of being the nominee, however. Not really anything close to that at this point.

Indiana and North Carolina are going to be really interesting!

w00t! Go Hillary! :)

in the last couple of weeks obama was starting to close the gap and even projected to win by some hopeful thinking pollsters. so now we know the polls are unreliable. even zogby until yesterday was giving hill a very low advantage as were most of the polls on real clear politics-until today. perhaps in an effort to save their reputations today hillary's poll numbers started to go up. what a bunch of frauds. obama supporters remember their are no caucus's in november where hired thugs from moveon.org can go and intimidate the voters.

Although I'm a Democrat, if Obama becomes the Democratic presidential nominee, I'll be voting for John McCain in November.

DC Voter, LOM, Roger Miller, Nicholas, Drae,
High five to Team Clinton! The Obama Zombies are checking the coolaid recipe to try to figure out what went wrong! I believe that more Democrats have now pulled the lever for Hillary Clinton than any Democrat nominee in history, at this stage of the game.
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Hillary Clinton, the tide has turned!
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I have a feeling, MSM will work overtime to spin this Hillary PA victory for Obama and prop him up once again. With 42mil and 24/7 all Obama news channel, I can see why people doubt his electability. I also think that DNC will panic. I hope Hillary supporters will remain steadfast in their support.

could you imagine what hillary might have done to obama , had she gotten access to $50 million a month...
penniless and all, hillary made me proud and happy tonight...
LONG LIVE THE CLINTONS.

Aren’t there working class voters among African Americans? Doesn’t Obama connect with them? Aren’t there blue collar workers among African Americans? What you should say is that white working class voters do not share the African American working class voters’ enthusiasm for Obama’s economic policies.

I am so proud of all the voters in this country. We are making our voices heard loud and clear! I am especially proud of Senator Hillary Clinton for standing up for all of us in the face of such uncertainty. Yes, "together we will turn promises into action, words will become solutions, hope will become reality."

Oh and by the way, Clinton won PA, double digits, overtook Obama in the popular vote, and cut into demographics previously considered Obama strongholds. Examine the exit polls and see for yourself just how significant this win is in terms of electability!

YES, she will!!!

Clinton/Edwards 2008!!!

Clinton now leads in the popular vote.

I wonder, has anyone even bothered to ask thems what is the purpose, intent, or even moral relevance of these DNC "rules" Howard Dean has imposed upon the voters of Florida and Michigan, particularly when balanced against the basic civil right to vote and have one's vote counted?

Let's ask ourselves about our deep moral convictions regarding the DNC's rules that were purportedly violated by Florida and Michigan, which Howard Dean claims warranted the DNC's actions of stripping them of their representation. Florida and Michigan moved up their primaries, like numerous other states, states that weren't punished in the most drastic way possible, by stripping the voters in those states of their Constitutional rights to representation. Only Florida and Michigan had their representation at the convention stripped. And why? Do any of us actually care whether Florida, Michigan, California, South Carolina, New Hampshire or any of the other states' legislatures moved up their primaries? Does moving up the date of their primaries disenfranchise some minority segments of those states' populations? Did moving the dates create some barrier that would make it more difficult for voters to vote, like historic injustices like applying literacy tests, or land ownership requirements, or any other historically egregious voting equity violations? No. No, there was nothing patently unfair, or even comprehensibly wrong with these states moving up their primaries. What IS unfair, unreasonable, and IMO unconstitutional is denying only these two states equal representation.

And what is the significance of this strange checker board arrangement of primary dates anyway? In fact, in recent history the votes of the citizens in Iowa, New Hampshire, and other early primary states carry vastly more significant weight than that of their fellow citizens in other states, based upon this arbitrary primary schedule. What of Constitutional equal protection provisions?

None of it makes a lot of common sense, yet astonishingly, Obama supporters, such as Howard Dean, expect us to blindly accept and support this dubious, twisted travesty of democracy they're trying to sell the American public? WHAT?!? Have the American people lost the ability to reason? If these kinds of shenanigans took place in an election the United States had undertaken to monitor in a fledgling democracy, we would declare the election a fraud.

The fact is that Florida's and Michigan's votes WERE officially and legally certified by the Secretaries of State in those states. Much as the "rules is rules" advocates like to talk about the DNC's rules, they refuse to acknowledge the controlling voting LAWS. These figures ARE part of the National popular vote totals.

Now, you might complain that the candidates didn't campaign in Florida - well, then Senators Obama and Clinton are on equal footing there, and official elections were held and record numbers of voters went to the polls in Florida and VOTED.

Or you might complain that Sen. Obama's name wasn't on the ballots in Michigan, while Clinton and Obama Supporter Dodd did not choose to withdraw their names from the ballots.

