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Could Bob Barr Hurt McCain? Obama? Clinton?

April 03, 2008 10:19 AM

Former Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga., who joined the Libertarian Party in 2003 after being defeated in a run for re-election to the U.S. Congress, will be the keynote speaker at the Heartland Libertarian Conference in Kansas City, Mo., in two days, and he may announce that he will run for president as a Libertarian.

Whether on the war in Iraq, civil liberties, or torture, Barr has emerged as a forceful critic from the right of the Bush administration, going so far as to team up with the ACLU.

In an interview on Scott Horton's Anti-War Radio, Barr said, “There’s been a tremendous interest expressed to me both directly and indirectly on the Internet. I take that support very seriously, and I think it also reflects a great deal of dissatisfaction with the current candidates and the current two-party system. So it is something, to be honest with you, that I’m looking very seriously at.”

Barr also suggested that his candidacy would be an extension of the campaign of Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas.

“Ron Paul tapped into a great deal of that dissatisfaction and that awareness," Barr said, adding that his campaign would need "a rallying point out there to harness that energy, that freedom in this election cycle."

What do you think? Would such a candidacy be a factor? Whom would it likely hurt more?

- jpt

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NO. IT WON'T MATTER. too many fringe candidates not voters. Barr is a nutjob who got thrown out in a primary.

Posted by: geevill | Apr 3, 2008 1:54:59 PM

GG, the answer is, absolutely. But she won't do it.

Posted by: An opinion | Apr 3, 2008 1:51:06 PM

Bob Barr could cause John McCain to lose Georgia. That's the general feeling in this part of metro Atlanta.

Posted by: Mike Green | Apr 3, 2008 1:09:12 PM

Flo - You asked where Obama's donations came from in March -- $40 million... well, mostly from people like me - a white working class guy who drives a 1999 Mercury, rents a decent two bed apartment and hopes for a better future for America. I researched what legislation Hillary has introduced since being elected in 2000... she can name a post office or federal building like nobody's business, but not a single meaningful piece of legislation passed... guess she was too busy trying to join the marines or army (depends if she tells the lie or Bill does - they can't seem to agree on which she did.) I also looked at what Obama introduced.... impressive - Ethics Reform: Obama was the Senate's point person on ethics reform, and sponsored or co-sponsored the bills that made up what the Washington Post called "the strongest ethics legislation to emerge from Congress yet." I'm also a fan of this bill, which I think of as the Journalists, Bloggers, and Citizens' Muckraking Empowerment Act: it creates a searchable database of recipients of federal grants and contracts.

* The Lugar-Obama initiative to strengthen the Nunn-Luger framework for securing loose nukes, and to extend it to securing and destroying stockpiles of conventional arms. (For instance, shoulder-fired missiles that could be used against passenger airlines, fired at our forces, or used to make any number of ongoing conflicts more deadly.)

* Various bills concerning the response to Hurricane Katrina, including an amendment putting strict limits on the use of no-bid contracts after disasters, requiring planning for the evacuation of people with special needs and senior citizens, creating a National Emergency Family Locator System, etc.


Posted by: Chgosaint | Apr 3, 2008 12:38:24 PM

I was going to write Paul in in the general election. If Barr runs with Paul's support, he could do well. Well meaning 10% or so if people pull their heads out. I don't know who he will hurt. It really depends on whether or not Paul and like minded people can promote Barr. His entry will attract fiscal conservatives that are aginst the war. Most Americans are now against the war, but judging from credit card debt, etc., Americans are not by and large fiscal conservatives. Too bad really.

Posted by: antenian | Apr 3, 2008 12:30:43 PM

Mary,
How come Obama has not been able to close the deal with such a huge war chest. He's convinced the Democratic left, but that's it. He's now lost any possibility of the Independents. And Hillary has figured out how to get people to look at the Reverend Wright scandal without even having to bring it up, just point out that he's unelectable. Then people start wondering why she would have the audacity to say that. Then they look at the Reverend Wright speech and go, "oh, yeah, I can see why. The Republicans aren't going to let him off the hook on the 20 year relationship."

