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I know who I am going to believe first...that would be Obama. He misspeaks, but he does not out and out lie. So everything that Hillary promises I take with a grain of salt. She is just out to win this thing so Bill can rack in more millions behind our backs.

My God in Heaven, to compare a poor choice of words to outright lies and a long history of treachery to the working class of America is unfathomable to me. Ultimately if white America is truly as racist and stupid as the media, Clinton and McCain hopes, we are truly doomed. Is he guilty of being a city slicker with little or no understanding of rural life? Maybe, but so what. Is that his biggest crime and now the media jumps on to it like flies on horseshit? Obviously. He on the other hand, is not out of touch with the overlapping foundation of concerns and frustrations in small town America, because those things are shared by working Americans everywhere.

Please forgive the tone of my comments. Finally rural America is getting attention, but from my view, Clinton, McCain and the media are attempting to trivialize the seriousness of the larger problems. There are approximately 60 Million people living in rural America and 30% of that population produces a large percentage of the world's food supply and our importance to the strength of America is very important. If rural America is ignored and marginalized, we are in real trouble as a nation. The crumbling or non-existant infrastructure of rural areas is not dissimilar to the struggles and challenges that were exposed in the Katrina tragedy. These challenges are the things that we must face as a nation that puts people and prinicples ahead of greed. Greed is the real enemy of us all and Indifference and Ignorance are its helpmates.

I'M GETTING ANNOYED BY ALL THE LIES

does Bill Clinton practice low or he is still disbared for lying under oath?

Hillary and Barack have both made tons of
"promises" about when they will "do" when
either one becomes Presidnt.
But what they don't say...is how much
all these promises will cost the taxpayers. What I'd like to see---is an
estimated "cost" for each program--each
one promises. (McCain too.)
The result will surprise those who support Hillary (and to a much lesser extent, Barack). As everyone has said, she'll promise anything to get the key
to the White House. Problem is...just
exactly HOW MUCH will that cost us?
And how will it remove us from the
recession?
From that point of view alone, if you
put Hillary (and Bill) back to the
White House, it'll be the return of
the "tax and spend" philosophy of the
Billy years. Sad

What are the real issue facing american today Bill?

Ms. Pelosi-- AMEN AMEN AMEN TO YOU!! WHATEVER LATE NIGHT BILLY IS DOING!!!

Bill is experiencing senility.

Oldtimers or Alzheimers?
Need to retire, Bill.

This is exactly why Obama strictly controls who does and does not talk to the press in his family.
Yeah,,,let's hear what your white grandmother has to say about you.
Cause we're all hearing it in Leavenworth, Kansas.

Instead of "Political Punch", why not call this blog, "Political Gossip"? Most of the posters here probably can't even tell you the difference between the three main candidates positions on education, health care, and the war in Afghanistan. But they know who slipped up verbally and when. It's apparent, from ABC's articles today, that it's more important to wonder if Obama slipped up when he talked about bitter Pennsylvanians than it is to talk about whether or not he has a plan or ability to help bitter Pennsylvanians. Is it any wonder that, in a college journalism class of top students, 11 of 18 didn't know what country Kabul is in?

The clintons are simply unbelieveable. Clinton wants this nomination dangerously too much....come on to go the extent of lying through her teeth like that. Please PA save us from this couple...

People who painstakingly look at the pixels miss looking at the big picture of the ECONOMY, Iraq War, Energy Independence, Health Care. The only one who can even come close to delivering on these issues is Hillary. McCain will not mess up Iraq War but Obama is so inexperienced that he will fail us on all four. Look at the pixels and all pictures look the same but Americans, please take a moment to look at the big picture. See who has the ideas. Who has the strength to take a stance? Who is strong enough to ask the tough questions of the experts around them? And ask yourselves who can deliver on all four of these big issues. That will be your choice. Hillary comes out so far ahead. Lose not the goal because you have spent your time looking at the small mishaps.