And what sort of legal argument Senator Obama might use to make his case that these voters should be stripped of representation? He removed his own name from Michigan's ballots voluntarily, but apparently he thought better of removing his name from Florida's ballots. Further, in both of these states, when given opportunities to correct the wrong DNC Chairman Dean perpetrated against the voters in these states, by agreeing to revotes, Sen. Obama alone blocked all attempts at revotes, knowing that Sen. Clinton had, and still has, significant leads in polls those states. Astonishingly, in reality, Sen. Obama is arguing that democratic voters in Florida and Michigan, so important to any victory for the democratic party's nominee in the general election, should pay the ultimate consequence, disenfranchisement, for the actions of their republican majority legislatures. Yet he is unwilling to live with the consequences of removing his name from Michigan's ballot, and he is unwilling to live with the legally certified voting results. Hmmm . . . this seems like a self-serving and meritless argument.

So, yes - Senator Clinton now leads in the popular vote, and I'd like to remind the Super Delegates (who few of us even knew existed a year ago), that Senator Obama said, in his speech after Super Tuesday that the Super Delegates must not overturn the will of the people, as well as what Speaker Pelosi said recently, that "[i]t will do great harm to the Democratic party if it is perceived that the Super Delegates overturn the will of the people. That is consistent with the delegate voting his or her conscience.”

There are several states who have yet to vote in this primary, and THIS TIME, their votes will matter as much as any other voters in the country - INCLUDING Florida's and Michigan's voters, whose votes MUST be counted - that is, if we still consider ourselves a free and democratic country.

The new york times is BLAMING CLINTON for Obamas loss?

Just like News week said ABC was 'jerking Obama around' - but of course doesnt mind when Clinton gets jerked over in other debates.

I have said this 1000 times. What is REALLY going on in this democratic primary cycle is the INCREDIBLE MEDIA BIAS.

The liberal media is TAKING PART in the election, rather than just reporting on it.

It ridiculously CORRUPT

Love it!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Jake for calling it what it is.

Even now, most stories still feature Obama, and if it is a Clinton story, it is with a picture of Obama. What's up with that.

It is time, past time, for America to wake up. Wake up America!!!!!!!

I am sure Obama will get all the votes he got in the primary in the general election as well. However, the problem is that McCain will get Hillary votes as well as the rest of the votes.

I am beginning to hear that MA and NJ will come into play if Obama is the nominee. So, Mr. Obama will be another McGovern or Dukakis.

So, the super delegates should think hard before jumping on the math bandwagon. They are the supers in the primary only and nobodies in the general election. Also, they need to understand that the GE is elections (as in the primaries) in all states. Not caucuses.
If we don't get the nominee we want, we will choose the party we want.

Go Hillary.

A 9 point win by Bill Clintons wife in her homestate

with the full support of the Democratic machine

(Rendell and Co.) and after throwing the kitchensink

and then some at an unknown African American in

a primary Hillary has completely poloarized and

tried to turn into a black and white issue ....

A state she led by 30 points months ago and you

think this is a good thing for her?

Really?

Hillbots need to wake up, Operation Chaos and

the MSM is taking us on a ride and ratings matter.

Keep up the spinning Hill trolls, its all you got!

Get used to it...

President Barack Obama

The media darling let the MSM down tonight and they are at a loss of words, especially ones like "Clinton wins big in Pennsylvania...Obama has electability problems."

That's okay. The Clinton campaign is well accustomed to the double standards the media has placed on this primary election. Even with the backing of the MSM giants and outspending her 4:1, Obama still can't close the deal!

Obama is simply unelectable!

Clinton/Edwards 2008!!!

The longer Clinton carries the race to Obama the more we are getting the chance to learn about Obama. The process is testing both candidates which is good, and leading to the registering and energizing of record numbers of Dems. All of this is good.
The NY Times fails to mention that Hillary dominated Obama in the last debate and runs circles around him on the issues. Like a school marm they blame her for not fostering "more nuanced debate". Oh yes those Republicans play so nicely and are ever so kind to the Dem nominee. And btw, it's a very scary world right now so what's wrong with bringing up national security concerns? Should the legitimate fears of Americans be ignored? Is national security an area that should be completely ceded to the GOP?? Give me a break.

Jake, I love you!

Thanks a bunch for calling it a big win! I will second to Tina's comment. The MSNBC's aging bigots will never call this a clear victory. Chris Matthews claimed that Clinton was getting anti-Obama votes.

I'm surprised that MSNBC has no shame in broadcasting a collection of anti-Clinton biases packed as cable news.

A great night for the Clinton campaign. I'm sure the Axelrod spin machine, as Jake touched on it here, is that her win is because of a negative campaign. Nice try folks.

Obama can't close the deals and the superdelegates know it!

Obama is simply unelectable!

Clinton/Edwards 2008!!!