Clinton Attacks Democratic Activists

Camille Paglia is a self promoting, self absorbed, sqaukbox that feels everybody is entitled to her opinion. Ms. Paglia is used to having 18 year old blank slates absorbing her every word with baited breath in her classroom. Her thoughts on Hillary Clinton and feminism are as eratic as her books, but thats just my humble opinion.

i am a 53 year old male army viet nam era veteran college educated realestate appraisor home inspector cost estimator etc etc etc and im also a very proud african american i am not sure what all the talk is about the economy having been so wonderfull during the clinton years i was in the usa at the time i dont remember any over abundance of prosperity during that administration if some one could offer em any real statistics supporting that claim id like to hear them

it is NOt about Move On, it is about Hillary's double standards.
Is it so hard to get?
Or You do not care?
Then she will manipulate with you more and more. Just say her Thank You.
It is Amazing how stupid Clinot's supporters are.

Susan,Please the reason we have 8 years of George Bush is because the Republicans will do anything to win up to and including steal an election(s).  Each time during the last two elections, the Republican outwitted the Democrats. First with Florida, then with Ohio, now with the Democratic nomination.  Primarily because they believe that the makeup of the Dem. party consist on people who are unable to or unwilling to encompass the idea that the Rep will conspire, rig, use propaganda, (create wars) in order to obtain their goals which is and was to rob the American people of all it money.  The sad thing about this is they have been very successful at this game for a long time.  Only Bill Clinton was able to put a dent in their plans.  Can you imagine where Americans would be if President Clinton had not won his two terms.  Twenty long years of war.  Because President Bush (1) was planning on going back to war again anyway.  That why the Republicans were so zealous in trying to find something against President Clinton.  H--l we would be in a "depression" rather than a "recession".  4,000+ soldier vs 10,000+ soldiers dead, and over 100,000 wounded; gas $3.40 vs $6.60. All things considered, we should be praying and thanking God everyday for the Clinton years. It not too late, we still have an opportunity to save ourselves.  As a 51 year old Af-Am woman, so what lots of men have affairs, it not my place to judge how personal relationship are resolved.  Certainly, I would not appre ciate anyone telling me that I need to divorce because of anyone of the many problems that relationship face. s Besides it was just oral sex anyway. Americans can be so hypocritical and prudish especially when for the most part no one is without their own crosses to bear.  Hiliary placed the welfare of her family and her country above her own personal humiliation and pain that was available for the entire world to either empathize or gloat over. Qualities that anyone could admire. Hiliary has paid her dues to Americans, the favor should be repaid in kind.

Has everyone forgotten that the ONLY reason we have had 8 years of horror from the Bush camp is BECAUSE OF THE CLINTONS??? I voted for Bill twice. I supported him through the debacle of Monica-gate, but for them to have the lack of shame, the NERVE to run her for president is simply unconscionable. And typical of the Clintons’ shamelessness is the dirty politics they continue to play, despite the fact that this is detrimental to the party… and to winning the national election. They had their shot, she even got to be a senator, but frankly, they blew it. If you were hiring someone to, say, run your business, would you pick the person with the doubtful rep, the spouse who butts in, the angry one? Not me!!

How could a real Democrat be for McSame? EVER?!!

I hit the SPAM button on Move on along time ago. I'm surprised it took Hillary this long.

Susan, you are another Obamamite that is pushing the rest of us dems to McCain, Nader, or ANY OTHER alternative.

Congratulations. Pat yourself and your enlightened friends for giving this election to the republicans.

Hillary '08 or bust!

What I find so interesting about the Clitonites is that, when these organizations were supporting Hillary and Bill they were fine with them. They courted these groups and praised the work they did on behalf of the party. Now this group is supporting Obama and they are somehow destroying here campaign in the caucuses. They blame the caucuses and now MoveOn.org for her failure to capture the nomination. What will here campaign do next week? Who will she blame? What a disaster, and the Clintons want to run this country again? No Way!....

Poor Hillary, so she got a little confused. It's so easy to confuse a corkscrew landing and dodging snipers' bullets with receiving a poem of peace from a child. Natural mistake!

Toby: That dog won't hunt. The Clinton campaign has a) not refuted the remarks and b) is making nice with MoveOn. If the remarks were lies or distorted, they would have been the first to say so.

I'm surprised. I thought the Clintons would use this as an obvious opportunity to move to the center. They must really, really want those undeclared California super delegates.

The often stated HRC argument to be the nominee is not that most people voted for her, BUT she can take all the **it the republicans will dump on her. Such a place is called garbage dump. What a qualification to be a president!!

Her most talked about issue is health care. Remember in 1993, democrats controlled The House, The Senate and The White House and she failed. Why? she could not even rally/listen to the Democrats who had some suggestion of their own to amend the Bill. As a result the republicans won the midterm elections in 1994 - due to her debacle. On this not, Al Gore lost the presidency because of Bill/Monica nightmare on the nation. I admit, the economy was good at the time and Bill has done some good for the nation, BUT we have also paid for too much for their mistakes - G Bushe's presidency and the rest of the mess he brought for the nation.