Aren’t we seeing a repeat of the months before the 2000 GE except that this time it is playing out in the Democratic primaries? Al Gore was smart, he had the ideas, he promised to make good use of the surplus, promised to help the economy grow and put Social Security in a lock box. He promised to revisit health care and what did the many short sighted American media do? They called Al Gore a liar and that he was not trustworthy because he lied about the Internet and he lied about going to a disaster area with the FEMA chief – except Al Gore had visited another disaster area with the FEMA chief. The media called him a liar over and over and over again. They discounted all the effort and the good things that Al Gore did for our country. They discounted all the good he would have brought about as the President so the American dream would be alive for all Americans. He promised to help schools and the infrastructure. Yet the media called him a liar over such flimsy details. They looked at pixels and missed the big picture. Look what we got now because of that. We have Bush and Cheney. We have a huge baggage in the Iraq War. We have a huge debt that we have to pay off. Our economy is floundering and we are in the beginning of a Recession. All because people believed the media and followed their pixel hunts instead of looking at the big picture. We are doing this again. Except, this time it is to Hillary. What a Shame!

The only reason this story about Obama being out of touch with the middle class came up on Friday is because Bill Clinton got caught telling these lies about his wife's lies. I am SICK OF THE CLINTONS. Go away.

Can we say "SABATOGE!" C'mon now, do you really think Bill wants to see his wife Hillary upstage him? He's been her biggest liaBILLity since she decided to run.

Hey, everyone. Thanks to those who read my post -whether you enjoyed it or not. Glad you found it interesting enough to plow through....

For those of you who don't know, here goes....

BLACK DUDE FOR CLINTON AND AGAINST OBAMA....

In the past I have voted for individuals I did not support. I was a Bradley fan. I was a Dean fan. I was somewhat undecided in 1992, but I supported Jesse during both of his runs. I did not vote for Clinton in 1996 because I was angry with welfare reform. I am able to separate the two Clintons, however. A woman is not an extension of her husband.

In the past, I was able to vote for the winning nominee, because the campaigns were not so nasty, hateful, and unfair. Although Bradley lost, the media did not really portray him in horrendous terms. Dean, I concede, received a lot of awful and unfair press. The Dean Scream was a complete media invention, and it slandered a great candidate. I was angry with the Democrats for falling for this madness. I saw a Karl Rove conspiracy; the Republicans said they preferred Dean, and the Democrats and the "liberal" media fell for it. Now, the Republicans say they want Clinton, and the media and the Democrats have fallen for it. The difference, however, is one of degree. The media and Obama's supporters have portrayed Clinton in completely unflattering terms, but she maintains a large volume of supporters. I think this shows how strong a candidate she actually is. On some level Bradley was flat, and Dean was a little "sporadic." But Clinton is a pretty straight shooter. The media, however, have done nothing but seek bad news about her. Even recently, they rushed a story calling her a "liar" concerning a campaign story that portrayed an uninsured woman's plight with health care. Although Clinton never mentioned the woman's or the hospital's name, a particular hospital denied the story -- and without even verifying anything, the headlines portrayed her as lying - "yet again." Turns out, the woman had several hospital visits and indeed was refused care by another hospital due to lack of insurance and $100. The woman's family and the sheriff who told Clinton the story have confirmed its validity. Rather than seeking to validate the truth, the media rushed to brand her a liar.

Things like this have happened throughout the campaign. Obama's "lies" and "distortions" receive very little attention. This is patently unfair. The Democrats are supposed to be "fair." Because they are not -- I refuse to support them anymore (add Florida and Michigan to this analysis -- and my opinion becomes even more forceful). The lack of fairness contradicts everthing the party claims to support, including the "narrative" advanced by Obama and his supporters. He is a "dignified" and "righteous" individual -- getting success in large part based on the most vitriolic sexism I have seen in US political history. If Democrats do not take a stand against this, then who will? If Democrats do not take a stand against this, then why are we any better than the Republicans?