Hillary Clinton is playing her final round of hardball with Obama and he's about to take the bait. Hillary has already claimed the market's mindshare with the phrase "he can't win", and he can only argue "yes, we can", but without any logic to back it up. The national election is not a caucus.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Apr 3, 2008 12:28:04 PM

TCG,
Interesting theory, I've suggested something similar myself, but I doubt it. The only person who is slightly tainted with the D label that McCain could bring on board would be Lieberman, but I even doubt that. He's seen his day, although he is likely to end up on a McCain cabinet, and you might even see Hillary on a McCain cabinet. Who knows, that deal may have already been cut as a way for her to save face. I support Hillary to the max, but these types of scenarios interest me.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Apr 3, 2008 12:21:04 PM

BKMC,
The way I interpret your statement is that you intend to support Obama through the 2012 election hoping he finally becomes electable by then. He's going to have to do a whole lot more distancing from Reverend Wright if he is ever to get elected. He may have to fully denounce the man along with his words.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Apr 3, 2008 12:17:16 PM

gg

Hillary very well could be a courting John McCain, who may be a one term pres, to be his VP. Good point. Wouldn't suprise me at all if she was doing some angling here.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Apr 3, 2008 12:12:47 PM

Bob was a republican and will give some hard time to McCain. Flo, wake-up the grassroot is supporting Obama and will continue to support his campaign until victory. God bless Obama and God bless America.OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | Apr 3, 2008 12:09:22 PM

marty - I never said that the rupublican don't spend. Republicans borrow and spend, democrats tax and spend. There is probably some crossover, but this isn't far from the truth. Paul does have a clue. He wants to stop the empire/nation building which will help us financially. He is also the best on global warming: The pentagon burns through 440,000 barrels of oil a day. He wants to reduce the size of government which as you know is a middle man for waste and fraud. It all comes down to spending. Again Paul is the only one that says how it is.

Posted by: Ben Straub | Apr 3, 2008 12:05:00 PM

"This is already our biggest problem....spending."

It is a Republican problem most and for all. Look what happened to our national debt after Bush/Cheney took over.

The GOP has no clue about modern economy.
Nor has Paul. In a no taxes situation, China will provide the money for our new schools, roads and bridges.

Posted by: marty | Apr 3, 2008 11:59:27 AM

Bob Barr loser in Georgia - Loser in the presidential race. hmmmmm.

Posted by: thevoter | Apr 3, 2008 11:58:54 AM

James Orleans - Well said. We truly need someone that promotes pragmatism and diplomacy on the world stage and fiscal conservatism here at home and abroad. Only one running that offers these is Ron Paul. Obama comes across as someone who will deal well with other countries, but his platform will spend the most money. This is already our biggest problem....spending.

Posted by: Ben Straub | Apr 3, 2008 11:52:24 AM

I am a big fan of Ron Paul's platform. This is the first time I have been interested in politics. I have even ran for a state delegate position out here in New Mexico because Ron Paul has made me believe that some politicians will stand up for what is right in the face of overwhelming corrupted adversity. Good for Bob Barr. We need someone of the libertarian mindset promoting some of their views in the public forum.

Posted by: Ben Straub | Apr 3, 2008 11:47:24 AM

Should Obama get the nomination, the Republicans and 527s are going to give the American public the information that the media should have been dispersing long ago. As a result, we'll have a substantial number of people going to the polls with the sole purpose of voting against Obama, and the only viable way to do that is to vote for McCain. Alternative parties will have little to no effect.

A nice fringe benefit of all this may be that the Republicans have their eyes opened as to how viable a more centrist candidate can be for them after years of being controlled by the far-right wing of the party.

Posted by: HoosierSue | Apr 3, 2008 11:28:53 AM

Obama gave Barr $15 MM seed money because Barr running gives Obama his only chance against McCain in the general.

Posted by: Leslie | Apr 3, 2008 11:25:17 AM

Obama breaks $40 million for March

Yet another success of lowered expectations, and well-concealed numbers, as Obama announces his fundraising numbers for March.

The campaign says he raised more than $40 million from more than 442,000 donors, more than 218,000 of whom were giving for the first time. It's a well Obama's barely begun to tap.

Posted by: mary | Apr 3, 2008 11:16:53 AM

Hillary should be on his ticket as VP. We'd be rid of our national nuisance.

Posted by: mary | Apr 3, 2008 11:14:49 AM

Where did Obama's 40 Million come from. Could it be Farrakan's nation of Islam?
Could it be Wights racist church.
Could it be from his communist friends.
Could it be Fidel Castro? After all the "YES We CaN" is the same chant Casto's faithful chant.
Smooth talkers have lead people astray for centuries. Get beyond the smooth talk and find out what you are asking for.

Posted by: Flo | Apr 3, 2008 10:47:42 AM

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