From the Fact Check Desk: Former President Bill Clinton's Defense of His Wife's Bosnia Sniper-Fire Story

I know who I am going to believe first...that would be Obama. He misspeaks, but he does not out and out lie. So everything that Hillary promises I take with a grain of salt. She is just out to win this thing so Bill can rack in more millions behind our backs.

My God in Heaven, to compare a poor choice of words to outright lies and a long history of treachery to the working class of America is unfathomable to me. Ultimately if white America is truly as racist and stupid as the media, Clinton and McCain hopes, we are truly doomed. Is he guilty of being a city slicker with little or no understanding of rural life? Maybe, but so what. Is that his biggest crime and now the media jumps on to it like flies on horseshit? Obviously. He on the other hand, is not out of touch with the overlapping foundation of concerns and frustrations in small town America, because those things are shared by working Americans everywhere.

Please forgive the tone of my comments. Finally rural America is getting attention, but from my view, Clinton, McCain and the media are attempting to trivialize the seriousness of the larger problems. There are approximately 60 Million people living in rural America and 30% of that population produces a large percentage of the world's food supply and our importance to the strength of America is very important. If rural America is ignored and marginalized, we are in real trouble as a nation. The crumbling or non-existant infrastructure of rural areas is not dissimilar to the struggles and challenges that were exposed in the Katrina tragedy. These challenges are the things that we must face as a nation that puts people and prinicples ahead of greed. Greed is the real enemy of us all and Indifference and Ignorance are its helpmates.

I'M GETTING ANNOYED BY ALL THE LIES

does Bill Clinton practice low or he is still disbared for lying under oath?

Hillary and Barack have both made tons of
"promises" about when they will "do" when
either one becomes Presidnt.
But what they don't say...is how much
all these promises will cost the taxpayers. What I'd like to see---is an
estimated "cost" for each program--each
one promises. (McCain too.)
The result will surprise those who support Hillary (and to a much lesser extent, Barack). As everyone has said, she'll promise anything to get the key
to the White House. Problem is...just
exactly HOW MUCH will that cost us?
And how will it remove us from the
recession?
From that point of view alone, if you
put Hillary (and Bill) back to the
White House, it'll be the return of
the "tax and spend" philosophy of the
Billy years. Sad

What are the real issue facing american today Bill?

Ms. Pelosi-- AMEN AMEN AMEN TO YOU!! WHATEVER LATE NIGHT BILLY IS DOING!!!

Bill is experiencing senility.

Oldtimers or Alzheimers?
Need to retire, Bill.

This is exactly why Obama strictly controls who does and does not talk to the press in his family.
Yeah,,,let's hear what your white grandmother has to say about you.
Cause we're all hearing it in Leavenworth, Kansas.

Instead of "Political Punch", why not call this blog, "Political Gossip"? Most of the posters here probably can't even tell you the difference between the three main candidates positions on education, health care, and the war in Afghanistan. But they know who slipped up verbally and when. It's apparent, from ABC's articles today, that it's more important to wonder if Obama slipped up when he talked about bitter Pennsylvanians than it is to talk about whether or not he has a plan or ability to help bitter Pennsylvanians. Is it any wonder that, in a college journalism class of top students, 11 of 18 didn't know what country Kabul is in?

The clintons are simply unbelieveable. Clinton wants this nomination dangerously too much....come on to go the extent of lying through her teeth like that. Please PA save us from this couple...

People who painstakingly look at the pixels miss looking at the big picture of the ECONOMY, Iraq War, Energy Independence, Health Care. The only one who can even come close to delivering on these issues is Hillary. McCain will not mess up Iraq War but Obama is so inexperienced that he will fail us on all four. Look at the pixels and all pictures look the same but Americans, please take a moment to look at the big picture. See who has the ideas. Who has the strength to take a stance? Who is strong enough to ask the tough questions of the experts around them? And ask yourselves who can deliver on all four of these big issues. That will be your choice. Hillary comes out so far ahead. Lose not the goal because you have spent your time looking at the small mishaps.

Aren’t we seeing a repeat of the months before the 2000 GE except that this time it is playing out in the Democratic primaries? Al Gore was smart, he had the ideas, he promised to make good use of the surplus, promised to help the economy grow and put Social Security in a lock box. He promised to revisit health care and what did the many short sighted American media do? They called Al Gore a liar and that he was not trustworthy because he lied about the Internet and he lied about going to a disaster area with the FEMA chief – except Al Gore had visited another disaster area with the FEMA chief. The media called him a liar over and over and over again. They discounted all the effort and the good things that Al Gore did for our country. They discounted all the good he would have brought about as the President so the American dream would be alive for all Americans. He promised to help schools and the infrastructure. Yet the media called him a liar over such flimsy details. They looked at pixels and missed the big picture. Look what we got now because of that. We have Bush and Cheney. We have a huge baggage in the Iraq War. We have a huge debt that we have to pay off. Our economy is floundering and we are in the beginning of a Recession. All because people believed the media and followed their pixel hunts instead of looking at the big picture. We are doing this again. Except, this time it is to Hillary. What a Shame!

The only reason this story about Obama being out of touch with the middle class came up on Friday is because Bill Clinton got caught telling these lies about his wife's lies. I am SICK OF THE CLINTONS. Go away.