As a civil rights activist, I cannot endorse a party that embraces sexism, that portrays a black man as the "post-racial" answer to their guilt, and that dismisses poor voters and Latinos as universally racist, uneducated and therefore lacking judgment. I refuse to support a party that views lifetime involvement with the Democratic party negatively -- as presenting "more of the same." I refuse to vote for a party that devalues the wisdom of an older generation of voters who have spent their entire lives trying to make change: saying they are "stuck in the past" is childish and petty. Obama and his followers have all said these things. But these are not my values. So, denying Obama my vote is not about being a "sore loser"; instead, it is a principled decision based on a lifetime of work.

Proud Democratic Defector

What's interesting to me is that CHELSEA - who qualifies as a grown up Clinton now (meaning no free passes), evidently was fine with going along with Mom's sniper adventure since she was there too. You'd think after the first time, if she was a girl with a conscience - though it's not in the genes - she'd say something. Or maybe after the 5th time... It also gets me how Hillary added that tagline, "if it's too small, too dangerous, or not important enough to send the President, send the First Lady.." line. I can understand Bill wanting her out of the House, but come on!

And don't forget that when she was 27, she said she wanted to join the Marines. Yep - in the middle of Vietnam, that's what every white female lawyer whose HUSBAND was a draft dodger and now running for Attorney General of Arkansas wants to do. (She said the eyeglasses held her back).

Hillary's like Forrest Gump. She's done everything and she's always the humble hero of every story/(lie) she tells.

Whoeey - can't believe Clinton has the nerve, I recall her very clearly telling the reporter what you say during the run-up isn't too important because voters have short memories. If someone is condescending - its her.

Obama was discussing political bitterness and it's a real thing. The belief that it doesn't have to be like is where the energy level in supporters comes from. It doesn't - people need to get off their duffs and get involved. If enough people speak out we can make a difference.

You want a lying ex-con for a CO-PRESIDENT? Bill Clinton is your boy. Even though Bill is an ex-convict (lying to federal grand jury, obstruction of justice, and even though he had his license to practice law stripped from him, and even though he no longer has public employees (Arkansas Highway Patrol) running him to see his many "mistresses, even after Monica Lewinsky, Jennifer Flowers and a host of others, many Americans still supported him, but not any more. And his new BFF is Bush senior and his intent now is just to make money.

Hillary is the grande dame of liars. Her elaborate Tuzla story was not just a lie, it was an elaborate whopper. She lied about her supposed opposition to NAFTA; she lied about being against the Iraq war before Barack. If she was so opposed to the Colombian Free Trade agreement, why didn’t she “reject and denounce” the portion of the $800.000, inured to her benefit as a matter of law. She could have donated it to some of the Americans who are deprived of jobs as a result of these trade agreements.

One thing we must recognize: Both Clintons are monstrous liars; but while this is a fact, we must acknowledge that they only lie when they are awake - as far as we know. And usually they tell one lie at a time. Chelsea is a fast learner: She originally supported Hillary's lie about the "harrowing experience" in Bosnia. She was a little slow, but she caught up quickly.

The flak she's getting from the Bosnia story is not making a mountain out of a mole hill. Hillary LIED!! She told a blatant lie to make herself look good and she got caught! Both the Clintons are pathological liars. They will say or do anything to get back in the White House.I don't understand why people can't see that.

GO HILLARY !!!
Media - please stop making a mountain out of a mole-hill - that is what Bill Clinton was trying to tell you! This is the exact problem. We need to treat all 3 candidates with respect and report fairly - the media is really trashing Hillary!
Fox is the only media that reports the real issues on Obama and his radical "friends" - his background and judgment are just far too questionable to be President of the United States!

The Clintons have always been pathological liars. They lie so much that they cannot distinguish the lies from the truth. If you lie enough, eventually you will get caught. We want that in the White House?