HRC;s behavior in this campaign, dissing her friends who did not vote for her (Richardson, Reich, etc), states who did not vote for her (Iowa, Mississipi, and all those small states), organizations that did not support her (MoveOn, Some labor unions, etc.)... I am not even counting what Bill Clinton has said about the youth and African Americans. By the way African Americans and MoveOn were the only blocks of voters that came to help the Clintons during the impeachment - and these are the two groups most dissed by the Clintons.

This is the problem with HRC. Even if she gets the nomination, there won't be as many democrats left that she has not offended, the Independents and the republicans don't trust her, even before 'Bosnia'.

I am really sorry to see the two politicians I voted for and admired could be so destructive for all of us. What a shame. Their story should be told to young people who aspire to be leaders how too much ego can destroy ones promising carrier.

I truly believe that campaigns do the vetting of cadidates - their truthfulness, how they treat friends when they choose the other guy...

As a member of MoveOn we were ask to vote for the candidate that we thought was best. I voted for Hillary. MoveOn never told us that they would enorse or support either candidate. MoveOn has decided support Obama in every way ..... they can instead of letting the voters decide who the candidate should be. MoveOn had broke their word to me!

Posted by: where the beef? | Apr 20, 2008 8:22:51 AM
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As always Move-on did what we, the people, wanted. They first asked if we thought they should support one candidate over the other if we had at least a 65-45 preference of one over the other. The majority of us responded affirmatively. Well over 65% selected Obama. I understand that there a lot of people who don't think Democracy is important, if they don't get what they want, but that is the way it is. We are Democrats and Independents. It is not an authoritarian group. Nobody is forced to support a candidate they don't want to. The idea that Move on didn't inform this person that they would looking to endorse a candidate is BULL!

I, too have been investigated for a security clearance. If the below is true, then I have no doubt that the FBI, CIA, NSA, DIA and all the other alphabet soups will be shuddering and keeping all kinds of info from Obama if he wins. I copied the belows:
Anyone who has ever been vetted for a security clearance by the FBI is probably wondering exactly what I am - how is this Obama guy going to get a top secret security clearance with the likes of Rezko and Auchi, Bill Ayers, and the Reverend Wright and his cronies hanging around in his background? If he were an ordinary citizen being vetted by the FBI, he wouldn't get past the first day. Maybe that's the card the Republicans are holding up their sleeve - sorry, we can't give your candidate the kind of security clearance he needs to be POTUS! Hillary or NcCain, no other choice for me and millions like me. We are Americans first, and the longer the DNC and the media try to shove this guy down our throats, the more resolute we become.

this story is bogus. the writer of the piece spliced together tapes to get a gotcha moment. probally because what happened to obama last week.

Move-0n crossed the line somewhere and decided they know better than anyone else, and should decide the future of our country. What is creepy is that a lot of people join because they feel flattered by an invitation to join a group/club. Jim Jones anyone?

When this campaign is over, Hillary will be able to look forward to a career as a fiction writer. All she has to do is provide a synopsis of her "harrowing experience" at the Tuzla Airport dodging sniper bullets. But then again, it easy to confuse dodging bullets with receiving a poem from and eight-year-old child. Who can't see the similarity of those events.

Thanks, Sinbad

One in every three black men is in prison, two of three is either on  parole or probation, one-half of those are in prison on paper because the criminal jusitce system is unfair and they are intimidated and exploited by racist prosecutors, lawyers and judges who continue to ensure that they have a job to go to everyday.  Education for AF-Am is a joke. It has been reduced to whether a racially bias test can be passed.  The majority of black people live in extreme poverty, just trying to make it from day to day chased down like animals by crooked police, attacked with taser, shot down in the street, beaten.  The life expectancy for Af-AM men is approx 59, which means they never be able to realize the American dream of getting Soc Sec (Ha-Ha) because they have no health e insurance, because they have no dental insurance. Property own by Af-Am are being stolen right from under them by crooked politicians and greedy businessmen. If all of these thing have not caused them to  riot, you can't really think that if Obama does not get the nomination, there is going to be a riot.  Not only that Obama has done nothing for the black people in Chicago who put him where he is now. (Please stop trying to intimidate Hiliary supporter with that BS).
This is from an AF-AM voter who choorse to live in third world America with by black sisters and brothers in order to support them as much as possible.

Jake, why do you say "falsely, according to the group?" Are you a journalist or what? Do we have to look it up ourselves? Actually, it is pretty well known that MoveOn did not oppose the Afghanistan war. So maybe this should be a story about Clinton "mis-speaking" rather than about MoveOn.

It is also interesting to note that Clinton had great praise for MoveOn back when she thought they might be helping HER.

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