Can we say "SABATOGE!" C'mon now, do you really think Bill wants to see his wife Hillary upstage him? He's been her biggest liaBILLity since she decided to run.

Hey, everyone. Thanks to those who read my post -whether you enjoyed it or not. Glad you found it interesting enough to plow through....

For those of you who don't know, here goes....

BLACK DUDE FOR CLINTON AND AGAINST OBAMA....

In the past I have voted for individuals I did not support. I was a Bradley fan. I was a Dean fan. I was somewhat undecided in 1992, but I supported Jesse during both of his runs. I did not vote for Clinton in 1996 because I was angry with welfare reform. I am able to separate the two Clintons, however. A woman is not an extension of her husband.

In the past, I was able to vote for the winning nominee, because the campaigns were not so nasty, hateful, and unfair. Although Bradley lost, the media did not really portray him in horrendous terms. Dean, I concede, received a lot of awful and unfair press. The Dean Scream was a complete media invention, and it slandered a great candidate. I was angry with the Democrats for falling for this madness. I saw a Karl Rove conspiracy; the Republicans said they preferred Dean, and the Democrats and the "liberal" media fell for it. Now, the Republicans say they want Clinton, and the media and the Democrats have fallen for it. The difference, however, is one of degree. The media and Obama's supporters have portrayed Clinton in completely unflattering terms, but she maintains a large volume of supporters. I think this shows how strong a candidate she actually is. On some level Bradley was flat, and Dean was a little "sporadic." But Clinton is a pretty straight shooter. The media, however, have done nothing but seek bad news about her. Even recently, they rushed a story calling her a "liar" concerning a campaign story that portrayed an uninsured woman's plight with health care. Although Clinton never mentioned the woman's or the hospital's name, a particular hospital denied the story -- and without even verifying anything, the headlines portrayed her as lying - "yet again." Turns out, the woman had several hospital visits and indeed was refused care by another hospital due to lack of insurance and $100. The woman's family and the sheriff who told Clinton the story have confirmed its validity. Rather than seeking to validate the truth, the media rushed to brand her a liar.

Things like this have happened throughout the campaign. Obama's "lies" and "distortions" receive very little attention. This is patently unfair. The Democrats are supposed to be "fair." Because they are not -- I refuse to support them anymore (add Florida and Michigan to this analysis -- and my opinion becomes even more forceful). The lack of fairness contradicts everthing the party claims to support, including the "narrative" advanced by Obama and his supporters. He is a "dignified" and "righteous" individual -- getting success in large part based on the most vitriolic sexism I have seen in US political history. If Democrats do not take a stand against this, then who will? If Democrats do not take a stand against this, then why are we any better than the Republicans?

As a civil rights activist, I cannot endorse a party that embraces sexism, that portrays a black man as the "post-racial" answer to their guilt, and that dismisses poor voters and Latinos as universally racist, uneducated and therefore lacking judgment. I refuse to support a party that views lifetime involvement with the Democratic party negatively -- as presenting "more of the same." I refuse to vote for a party that devalues the wisdom of an older generation of voters who have spent their entire lives trying to make change: saying they are "stuck in the past" is childish and petty. Obama and his followers have all said these things. But these are not my values. So, denying Obama my vote is not about being a "sore loser"; instead, it is a principled decision based on a lifetime of work.

Proud Democratic Defector

What's interesting to me is that CHELSEA - who qualifies as a grown up Clinton now (meaning no free passes), evidently was fine with going along with Mom's sniper adventure since she was there too. You'd think after the first time, if she was a girl with a conscience - though it's not in the genes - she'd say something. Or maybe after the 5th time... It also gets me how Hillary added that tagline, "if it's too small, too dangerous, or not important enough to send the President, send the First Lady.." line. I can understand Bill wanting her out of the House, but come on!

And don't forget that when she was 27, she said she wanted to join the Marines. Yep - in the middle of Vietnam, that's what every white female lawyer whose HUSBAND was a draft dodger and now running for Attorney General of Arkansas wants to do. (She said the eyeglasses held her back).

Hillary's like Forrest Gump. She's done everything and she's always the humble hero of every story/(lie) she tells.

Whoeey - can't believe Clinton has the nerve, I recall her very clearly telling the reporter what you say during the run-up isn't too important because voters have short memories. If someone is condescending - its her.

Obama was discussing political bitterness and it's a real thing. The belief that it doesn't have to be like is where the energy level in supporters comes from. It doesn't - people need to get off their duffs and get involved. If enough people speak out we can make a difference.

You want a lying ex-con for a CO-PRESIDENT? Bill Clinton is your boy. Even though Bill is an ex-convict (lying to federal grand jury, obstruction of justice, and even though he had his license to practice law stripped from him, and even though he no longer has public employees (Arkansas Highway Patrol) running him to see his many "mistresses, even after Monica Lewinsky, Jennifer Flowers and a host of others, many Americans still supported him, but not any more. And his new BFF is Bush senior and his intent now is just to make money.

Hillary is the grande dame of liars. Her elaborate Tuzla story was not just a lie, it was an elaborate whopper. She lied about her supposed opposition to NAFTA; she lied about being against the Iraq war before Barack. If she was so opposed to the Colombian Free Trade agreement, why didn’t she “reject and denounce” the portion of the $800.000, inured to her benefit as a matter of law. She could have donated it to some of the Americans who are deprived of jobs as a result of these trade agreements.