I realize some of these are extremely nit-picky and only arguably misstaements, but it's excellent to see that you are now going to start holding the candidates to this kind of scrutiny and standard. I especially can't wait to see what you make of some of the McCain doozies. You'll no doubt be up in the high double digits for each paragraph. Just out of curiosity, when can we expect your first dissection of this kind for the other candidates and their surrogates?

as far as lies how about this WHOPPER - obama is not african american THAT IS RIGHT OBAMA IS NOT AFRICAN AMERICAN - he is ARAB AMERICAN - he lied to get into harvard - he is lying now -

Just how does this work? Obama is in PA for less than a month and he has already figured out the psyche of working class people.

He spent 20+years in his church but he had no idea that Pastor Wright held the beliefs that he espoused!

When OBAMA figures out his CHURCH --- then he can give us his opinion about working class people in Pennsylvania and other states!

I guess he thinks the people of PA are so stupid and slow they can't remember they had a job during the Clinton administration.

Folks, please remember that this man Bill Clinton will not only be the First Spouse if Hillary is president, their supporters expect that Bill will guide Hillary through situations in the White House. She has also indicated that he will be given the post of creating good will among the nations of the world toward the United States. I am sad to say this but he sounds disoriented when he talks. Do we really want this two-some in Washington leading our country?

Question to "typical": who is "WE" that you are "Demanding" on behalf? You mean Senator Clinton supporters?
Last night I checked, in Zimbabwe, Mogabe; who thinks he is "entitled to the presidency"; is demanding the same things.
Should we bow now when Sen Clinton appears?
Raymond

Bill doesn't want her to lose, his butt's on the line. It's either the White House or divorce. He'll be cleaned out.

He just talks too much. No need to be so cynical.

I had resisted jumping to the conclusion that deep down he wants her to lose (as others have suggested), but the evidence is now just too great. A skilled politician -- which Clinton clearly is -- would never say anything so devastating about his wife the candidate unless he really, truly was working to undermine her campaign.

We demand an END to Media Bias!

We demand an END to Hate Speech!

We demand an END to Prejudice against Hillary!

We demand Florida & Michigan votes COUNT as cast!

We demand an END to Rigging of the Democratic Primary!

I support Senator Hillary Clinton for President as she embraces our struggles as her struggles. Her many years of experience, strength of character, accomplishments on behalf of the people, courage, compassion and willingness to fight for every American, are indeed qualities of a candidate who is ready to lead, and someone who offers solutions that are real and able to pass the tests.

...thanks bloggers, from the above, it could be simply summed up that the EXPERIENCE(s) is/are obviously so HUGE !

H & C (if I print their names it won't be posted) from Fox news, tried to cover the Rev. Wright story last year and the media refused to cover it. Now they won't cover the Underground Weatherman Story. Which H & C have been covering the last two nights. The media is in Obamas pocket and it's really sad that they throw these stories up over and over to try and deflect from the real issue. You never see them quoting Michelle Obama's every word. Especially since they reported her saying She was proud of America for the first time in her adult life and people were really ticked. Do you want a first lady who isn't proud of her country going around the world representing us. How do you think other countries will view her when they know she has made such statements.

This guy is a moron! Now he's told America that Hillary is 60 and if she gets exhausted at night, she can't remember things. What's going to happen to us if the phone rings at 3 a.m.? How the hell is she going to know what's happening at 3 a.m.?

I tried to post a comment and they wouldn't print it because I said Fox was more fair when reporting on Obama then the rest of the media. I also said that Fox has covered for the last two nights, the story about Obama being linked to The Underground Weatherman and this story being a screen because the media doesn't want to report anything negative about Obama.

Poster Sean O'Brien said something I agree with, Bill and the "subconscious...". No matter how much love Bill proclaims for Hillary, he continues to abuse her. For years he's abused her trust by being unfaithful. Now, knowing how she wants to be Pres more than anything in life, he gets out there and resurrects one of her most volatile errors, Bosnia, making it worse. Why would he do that? Because he is sicker than she is and he obviously likes to hurt her. Pennsylvania, do us a favor. Shut these 2 Clinton has-been narcissists down. Oh ya, treat yourself to watching Hillary "cackle" when she was asked about Bill's $800,000 fees going back to her campaign and a possible conflict of interest...it's a winner!!!

Bill's famous, "I never had sex with that woman", is proof positive how much they lie. Mark my words, if she gets into the White House (again) we'll NEVER know for sure what's true and what's a big lie. Is this what we want of a president?

Posted by: makemyday2day | Apr 11, 2008 2:01:21 PM

To me a lie has to be significant, not a mere misstatement of facts. Suppose Bill had said, "She had her yellow dress on" when, in fact, it was blue, it wouldn't bother me as it might still offend someone else who thinks all lies are equal and to be despised without exception.

For me, lying about consensual sex no matter how in-your-face still falls in the realm of lies that I can dismiss as unimportant without reflecting on a person's integrity. Clearly, makemyday doesn't feel that way.

On the other hand, I would find very much problematic a lie along the lines of "Saddam is developing WMDs" when this is a rationale for going to war. That would be an example of a significant lie, one I would not tolerate. Again, I know there are people who would disagree.

Bill's famous, "I never had sex with that woman", is proof positive how much they lie. Mark my words, if she gets into the White House (again) we'll NEVER know for sure what's true and what's a big lie. Is this what we want of a president?

WHAT WAS ALSO INSULTING TO PEOPLES INTELEGENCE, IS THE FACT THAT HILLARY WENT ON J LENO SHOW TRYING TO PUT THE SPIN on this BOSNIA Lie, to make it seems LIKE WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE THE CRAZY ONES that need to see a Psychologist. Because WHAT we SEE and HEAR IS NOT WHAT WE REALLY SEE and heard!

YOU CAN NEVER BET ON GETTING THE ENTIRE TRUTH FROM THIS Couple. I REGRET VOTING FOR HER IN Florida! THEY NEED TO GO, NOW!!

Add another inaccuracy to the list: The three Americans killed on that mountain were diplomats, not peacekeepers. They were there before the Dayton Peace Agreement, which paved the way for the introduction of the US-led peacekeeping force.

hello is it worth the news?
"Is it worth the news? If you pick up a talk by any politician, I can assure you that most time you will find similar mistakes."

-If by "mistakes" you mean lies, then I concur.

Leave it to the Clintons to use a new set of LIES to try and cover a new set of LIES. lol

Clintons: Enemies of the truth!

Is it worth the news? If you pick up a talk by any politician, I can assure you that most time you will find similar mistakes.

Well said DJ but it sounds like you don't know many black people. You would find that most of our churches welcome whites all the time few choose to go for fear not because they arent welcome. The UNCF was founded 64 years ago at a time when schools were still segregated and all black colleges were all we had. So once segragtion happened shoudl we have just shut down these fine insitutions which by the way are historically black yet all of them have white students. And I personally dont find the word "negro" racist. Just as we have been overly sensitive to some things you should know just a bit more before you speak. Your points are great and as a black woman I agree with most of what you have said about "my" people and yes we all have along way to go. Just don't knock us for trying to better ourselves and be fruitful in "our" America.

And I do support Hillary Clinton for President. Obama doesn't want change. He wants lies. If he honestly wanted change, he'd start with himself and no lie.

Dear Common Sense -

The issue may be old news but it is far from dead. I have concluded that a fairly higher percentage of blacks are far more racists than "typical white people" (as Obama put it).

From a white person's perspective, they have, simply put, churches, universities, neighborhoods, business associations, and a host of other non-racial defining entities. In today's society, "typical white people" aren't allowed to have harbor racial descript entities because they would be labeled racist. White communities are not allowed form a segregation whatsoever.

Yet, such is not equal with black communities. Blacks have black churches, where if a white person would walk in, everyone would gasp. Blacks have black universities. There is even a United Negro College Fund - it's own name could be termed racist if spoken by a white person. Black people toss the "N" word around in music, film, and everday life because they think it's empowering that they can say that word but not whites. You don't see white people walking around calling each other racist names. And we often hear of black owned business associations that definately do exclude white, latino, or Asian CEOs.

Whenever segregation served the better purpose of the black community, it was harbored, treasured, reveard and supported by the blacks. Whenever segregation served better purpose of any other community, blacks would scream, holler, condemn and rip at the very fabric of that organization - trying to get in and playing the race card when they were denied. I will never forget Mayro Ray Nagins comments about New Orleans being his "chocolate city" while on the mayoral campaign trail. Had any other candidate uttered the term "vanilla city" or "cracker town", the black community would have been throwing that race card faster than they did at Imus.

Blacks play the race card too much. This has caused anamosity in the eyes of one community, and frustration in the eyes of another. The racial double standard is what tears at the fabric of all communities. Blacks have to learn to set the example, not set the exception. Teach everyone that doing things like calling someone a "N" is WRONG, or else do not get angry when a non-black uses it. Completely dismiss the use offensive words from music, movies and things that touch our everyday lives. Re-affirm to our children that "thug", be it black, white, latino, asian or any other creed is NOT something to aspire to be. Help them pick positive role models by BEING a role model. Nothing could be more honorable than a child saying to his Mom or Dad, "You are my idol."

Unlike Reaganomics and the "trickle down" theory, change starts at the bottom and works it way up. Change starts with everyday people, like you and me. It's a small contribution but it can be just as infectious as smile. If you really want change, you have to look inside to yourself first and find the better person we all strive to be.

makemyday2day

It's not just that the Clinton's are liars. Of course they are. It just that Obama is just a big and just as prolific a liar.

Thus the democrats are reduced to playing a game of YOUR LIAR IS A BIGGER LIAR THAN MY LIAR.

It's beyond me to understand why the Hill supporters refuse to accept the Clintons are LIARS. The lies never end and they'll twist EVERYTHING to get Hill nominated - to get her way. She's in this election for herself and could care less about the rest of us. Bill's famous, "I never had sex with that woman", is proof positive how much they lie. Mark my words, if she gets into the White House (again) we'll NEVER know for sure what's true and what's a big lie. Is this what we want of a president?

The problem with Hillary is not that she repeated the lie once, twice, three times, probably ten times or more -- off the cuff and in prepared remarks -- but that after she was called on the lie by Sinbad, who was on the trip with her, she trotted out her enablers like her own former speech writer and Togo West, a former cabinet secretary for heaven's sakes, to vouch for her story and got Mr. West to trash Sinbad ("a comedian") at a press conference specifically called to rebut Sinbad and defend her lies. Now to defend themselves, the Clintons are lying about her lies in exactly the same way that they were lying about her Tuzla escapade. The lies are deliberate and they are endless.

common sense as a screen name and you support Mr. Hope??? Bwahahahahahahahaha!

This Bill Clinton issue is PURE CRP and the MSM is using as one more thing to bash over Hillary's head. It's sad and pathetic. I don't care if William Ayers was 40 years ago. He still bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol and tried to blow up a NY police dept. The man was on the run for YEARS and he's Obama's buddy.

First we have the racist Rev. Louis Farrakhan and now a terrorist buddy who raises funds for his campaign. The man has not been vetted and I, for one, don't trust him as far as I can throw him. You go ahead and keep your eyes and ears closed though and you'll find yourself watching McCain's swearing-in on TeeVee. Fool.

The media has all this garbage on Mr. Hope. They're just saving it for the GE. The MSM LOVES John McCain...in case you haven't figured that out yet.

Poor Bill. Somebody forgot to tell him the Clinton campaign is all done with that lie and have moved on to new ones.

So what Fred? Grasshoppa, this is politics. Now that the Bi-Racial man is the one with the biggest bank, you want to itemize.

You weren't itemizing when Bush and the Republican machine were raising big money in 2002 on, were you.

It's funny to see when a game created by you and yours is manipulated and perfected by someone on the outside.

Sounds like the auto industry, huh?

OMG!!! I have teetered this entire campaign on whom I thought would be the best candidate for me.. a divorced, black mother of two college students. Hillary has great Senatorial/First Lady experience and the analytical part of my brain says we need experience. Obama inexperienced but fresh new blood not quite so deeply entrenched in old White House ties...too new to owe everyone a favor and yet can definitely talk his way out of a bad situation. Yet both have so much crap with them between the lies (sorry misspeaks), poor choice in associates and just flagrant disregard for the voters of FL & MI. All those brains and no one can come up with a viable answer to that problem. I live in Nevada and we "caucused" and to say the least it was malarkEy. At this point, both candidates are equally unappealing but voting for McCain would be like voting to send my soon to be 18-yr old nephew to war. I am sick of hearing the banter between the two parties supporters (Obamites and Clintoneers) as they all seem so uniformed and quick to quote the media (which I am a part of)when their only goal in life is to get ratings and they have high paid lawyers to get them out of those slander cases. Not to say that what they are quoting is not facts because they are but they are minutia rife with political dung. My heart does not want to believe that Obama is a potential terrorist threat or that Hillary would endanger us by being a self-serving politico. So I ask you what are average jane democrats supposed to do when they dont want to hear rhetoric and what the media says I should think?

No more free passes for Bill Clinton. This may finally sink his wife's nomination. Bill Clinton is a smart politician. I have to wonder if he is not torpedoing Hillary's bid on some subconscious level. This is fascinating to watch, but it is doing irreparable damage to Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Last I checked with Ayers, that was 40 years ago. Anything new to whine about Vicky?

Lapels?
Hands over hearts?
Thesis papers?
Experience?
Rezko?
Canandian NAFTA lie by the Clintons?

Why don't you focus on the article at hand? WHY DO THE CLINTONS LIE SO MUCH?

Do you have a small dissertation for that?

No, I didn't think so. What a dunce.

Eliz,

Too "typical" to face reality in validating truth.

If they were so appalled at the Reb, they should picket the Church. Why not? There hasn't been one picketer in front of the church yet!

It's shows that cynics are truly all whine and no cheese.

What a bunch of dopes.

Hypocritical cynics are stiiiiiiiill whining about Rev Wright? Hmm, sounds like you need something better to whine about because this is old news and has had no significant impact on the Obama campaign or its ability to maintain an average of $25 million in donations a month over the last 4 months.

So, save the whining. It's falling on deaf ears.

And also, look deep into your racist foundations before you attempt to point fingers at someone of color and call them racist. What a joke.

Rev Wright doesn't control your ability to get a mortgage or a car loan or even employment equality. Oppression is the child of Racism.

The Reb doesn't oppress you, he irritates you. Get over it.

I won't vote for Hillary, but come on. Can we move on to more substantial issues? Yeah, she made up some heroic story, who gives a crap. Talk about the issues, not stupid lies about how she landed in a helicopter.

ITS FUNNY SHE IS DOING 3 AM ADS AND SHE IS USELESS AT 11:00 PM...HRC needs to get some sleep come Pennsylvania help us send her back to "Arkansas” so she can get some rest...LOL

Someone mentioned that we should drop the no insurance pregnant women / Bosnia stories and the Wright. There are difference of accuracy and principles between the them.

No insurance story is 95% accurate, Bosnia if 65% accurate. Wright's is an issue of principle even though BO tried to use a speech to shift the values to racial issue.

I understand that Obama never voted for the war. He couldn't, he was too busy listening to one of "Rev" Wright's hate filled supposed sermons.
I will never vote for a person that refuses to honor our country by placing a hand over the heart. I ask whats next, if elected will he refuse to return the salute of a soldier? The man is an unpatriotic racist.

I can not be opposed to another Clinton in the White House as when the first Clinton was there our Country eliminated the deficit. I am sure that any Democratic candidate could help us. It only took George and company a short time to push us further into debt than we had ever been. What is wrong with helping those at home in our own country. Let those who are destroying the Middle East rebuild it. They should not have any problem using our money that they are soaking us for oil.

If Hillary is mispeaking herself because she's 1)60 and 2) tired at the end of the day--how is she going to answer the phone at 3:00 A.M.?

Sometimes Bill does her more harm than good...

-Sheeza Lyer-

And everyone affiliated with "Rev" Wright's church just happened to speak German on that particular day?

ARE YOU PEOPLE THAT SURPRISED THAT THE CLINTONS ARE LYING? COME ON.. JUST LOOK AT ALL THEY HAVE LIED ABOUT ALREADY... AND TO THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL FOOLED INTO THINKING HILLARY WILL BE GOOD FOR THE US.. THAT IS LIKE SAYING SADDAM WAS GOOD FOR IRAQ.. ALSO, Those of you that point blame at Bush and McCain about the war in Iraq must of forgotten that a lot of DEmos in office voted to go to war.. HILLARY BEING ONE OF THEM.. OH she was tired when she voted..

SHE LIED, LIED...AND THEN LIED AGAIN. I watched a press conference where she said sinbad was wrong and was a comedian and shouldn't be trusted. Hw was calling her out and she got caught. Now shes saying she was tired and said it once. I can't believe this woman wants to be president.I used to have alot of respect for bill clinton. its all gone now.

I don't know what the hell is Bill doing in piling more lies to Hill's sniper debacle, does he ever want Hill to really win ? Now, he is trying to revise and edit what she have done and blaming it on physical tiredness of Hill to misspoke. Even as the media have already dismissed Hill as the first First Lady to visit a combat zone since Eleanor when Pat did it long ago in Vietnam while Bill was inhaling ! Does the Clinton ever think that the public are so dumb to swallow their lies ? The more lies there is, the more Hill's campaign is going to sink with the extended discussion of lies they want to perpetuate. At the rate of lies coming out from their mouth, it would become more easy for Barack to win PA. It does look like that the Clintons have been living with lies to sustain themselves politically and how ironic that Hill is now going to die by their own lies.

Yeah Lauren - are you any better than Hillary lying? You deliberately get on this thread to start lies about the Clintons.
Does that make you a better person? I think not.
Don't throw stones missy - they may ricochet right back to you. Maybe you are a politician in disguise.

I believe the record shows that the tale first appeared in Iowa in Dubuque at the end of the year just before the Iowa caucus and was repeated in Texas and at least one other date and then on St. Patrick's Day in Pennsylvania. As far as I know, none of the occasions were at 11 p.m. and were misspeaking but simply lies.

The Clintons and just about all other politicians (both sides) are void of human feelings. Their job, as they see it is to pull your chain, then figure out how to hide the money.

John McCain had a heroic past in the military, sad even -- as a hostage, but clearly, after his misguided vote to wage war on Iraq, and don't forget the lie HE told when he went to visit Baghdad "It was like going to market" (or some such comment), forgetting to mention that there were Blackhawk helicopters flying above him, he had on a flakjacket, and was surrounded by armed men. WOW, that sounds like Hillary's Bosnia misstatement!

John McCain has admitted knowing nothing about the number one problem that plagues the country right now -- THE ECONOMY. I always said, John McCain, by himself, might not be so bad, but we need to watch the people in his background. According to news yesterday, the NEOCONs have contacted him. That means MORE OF GEORGE W. BUSH'S MESSED UP POLICIES -- ALL DESIGNED TO LINE THE POCKETS OF BUSH, CHENEY, WOLFOWICZ, RUMSFELD, RICE, ETC. Don't forget too quickly, people, we're still in the midst of this morass, and you're hankering for more! How STUPID can we be?

I too sat on my flak jacket wondering if I would be hit by sniper fire from the hills. Hostile force from all sides surrounded me as I waited to hear Mrs. Clinton speak in Los Angeles.

ITS FUNNY SHE IS DOING 3 AM ADS AND SHE IS USELESS AT 11:00 PM..LOL